Xinshun 1730
Chapter 474
Chapter 474
These words completely shattered Tokugawa Yoshimune's last hope. The words fell into his ears, his blood surged, and his eyes turned black.
It took a long time before the darkness in front of him dissipated, and his mind was in a trance.
Steady his mind, he didn't want Liu Yu to see it, so he had to write: "I thought it was Mr. Liu who wanted to raise Kou's self-respect."
Liu Yu patted his forehead, smiled and shook his head.
"Keeping up the pirates is a threat. General, general, I will give you 30 years. Can you make up a fleet that threatens Weihai? After 30 years, I may be buried in the ground. Is there anyone who raises pirates like this?" ?”
"Rather than raising the bandits' self-respect, it is better to say that Guangyuan raised Ruozi. I want a qualified shogun. As for who will be the shogun, that doesn't matter."
"General, think carefully about what I said. If you have figured it out, let's talk about how Dashun will protect the stability of the shogunate after the tribute."
He finally used an allusion made in Japan, and I don't know if Tokugawa Yoshimune has read this novel.In this era, women are similar to objects, and their husbands are the key link, which also fits an analogy under the tribute.
Tokugawa Yoshimune felt a little unhappy and felt a little humiliated by this metaphor, but Liu Yu's previous words had already plunged him into a kind of despair.
A few months ago, as the shogun, he was still shouting slogans: Even if a new king is established, the shogunate banner is wiped out, the shogunate falls, and he dies in battle, he will never negotiate peace!
But now, facing Liu Yu's humiliating metaphor, his heart has already begun to waver.
During the long entanglement, considering the various impossibilities of Liu Yu's Japanese revenge plan, even if he was reluctant, he had to admit that Liu Yu was right.
In Japan, it seems that there is really no chance.
After probing for a long time, I didn't find out Dashun's future strategy, whether it still has the heart to continue to develop.
On the contrary, I feel that, according to what Liu Yu said, Dashun also needs to have a purpose when going to war.
It seems that apart from being the emperor of the world and the king of the world, it seems that according to Liu Yu, there seems to be no need to go to war against the Nanman.
Even Japan can make a pattern of letting the Dutch go to Edo to pay tribute. If the Celestial Dynasty is only for paying tribute, it only needs the Ministry of Rites and officials to tamper with the credential, and the tribute will be completed.
Could it be that this is the end?
After a long silence, Tokugawa Yoshimune finally let go of his last bit of face. Face is only valuable if a third party is present. Now there are only two people here, and the person delivering the documents is illiterate, so there is no face to consider.
"The Celestial Dynasty, what kind of shogunate do you want?"
He really put down his face and asked Dashun's purpose just like what Liu Yu said about Guangyuan's plan.
Maybe listen.
Maybe follow suit.
Or maybe they can understand some truths from these requirements, or guess the purpose of Dashun.
Liu Yu saw that Tokugawa Yoshimune finally bowed his head on the surface, and he didn't provoke Tokugawa Yoshimune any more. Originally, what he wanted to say was "a shogunate like the general is exactly what the Celestial Dynasty wants. As long as the general abolishes the thrift order and does not interfere It can be traded in any currency.”
But to say that, it's a bit too humiliating, like saying that Tokugawa Yoshimune is no threat in Dashun's eyes.
To be honest, Liu Yu really didn't have many demands on the shogunate.Too difficult a policy, the shogunate can't do it at all.
Anyway, the current situation in Japan is quite suitable for trade. There is no problem of land reform in Japan. One person has one crop, trading is prohibited, and renting begins to be suppressed as soon as there is a sign.But the samurai class in Japan sucked so much blood that the common people had no spending power at all.
It also happens that the industrial revolution in Dashun has not yet started, and the main thing is to sell luxury goods... such as glass, which is not a daily necessities at this time, but a luxury.
Japan is too close, and poor enough, it is not a suitable market after the industrial revolution, but it is a perfect pre-industrial revolution era, the main consumer perfectly fits the Dashun handicraft industry's superior export market.
