Xinshun 1730
Chapter 469
Chapter 469
The wishful thinking was sound, but it really hit Dashun's fatal spot.
If you want to wear its crown, you must bear its weight.Even cats, dogs, tigers and leopards know that when a leader is invaded by foreign enemies, he must stand up and drive them away, let alone people?
If you want to continue the dynasty in this era when the world has become bigger, you have to be prepared for a full-scale conflict with forces outside the world.
Holding this fatal spot, and it seems that "the world has changed" is Japan's only chance, Tokugawa Yoshimune made two-handed preparations.
While dealing with the Dutch, let Aoki Kunyang and other Confucian scholars continue to learn Dutch, compile Dutch and Japanese translation manuals as soon as possible, lay the foundation for future cooperation with the Netherlands, and at the same time express their attitude towards the Dutch.
At the same time, they asked people to dig out the "Western Chronicles" and "Cailan Yiyan" written by Arai Shiraishi, and prepared to publish them on a large scale. They must do a good job of changing public opinion by separating "technology" and "culture".
Arai Shiraishi completely denies Western morality, culture, and religion, but at the same time approves technology that is stripped of moral and cultural attributes and is universally applicable.
The Japanese have always regarded themselves very highly. Even after the Baijiangkou Water War, when the Xiongjin Governor's Office of the Tang Dynasty sent people to Japan, Japan was still called the Emperor.
In the past, it was the plan to "call the East and the West their own", playing with the small tributary system by themselves, and always attaching great importance to the "debate between Hua and Barbarians".In the "Dabao Order" in the early years, it was clearly stated that the internal edicts also use the title of the emperor; when there is a "distinction between Hua and Yi", one must call himself the emperor.
Now being slapped by Zhen Tianchao, it can be regarded as completely throwing away the burden and fantasy of "Sunrise Emperor". place.
Under the effect of the broken window, the emperor was captured, so what else can't be changed?
Arai Shiraishi's practice of "denying morality, culture and morality, and recognition of skills" and Dashun's practice of "dividing Western learning into practice" are almost in the footsteps.
It's just that Japan's lock-up is much more serious than that of Dashun, and the Dutch have been trying to monopolize the trade with Japan and prevent Western countries from intervening. Up to now, there is not even a Confucian scholar who really understands Dutch writing skills in China.
Dashun has never banned religion before, and since the founding of the country, the marginalized people have practiced learning from good families, making it seem like the upper echelon has awareness at the top, but the basic gap has widened too much.
Dashun can randomly find a bunch of young people who have learned geometry from Liangjiazi, while Xu Guangqi's books were not banned in Japan until a few years ago because Xu Guangqi is a religious believer.
Tokugawa Yoshimune naturally couldn't see the accumulation of wealth accumulated by Dashun over the past hundred years since the founding of the country.
I just feel that learning Nanban technology seems to be quite easy. At least learning firearms is just a matter of buying guns and cannons and imitating them later.
But he has a psychological shadow on Liu Yu. Even though Liu Yu generously stated that he could sell guns and even battleships to the shogunate, Tokugawa Yoshimune believed that there must be a countermeasure.
He told the Dutch that the Tang people should not be monopolized. Although he was fooling the Dutch in order to catch the greed of the Dutch, it was also from his heart.
When Dashun's first actual combat capital ship approached Osaka a few days later, Tokugawa Yoshimune looked at the huge ship body and the gun bay deck as high as a building, and became more determined to introduce "Lan Xue", a division of culture, morality and technology idea.
With Japanese craftsmen working behind closed doors, no such battleship could be built anyway.The group of craftsmen who were able to make Galen for Masamune Date died long ago.
He knew that the Dutch should have such warships, but he deliberately asked someone to ask the director of the Dutch business house who followed him.
"The warships of the Tang people are so powerful that they cannot be defeated. Does the Netherlands have such powerful warships?"
