Xinshun 1730
Chapter 449 Make Conditions, Not Negotiate
Chapter 449 Make Conditions, Not Negotiate
This time, to show his trust, Li Gan handed Liu Yu the Japanese letter asking for peace after making a joke.
Liu Yu asserted before that after the Battle of Hagi, the Japanese needed peace talks.
After explaining clearly the constraints and contradictions between the Japanese regime and the shogunate daimyo, it was easy for the emperor to understand.
Being an emperor is a good hand in doing this kind of thing.If you think about it a little bit, you can know what the Tokugawa shogunate is up to.
But just to be on the safe side, the emperor still asked.
"How? Is it true desire for peace? Or is it a tactic to delay the attack?"
Liu Yu listened to the words "strategy to slow down the army", and thought to himself, "Have a hammer?"
Give the Tokugawa shogunate half a year, even if he has everything in place, he will not be able to build a navy.
This thing can't be built with just a few pieces of wood, and whether it can control the sail is also a problem.
In terms of land warfare, the only ones in East Asia who can make their own flintlock guns are the Dashun family.
If you want to buy from Westerners, even if Japan really has mountains of gold and silver, it will take a year or two before the news gets to Amsterdam and shipped back.
After the Dutch saw that Dashun had gathered [-] troops in Xiaobin, they were immediately persuaded: The Netherlands looked down on Dashun's broken ships, and also looked down on Dashun's navy with no actual combat experience, but the Dutch really It is impossible to assemble a force of about [-] troops in East Asia to carry out large-scale operations.
Spain has already gone to war with the United Kingdom because of Jenkins' ears, and Luzon is too busy to take care of himself at this time.Portugal is even more afraid to speak out because of Macau.
Japan has no allies that can be drawn. It is useless to rely on tens of thousands of 10,000+ warriors and a few broken ships of less than [-] stone.
"Returning to Your Majesty, I think the Japanese people really want to talk about it this time. I have already discussed this matter before. There is really no need to talk about the peace talks with the Japanese country."
"It's just... from ancient times to the present, the affairs of the celestial dynasty have always been based on history. It is nothing more than because the celestial dynasty has been strong and prosperous, and dynasties have risen and fallen. Taking history as a mirror, the gains and losses of dynasties can always be based on."
"However, the Japanese were attacked today, and the navy defeated the enemy. With the speed of our troop movement, the Japanese were passive everywhere. Please also record it as history for future reference."
"The matter of the navy must not stop."
Speaking of the navy again, although it has been said more than once, the meaning of saying it now is quite different from what it said before.
Now, Liu Yu can be described as "absolutely selfless".
Because not only the military power has been handed over, but after the establishment of the Ministry of the Navy, it is impossible for Liu Yu to intervene in the construction of the navy.
Speaking of these words at this time, it sounded like a remonstrance before retiring, and the meaning of the sounds moved the emperor a little bit.
Liu Yu was relieved, and said that this matter should be written on the screen, and after thinking about it as a hindsight, it was time to talk about peace talks.
Regarding the peace talks, no matter when the Japanese insisted on talking with Liu Yu, the DPRK and China decided to let Liu Yu preside over the negotiations.
This time the Japanese sent a letter for peace talks, but it was just a formality and a formal appointment.
"Since His Majesty entrusts ministers with heavy responsibilities, he will definitely live up to His Majesty's entrustment. But, dare to ask Your Majesty, what is the bottom line?"
The Emperor held out two fingers.
"My bottom line is nothing more than two points."
"One, paying tribute."
"Secondly, the Satsuma clan must apologize."
"Beyond the bottom line, Chaozhong has always known your ability, so you just look at it."
"It's just that Aiqing insists on carrying the power of great victory and going to Maguan to show off his power. Be careful of Japanese 'righteous men' assassinating."
"I think it's better to talk in Busan if we want to talk. When it's time to sign the contract, if Aiqing has to go to Maguan to make a splash, then there's nothing wrong with going to Maguan."
