Xinshun 1730
Chapter 224 Reserves and Practical Studies
Chapter 224 Reserves and Practical Studies
Finally, it comes to the issue of tactics that have fallen behind, which is exactly what the Minister of the Military Government wants to grasp.
Did Dashun have a problem with the military system?
Is it just tactical backwardness?
If it's just that the tactics are backward, you only need to replace the flintlock and bayonet. There is no such drastic change at all.
Isn't it the new musket?Is there any difficulty?
While Liu Yu was talking about this issue, the Minister of the Military Government asked again: "Since Ying Sabo also believes that the military system of the country is only backward in tactics, then it is enough to popularize new guns. The so-called military training offices, military schools, staff officers, etc. It's not really necessary."
Liu Yu asked back: "If you don't use the military training office, how can you select qualified recruits? If you don't select qualified recruits, how can you get rid of the old ones?"
"The local garrison is deeply entrenched, and unless the central government comes forward to directly manage it, it will be difficult to change it. If there is no change, how will all the staff learn new formations? The staff officers sent are so indifferent, how can they train new tactics? This training is necessary. .”
"Secondly, there are many changes in new tactics and new tactics. When marching, how far apart are the columns? Why are there so many gaps? How do they change when they are expanded into horizontal formations? Which company goes first and which company goes behind? Retreat How to withdraw when the time comes?"
"Don't these things need to be studied in a military academy? Those who were generals before have their own methods, so that the soldiers will be separated, and the soldiers will not be available."
"Originally, the general uses A, and the other uses B. The soldiers trained by the two may be usable. However, once the general is changed, they cannot be used."
"Now the tactics are unified and the orders are unified. In this way, even if the soldiers are separated or change generals, the orders are still available."
"But to achieve unified tactics and unified orders, military academies and military training offices are necessary."
"How can Lord Shang Shu say that this is useless?"
Just now, the Minister of the Military Government questioned Liu Yu with a very realistic question of "abolishment". Now Liu Yu followed the example and asked a very realistic question.
The minister of the military government is still clear-headed. He knows the advantages of turning the flower team into a pure team, and has also witnessed the Qingzhou Army's record in the Western Regions. He has no objection to the change in tactics.
Or think that there is no way to refute Liu Yu on this point, so they skip these and directly ask some very realistic things.
Then Liu Yu also asked very realistic questions.
If there is no troop training office, how can we ensure that the recruits of the new army can be selected to be qualified?
If the local military generals are allowed to train and eliminate independently, how can they ensure that they eliminate only the old and the weak?
This offending matter should have been taken care of by someone else.Who will bear it?Who can bear it?
Naturally, the court government and the emperor are responsible for the responsibility. If the emperor does not want to bear the burden of infamy, but also wants to save military expenses and abolish the old army, then there is no need to discuss it.
If the emperor is willing to bear this infamy, then a military training office must be set up, so as to bypass the intricate local relations.
This is actually the same as Liu Yu's frightening saying that "the emperor trained a group of cadres to parachute to the local area to check the farmland".
Rely on airborne to solve the intertwined resistance.
Neither check accounts nor check ordnance, just select soldiers.
Don't blame the past for everything that happened before, and don't care about the blood of soldiers and air pay.
Those who do not restrain themselves after the military reform will be dealt with again.
Dare to touch those who came down from the air, even if the small officials in the military training department are only seven or eight rank, if you dare to touch them, it is treason.
Unless you lose your mind.
The emperor had just finished fighting Rakshasa and Junggar, and it was the time when his prestige was the highest.Who dares to rebel at this time?
We must first weigh whether we can beat the Qingzhou Army, which has created miracles, and the Beijing Camp, which has always been considered the most capable, and the field troops in Xijing?
Liu Yu said again: "Besides, the military academy system and the Wude Palace's three-house method of camping and learning are in the same line, and there is no difficulty in reforming them."