The director of the Dutch business house was a little disdainful, but he still replied respectfully: "Your Highness, 60 years ago, the seven provinces of our country were bigger than this one and had more guns. The general should know that 60 years ago, We still use matchlocks, but now it's all flints."
The director of the Dutch business house wanted to quietly instill in Tokugawa Yoshimune an idea that the outside world is changing, and it may be turned upside down in 60 years.
However, Japan has not changed in the past 60 years. If the samurai 60 years ago are resurrected now, whether they are soldiers or living, they will find that the life of their grandson is just a repetition of the life of their grandparents.
Tokugawa Yoshimune asked again: "Can Japan build such a warship?"
The Dutch curator was overjoyed. The Dutch have neither technology nor talent, but money.The provinces are doing their own thing, and now there is not even a joint governor. As long as Japan is willing to pay, the Dutch are of course willing to help.
The Dashun warship floating off the coast of Osaka also made the Dutch feel a great pressure.
Although it is still uncertain whether Dashun's future strategic direction will be north or south, the Dutch are very happy to build a country that can restrain Dashun's energy.After all, having been a world power for a short time and having engaged in colonial policies for so many years, I still have some vision.
Anyway, the Japanese pay, and the Dutch have the impression that Japan has gold and silver.
"His Royal Highness, since the Chinese can build it, why can't your country build it? If you need it, the East India Company is happy to help."
"The Netherlands supports Japan's own new army and warships, which are the basis for a country to gain a foothold in the world."
Although they didn't help Japan this time, previous experience told the Dutch that helping Japan has a lot of benefits.Just like the Shimabara Catholic Uprising, the Dutch sent warships to support the suppression, and obtained the monopoly position of Europe's trade with Japan in the future, and this position allowed Batavia, which was extremely tight in cash flow, to barely support it.
As for Dashun's attitude, the director of the shop here has not received the news of the negotiation between China and the Netherlands, so he can only use his keen sense of smell to make a decision.
After all, this kind of thing is not spending money to buy things, nor is it spending money to give gifts. It does not require the review of the East India Company and the troublesome report review.
Let’s talk about the possibility first. The initiative to help or not to help in the future is on the Dutch side; and if you refuse directly at the beginning, you will have no chance to support Japan in the future.
If competition and disputes between China and Japan can be maintained, at least Dashun can be assured that it will not have the energy to go to Nanyang.The number of Chinese in various parts of Nanyang has already made the Dutch quite worried.
Since the Dutch do not want to have the guts to go to war with Dashun, they can only choose to support a containment, which is in the interests of the Netherlands: spending the least amount of money to achieve strategic goals is an established way of thinking for the Netherlands as a commercial country .
The Dutch were looking forward to Tokugawa Yoshimune's answer, but Tokugawa Yoshimune just asked this sentence. After getting the answer, he didn't continue to ask further questions, but looked into the distance.
Many people in Osaka flocked to the beach to see the army that had frightened Osaka into panic a while ago.Compared with distant overseas countries, China is the country that the people of Osaka are most familiar with, even if the country is vague.
It's just that this kind of big ship, which is completely different from the Japanese merchants and navy, makes the people of Osaka a little dizzy.
The China they imagined should be similar to their daily life, but seeing this fleet now does not produce any sense of familiarity, on the contrary, it shatters the image of China they imagined in their hearts.
After the lock, there have been no foreign ships in Osaka.However, the foreign ship that came to Osaka for the first time had this strange feeling as if a person saw an orangutan. I could know that it was a ship, but I really didn't expect the captain to look like this.
A chaotic crowd gathered, and some engineers in civilian clothes disembarked from a boat docked in the distance.They didn't wear military uniforms, and they didn't carry weapons. They had all the benefits they wanted, and there was no need to slap them in the face at this time.
Maritime merchants also inspected the port, determined the location of the future port opening, and the leased land, and determined the rent of Shigao on an annual basis in the future.