"As for the details of the negotiations with the Wa Kingdom, people from the courteous government will wait for him in the capital. Aiqing only needs to talk about some practical matters. I think I started thinking about today's affairs ten years ago. I can rest assured that you will handle the matter."
The emperor was really worried about Liu Yu's safety. Although he couldn't fully understand why Liu Yu had to go to Maguan to sign the contract, it was not incomprehensible from the perspective of this moment.
It is nothing more than the bragging of the victor.
Thinking that Liu Yu may have been thinking about this matter ten years ago, a dream in ten years, and now the dream has finally come true, how can he not be excited?
It is understandable to go to the land of the Japanese to show off their might.
He was not afraid that Liu Yu would do what happened to Li Zongcheng in the Wanli period of the previous dynasty. Unlike Li Zongcheng who attacked the noble because of his father's shadow, Liu Yu was the Earl himself. Not to mention going to Maguan, he just ran to Jiang Even dare to go.
It was just because of this that he worried that Liu Yu was oppressing too hard, so that those in Japan who felt humiliated were not allowed to engage in assassination or the like.
Thinking about it in another way, if Dashun was forced to surrender in peace talks, but the enemy deliberately came to places like Tianjin and Songjiang to show off their power, how could there be a few bloody people who would stand up.
Liu Yu wasn't worried, he thought he was going to Maguan anyway.
This time the emperor did not arrange another person from the Li government to be a deputy envoy, but Zhao Baiquan who was still in Busan to assist, but not a deputy envoy.
Because in this negotiation, one thing is quite embarrassing.
The so-called king does not rule barbarians and di, whoever comes does not refuse, and whoever goes does not pursue.Paying tribute and claiming vassal status is usually done on the initiative of others, and I have never heard of anyone forcing others to pay tribute.
Even if we talked with Japan, and after talking about paying tribute, Japan had to take the initiative to send people to the capital.
Please submit the form and seal it up, and then the government of Dashun will come forward to accept it, and according to the manpower of Japan, seal all the important ones as officials.
Not allowing people from the Li government to intervene at all, this also shows that the emperor wanted to hit Japan hard, probably because he had tasted the sweetness of going to war to make money, and there were rumors that Japan had a lot of gold and silver, so he must be tempted.
As for others, occupying Japan, enforcing Japan, disintegrating Japan, or retaining the shogunate, these four ideas have been debated more than once since the Battle of Hagi Castle Liu Yu asserted that Japan would take the initiative to negotiate peace.
In the end, the emperor made a decision and approved Liu Yu's idea of "retaining the shogunate system" as the keynote of the peace talks.
Now the full authority is given to Liu Yu to discuss, and the emperor doesn't think there should be any more instructions, so he just asks Liu Yu to go back and prepare, and set off for Busan as soon as possible.
Back at the Earl's Mansion, Wada Zhenyi lingered for the night, and on the second day, assigned homework to the orphan students who came to the capital from Weihai, and then set off for Tianjin.
Along the way, the emperor sent fifty guard cavalry to follow, and when they arrived at Busan, the navy and army would send out guards.
In Tianjin, a new French-style 74-gun battleship was already waiting there.
Before the arrival of French craftsmen last year, Weihai already had experience in building 64-gun battleships. It spent a lot of money to train a group of craftsmen to practice their hands, and produced an old ship that could only be nestled in the Bohai Sea and was not suitable for activities in East Asia. Slow battleship.
A large amount of wood has already been hoarded, and the arsenal has produced enough cannons for this planned battleship early on. It took more than half a year to finally build it, but it did not catch up with the opportunity to bombard Hagi Castle.
The first time he appeared on the stage, it was used as a deterrent force during negotiations.Two cruisers and four light-sailed clippers followed, formed a fleet, and arrived at Pusan along the route the navy had already taken very well.
At this time, Japan's convenient negotiating missions have also arrived, including the Japanese king here, whose level is sufficient.
The Japanese king represents the public, Lin Xinchong agrees with the cultural circle, and Matsudaira Huizhen represents the samurai family. In fact, it is Matsudaira Huizhen who actually presides over the negotiations.
