Xinshun 1730
Chapter 1286 Death and Vengeance
Chapter 1286 Death and Revenge ([-])
Talking about money doesn't hurt feelings.
When the Tang Dynasty asked the barbarians to send troops, it also had to promise that Chang'an's gold, silk and women would return to Hokage; when the Ming Dynasty welcomed the Eastern barbarians to send troops, it also needed to give [-] stones of rice and tens of thousands of gold and silver.
Very normal situation.
Although the British army was not able to attack Paris, Louisbourg in North America, Seville in West Africa, and Guadeloupe in the Caribbean were all saved by Dashun.
Moreover, even if Paris is attacked, France is not without the matter of preferring to allies rather than domestic slaves.
Li Yan knew very well in his heart that he, the Prince, His Highness, and Marshal, had his land, property, and wealth all from Dashun.
Helping France defeat the British Channel Fleet, in European history, may be regarded as the reputation of "he changed Europe".
But the problem is that all his identity, status, and wealth come from Dashun.
This kind of "invincible achievement" in the decisive battle across the strait is an inexhaustible achievement in Europe, not Dashun's.If there is a decisive battle across the Strait, they might be treated like enclosing the Banzong Renfu when they go back.
Therefore, he still insists on his own attitude, neither will he take the fleet saved by Dashun for 30 years to make wedding clothes for others with a swipe of a pen just because of a few words of flattery; When mentioning cooperation between the two countries, we must talk about the basis of interests.
It's not that De la Crewe is ignorant of Dashun's consistent attitude, but what Li Yan said still made him feel a little uncomfortable.
A kind of discomfort brought on by French European-bred pride.
Li Yan said that all the captives in Gibraltar would be sent back to the UK to create panic.
This is not wrong.
Including De La Crewe's opinion, this choice is also correct.
He witnessed Dashun's terrible bombardment of the British phalanx, and also witnessed the cruelty and blood on the battlefield. He believed that the fear of those who had witnessed it would soon spread throughout Britain through the mouths of these captured soldiers.
The question is... Has Dashun discussed this matter with France?
Li Yan didn't even discuss it. He was not "discussing" with the French, but more like "notifying" the French: We fought this battle, we will deal with these prisoners of war, and we will tell you what we plan to do.
That is the case, there is no doubt about it.
France's Toulon Fleet didn't have many ships, and the main force attacking Gibraltar was Dashun's engineers, but Dashun's arrogance made France, which was used to being the hegemon in Europe, always feel a little uncomfortable.
In addition, now that Gibraltar has been captured, Dashun is also very proud to say the tactical concept from the beginning.
This is of course a need to pretend to be a calf after victory, it is human nature, and it shows Dashun's psychological advantage of "everything is under control".
Before the end of the Battle of Gibraltar, Dashun did not inform France of its own tactical concept.
France has a feeling of being "used by the Chinese" throughout the whole process.
All the preparations in Port of Spain, now it seems, are just a part of Dashun's plan to lure the snake out of the cave.
De la Crewe must have had a knot in his heart about this.
He didn't expect to give an affirmative answer directly in the interests of France, but he still had to do a test.
But after the test, Dashun's attitude and the feeling that "we are the main force, and you are just fighting and cooperating" made him feel very uncomfortable.
"Your Highness, although France and your country are far apart and have different religions and cultures, I think you must have heard a story. And there should be different versions of this story all over the world."
"For example, the story of Temujin's broken arrows, such as the story of King Styki's broken arrows recorded by Plutarch, and it seems that according to the missionaries, there is also the story of Maori Yuan Sanya training in Japan. This story across Europe and Asia , we should all have heard."
"The alliance between France and your country now faces the same enemy."
"Before this enemy is defeated, I think it is necessary for us to carefully discuss the next strategy. Of course, the battle of Gibraltar is a strategy recognized by both sides."
"But then what?"
Li Yan frowned, and asked back: "After that? The Celestial Dynasty opposes your plan to land in Scotland, not because of other reasons, but simply because the plan itself is too risky."