Tokugawa Yoshimune, watching all this silently from afar, asked the Dutchman one last question, not so much a question as a bait and a lure on display.
"Hyogojin opened a port for trade, and other places also opened ports. How did the Tang people choose these places? Is it a place suitable for trade?"
The Dutch thought that the Chinese had achieved what the Dutch dreamed of but never had the chance to do. These locations were places where the Dutch had always wanted to trade.
It's just that the Dutch are also very contradictory now.
Don't say bad things about Dashun, I feel uncomfortable.
Even if Japan agrees that the Dutch can do business in these five ports in the future, there must be a competitive relationship between China and the Netherlands.
Although the Dutch always thought that Dashun was stupid, they allowed the Dutch to resell Dashun's raw silk and buy it in Japan. They could monopolize the trade with Japan with a little control, but they didn't care at all.
But I guess I can't stay stupid forever. It seems that I have woken up now, and there will definitely be competition in the future.
But it's not good to say bad things about Dashun.
No matter how the process is, the result is that Japan has opened a port after all.
You can't be schizophrenic, thinking about expanding trade while opening ports, and talking about the disadvantages of opening trade at the same time.
No matter what, I can't find a plausible reason: Dutch trade, good!China trade, bad!
No matter in terms of cultural closeness, anti-religion attitude, perception of the Chinese people, and compatibility of goods and commodities, the Dutch can’t find a reason why opening a port for trade is good, but trade with China is not good.
After pondering for a while, the Dutch had no choice but to move out the "ancestral teachings".
"His Royal Highness, when Ieyasu was the general, both our country and the British had established trading houses in Hirado. Under the Hirado trading house, there are four major branches."
"Osaka Branch, Edo Branch, Tsushima Branch, and Nagasaki Branch."
"Ieyasu even allowed us to open agency stores in Kyoto, Fushimi, and Otsu; and Suruga, Uraga, and Misaki in Edo."
"When I arrived at Mr. Hidechu, it was strictly ordered that we could only trade in Hirado, and closed the branches everywhere. At that time, we also hoped to entrust Mr. Matsuura Takanobu of Hirado, and hoped that the merchants in Hirado would help take the goods to other places. But because Lord Matsuura Takanobu respects the shogunate's decree and strictly prohibits it."
"Now it seems that the Chinese just want normal trade, and they also respect the shogunate, and the location they chose is very suitable for trade. They also did not choose to open ports in places such as Uraga near Edo."
"This kind of trade is beneficial to Japan. If China also closed itself like the previous Ming Empire, how could it build such warships?"
"Your Highness the General hates Catholicism. We Dutch are not Catholics, and the Chinese are banning Christianity. I think His Highness the General can be absolutely at ease on the issue of banning Christianity. If Spanish missionaries want to approach after the opening of the port, we The Dutch state can guarantee that the Spanish ship will definitely be sunk."
"The Hirayama Changchen incident and the Shimabara suppression of the rebellion have proved that we Dutch people are absolutely anti-Catholic."
"Our country has always respected the various laws and regulations of the shogunate. Since the last time we were reprimanded for using the AD calendar, our business houses have used your country's year name to count the year. We have never smuggled any missionaries, and your country's own Businessmen often secretly carry missionaries."
"His Royal Highness, please consider our request. We will not propose the terms of lease as rudely as China, but we just hope that we can sell goods at the opening of the port like them."
After weighing the matter, the Dutch did not slander Dashun in this matter. After all, considering that there is still a glimmer of hope for equal benefits, at this time, the opening of ports cannot be said to be a bad thing, but only a good thing.
And at this time, Ieyasu Tokugawa, who had already turned into ashes, was moved out, saying that they could go to Edo and Osaka to open branches when Tokugawa Ieyasu was in power.Since the Orientals respected their ancestors and moved out of Tokugawa Ieyasu, they just wanted to say that the policy of opening shops everywhere was right at that time, and the policy after that was wrong.