"In the future, the selection of military academies will be like the imperial examination. The number of good family sons entering the Wude Palace will remain the same, and the Wude Palace will still be capable of writing and military, but the military academy will only train specialized officers."
"The new military academy, together with the Jinghai Palace official school, will actually allow good families to have more opportunities and select more talents from all over the world."
"In the past, nobles and nobles commanded the army first, and they were appointed as honorary guards first, and then became nobles after they were trained in the Beijing camp. After being a noble, the position is high, and after going out, they have to go out of the town, which is often not the point."
"The staff system and troop training department can guarantee a well-organized army, and even an incompetent general will not be easily defeated. In the future, the Beijing camp will be reformed, and the honorable children of the lords should also start as the battalion commander and be familiar with military affairs. Expensive corruption has no disadvantages."
"The honorable bastard can join the army again, and there is another way, so as not to be idle all day long."
"Bow drawing, archery, shooting guns, etc. are abolished in the assessment and selection, and more poor children can study arithmetic, etc., and then learn guns after entering the military academy. This can also provide another way for civilians."
"The change in military ranks has made it a profession to be an official in the army. Isn't that a good thing? Those who come out of the military academy don't have to study in civil affairs, so they don't have to worry about taking the quota of the imperial examination."
"As for the General Staff or the Privy Council...that's not for the ministers to decide."
At this point in the debate, Liu Yu couldn't talk about the rest of the topic.
He can only talk about the benefits of the change and the general process, and answer some detailed questions.
But the re-construction and distribution of power is something the emperor and Tianyou Temple have to consider.
Whether it is called the General Staff Department or the Privy Council, does the head of the Privy Council have peace?
How should the powers and responsibilities be divided between the Privy Council and the Military Government?
Since the Privy Council is in charge of military strategy, maps, peripheral information, and other duties and responsibilities of the staff must be obtained.
This is exactly what the military government did very poorly.
About the surrounding military situation, I don't know anything about it.
When there is no fight, I don't care at all. When there is a fight, I just prepare in a hurry without any plan at all.
Ordinarily speaking, with regard to the situation in Dashun and the surrounding situation, the staff should be aware of it.Burma, Vietnam, Japan, Mughals, Russia...but no.
The thinking of the military government is not the thinking of the army, but the "view of the world" under the imperial examination system, and its eyes are all on the inside.
It's not that we have to resort to military action, but we must make plans for the surrounding area.Whether to fight or not is one thing, but whether there is a plan when you want to fight is another matter.
The few people in the military government were not enough to do these things.Moreover, they specialize in technology, and they don't understand the military strength of the surrounding countries.
The General Staff or the Privy Council must take this into their hands, and the full-time departments are responsible for the plans in different directions.At least roads, maps, towns, customs defenses, etc. must be clear.To do this, you need people who have learned practical knowledge and understand surveying and mapping.
These things, relying on the military government with a background in imperial examinations, simply can't do it.
As for the Military Selection Department, high-level military officers, the emperor and Tianyou Palace could have intervened.
The emperor wanted to centralize power, and the military power of the military government was already in jeopardy.
The establishment of a military academy is fundamentally different from the imperial examination, and it is impossible to grasp it if you want to.
Take these items away, what is left of the Military Government?
There may still be some responsibilities left, but the rest are dispensable things.
These issues involving the redistribution and balance of power can only be negotiated by the emperor and the core personnel. Anyway, Liu Yu can't make the decision.
In fact, these things are leftovers in Liu Yu's view.
The real core of the military reform is the military rank system and the regular discharge system.
After retiring, officers retain reserve service and continue to receive one-third of their military pay.
After the veterans are discharged from the army, either the state arranges them to settle in the frontier at a cost of about 70 taels per person; or they directly give them a two-year salary of about 30 taels as resettlement expenses.It doesn't matter whether it's buying land or doing small business, the rest doesn't matter.