"At this point, I think the Celestial Dynasty is the most qualified to talk about this kind of thing."
What you say is often not the real reason.
The real reason was that Dashun did not want France to dominate.
Because in fact, Dashun also hates the French Colbert doctrine and local industry alternative economic strategy.
England had a cotton ban, and so did France.Moreover, France also has its own silk weaving industry, and there are many industries that overlap with Dashun. France's colonial trade policy is not much different from that of Britain.
Just like for the small-scale peasant class of men farming and women weaving, there is essentially no difference in who owns the goods and capital, whether they belong to the UK or Dashun itself.The difference lies in who owns the national attributes of the bourgeoisie.
At this time, the purpose of Dashun's participation in the European war is also the same.
For the capital of Dashun, there is no difference between Britain implementing navigation regulations and France implementing mercantilism.
This is the real reason.
But on the other hand, how Dashun himself founded the country also affected Dashun's judgment.
Since when the eastern captives invaded and Shenzhou land sank, Dashun carried the banner of protecting the world.So, let's think about the translocation, will it be decided if it can be passed on when it lands in the UK?
I'm afraid it may not be so, but it will arouse British resistance, and may even lead to the centripetal unity of the North American colonies with Britain.
If it is true that there is an "orthodox" heir who can be passed down, then things will be simple.
But Dashun knew that things were not that simple. If there were to be a spontaneous uprising by the British people, to protect Britain, traditions and religion, it would not be enough to rely on the strength of the troops who landed in France and the number of people like Stuart.
Because Dashun has experienced it, Dashun knows what kind of power such people possess. Therefore, when it comes to landing in Scotland, he always thinks that "the return of the king depends on the succession" is too nonsense, and some thinking is too simple.
The Stuart family, is it considered orthodox with a hammer?
The conflict between the Anglican Church and the Puritans is essentially that the Puritans feel that the Anglican Church has changed its skin and does not listen to the Catholicism of the Holy See. In this case, how many serious Catholics are there in the UK? ?
This is the reason why Dashun opposed the plan to land in Scotland from a rational point of view.
This matter is not reliable.
Moreover, so to speak, it is justifiable to oppose the French adventure plan, at least it makes sense.
After listening to Li Yan's explanation and asking the translator to explain to him the meaning of "it depends on the transmission", de la Crue was helpless.
As the saying goes, every family has scriptures that are difficult to recite, and France also has its own considerations.
France, France in the abstract, France in the concrete, the France of the Bourbons, the France of the aristocratic and privileged classes, the France of urban industry and commerce, is not one France.
Due to the taxation issue, the taxation discussion at the Paris Salon had caused trouble.
Wars cost money.
Money is paid by people.
Who pays the money needs to be made clear.
Out of the privileged class?
Common people out?
From the industrial and commercial class?
This matter must be made clear. After all, when the finances were difficult before, the unqualified feudal monarch thought that he could use the middle class to suppress the privileged class, and stupidly initiated a big discussion on taxation, but ended up shooting himself in the foot.
In the current situation in France, there are many problems involved.
Indeed, Dashun's participation in the war has indeed increased the purchase of French national debt.
Amsterdam's international financial capital, originally optimistic about the UK, is now optimistic about France.
Capital, nothing more than buying futures, whoever is bullish buys whoever is.
The problem is that in the age of gold, silver and precious metals, borrowed money cannot be printed, but must be repaid with real gold and silver.
Now, the national debt can be borrowed, at least it is easier to borrow than after the failure of Hannover's adventure.
However, these national debts borrowed will have to be repaid in the future.
France often reneges on its debts, but it doesn't want to renege on its debts now, because if it reneges on its debts now, it will easily explode by itself.
If you don't want to default, you have to pay it back.
How to pay it back?
Whose money should I pay it back?
You can't print money, and it's useless to print money these days, no one recognizes it.
Should the 21 tax that affects the privileged class continue to be collected?