Liu Yu went straight to the point and didn't talk nonsense, but gave the conditions he listed.
The king of Japan descended from the title of emperor and proclaimed himself king; the shogunate was not allowed to call himself a maharaja or king, and was instead canonized by the celestial dynasty to ensure that the shogunate remained hereditary.
Ceded Ezo, Oki Island, and Tsushima Island to Dashun.
Five ports were opened on Kyushu Island, Shikoku Island, and near Osaka and the Karatsu Strait.
Dashun proposed a tariff of 5.00% of the value of goods, which could be collected by the shogunate.However, after the tariff is collected, the goods sold in Japan shall not be subject to other taxes.
Dismantle the forts in the Xiaguan Strait, and never build forts on both sides of the Xiaguan Strait.
Return the northern islands of Ryukyu, and discard the "Fifteen Articles" signed in the past.
The lord of the Satsuma domain must go to Ryukyu to apologize in person and go to the Ryukyu ancestral temple to worship in person.
Since the Wanli period to the present, for more than a hundred years, the Satsuma domain has embezzled the Ryukyu tribute trade, equivalent to 1 taels per year, and compensated 200 million taels of Kuping silver in total with principal and interest.
Compensation for the treasures plundered in Ryukyu back then was worth 300 million taels. If they could pay tribute, they would all be vassals.
Compensation for Dashun Army's military expenses, battle damage, pensions, logistics, etc., totaling 500 million taels.
Trade with the Netherlands is abolished, and no trade with countries outside the Celestial Dynasty system is allowed without the permission of Dashun.
Trade with North Korea is abolished, and no trade with countries within the Celestial Dynasty system is allowed without the permission of Dashun.
Merchants shall not be prevented from trading at ports of entry.
Contributed to the "History of Japan", and the imperial court government deleted the presumptuous words in it.
The King of Japan and the shogunate succeeded hereditary, and the imperial conferment was performed by the Celestial Dynasty...
There are more than [-] conditions in total. The Celestial Dynasty has only rights and no obligations, but some obligations are needless to say.
After joining the tributary system, the Celestial Dynasty is naturally obliged to protect it from threats from forces outside the Celestial Dynasty. The vassal's participation in the Celestial Dynasty system itself is a right.
Matsudaira Huizhen also knew the bottom line of the shogunate. After seeing these conditions, her heart was actually very peaceful.
It was very peaceful at first, but after the defeat, they were helpless and could only let Dashun raise conditions.
Now that Liu Yu came, he brought a huge warship that he had never seen before, which made Matsudaira Huizhen feel more peaceful in his heart.
After scanning through a lot of conditions proposed by Liu Yu, he calculated in his heart where he could bargain one by one.
It's easy to say that it's easy to cut off the land of Ezo. It's a wild land, and the value is really not too great.
The feudal cities here and there have been breached by the Dashun Army, and most of the samurai were killed, wounded and captured, so there is actually no need to consider Fukuyama Castle's opinion.
And since paying tribute to the Celestial Dynasty, naturally there is no longer a need for a general who conquers barbarians, and the Celestial Court Government will solve this problem.
Yinqi Island is not big, only a few thousand stones high, and it is not considered a contested place.
Switch trade, as expected.
The only thing is the total compensation of 1000 million taels of silver, which is really too high.
After excluding the total of 1000 million taels of silver, the remaining conditions are not bad, which shows the sincerity of Dashun.
Thinking of the four words "bargaining" that Tokugawa Yoshimune urged, Matsudaira Huizhen said: "Your country's demand for compensation of 1000 million taels of silver is really too much."
However, Liu Yu's answer was simple and crisp.
"I'm here to raise conditions, not to negotiate conditions."
"Or, accept."
"Or, continue to fight."
"Are you able to make decisions on behalf of the shogunate? If yes, I need to get an answer within ten days. If not, it shows that the shogunate is not sincere, so there is no need to talk. Let's go to war."
"The details and specific measures are negotiable. In general, I am a straightforward person, and I am too lazy to bargain."