But once the country urgently needs soldiers, they can be quickly recruited into the army to maintain enough soldiers.
Taking the 20 standing army as an example, after a seven-year service period, 3 soldiers will be retired each year after the formation of a large scale. 40 people are compensated at a one-time price of 120 taels, which is 45 million taels. The court can still squeeze out this little money, especially after the military reform has reduced the number of troops from 20 to [-].
Seven years of service and 15 years of reserve service can ensure that the imperial court can pull out 60 trained troops at any time when it is in crisis.
This is the most meaningful part of the military reform for the Li family dynasty, or for possible foreign invasions.
Otherwise, with Dashun's military system, once the elite were reimbursed, it would be over.
The newly recruited troops have no combat effectiveness at all, and the army is just a one-time army.
The 60 trained frontline soldiers can basically guarantee that there is no need to worry about foreign invasion.
As for internal uprisings, after all, it is human beings who hold weapons, and the more veterans with military experience, the better.
Furthermore, Liu Yu also has his own little plan.
In the future, when we plan to manage Nanyang and hire manpower, veterans must be given priority.With military experience, he can show his power in Nanyang where he needs to be stationed.
On the whole, the military rank system and the resettlement of veterans have made this military reform seem to have cut the number of troops from 45 to 20, but the actual military expenditure has not been reduced.
If you are willing to spend money, you can raise a strong army.
Soldiers are fine, not many.
In the entire military reform plan, the old soldiers who benefited were the combatable soldiers in the Beijing camp, Shaanxi, Gansu and other places.
Because they will not be cut, just retrained.And according to the number of years of service, the military salary will continue to increase. Although the increase is not much, it is also beneficial.
The way for the sons of good families to become officials in the Wude Palace has not been blocked. On the contrary, the opening of the military academy has given some people who could not pass the Wude Palace a new way out.
Especially in the short term, when there are not too many new-style practical schools established, it means that [-]% of the officers are from good families.
The emperor didn't want to see this, so he wanted to open a new practical school.In the short term, the good families can't see the competition. Instead, they feel that the military academy has given them a better way out. When practical schools spring up like mushrooms after rain, their advantages will be offset.
At that time, either accept it honestly, or be purged... Or, if you have the ability, you can stage a mutiny, clear the side of the monarch, and keep your own hidden privileges.
And once there are more schools of practical studies, and more people start to learn practical studies that have nothing to do with the words of the sages, this atmosphere can stimulate more outstanding science talents.
In fact... the things learned in the military school can be learned by those who come from the imperial examination. It is not difficult, unless you go to the artillery or the navy.
But since the Wudegong Sanshe method itself has reserved a route parallel to the imperial examination, it is natural to pretend that you have to learn enough practical knowledge to be admitted to the military academy.
It's not just a selection.
Just like Dashun changed from Stereotyped to Celun and back to Stereotyped from Celun before, he just picked people who are not so stupid, and the real knowledge is gradually learned from practice in the future.
After the establishment of practical studies, the base number is large, and maybe there are ten or eight who are addicted to mathematics and physics, leading the academic frontier of the times.
Moreover, the lack of brainwashing from childhood by fathers and sons of monarchs, ministers, and ministers will make it easier to spread some ideas in the future.
The cost of printing books is not high, and pamphlets that can be understood by literacy are the most suitable for instigating this group of literate and educated people, but they are regarded as uneducated by the imperial examination.
The military reform of the army, for Liu Yu, really cares about practical learning.Taking advantage of the shell of the military reform, what we want to promote is practical learning.
As for whether the emperor should make a big decision to reform the military, his attitude meant that he had to take three steps, but in fact he only wanted to take one step forward.
The Navy agreed, as long as it can guarantee a new army of more than 2 people within five years, can win Japan, and can capture Batavia and Malacca.That's the bottom line.
As long as the emperor is thinking about military reform, there will be several places that can't be avoided at all, and there will always be one result that Liu Yu wants.