Should the privileged class continue to have tax exemptions?
The trade of ginseng and mink in North America and the trade of sugar and tobacco in the Caribbean, who gets the profits?Are they going to pay for the continuation of the war?
Victory can solve certain problems and suppress certain contradictions.
But, historically, Britain won the Seven Years War, and then what?
Britain, which won the Seven Years War, lost North America after all because of tax issues, repayment of national debt, and colonial expenses.
India is really a strategy where a blind cat meets a dead mouse.Even at the end of the Seven Years' War, the jewels in the crown were still small Caribbean islands, not India.
According to the British understanding of "wealth", "trade" and "economy" at this time, and India is not so valuable at this time, the result of the Seven Years War is that Britain lost North America.
The same is true of France at this time.
Victory in war can cover up certain problems and suppress certain contradictions, but it cannot solve all problems.
France has its peculiarities.
Paris can win the whole of France.
Neither Dashun nor the United Kingdom is the same. The British gentry still firmly controls British politics, and their rule goes deep into the countryside; Dashun is also the same. A capital city cannot win more than 1000 million square kilometers.
But France is different.
After Louis XIV, the old ruling order has begun to change, and Paris gradually has the strength to win the whole of France.
In other words, the public opinion in Paris, the middle class in Paris, the enlightened aristocrats in Paris... and so on, their right to speak can affect the whole of France.
Continue to solve the debt problem and taxation problem after the war. These things cannot be resolved, and they cannot be resolved.
If it is resolved, there will be war and uprising; if it is not resolved, it will still be war and uprising.
Therefore, at this time, Bourbon France no longer wants to fight.
Or, take a big gamble, land in Scotland, eat the flesh and blood of Britain, and suppress the debt problem of France.
Or, stop fighting and negotiate a peace with the UK, use Dashun to frighten the UK, get enough benefits, and stop the peace talks directly.
Or, Dashun and France partnered to eat the Netherlands together.Using knives, guns and cannons, the financial merchants in Amsterdam were forced to buy a large amount of low-interest Dashun and French government bonds, and hit them if they didn't buy them.
However, none of these three things was what Dashun wanted to do at this time.
This is the fundamental difference between France and Dashun.
In the Sino-French alliance, before Gibraltar was conquered, the two sides were really "intimate".
But with Gibraltar captured, the nature of the war changed.
France, hoping to use Dashun to frighten Britain and reach favorable conditions for France, stopped fighting.Austria or Russia are too strong, and Prussia is completely divided, which is not a good thing for France.After all, he had fought with Ollie for hundreds of years before.
Dashun hoped to use France to keep an eye on Britain, so that his own merchant ships and cruise ships could win favorable conditions for Dashun.Without the threat of France, Dashun's fleet would not be able to stir up any waves in the Atlantic Ocean. The British Channel Fleet could directly drive Dashun's fleet back to the Cape of Good Hope.
Both Dashun and France are eager to win.
However, war is a continuation of politics.
The conditions they want after victory are completely different between the two countries.
The conditions that France wants now cannot be achieved alone, and Dashun must cooperate.
The conditions that Dashun wanted could not be achieved alone, and the cooperation of France was necessary.
However, the post-war treaty that Dashun wanted was not the post-war treaty that France wanted.
France is really unable to fight anymore, and if the fight continues, the interior will probably explode.
Everyone has their own thoughts.
It was only then that De la Crewe told the "story of the broken arrow" that traversed various versions across Europe.
But, as a story, it's fine.
But if we look at it as a history, all the parties in the story of Zhajian did not seem to be united as brothers, friends, respectful love, love and unity because of this simple, straightforward and very correct principle of Zhajian.
In view of this, De La Crew asked cautiously: "Then, if your country wants to send the British prisoners back to London, should France also send people to go with them?"
Li Yan was kind and straightforward about this.
"Naturally. Even if you don't tell me, I will ask you to send people there. Among the allies, it is most taboo to contact the enemy alone. We are only going to deter and intimidate. If you don't go, we will not be able to explain it clearly."