Samurai sucking blood is actually a good thing for Dashun.There is only so much ration of blood, and if it is divided evenly, the luxury goods market will shrink.
"The general don't need to rush to ask what kind of shogunate the Celestial Dynasty wants, you should first listen to the conditions given by the Celestial Dynasty."
"If the shogunate can follow suit, the Celestial Dynasty promises that it will not sell weapons to the vassals, nor will it directly trade with the vassals."
"The Celestial Dynasty will not interfere with the canonization of the shogun. It would be best if the eldest son inheritance system can be implemented. If not, the Chinese government will also use the reason that 'the shogun is not a king, and the selection of the virtuous is not the election of the leader'. It will not be like North Korea. That's how you pay close attention to patriarchal etiquette."
"If someone falls, China will send troops to support it. The scale must be higher than that of the Dutch in the Shimabara Rebellion. They can even send troops to suppress it."
"The Celestial Dynasty guarantees the hereditary succession of the shoguns, and bestows on the princes of the county."
"If Japan is invaded by the Southern Barbarians, the Celestial Dynasty will definitely send troops."
"The Celestial Dynasty will not accept any Japanese who go to the Celestial Dynasty privately. Once discovered, they will be captured immediately and sent to the shogunate for disposal."
"A batch of firearms from the shogunate can be sold appropriately."
"When the shogunate is in financial difficulty, the Chinese merchants can borrow money from the shogunate, with an annual interest rate of only 15.00%, and the tariff can be used as collateral."
"If a tragedy like the Xiangbao famine occurs again, the Celestial Dynasty can mobilize a batch of food for rescue and help the shogunate stabilize the situation..."
Some conditions that could not be clearly written in the treaty were stated by Liu Yu one by one.
The signing of a treaty is a matter between two countries, with the sovereign as the signer.And these conditions are private conditions with the Tokugawa clan, not the official department of the shogunate at all.
After seeing it, Tokugawa Yoshimune directly asked a very important question.
"What if one day, public opinion boils over and demands the reduction of feudal vassals, return to government, and integration of public and military forces?"
Liu Yu thought in his heart that you can cooperate as much as you like. What I care about is your economic system, not whether it is unified in name.
As long as the separation of peasants and soldiers remains, as long as the land is still feudal, you can do whatever you like.
The shogunate can't accomplish anything, and there is no reform that takes the initiative to change itself to death.
"How does the general want to cut down the domain? What about the samurai of each domain? The general should know the situation of Tosa, right? The Yamauchi clan has taken over the magpie's nest, and the old department of Nagamune's family has been dissatisfied. They have a bunch of genealogical daimyos and pro-vassal daimyos to replace them." ?”
"Or is it going to follow the example of Shang Yang, abolishing well fields, abolishing warriors, abolishing vassals and setting up counties? If this is the case, then there is another way to say it."
"If the general is impatient, I think the government of Li just waits to turn over "Posthumous Fa Jie"."
"But it's not impossible if you don't get impatient."
This answer was really beyond Tokugawa Yoshimune's expectation. He just wanted to test it out, but seeing what Liu Yu meant, not only did he not object, but he seemed to support it.
This made Tokugawa Yoshimune suddenly alert, but whoever Liu Yu supported, probably had something hidden.
What's more, the things that Liu Yu supports can often come up with feasible solutions.
While alert, Tokugawa Yoshimune still asked, if he really wanted to follow the example of Shang Yang, what should he do by abolishing well fields, abolishing samurai, abolishing vassals and setting up counties.
"The art of stratagem is nothing more than balance. Just like Confucianism is respected in the Chinese dynasty, the court cannot only have one family's opinion, so it supports good families and maintains balance with non-Confucian knowledge. But the Chinese dynasty has long since abolished feudalism, and only needs the art of balance. "
"The shogunate is different. It took the Celestial Dynasty abolishing feudalism for a whole thousand years, from Shang Yang's reform, to the decree of pushing grace, to the nine ranks of Zhongzheng, and to the selection of scholars through the imperial examination."