(End of this chapter)
The wishful thinking was sound, but it really hit Dashun's fatal spot.
If you want to wear its crown, you must bear its weight.Even cats, dogs, tigers and leopards know that when a leader is invaded by foreign enemies, he must stand up and drive them away, let alone people?
If you want to continue the dynasty in this era when the world has become bigger, you have to be prepared for a full-scale conflict with forces outside the world.
Holding this fatal spot, and it seems that "the world has changed" is Japan's only chance, Tokugawa Yoshimune made two-handed preparations.
While dealing with the Dutch, let Aoki Kunyang and other Confucian scholars continue to learn Dutch, compile Dutch and Japanese translation manuals as soon as possible, lay the foundation for future cooperation with the Netherlands, and at the same time express their attitude towards the Dutch.
At the same time, they asked people to dig out the "Western Chronicles" and "Cailan Yiyan" written by Arai Shiraishi, and prepared to publish them on a large scale. They must do a good job of changing public opinion by separating "technology" and "culture".
Arai Shiraishi completely denies Western morality, culture, and religion, but at the same time approves technology that is stripped of moral and cultural attributes and is universally applicable.
The Japanese have always regarded themselves very highly. Even after the Baijiangkou Water War, when the Xiongjin Governor's Office of the Tang Dynasty sent people to Japan, Japan was still called the Emperor.
In the past, it was the plan to "call the East and the West their own", playing with the small tributary system by themselves, and always attaching great importance to the "debate between Hua and Barbarians".In the "Dabao Order" in the early years, it was clearly stated that the internal edicts also use the title of the emperor; when there is a "distinction between Hua and Yi", one must call himself the emperor.
Now being slapped by Zhen Tianchao, it can be regarded as completely throwing away the burden and fantasy of "Sunrise Emperor". place.
Under the effect of the broken window, the emperor was captured, so what else can't be changed?
Arai Shiraishi's practice of "denying morality, culture and morality, and recognition of skills" and Dashun's practice of "dividing Western learning into practice" are almost in the footsteps.
It's just that Japan's lock-up is much more serious than that of Dashun, and the Dutch have been trying to monopolize the trade with Japan and prevent Western countries from intervening. Up to now, there is not even a Confucian scholar who really understands Dutch writing skills in China.
Dashun has never banned religion before, and since the founding of the country, the marginalized people have practiced learning from good families, making it seem like the upper echelon has awareness at the top, but the basic gap has widened too much.
Dashun can randomly find a bunch of young people who have learned geometry from Liangjiazi, while Xu Guangqi's books were not banned in Japan until a few years ago because Xu Guangqi is a religious believer.
Tokugawa Yoshimune naturally couldn't see the accumulation of wealth accumulated by Dashun over the past hundred years since the founding of the country.
I just feel that learning Nanban technology seems to be quite easy. At least learning firearms is just a matter of buying guns and cannons and imitating them later.
But he has a psychological shadow on Liu Yu. Even though Liu Yu generously stated that he could sell guns and even battleships to the shogunate, Tokugawa Yoshimune believed that there must be a countermeasure.
He told the Dutch that the Tang people should not be monopolized. Although he was fooling the Dutch in order to catch the greed of the Dutch, it was also from his heart.
When Dashun's first actual combat capital ship approached Osaka a few days later, Tokugawa Yoshimune looked at the huge ship body and the gun bay deck as high as a building, and became more determined to introduce "Lan Xue", a division of culture, morality and technology idea.
With Japanese craftsmen working behind closed doors, no such battleship could be built anyway.The group of craftsmen who were able to make Galen for Masamune Date died long ago.
He knew that the Dutch should have such warships, but he deliberately asked someone to ask the director of the Dutch business house who followed him.
"The warships of the Tang people are so powerful that they cannot be defeated. Does the Netherlands have such powerful warships?"