(End of this chapter)
Talking about money doesn't hurt feelings.
When the Tang Dynasty asked the barbarians to send troops, it also had to promise that Chang'an's gold, silk and women would return to Hokage; when the Ming Dynasty welcomed the Eastern barbarians to send troops, it also needed to give [-] stones of rice and tens of thousands of gold and silver.
Very normal situation.
Although the British army was not able to attack Paris, Louisbourg in North America, Seville in West Africa, and Guadeloupe in the Caribbean were all saved by Dashun.
Moreover, even if Paris is attacked, France is not without the matter of preferring to allies rather than domestic slaves.
Li Yan knew very well in his heart that he, the Prince, His Highness, and Marshal, had his land, property, and wealth all from Dashun.
Helping France defeat the British Channel Fleet, in European history, may be regarded as the reputation of "he changed Europe".
But the problem is that all his identity, status, and wealth come from Dashun.
This kind of "invincible achievement" in the decisive battle across the strait is an inexhaustible achievement in Europe, not Dashun's.If there is a decisive battle across the Strait, they might be treated like enclosing the Banzong Renfu when they go back.
Therefore, he still insists on his own attitude, neither will he take the fleet saved by Dashun for 30 years to make wedding clothes for others with a swipe of a pen just because of a few words of flattery; When mentioning cooperation between the two countries, we must talk about the basis of interests.
It's not that De la Crewe is ignorant of Dashun's consistent attitude, but what Li Yan said still made him feel a little uncomfortable.
A kind of discomfort brought on by French European-bred pride.
Li Yan said that all the captives in Gibraltar would be sent back to the UK to create panic.
This is not wrong.
Including De La Crewe's opinion, this choice is also correct.
He witnessed Dashun's terrible bombardment of the British phalanx, and also witnessed the cruelty and blood on the battlefield. He believed that the fear of those who had witnessed it would soon spread throughout Britain through the mouths of these captured soldiers.
The question is... Has Dashun discussed this matter with France?
Li Yan didn't even discuss it. He was not "discussing" with the French, but more like "notifying" the French: We fought this battle, we will deal with these prisoners of war, and we will tell you what we plan to do.
That is the case, there is no doubt about it.
France's Toulon Fleet didn't have many ships, and the main force attacking Gibraltar was Dashun's engineers, but Dashun's arrogance made France, which was used to being the hegemon in Europe, always feel a little uncomfortable.
In addition, now that Gibraltar has been captured, Dashun is also very proud to say the tactical concept from the beginning.
This is of course a need to pretend to be a calf after victory, it is human nature, and it shows Dashun's psychological advantage of "everything is under control".
Before the end of the Battle of Gibraltar, Dashun did not inform France of its own tactical concept.
France has a feeling of being "used by the Chinese" throughout the whole process.
All the preparations in Port of Spain, now it seems, are just a part of Dashun's plan to lure the snake out of the cave.
De la Crewe must have had a knot in his heart about this.
He didn't expect to give an affirmative answer directly in the interests of France, but he still had to do a test.
But after the test, Dashun's attitude and the feeling that "we are the main force, and you are just fighting and cooperating" made him feel very uncomfortable.
"Your Highness, although France and your country are far apart and have different religions and cultures, I think you must have heard a story. And there should be different versions of this story all over the world."
"For example, the story of Temujin's broken arrows, such as the story of King Styki's broken arrows recorded by Plutarch, and it seems that according to the missionaries, there is also the story of Maori Yuan Sanya training in Japan. This story across Europe and Asia , we should all have heard."
"The alliance between France and your country now faces the same enemy."
"Before this enemy is defeated, I think it is necessary for us to carefully discuss the next strategy. Of course, the battle of Gibraltar is a strategy recognized by both sides."
"But then what?"
Li Yan frowned, and asked back: "After that? The Celestial Dynasty opposes your plan to land in Scotland, not because of other reasons, but simply because the plan itself is too risky."