(End of this chapter)
Finally, it comes to the issue of tactics that have fallen behind, which is exactly what the Minister of the Military Government wants to grasp.
Did Dashun have a problem with the military system?
Is it just tactical backwardness?
If it's just that the tactics are backward, you only need to replace the flintlock and bayonet. There is no such drastic change at all.
Isn't it the new musket?Is there any difficulty?
While Liu Yu was talking about this issue, the Minister of the Military Government asked again: "Since Ying Sabo also believes that the military system of the country is only backward in tactics, then it is enough to popularize new guns. The so-called military training offices, military schools, staff officers, etc. It's not really necessary."
Liu Yu asked back: "If you don't use the military training office, how can you select qualified recruits? If you don't select qualified recruits, how can you get rid of the old ones?"
"The local garrison is deeply entrenched, and unless the central government comes forward to directly manage it, it will be difficult to change it. If there is no change, how will all the staff learn new formations? The staff officers sent are so indifferent, how can they train new tactics? This training is necessary. .”
"Secondly, there are many changes in new tactics and new tactics. When marching, how far apart are the columns? Why are there so many gaps? How do they change when they are expanded into horizontal formations? Which company goes first and which company goes behind? Retreat How to withdraw when the time comes?"
"Don't these things need to be studied in a military academy? Those who were generals before have their own methods, so that the soldiers will be separated, and the soldiers will not be available."
"Originally, the general uses A, and the other uses B. The soldiers trained by the two may be usable. However, once the general is changed, they cannot be used."
"Now the tactics are unified and the orders are unified. In this way, even if the soldiers are separated or change generals, the orders are still available."
"But to achieve unified tactics and unified orders, military academies and military training offices are necessary."
"How can Lord Shang Shu say that this is useless?"
Just now, the Minister of the Military Government questioned Liu Yu with a very realistic question of "abolishment". Now Liu Yu followed the example and asked a very realistic question.
The minister of the military government is still clear-headed. He knows the advantages of turning the flower team into a pure team, and has also witnessed the Qingzhou Army's record in the Western Regions. He has no objection to the change in tactics.
Or think that there is no way to refute Liu Yu on this point, so they skip these and directly ask some very realistic things.
Then Liu Yu also asked very realistic questions.
If there is no troop training office, how can we ensure that the recruits of the new army can be selected to be qualified?
If the local military generals are allowed to train and eliminate independently, how can they ensure that they eliminate only the old and the weak?
This offending matter should have been taken care of by someone else.Who will bear it?Who can bear it?
Naturally, the court government and the emperor are responsible for the responsibility. If the emperor does not want to bear the burden of infamy, but also wants to save military expenses and abolish the old army, then there is no need to discuss it.
If the emperor is willing to bear this infamy, then a military training office must be set up, so as to bypass the intricate local relations.
This is actually the same as Liu Yu's frightening saying that "the emperor trained a group of cadres to parachute to the local area to check the farmland".
Rely on airborne to solve the intertwined resistance.
Neither check accounts nor check ordnance, just select soldiers.
Don't blame the past for everything that happened before, and don't care about the blood of soldiers and air pay.
Those who do not restrain themselves after the military reform will be dealt with again.
Dare to touch those who came down from the air, even if the small officials in the military training department are only seven or eight rank, if you dare to touch them, it is treason.
Unless you lose your mind.
The emperor had just finished fighting Rakshasa and Junggar, and it was the time when his prestige was the highest.Who dares to rebel at this time?
We must first weigh whether we can beat the Qingzhou Army, which has created miracles, and the Beijing Camp, which has always been considered the most capable, and the field troops in Xijing?
Liu Yu said again: "Besides, the military academy system and the Wude Palace's three-house method of camping and learning are in the same line, and there is no difficulty in reforming them."