The director of the Dutch business house was a little disdainful, but he still replied respectfully: "Your Highness, 60 years ago, the seven provinces of our country were bigger than this one and had more guns. The general should know that 60 years ago, We still use matchlocks, but now it's all flints."
The director of the Dutch business house wanted to quietly instill in Tokugawa Yoshimune an idea that the outside world is changing, and it may be turned upside down in 60 years.
However, Japan has not changed in the past 60 years. If the samurai 60 years ago are resurrected now, whether they are soldiers or living, they will find that the life of their grandson is just a repetition of the life of their grandparents.
Tokugawa Yoshimune asked again: "Can Japan build such a warship?"
The Dutch curator was overjoyed. The Dutch have neither technology nor talent, but money.The provinces are doing their own thing, and now there is not even a joint governor. As long as Japan is willing to pay, the Dutch are of course willing to help.
The Dashun warship floating off the coast of Osaka also made the Dutch feel a great pressure.
Although it is still uncertain whether Dashun's future strategic direction will be north or south, the Dutch are very happy to build a country that can restrain Dashun's energy.After all, having been a world power for a short time and having engaged in colonial policies for so many years, I still have some vision.
Anyway, the Japanese pay, and the Dutch have the impression that Japan has gold and silver.
"His Royal Highness, since the Chinese can build it, why can't your country build it? If you need it, the East India Company is happy to help."
"The Netherlands supports Japan's own new army and warships, which are the basis for a country to gain a foothold in the world."
Although they didn't help Japan this time, previous experience told the Dutch that helping Japan has a lot of benefits.Just like the Shimabara Catholic Uprising, the Dutch sent warships to support the suppression, and obtained the monopoly position of Europe's trade with Japan in the future, and this position allowed Batavia, which was extremely tight in cash flow, to barely support it.
As for Dashun's attitude, the director of the shop here has not received the news of the negotiation between China and the Netherlands, so he can only use his keen sense of smell to make a decision.
After all, this kind of thing is not spending money to buy things, nor is it spending money to give gifts. It does not require the review of the East India Company and the troublesome report review.
Let’s talk about the possibility first. The initiative to help or not to help in the future is on the Dutch side; and if you refuse directly at the beginning, you will have no chance to support Japan in the future.
If competition and disputes between China and Japan can be maintained, at least Dashun can be assured that it will not have the energy to go to Nanyang.The number of Chinese in various parts of Nanyang has already made the Dutch quite worried.
Since the Dutch do not want to have the guts to go to war with Dashun, they can only choose to support a containment, which is in the interests of the Netherlands: spending the least amount of money to achieve strategic goals is an established way of thinking for the Netherlands as a commercial country .
The Dutch were looking forward to Tokugawa Yoshimune's answer, but Tokugawa Yoshimune just asked this sentence. After getting the answer, he didn't continue to ask further questions, but looked into the distance.
Many people in Osaka flocked to the beach to see the army that had frightened Osaka into panic a while ago.Compared with distant overseas countries, China is the country that the people of Osaka are most familiar with, even if the country is vague.
It's just that this kind of big ship, which is completely different from the Japanese merchants and navy, makes the people of Osaka a little dizzy.
The China they imagined should be similar to their daily life, but seeing this fleet now does not produce any sense of familiarity, on the contrary, it shatters the image of China they imagined in their hearts.
After the lock, there have been no foreign ships in Osaka.However, the foreign ship that came to Osaka for the first time had this strange feeling as if a person saw an orangutan. I could know that it was a ship, but I really didn't expect the captain to look like this.
A chaotic crowd gathered, and some engineers in civilian clothes disembarked from a boat docked in the distance.They didn't wear military uniforms, and they didn't carry weapons. They had all the benefits they wanted, and there was no need to slap them in the face at this time.
Maritime merchants also inspected the port, determined the location of the future port opening, and the leased land, and determined the rent of Shigao on an annual basis in the future.