"At this point, I think the Celestial Dynasty is the most qualified to talk about this kind of thing."
What you say is often not the real reason.
The real reason was that Dashun did not want France to dominate.
Because in fact, Dashun also hates the French Colbert doctrine and local industry alternative economic strategy.
England had a cotton ban, and so did France.Moreover, France also has its own silk weaving industry, and there are many industries that overlap with Dashun. France's colonial trade policy is not much different from that of Britain.
Just like for the small-scale peasant class of men farming and women weaving, there is essentially no difference in who owns the goods and capital, whether they belong to the UK or Dashun itself.The difference lies in who owns the national attributes of the bourgeoisie.
At this time, the purpose of Dashun's participation in the European war is also the same.
For the capital of Dashun, there is no difference between Britain implementing navigation regulations and France implementing mercantilism.
This is the real reason.
But on the other hand, how Dashun himself founded the country also affected Dashun's judgment.
Since when the eastern captives invaded and Shenzhou land sank, Dashun carried the banner of protecting the world.So, let's think about the translocation, will it be decided if it can be passed on when it lands in the UK?
I'm afraid it may not be so, but it will arouse British resistance, and may even lead to the centripetal unity of the North American colonies with Britain.
If it is true that there is an "orthodox" heir who can be passed down, then things will be simple.
But Dashun knew that things were not that simple. If there were to be a spontaneous uprising by the British people, to protect Britain, traditions and religion, it would not be enough to rely on the strength of the troops who landed in France and the number of people like Stuart.
Because Dashun has experienced it, Dashun knows what kind of power such people possess. Therefore, when it comes to landing in Scotland, he always thinks that "the return of the king depends on the succession" is too nonsense, and some thinking is too simple.
The Stuart family, is it considered orthodox with a hammer?
The conflict between the Anglican Church and the Puritans is essentially that the Puritans feel that the Anglican Church has changed its skin and does not listen to the Catholicism of the Holy See. In this case, how many serious Catholics are there in the UK? ?
This is the reason why Dashun opposed the plan to land in Scotland from a rational point of view.
This matter is not reliable.
Moreover, so to speak, it is justifiable to oppose the French adventure plan, at least it makes sense.
After listening to Li Yan's explanation and asking the translator to explain to him the meaning of "it depends on the transmission", de la Crue was helpless.
As the saying goes, every family has scriptures that are difficult to recite, and France also has its own considerations.
France, France in the abstract, France in the concrete, the France of the Bourbons, the France of the aristocratic and privileged classes, the France of urban industry and commerce, is not one France.
Due to the taxation issue, the taxation discussion at the Paris Salon had caused trouble.
Wars cost money.
Money is paid by people.
Who pays the money needs to be made clear.
Out of the privileged class?
Common people out?
From the industrial and commercial class?
This matter must be made clear. After all, when the finances were difficult before, the unqualified feudal monarch thought that he could use the middle class to suppress the privileged class, and stupidly initiated a big discussion on taxation, but ended up shooting himself in the foot.
In the current situation in France, there are many problems involved.
Indeed, Dashun's participation in the war has indeed increased the purchase of French national debt.
Amsterdam's international financial capital, originally optimistic about the UK, is now optimistic about France.
Capital, nothing more than buying futures, whoever is bullish buys whoever is.
The problem is that in the age of gold, silver and precious metals, borrowed money cannot be printed, but must be repaid with real gold and silver.
Now, the national debt can be borrowed, at least it is easier to borrow than after the failure of Hannover's adventure.
However, these national debts borrowed will have to be repaid in the future.
France often reneges on its debts, but it doesn't want to renege on its debts now, because if it reneges on its debts now, it will easily explode by itself.
If you don't want to default, you have to pay it back.
How to pay it back?
Whose money should I pay it back?
You can't print money, and it's useless to print money these days, no one recognizes it.
Should the 21 tax that affects the privileged class continue to be collected?
Should the privileged class continue to have tax exemptions?
