Xinshun 1730
Chapter 1110
Chapter 1110 Shangguo Mentality ([-])
Anyway, that's the situation.
Cotton cannot be grown in the bean-producing areas of the Northeast, and it is the place where the per capita demand for cotton and cloth is the highest. Huainan salt workers can be naked, barefoot, and do not wear trousers; There is a hat and a jacket.This is not something that can be saved by "saving a bit, deducting a bit". Even those capitals that enclose land and grow beans have to ensure that the laborers are alive in winter.
Nanyang plantations are hot, but being bare-chested is a privilege of the temperate zone. Working in tropical plantations requires wearing clothes, otherwise it is easy to die.Including but not limited to heatstroke, mosquitoes, bites, severe sunburn, etc.
In the Hebei area, it is possible to grow cotton and develop textiles, which are sold well in Kanto, Mongolia, and Henan.But Dashun is about to attack India, and there is no way to grow cotton in Hebei for textiles. Unless the textile industry here can't afford it, it is possible to leak cotton to the North China Plain.
In terms of geography and shipping, Guangdong's cotton textile industry seems likely to develop greatly.
But Guangdong was not lightly pitted by Liu Yu, and now it is busy cleaning up the shit after the trade center moved northward. Crash, a whole lot of trouble.
If there are a few waves of uprisings at random, the remaining capital will definitely flee to southern Jiangsu and Shanghai, just like the Yanghuai capital that Liu Yu deliberately cheated.
After all, capital has long legs.
Therefore, for a long time, there is no need to worry about the failure of the Jiangsu model and being slapped in the face.
While Quan Zhe was shocked, he also thought that this is not Jiangnan after all.
This is already the case here, what will happen to Jiangnan?
After being excited and shocked, Quan Zheshen suddenly thought of a question.
Since the life here seems to be quite easy, why did Meng Songlu and others try to make a village contract, but it was not very successful?
You can live well here, why can't you live well there?
As soon as this question was asked, Meng Songlu was stunned for a moment, and finally gave an answer with the characteristics of southern Jiangsu after many years of reform.
After many years of subtle influence, some economic ideas still clearly revolve around Liu Yu's set of things.
"Insufficient capital. It turns out that the transportation is inconvenient."
"Now the canal has been repaired, water conservancy, seawall, etc. have basically been completed. The most difficult days have passed, but now we owe a lot of money... We have not completed the original accumulation. The canal repair and infrastructure construction from Funing to Nantong After it’s finished, everyone knows it’s going to get better soon. But all those who are willing to lend us money ask us to take the land as collateral for future land resumption.”
"The people in the village here are men plowing and women weaving, but they are not men plowing and women weaving. The looms are not theirs, the cotton yarn is not theirs, and the cloth that is woven is not theirs."
"That's why I said, it's men farming and women weaving, but it's not."
"The infrastructure here was completed during the time of Emperor Xiaowen in the Han Dynasty. This suffering was eaten by the Wu people during the time of Emperor Xiaowen. The predecessors planted trees and the descendants enjoyed the shade."
"And the infrastructure from Funing to Nantong, seawall water conservancy, etc., we have to bear, the predecessors did not leave anything behind. At first we only cared about the size of the enclosure, 24 mu, insufficient capital, and the subsequent infrastructure construction has great vitality hurt."
"Wait until the infrastructure is completed and the canal is repaired, and there is no money to buy an iron wheel loom."
"Xing Guogong's low-interest loans for industry support are strictly reviewed. He directly refused to grant them, and he firmly refused to lend us..."
Speaking of this, Meng Songlu was also a little upset, feeling that this was unfair.
Those capitals that enclose land in northern Jiangsu do not need to consider the issue of self-accumulation.
Relying on overseas trade, salt industry profits, etc., the original accumulation was completed early. Whether it is water conservancy or seawall canals, they are all initial investments and lose money.
But people can afford it.
After surviving the period of construction of the canal, Huainan's enclosure of cotton fields is about to take off.