Tokugawa Yoshimune, watching all this silently from afar, asked the Dutchman one last question, not so much a question as a bait and a lure on display.
"Hyogojin opened a port for trade, and other places also opened ports. How did the Tang people choose these places? Is it a place suitable for trade?"
The Dutch thought that the Chinese had achieved what the Dutch dreamed of but never had the chance to do. These locations were places where the Dutch had always wanted to trade.
It's just that the Dutch are also very contradictory now.
Don't say bad things about Dashun, I feel uncomfortable.
Even if Japan agrees that the Dutch can do business in these five ports in the future, there must be a competitive relationship between China and the Netherlands.
Although the Dutch always thought that Dashun was stupid, they allowed the Dutch to resell Dashun's raw silk and buy it in Japan. They could monopolize the trade with Japan with a little control, but they didn't care at all.
But I guess I can't stay stupid forever. It seems that I have woken up now, and there will definitely be competition in the future.
But it's not good to say bad things about Dashun.
No matter how the process is, the result is that Japan has opened a port after all.
You can't be schizophrenic, thinking about expanding trade while opening ports, and talking about the disadvantages of opening trade at the same time.
No matter what, I can't find a plausible reason: Dutch trade, good!China trade, bad!
No matter in terms of cultural closeness, anti-religion attitude, perception of the Chinese people, and compatibility of goods and commodities, the Dutch can’t find a reason why opening a port for trade is good, but trade with China is not good.
After pondering for a while, the Dutch had no choice but to move out the "ancestral teachings".
"His Royal Highness, when Ieyasu was the general, both our country and the British had established trading houses in Hirado. Under the Hirado trading house, there are four major branches."
"Osaka Branch, Edo Branch, Tsushima Branch, and Nagasaki Branch."
"Ieyasu even allowed us to open agency stores in Kyoto, Fushimi, and Otsu; and Suruga, Uraga, and Misaki in Edo."
"When I arrived at Mr. Hidechu, it was strictly ordered that we could only trade in Hirado, and closed the branches everywhere. At that time, we also hoped to entrust Mr. Matsuura Takanobu of Hirado, and hoped that the merchants in Hirado would help take the goods to other places. But because Lord Matsuura Takanobu respects the shogunate's decree and strictly prohibits it."
"Now it seems that the Chinese just want normal trade, and they also respect the shogunate, and the location they chose is very suitable for trade. They also did not choose to open ports in places such as Uraga near Edo."
"This kind of trade is beneficial to Japan. If China also closed itself like the previous Ming Empire, how could it build such warships?"
"Your Highness the General hates Catholicism. We Dutch are not Catholics, and the Chinese are banning Christianity. I think His Highness the General can be absolutely at ease on the issue of banning Christianity. If Spanish missionaries want to approach after the opening of the port, we The Dutch state can guarantee that the Spanish ship will definitely be sunk."
"The Hirayama Changchen incident and the Shimabara suppression of the rebellion have proved that we Dutch people are absolutely anti-Catholic."
"Our country has always respected the various laws and regulations of the shogunate. Since the last time we were reprimanded for using the AD calendar, our business houses have used your country's year name to count the year. We have never smuggled any missionaries, and your country's own Businessmen often secretly carry missionaries."
"His Royal Highness, please consider our request. We will not propose the terms of lease as rudely as China, but we just hope that we can sell goods at the opening of the port like them."
After weighing the matter, the Dutch did not slander Dashun in this matter. After all, considering that there is still a glimmer of hope for equal benefits, at this time, the opening of ports cannot be said to be a bad thing, but only a good thing.
And at this time, Ieyasu Tokugawa, who had already turned into ashes, was moved out, saying that they could go to Edo and Osaka to open branches when Tokugawa Ieyasu was in power.Since the Orientals respected their ancestors and moved out of Tokugawa Ieyasu, they just wanted to say that the policy of opening shops everywhere was right at that time, and the policy after that was wrong.
(End of this chapter)
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