"In the future, the selection of military academies will be like the imperial examination. The number of good family sons entering the Wude Palace will remain the same, and the Wude Palace will still be capable of writing and military, but the military academy will only train specialized officers."
"The new military academy, together with the Jinghai Palace official school, will actually allow good families to have more opportunities and select more talents from all over the world."
"In the past, nobles and nobles commanded the army first, and they were appointed as honorary guards first, and then became nobles after they were trained in the Beijing camp. After being a noble, the position is high, and after going out, they have to go out of the town, which is often not the point."
"The staff system and troop training department can guarantee a well-organized army, and even an incompetent general will not be easily defeated. In the future, the Beijing camp will be reformed, and the honorable children of the lords should also start as the battalion commander and be familiar with military affairs. Expensive corruption has no disadvantages."
"The honorable bastard can join the army again, and there is another way, so as not to be idle all day long."
"Bow drawing, archery, shooting guns, etc. are abolished in the assessment and selection, and more poor children can study arithmetic, etc., and then learn guns after entering the military academy. This can also provide another way for civilians."
"The change in military ranks has made it a profession to be an official in the army. Isn't that a good thing? Those who come out of the military academy don't have to study in civil affairs, so they don't have to worry about taking the quota of the imperial examination."
"As for the General Staff or the Privy Council...that's not for the ministers to decide."
At this point in the debate, Liu Yu couldn't talk about the rest of the topic.
He can only talk about the benefits of the change and the general process, and answer some detailed questions.
But the re-construction and distribution of power is something the emperor and Tianyou Temple have to consider.
Whether it is called the General Staff Department or the Privy Council, does the head of the Privy Council have peace?
How should the powers and responsibilities be divided between the Privy Council and the Military Government?
Since the Privy Council is in charge of military strategy, maps, peripheral information, and other duties and responsibilities of the staff must be obtained.
This is exactly what the military government did very poorly.
About the surrounding military situation, I don't know anything about it.
When there is no fight, I don't care at all. When there is a fight, I just prepare in a hurry without any plan at all.
Ordinarily speaking, with regard to the situation in Dashun and the surrounding situation, the staff should be aware of it.Burma, Vietnam, Japan, Mughals, Russia...but no.
The thinking of the military government is not the thinking of the army, but the "view of the world" under the imperial examination system, and its eyes are all on the inside.
It's not that we have to resort to military action, but we must make plans for the surrounding area.Whether to fight or not is one thing, but whether there is a plan when you want to fight is another matter.
The few people in the military government were not enough to do these things.Moreover, they specialize in technology, and they don't understand the military strength of the surrounding countries.
The General Staff or the Privy Council must take this into their hands, and the full-time departments are responsible for the plans in different directions.At least roads, maps, towns, customs defenses, etc. must be clear.To do this, you need people who have learned practical knowledge and understand surveying and mapping.
These things, relying on the military government with a background in imperial examinations, simply can't do it.
As for the Military Selection Department, high-level military officers, the emperor and Tianyou Palace could have intervened.
The emperor wanted to centralize power, and the military power of the military government was already in jeopardy.
The establishment of a military academy is fundamentally different from the imperial examination, and it is impossible to grasp it if you want to.
Take these items away, what is left of the Military Government?
There may still be some responsibilities left, but the rest are dispensable things.
These issues involving the redistribution and balance of power can only be negotiated by the emperor and the core personnel. Anyway, Liu Yu can't make the decision.
In fact, these things are leftovers in Liu Yu's view.
The real core of the military reform is the military rank system and the regular discharge system.
After retiring, officers retain reserve service and continue to receive one-third of their military pay.
After the veterans are discharged from the army, either the state arranges them to settle in the frontier at a cost of about 70 taels per person; or they directly give them a two-year salary of about 30 taels as resettlement expenses.It doesn't matter whether it's buying land or doing small business, the rest doesn't matter.
But once the country urgently needs soldiers, they can be quickly recruited into the army to maintain enough soldiers.