The textile industry capital in the Nantong area will also go northward along the canal from Funing to Nantong, and will continue to infiltrate and disintegrate, turning more men farming and women weaving along the canal into the current strange model of men farming and women weaving.
At that time, the village association's attempt was to retrofit.
It is the granting of the land by equalizing the land, relying on the "universal love" advocated by Cheng Tingzuo and Confucian family ethics as the unit, relying on the cornerstone of the township and sages, and the gathering of the Taizhou School in the past as a model to create a four-dimensional thing.
Now that this step has been reached, there are great differences among the various schools involved in what to do next.
Take the situation in this village that Quan Zheshen sees now, there are still more than 400 households who have not been driven away, and those who remain in the village. This is a big village.
More than 600 iron wheel looms poured in from the whole village, but these looms were not owned by the villagers, but owned by the capital.
If the villagers buy it themselves, can they buy it in the Year of the Monkey?
It's not that Cheng Tingzuo didn't think about asking the families of Xiangyue Village to pay a sum of money to buy a few looms.But there is a big problem with this idea.
When the loom is bought back, who does it belong to?
Who does the income go to?
Is the cloth for internal use, or for sale?
How much does a weaver earn?
Each household is an independent family, and many contradictions will inevitably arise in this situation.
Some retroists said that it is better to imitate the model of Ming Dynasty and engage in craftsman system.The township contracted the village commune to send out people to be specialized craftsmen, and to complete a certain amount of weaving every month.
But when this idea was put forward, it was rejected internally.
When I was excited at the beginning, I circled 24 mu of land to try it out.
Taxes are paid as usual.
The cost of water conservancy projects will be paid as usual.The excavation of the canal also paid two-thirds of the money in the northern Jiangsu circle according to the land enclosure, and commercial capital investment was prohibited to prevent future water charges.
After the excitement, money is everywhere.
And before the canal from Funing to Nantong was completed and the Huainan enclosure was basically completed, Songjiang's commercial capital did not want to give them loans at all.
There is collateral.
However, this collateral is pure trouble.
The wasteland reclamation company can take out loans, and it is very convenient, because the land belongs to the wasteland reclamation company, and the workers on it are hired workers.
If you really want to reclaim the land, you can just reclaim the land and manage it yourself.
And this township village commune is to grant land to the people, so that the people can control their property.
When Huainan was enclosing land, there was a lot of commotion because of the property rights of Yanhu.
Capital did not want to lend money to this troublesome village before.
If the farmers who have not paid for the land and stabilized the life of the small farmers are willing to work as hired workers with nothing?
There will be trouble at that time, it's not troublesome enough.
Wearing a shroud to go to the county government, and cutting off the flesh and fingers to show his will, who can bear it?
Don't say it's different. At the beginning, Yanhu only had the right to use the Caodang, but it didn't mean that it was the same for three to five years, and the army was mobilized to suppress it?
However, with the construction of the canal, the Huainan enclosure was basically completed, and the value of the land increased sharply.
The capital has considered the profit of land requisition in the future, and the troubles that may be caused by land requisition. The profit has overcome the trouble, and now it is naturally willing to lend.
Liu Yu had suggested to Cheng Tingzuo before, saying that you can follow the example of other land enclosures in Huainan to form this kind of company model.
The big deal is that if you treat the people better and distribute more profits to the people, it is better than making it look like you are now.
Or, more radically, property is shared.
Turning it into a company model can at least gather capital, fertilize the land, grow cotton, develop textiles, accumulate capital little by little, and complete industrial upgrading.
Now this kind of four-dimensional model has been established. I said earlier that Huainan Salt Reclamation’s small-scale farming model will only degrade the land, and you will turn against salt in three to five years. You just don’t believe it.
And waiting for the industrial revolution to come in the future, almost at the same time as the completion of the infrastructure, you will have no capital to upgrade at that time.
Even if the canal is built, the capital will go up Hebei and spread looms to the countryside.
But can the profit from raising money to buy looms be the same as using other people's looms and inheriting the yarn from others?
It was done like that at the beginning, first upgraded from growing grain to cotton, and then from cotton to weaving. As for doing it so embarrassingly?