(End of this chapter)
This time, to show his trust, Li Gan handed Liu Yu the Japanese letter asking for peace after making a joke.
Liu Yu asserted before that after the Battle of Hagi, the Japanese needed peace talks.
After explaining clearly the constraints and contradictions between the Japanese regime and the shogunate daimyo, it was easy for the emperor to understand.
Being an emperor is a good hand in doing this kind of thing.If you think about it a little bit, you can know what the Tokugawa shogunate is up to.
But just to be on the safe side, the emperor still asked.
"How? Is it true desire for peace? Or is it a tactic to delay the attack?"
Liu Yu listened to the words "strategy to slow down the army", and thought to himself, "Have a hammer?"
Give the Tokugawa shogunate half a year, even if he has everything in place, he will not be able to build a navy.
This thing can't be built with just a few pieces of wood, and whether it can control the sail is also a problem.
In terms of land warfare, the only ones in East Asia who can make their own flintlock guns are the Dashun family.
If you want to buy from Westerners, even if Japan really has mountains of gold and silver, it will take a year or two before the news gets to Amsterdam and shipped back.
After the Dutch saw that Dashun had gathered [-] troops in Xiaobin, they were immediately persuaded: The Netherlands looked down on Dashun's broken ships, and also looked down on Dashun's navy with no actual combat experience, but the Dutch really It is impossible to assemble a force of about [-] troops in East Asia to carry out large-scale operations.
Spain has already gone to war with the United Kingdom because of Jenkins' ears, and Luzon is too busy to take care of himself at this time.Portugal is even more afraid to speak out because of Macau.
Japan has no allies that can be drawn. It is useless to rely on tens of thousands of 10,000+ warriors and a few broken ships of less than [-] stone.
"Returning to Your Majesty, I think the Japanese people really want to talk about it this time. I have already discussed this matter before. There is really no need to talk about the peace talks with the Japanese country."
"It's just... from ancient times to the present, the affairs of the celestial dynasty have always been based on history. It is nothing more than because the celestial dynasty has been strong and prosperous, and dynasties have risen and fallen. Taking history as a mirror, the gains and losses of dynasties can always be based on."
"However, the Japanese were attacked today, and the navy defeated the enemy. With the speed of our troop movement, the Japanese were passive everywhere. Please also record it as history for future reference."
"The matter of the navy must not stop."
Speaking of the navy again, although it has been said more than once, the meaning of saying it now is quite different from what it said before.
Now, Liu Yu can be described as "absolutely selfless".
Because not only the military power has been handed over, but after the establishment of the Ministry of the Navy, it is impossible for Liu Yu to intervene in the construction of the navy.
Speaking of these words at this time, it sounded like a remonstrance before retiring, and the meaning of the sounds moved the emperor a little bit.
Liu Yu was relieved, and said that this matter should be written on the screen, and after thinking about it as a hindsight, it was time to talk about peace talks.
Regarding the peace talks, no matter when the Japanese insisted on talking with Liu Yu, the DPRK and China decided to let Liu Yu preside over the negotiations.
This time the Japanese sent a letter for peace talks, but it was just a formality and a formal appointment.
"Since His Majesty entrusts ministers with heavy responsibilities, he will definitely live up to His Majesty's entrustment. But, dare to ask Your Majesty, what is the bottom line?"
The Emperor held out two fingers.
"My bottom line is nothing more than two points."
"One, paying tribute."
"Secondly, the Satsuma clan must apologize."
"Beyond the bottom line, Chaozhong has always known your ability, so you just look at it."
"It's just that Aiqing insists on carrying the power of great victory and going to Maguan to show off his power. Be careful of Japanese 'righteous men' assassinating."
"I think it's better to talk in Busan if we want to talk. When it's time to sign the contract, if Aiqing has to go to Maguan to make a splash, then there's nothing wrong with going to Maguan."
"As for the details of the negotiations with the Wa Kingdom, people from the courteous government will wait for him in the capital. Aiqing only needs to talk about some practical matters. I think I started thinking about today's affairs ten years ago. I can rest assured that you will handle the matter."