The trade of ginseng and mink in North America and the trade of sugar and tobacco in the Caribbean, who gets the profits?Are they going to pay for the continuation of the war?
Victory can solve certain problems and suppress certain contradictions.
But, historically, Britain won the Seven Years War, and then what?
Britain, which won the Seven Years War, lost North America after all because of tax issues, repayment of national debt, and colonial expenses.
India is really a strategy where a blind cat meets a dead mouse.Even at the end of the Seven Years' War, the jewels in the crown were still small Caribbean islands, not India.
According to the British understanding of "wealth", "trade" and "economy" at this time, and India is not so valuable at this time, the result of the Seven Years War is that Britain lost North America.
The same is true of France at this time.
Victory in war can cover up certain problems and suppress certain contradictions, but it cannot solve all problems.
France has its peculiarities.
Paris can win the whole of France.
Neither Dashun nor the United Kingdom is the same. The British gentry still firmly controls British politics, and their rule goes deep into the countryside; Dashun is also the same. A capital city cannot win more than 1000 million square kilometers.
But France is different.
After Louis XIV, the old ruling order has begun to change, and Paris gradually has the strength to win the whole of France.
In other words, the public opinion in Paris, the middle class in Paris, the enlightened aristocrats in Paris... and so on, their right to speak can affect the whole of France.
Continue to solve the debt problem and taxation problem after the war. These things cannot be resolved, and they cannot be resolved.
If it is resolved, there will be war and uprising; if it is not resolved, it will still be war and uprising.
Therefore, at this time, Bourbon France no longer wants to fight.
Or, take a big gamble, land in Scotland, eat the flesh and blood of Britain, and suppress the debt problem of France.
Or, stop fighting and negotiate a peace with the UK, use Dashun to frighten the UK, get enough benefits, and stop the peace talks directly.
Or, Dashun and France partnered to eat the Netherlands together.Using knives, guns and cannons, the financial merchants in Amsterdam were forced to buy a large amount of low-interest Dashun and French government bonds, and hit them if they didn't buy them.
However, none of these three things was what Dashun wanted to do at this time.
This is the fundamental difference between France and Dashun.
In the Sino-French alliance, before Gibraltar was conquered, the two sides were really "intimate".
But with Gibraltar captured, the nature of the war changed.
France, hoping to use Dashun to frighten Britain and reach favorable conditions for France, stopped fighting.Austria or Russia are too strong, and Prussia is completely divided, which is not a good thing for France.After all, he had fought with Ollie for hundreds of years before.
Dashun hoped to use France to keep an eye on Britain, so that his own merchant ships and cruise ships could win favorable conditions for Dashun.Without the threat of France, Dashun's fleet would not be able to stir up any waves in the Atlantic Ocean. The British Channel Fleet could directly drive Dashun's fleet back to the Cape of Good Hope.
Both Dashun and France are eager to win.
However, war is a continuation of politics.
The conditions they want after victory are completely different between the two countries.
The conditions that France wants now cannot be achieved alone, and Dashun must cooperate.
The conditions that Dashun wanted could not be achieved alone, and the cooperation of France was necessary.
However, the post-war treaty that Dashun wanted was not the post-war treaty that France wanted.
France is really unable to fight anymore, and if the fight continues, the interior will probably explode.
Everyone has their own thoughts.
It was only then that De la Crewe told the "story of the broken arrow" that traversed various versions across Europe.
But, as a story, it's fine.
But if we look at it as a history, all the parties in the story of Zhajian did not seem to be united as brothers, friends, respectful love, love and unity because of this simple, straightforward and very correct principle of Zhajian.
In view of this, De La Crew asked cautiously: "Then, if your country wants to send the British prisoners back to London, should France also send people to go with them?"
Li Yan was kind and straightforward about this.
"Naturally. Even if you don't tell me, I will ask you to send people there. Among the allies, it is most taboo to contact the enemy alone. We are only going to deter and intimidate. If you don't go, we will not be able to explain it clearly."
(End of this chapter)
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