And Liu Yu also made it very clear at the time, the capital of those people in the Huainan enclosure, you can't compare.
Those capitals were bloody accumulations based on the salt profits of the people in the five provinces, and the bonuses from the several battles of the Dashun Conquest of Japan.
Do you think that the imperial court's attack on Japan was really because of the Ryukyu matter?Isn't it greedy for Japan's silver?
People in the five provinces paid this money from Yanli, people from North Korea, Japan and Nanyang from Buri, and Europe from porcelain, silk and tea.
Of course, Liu Yu played a not very good role here.
Theoretically, he can use his power and position, or in order to set an example, reduce or exempt the money that should be paid by Huainan's five-year infrastructure construction, and even provide low-interest loans.
But this model is not what Liu Yu likes at all.
There were all kinds of ridicule in the first place, and they even mocked that they were playing retro acting for fun, so naturally they refused to deduct a penny.
A group of people, within five years, have to accumulate the capital of each family from scratch.
It also has to bear the overall infrastructure of Huainan.
It also has to bear the Northern Expedition of textile capital accompanying the construction of the canal, and pull the canal area into the rural area of the loom.
If this can be tolerated, it will really rewrite economics.
Anyway, this is what Liu Yu is happy to see, and it is the victory of capitalism over retro utopia.
As for the affluent areas around Nantong that Meng Songlu looked at based on Quan Zhe's body, it was indeed as Quan Zhe said: the infrastructure was completed when Han Gaozu's nephew, Wu Wang Liu Bi.
Anyway, the people who built the canal were dead almost 2000 years ago, and the corvee workers of the imperial court did not stop repairing the river. The predecessors planted trees and the descendants enjoyed the shade.
The people in this place are naturally happy.
The money for Huainan infrastructure is also used by the salt interests of the five provinces and the money of people in other overseas countries. It is not difficult for those large capitals to grow cotton in enclosures.
Digging the river does not require them to work hard, a large number of tenants who were driven out of the countryside, and refugees after the decline of the Yanghuai River.
Meng Songlu and the others just felt that this matter was unfair, but they didn't feel too much dissatisfaction with Liu Yu.
In three to five years of major infrastructure construction, without harming the people, a set of parallel "Fan Gong Dikes" and a new canal from the Huaihe River to the Yangtze River were created. is enough.The Fan Gong Temple elsewhere is definitely not up to standard, but the Fan Gong Temple in Huainan is mainly the Fan Gongdi of Zebei's later generations.
As for the decline of Yangzhou, the attitude of their school is only slightly regretful.Otherwise, Cheng Tingzuo and Wu Jingzi would not have broken up because of the righteousness and small righteousness because of the salt reform.
Meng Songlu may not have noticed that his analysis of the economy has subtly formed a different analysis mode from the past.
He didn't think there was anything abnormal about it, but tried to integrate this brand-new economic analysis thinking with the original Confucianism.
Anyway, Quan Zheshen was going to the village commune, instead of lamenting that "Shangguo is nothing more than that" after arriving there.
It's better to look at these prosperous areas first, feel the prosperity of the country, and then get a vaccination to explain the special situation that the village community is facing.
Moreover, this itself is also a reminder to Quan Zhe: it is the philosophy of the master to get rich first and then teach, which can be proved by the Analects of Confucius.
But if you want to be rich, you have to dig the river first.
Both transportation and water conservancy.
However, this itself is also a realistic dilemma for Confucianism: Take North Korea as an example, suppose that if you use light and heavy techniques to amass money, then build water conservancy, dig canals, and install irrigation.Yes, or not?
This again involves the school disputes of Confucianism since the Song Dynasty, or the insinuation of Confucianism in Dashun at this time-"Guan Zhong", is it benevolent or not?
In addition to the "Guan Zhong" alluding to Xianxue, the real Guan Zhongren is not benevolent. This also involves tracing the way of the former kings. Where is the pursuit?
Chase Zhou Kong?
Or catch up to Confucius and Mencius?