Taking the 20 standing army as an example, after a seven-year service period, 3 soldiers will be retired each year after the formation of a large scale. 40 people are compensated at a one-time price of 120 taels, which is 45 million taels. The court can still squeeze out this little money, especially after the military reform has reduced the number of troops from 20 to [-].
Seven years of service and 15 years of reserve service can ensure that the imperial court can pull out 60 trained troops at any time when it is in crisis.
This is the most meaningful part of the military reform for the Li family dynasty, or for possible foreign invasions.
Otherwise, with Dashun's military system, once the elite were reimbursed, it would be over.
The newly recruited troops have no combat effectiveness at all, and the army is just a one-time army.
The 60 trained frontline soldiers can basically guarantee that there is no need to worry about foreign invasion.
As for internal uprisings, after all, it is human beings who hold weapons, and the more veterans with military experience, the better.
Furthermore, Liu Yu also has his own little plan.
In the future, when we plan to manage Nanyang and hire manpower, veterans must be given priority.With military experience, he can show his power in Nanyang where he needs to be stationed.
On the whole, the military rank system and the resettlement of veterans have made this military reform seem to have cut the number of troops from 45 to 20, but the actual military expenditure has not been reduced.
If you are willing to spend money, you can raise a strong army.
Soldiers are fine, not many.
In the entire military reform plan, the old soldiers who benefited were the combatable soldiers in the Beijing camp, Shaanxi, Gansu and other places.
Because they will not be cut, just retrained.And according to the number of years of service, the military salary will continue to increase. Although the increase is not much, it is also beneficial.
The way for the sons of good families to become officials in the Wude Palace has not been blocked. On the contrary, the opening of the military academy has given some people who could not pass the Wude Palace a new way out.
Especially in the short term, when there are not too many new-style practical schools established, it means that [-]% of the officers are from good families.
The emperor didn't want to see this, so he wanted to open a new practical school.In the short term, the good families can't see the competition. Instead, they feel that the military academy has given them a better way out. When practical schools spring up like mushrooms after rain, their advantages will be offset.
At that time, either accept it honestly, or be purged... Or, if you have the ability, you can stage a mutiny, clear the side of the monarch, and keep your own hidden privileges.
And once there are more schools of practical studies, and more people start to learn practical studies that have nothing to do with the words of the sages, this atmosphere can stimulate more outstanding science talents.
In fact... the things learned in the military school can be learned by those who come from the imperial examination. It is not difficult, unless you go to the artillery or the navy.
But since the Wudegong Sanshe method itself has reserved a route parallel to the imperial examination, it is natural to pretend that you have to learn enough practical knowledge to be admitted to the military academy.
It's not just a selection.
Just like Dashun changed from Stereotyped to Celun and back to Stereotyped from Celun before, he just picked people who are not so stupid, and the real knowledge is gradually learned from practice in the future.
After the establishment of practical studies, the base number is large, and maybe there are ten or eight who are addicted to mathematics and physics, leading the academic frontier of the times.
Moreover, the lack of brainwashing from childhood by fathers and sons of monarchs, ministers, and ministers will make it easier to spread some ideas in the future.
The cost of printing books is not high, and pamphlets that can be understood by literacy are the most suitable for instigating this group of literate and educated people, but they are regarded as uneducated by the imperial examination.
The military reform of the army, for Liu Yu, really cares about practical learning.Taking advantage of the shell of the military reform, what we want to promote is practical learning.
As for whether the emperor should make a big decision to reform the military, his attitude meant that he had to take three steps, but in fact he only wanted to take one step forward.
The Navy agreed, as long as it can guarantee a new army of more than 2 people within five years, can win Japan, and can capture Batavia and Malacca.That's the bottom line.
As long as the emperor is thinking about military reform, there will be several places that can't be avoided at all, and there will always be one result that Liu Yu wants.
(End of this chapter)
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