The emperor was really worried about Liu Yu's safety. Although he couldn't fully understand why Liu Yu had to go to Maguan to sign the contract, it was not incomprehensible from the perspective of this moment.
It is nothing more than the bragging of the victor.
Thinking that Liu Yu may have been thinking about this matter ten years ago, a dream in ten years, and now the dream has finally come true, how can he not be excited?
It is understandable to go to the land of the Japanese to show off their might.
He was not afraid that Liu Yu would do what happened to Li Zongcheng in the Wanli period of the previous dynasty. Unlike Li Zongcheng who attacked the noble because of his father's shadow, Liu Yu was the Earl himself. Not to mention going to Maguan, he just ran to Jiang Even dare to go.
It was just because of this that he worried that Liu Yu was oppressing too hard, so that those in Japan who felt humiliated were not allowed to engage in assassination or the like.
Thinking about it in another way, if Dashun was forced to surrender in peace talks, but the enemy deliberately came to places like Tianjin and Songjiang to show off their power, how could there be a few bloody people who would stand up.
Liu Yu wasn't worried, he thought he was going to Maguan anyway.
This time the emperor did not arrange another person from the Li government to be a deputy envoy, but Zhao Baiquan who was still in Busan to assist, but not a deputy envoy.
Because in this negotiation, one thing is quite embarrassing.
The so-called king does not rule barbarians and di, whoever comes does not refuse, and whoever goes does not pursue.Paying tribute and claiming vassal status is usually done on the initiative of others, and I have never heard of anyone forcing others to pay tribute.
Even if we talked with Japan, and after talking about paying tribute, Japan had to take the initiative to send people to the capital.
Please submit the form and seal it up, and then the government of Dashun will come forward to accept it, and according to the manpower of Japan, seal all the important ones as officials.
Not allowing people from the Li government to intervene at all, this also shows that the emperor wanted to hit Japan hard, probably because he had tasted the sweetness of going to war to make money, and there were rumors that Japan had a lot of gold and silver, so he must be tempted.
As for others, occupying Japan, enforcing Japan, disintegrating Japan, or retaining the shogunate, these four ideas have been debated more than once since the Battle of Hagi Castle Liu Yu asserted that Japan would take the initiative to negotiate peace.
In the end, the emperor made a decision and approved Liu Yu's idea of "retaining the shogunate system" as the keynote of the peace talks.
Now the full authority is given to Liu Yu to discuss, and the emperor doesn't think there should be any more instructions, so he just asks Liu Yu to go back and prepare, and set off for Busan as soon as possible.
Back at the Earl's Mansion, Wada Zhenyi lingered for the night, and on the second day, assigned homework to the orphan students who came to the capital from Weihai, and then set off for Tianjin.
Along the way, the emperor sent fifty guard cavalry to follow, and when they arrived at Busan, the navy and army would send out guards.
In Tianjin, a new French-style 74-gun battleship was already waiting there.
Before the arrival of French craftsmen last year, Weihai already had experience in building 64-gun battleships. It spent a lot of money to train a group of craftsmen to practice their hands, and produced an old ship that could only be nestled in the Bohai Sea and was not suitable for activities in East Asia. Slow battleship.
A large amount of wood has already been hoarded, and the arsenal has produced enough cannons for this planned battleship early on. It took more than half a year to finally build it, but it did not catch up with the opportunity to bombard Hagi Castle.
The first time he appeared on the stage, it was used as a deterrent force during negotiations.Two cruisers and four light-sailed clippers followed, formed a fleet, and arrived at Pusan along the route the navy had already taken very well.
At this time, Japan's convenient negotiating missions have also arrived, including the Japanese king here, whose level is sufficient.
The Japanese king represents the public, Lin Xinchong agrees with the cultural circle, and Matsudaira Huizhen represents the samurai family. In fact, it is Matsudaira Huizhen who actually presides over the negotiations.