Or chase Kong Xun?
(End of this chapter)
Anyway, that's the situation.
Cotton cannot be grown in the bean-producing areas of the Northeast, and it is the place where the per capita demand for cotton and cloth is the highest. Huainan salt workers can be naked, barefoot, and do not wear trousers; There is a hat and a jacket.This is not something that can be saved by "saving a bit, deducting a bit". Even those capitals that enclose land and grow beans have to ensure that the laborers are alive in winter.
Nanyang plantations are hot, but being bare-chested is a privilege of the temperate zone. Working in tropical plantations requires wearing clothes, otherwise it is easy to die.Including but not limited to heatstroke, mosquitoes, bites, severe sunburn, etc.
In the Hebei area, it is possible to grow cotton and develop textiles, which are sold well in Kanto, Mongolia, and Henan.But Dashun is about to attack India, and there is no way to grow cotton in Hebei for textiles. Unless the textile industry here can't afford it, it is possible to leak cotton to the North China Plain.
In terms of geography and shipping, Guangdong's cotton textile industry seems likely to develop greatly.
But Guangdong was not lightly pitted by Liu Yu, and now it is busy cleaning up the shit after the trade center moved northward. Crash, a whole lot of trouble.
If there are a few waves of uprisings at random, the remaining capital will definitely flee to southern Jiangsu and Shanghai, just like the Yanghuai capital that Liu Yu deliberately cheated.
After all, capital has long legs.
Therefore, for a long time, there is no need to worry about the failure of the Jiangsu model and being slapped in the face.
While Quan Zhe was shocked, he also thought that this is not Jiangnan after all.
This is already the case here, what will happen to Jiangnan?
After being excited and shocked, Quan Zheshen suddenly thought of a question.
Since the life here seems to be quite easy, why did Meng Songlu and others try to make a village contract, but it was not very successful?
You can live well here, why can't you live well there?
As soon as this question was asked, Meng Songlu was stunned for a moment, and finally gave an answer with the characteristics of southern Jiangsu after many years of reform.
After many years of subtle influence, some economic ideas still clearly revolve around Liu Yu's set of things.
"Insufficient capital. It turns out that the transportation is inconvenient."
"Now the canal has been repaired, water conservancy, seawall, etc. have basically been completed. The most difficult days have passed, but now we owe a lot of money... We have not completed the original accumulation. The canal repair and infrastructure construction from Funing to Nantong After it’s finished, everyone knows it’s going to get better soon. But all those who are willing to lend us money ask us to take the land as collateral for future land resumption.”
"The people in the village here are men plowing and women weaving, but they are not men plowing and women weaving. The looms are not theirs, the cotton yarn is not theirs, and the cloth that is woven is not theirs."
"That's why I said, it's men farming and women weaving, but it's not."
"The infrastructure here was completed during the time of Emperor Xiaowen in the Han Dynasty. This suffering was eaten by the Wu people during the time of Emperor Xiaowen. The predecessors planted trees and the descendants enjoyed the shade."
"And the infrastructure from Funing to Nantong, seawall water conservancy, etc., we have to bear, the predecessors did not leave anything behind. At first we only cared about the size of the enclosure, 24 mu, insufficient capital, and the subsequent infrastructure construction has great vitality hurt."
"Wait until the infrastructure is completed and the canal is repaired, and there is no money to buy an iron wheel loom."
"Xing Guogong's low-interest loans for industry support are strictly reviewed. He directly refused to grant them, and he firmly refused to lend us..."
Speaking of this, Meng Songlu was also a little upset, feeling that this was unfair.
Those capitals that enclose land in northern Jiangsu do not need to consider the issue of self-accumulation.
Relying on overseas trade, salt industry profits, etc., the original accumulation was completed early. Whether it is water conservancy or seawall canals, they are all initial investments and lose money.
But people can afford it.
After surviving the period of construction of the canal, Huainan's enclosure of cotton fields is about to take off.
The textile industry capital in the Nantong area will also go northward along the canal from Funing to Nantong, and will continue to infiltrate and disintegrate, turning more men farming and women weaving along the canal into the current strange model of men farming and women weaving.
At that time, the village association's attempt was to retrofit.
It is the granting of the land by equalizing the land, relying on the "universal love" advocated by Cheng Tingzuo and Confucian family ethics as the unit, relying on the cornerstone of the township and sages, and the gathering of the Taizhou School in the past as a model to create a four-dimensional thing.
Now that this step has been reached, there are great differences among the various schools involved in what to do next.
Take the situation in this village that Quan Zheshen sees now, there are still more than 400 households who have not been driven away, and those who remain in the village. This is a big village.
More than 600 iron wheel looms poured in from the whole village, but these looms were not owned by the villagers, but owned by the capital.
If the villagers buy it themselves, can they buy it in the Year of the Monkey?
It's not that Cheng Tingzuo didn't think about asking the families of Xiangyue Village to pay a sum of money to buy a few looms.But there is a big problem with this idea.
When the loom is bought back, who does it belong to?
Who does the income go to?
Is the cloth for internal use, or for sale?
How much does a weaver earn?
Each household is an independent family, and many contradictions will inevitably arise in this situation.
Some retroists said that it is better to imitate the model of Ming Dynasty and engage in craftsman system.The township contracted the village commune to send out people to be specialized craftsmen, and to complete a certain amount of weaving every month.
But when this idea was put forward, it was rejected internally.
When I was excited at the beginning, I circled 24 mu of land to try it out.
Taxes are paid as usual.
The cost of water conservancy projects will be paid as usual.The excavation of the canal also paid two-thirds of the money in the northern Jiangsu circle according to the land enclosure, and commercial capital investment was prohibited to prevent future water charges.
After the excitement, money is everywhere.
And before the canal from Funing to Nantong was completed and the Huainan enclosure was basically completed, Songjiang's commercial capital did not want to give them loans at all.
There is collateral.
However, this collateral is pure trouble.
The wasteland reclamation company can take out loans, and it is very convenient, because the land belongs to the wasteland reclamation company, and the workers on it are hired workers.
If you really want to reclaim the land, you can just reclaim the land and manage it yourself.
And this township village commune is to grant land to the people, so that the people can control their property.
When Huainan was enclosing land, there was a lot of commotion because of the property rights of Yanhu.
Capital did not want to lend money to this troublesome village before.
If the farmers who have not paid for the land and stabilized the life of the small farmers are willing to work as hired workers with nothing?
There will be trouble at that time, it's not troublesome enough.
Wearing a shroud to go to the county government, and cutting off the flesh and fingers to show his will, who can bear it?
Don't say it's different. At the beginning, Yanhu only had the right to use the Caodang, but it didn't mean that it was the same for three to five years, and the army was mobilized to suppress it?
However, with the construction of the canal, the Huainan enclosure was basically completed, and the value of the land increased sharply.
The capital has considered the profit of land requisition in the future, and the troubles that may be caused by land requisition. The profit has overcome the trouble, and now it is naturally willing to lend.
Liu Yu had suggested to Cheng Tingzuo before, saying that you can follow the example of other land enclosures in Huainan to form this kind of company model.
The big deal is that if you treat the people better and distribute more profits to the people, it is better than making it look like you are now.
Or, more radically, property is shared.
Turning it into a company model can at least gather capital, fertilize the land, grow cotton, develop textiles, accumulate capital little by little, and complete industrial upgrading.
Now this kind of four-dimensional model has been established. I said earlier that Huainan Salt Reclamation’s small-scale farming model will only degrade the land, and you will turn against salt in three to five years. You just don’t believe it.
And waiting for the industrial revolution to come in the future, almost at the same time as the completion of the infrastructure, you will have no capital to upgrade at that time.
Even if the canal is built, the capital will go up Hebei and spread looms to the countryside.
But can the profit from raising money to buy looms be the same as using other people's looms and inheriting the yarn from others?
It was done like that at the beginning, first upgraded from growing grain to cotton, and then from cotton to weaving. As for doing it so embarrassingly?