Liu Yu went straight to the point and didn't talk nonsense, but gave the conditions he listed.
The king of Japan descended from the title of emperor and proclaimed himself king; the shogunate was not allowed to call himself a maharaja or king, and was instead canonized by the celestial dynasty to ensure that the shogunate remained hereditary.
Ceded Ezo, Oki Island, and Tsushima Island to Dashun.
Five ports were opened on Kyushu Island, Shikoku Island, and near Osaka and the Karatsu Strait.
Dashun proposed a tariff of 5.00% of the value of goods, which could be collected by the shogunate.However, after the tariff is collected, the goods sold in Japan shall not be subject to other taxes.
Dismantle the forts in the Xiaguan Strait, and never build forts on both sides of the Xiaguan Strait.
Return the northern islands of Ryukyu, and discard the "Fifteen Articles" signed in the past.
The lord of the Satsuma domain must go to Ryukyu to apologize in person and go to the Ryukyu ancestral temple to worship in person.
Since the Wanli period to the present, for more than a hundred years, the Satsuma domain has embezzled the Ryukyu tribute trade, equivalent to 1 taels per year, and compensated 200 million taels of Kuping silver in total with principal and interest.
Compensation for the treasures plundered in Ryukyu back then was worth 300 million taels. If they could pay tribute, they would all be vassals.
Compensation for Dashun Army's military expenses, battle damage, pensions, logistics, etc., totaling 500 million taels.
Trade with the Netherlands is abolished, and no trade with countries outside the Celestial Dynasty system is allowed without the permission of Dashun.
Trade with North Korea is abolished, and no trade with countries within the Celestial Dynasty system is allowed without the permission of Dashun.
Merchants shall not be prevented from trading at ports of entry.
Contributed to the "History of Japan", and the imperial court government deleted the presumptuous words in it.
The King of Japan and the shogunate succeeded hereditary, and the imperial conferment was performed by the Celestial Dynasty...
There are more than [-] conditions in total. The Celestial Dynasty has only rights and no obligations, but some obligations are needless to say.
After joining the tributary system, the Celestial Dynasty is naturally obliged to protect it from threats from forces outside the Celestial Dynasty. The vassal's participation in the Celestial Dynasty system itself is a right.
Matsudaira Huizhen also knew the bottom line of the shogunate. After seeing these conditions, her heart was actually very peaceful.
It was very peaceful at first, but after the defeat, they were helpless and could only let Dashun raise conditions.
Now that Liu Yu came, he brought a huge warship that he had never seen before, which made Matsudaira Huizhen feel more peaceful in his heart.
After scanning through a lot of conditions proposed by Liu Yu, he calculated in his heart where he could bargain one by one.
It's easy to say that it's easy to cut off the land of Ezo. It's a wild land, and the value is really not too great.
The feudal cities here and there have been breached by the Dashun Army, and most of the samurai were killed, wounded and captured, so there is actually no need to consider Fukuyama Castle's opinion.
And since paying tribute to the Celestial Dynasty, naturally there is no longer a need for a general who conquers barbarians, and the Celestial Court Government will solve this problem.
Yinqi Island is not big, only a few thousand stones high, and it is not considered a contested place.
Switch trade, as expected.
The only thing is the total compensation of 1000 million taels of silver, which is really too high.
After excluding the total of 1000 million taels of silver, the remaining conditions are not bad, which shows the sincerity of Dashun.
Thinking of the four words "bargaining" that Tokugawa Yoshimune urged, Matsudaira Huizhen said: "Your country's demand for compensation of 1000 million taels of silver is really too much."
However, Liu Yu's answer was simple and crisp.
"I'm here to raise conditions, not to negotiate conditions."
"Or, accept."
"Or, continue to fight."
"Are you able to make decisions on behalf of the shogunate? If yes, I need to get an answer within ten days. If not, it shows that the shogunate is not sincere, so there is no need to talk. Let's go to war."
"The details and specific measures are negotiable. In general, I am a straightforward person, and I am too lazy to bargain."
(End of this chapter)
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