And Liu Yu also made it very clear at the time, the capital of those people in the Huainan enclosure, you can't compare.
Those capitals were bloody accumulations based on the salt profits of the people in the five provinces, and the bonuses from the several battles of the Dashun Conquest of Japan.
Do you think that the imperial court's attack on Japan was really because of the Ryukyu matter?Isn't it greedy for Japan's silver?
People in the five provinces paid this money from Yanli, people from North Korea, Japan and Nanyang from Buri, and Europe from porcelain, silk and tea.
Of course, Liu Yu played a not very good role here.
Theoretically, he can use his power and position, or in order to set an example, reduce or exempt the money that should be paid by Huainan's five-year infrastructure construction, and even provide low-interest loans.
But this model is not what Liu Yu likes at all.
There were all kinds of ridicule in the first place, and they even mocked that they were playing retro acting for fun, so naturally they refused to deduct a penny.
A group of people, within five years, have to accumulate the capital of each family from scratch.
It also has to bear the overall infrastructure of Huainan.
It also has to bear the Northern Expedition of textile capital accompanying the construction of the canal, and pull the canal area into the rural area of the loom.
If this can be tolerated, it will really rewrite economics.
Anyway, this is what Liu Yu is happy to see, and it is the victory of capitalism over retro utopia.
As for the affluent areas around Nantong that Meng Songlu looked at based on Quan Zhe's body, it was indeed as Quan Zhe said: the infrastructure was completed when Han Gaozu's nephew, Wu Wang Liu Bi.
Anyway, the people who built the canal were dead almost 2000 years ago, and the corvee workers of the imperial court did not stop repairing the river. The predecessors planted trees and the descendants enjoyed the shade.
The people in this place are naturally happy.
The money for Huainan infrastructure is also used by the salt interests of the five provinces and the money of people in other overseas countries. It is not difficult for those large capitals to grow cotton in enclosures.
Digging the river does not require them to work hard, a large number of tenants who were driven out of the countryside, and refugees after the decline of the Yanghuai River.
Meng Songlu and the others just felt that this matter was unfair, but they didn't feel too much dissatisfaction with Liu Yu.
In three to five years of major infrastructure construction, without harming the people, a set of parallel "Fan Gong Dikes" and a new canal from the Huaihe River to the Yangtze River were created. is enough.The Fan Gong Temple elsewhere is definitely not up to standard, but the Fan Gong Temple in Huainan is mainly the Fan Gongdi of Zebei's later generations.
As for the decline of Yangzhou, the attitude of their school is only slightly regretful.Otherwise, Cheng Tingzuo and Wu Jingzi would not have broken up because of the righteousness and small righteousness because of the salt reform.
Meng Songlu may not have noticed that his analysis of the economy has subtly formed a different analysis mode from the past.
He didn't think there was anything abnormal about it, but tried to integrate this brand-new economic analysis thinking with the original Confucianism.
Anyway, Quan Zheshen was going to the village commune, instead of lamenting that "Shangguo is nothing more than that" after arriving there.
It's better to look at these prosperous areas first, feel the prosperity of the country, and then get a vaccination to explain the special situation that the village community is facing.
Moreover, this itself is also a reminder to Quan Zhe: it is the philosophy of the master to get rich first and then teach, which can be proved by the Analects of Confucius.
But if you want to be rich, you have to dig the river first.
Both transportation and water conservancy.
However, this itself is also a realistic dilemma for Confucianism: Take North Korea as an example, suppose that if you use light and heavy techniques to amass money, then build water conservancy, dig canals, and install irrigation.Yes, or not?
This again involves the school disputes of Confucianism since the Song Dynasty, or the insinuation of Confucianism in Dashun at this time-"Guan Zhong", is it benevolent or not?
In addition to the "Guan Zhong" alluding to Xianxue, the real Guan Zhongren is not benevolent. This also involves tracing the way of the former kings. Where is the pursuit?
Chase Zhou Kong?
Or catch up to Confucius and Mencius?
Or chase Kong Xun?
(End of this chapter)
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