"If the shogunate wants to complete this thousand-year journey in a short period of time, it needs soldiers in its hands, and these soldiers cannot be samurai."
"If you want to be able to conquer the world, you must also be able to rule the world. Today, only Confucian scholars can rule the world."
"Therefore, the Celestial Dynasty is afraid that the Confucian family will dominate the court, so it must balance; the shogunate wants to abolish the feudal clan and set up counties in the future, it must support Confucian scholars."
"Wen depends on Confucianism, and martial arts depends on the extraordinary soldiers outside the warriors."
"It was impossible to do it, but now there is an opportunity."
"First of all, we must be a good comprador, abolish the thrift order, and use trade goods to weaken the financial resources of the vassals, so that the shogunate can have more wealth to support soldiers."
"Open a school, teach Confucianism, teach the righteousness of Confucianism, and train a group of non-samurai who can read. And in order to prevent the samurai from colluding with the samurai, they must learn differently from the samurai. The Confucian classics are the most suitable, especially Zhu Zixue. And it must be widely spread. Learn Chinese in order to interpret the classics, so that they are different from warriors, each has hatred, and it is difficult to agree."
"This requires money, and the general can just use the money as a comprador to open a school."
"Besides the school, send young Confucian students to the Celestial Dynasty to learn the art of war system, and use the money from compradors to organize surprise soldiers."
"The strange soldiers are mainly civilians, not warriors. They specialize in firearms and use Confucian scholars as officers."
"In this way, 30 years later, there will be hundreds of thousands of Confucian students who are proficient in Sinology, and there will also be tens of thousands of soldiers with sharp weapons. They can both conquer the world and rule the world."
"There is no need to rush this matter. It takes the survivors of several lifetimes. Then feudalism will be abolished and the counties will be selected as officials through the imperial examination. The hereditary samurai will be abolished, and finally the salary of this life will be paid. In the future, everything will be the same as that of the common people. This is the so-called once and for all." "
"Increase revenue first, and then reduce expenditure. You must not reduce expenditure first, and then increase revenue. Otherwise, before the well is dug, the warriors will rebel and push the well down, and you will be buried in the well."
"How to open source? Of course it is a comprador. If you don't become a comprador, you can't open source. I have been to Tosa, and the people have been squeezed out, so if you want to squeeze the people, you can't squeeze them out."
"I thought about the general's help in building shipping, so I sent the general to open ports and tariffs. It's a pity that the general not only didn't appreciate it, but resented me, which made me feel very unhappy."
"Besides, there is another advantage to being a comprador. Japan is not a celestial dynasty, not unified. The people will only resent their lords, and imagine that the general is a master of the blue sky."
"If you try hard to sell the goods to the feudal clans, the feudal clans will be in financial difficulties, and they will squeeze the people even harder. At that time, the general will abolish the feudal clans and set up counties, won't the people win the food?"
"If you are a comprador with peace of mind, how can you not get a few million taels a year? As long as you have money, you can run schools to learn Confucianism, and you can train strange soldiers to replace regular soldiers. Wait until the rare soldiers are strong enough to beat the regular soldiers, and when Japan accumulates There are tens of thousands of Confucian scholars, why worry about the failure of major events?"
"What is gold and silver? If the general abolished the feudal clan and set up counties, broadcast Zhu Zi's theory, combined public and military forces, the three cardinal principles and five constant principles, gold and silver will not be used in the future, gold and silver will be abolished, and it will be the same as the Ming Dynasty issuing banknotes? Wait until the abolition of the feudal clan After Zhixian and Japan were stabilized, the shogunate issued banknotes, forcing the people to hand over gold and silver in exchange for paper banknotes, and trade gold and silver for Chinese goods. Wouldn’t it be beautiful to use Chinese goods as the basis to anchor the value of banknotes?”
(End of this chapter)
These words completely shattered Tokugawa Yoshimune's last hope. The words fell into his ears, his blood surged, and his eyes turned black.
It took a long time before the darkness in front of him dissipated, and his mind was in a trance.
Steady his mind, he didn't want Liu Yu to see it, so he had to write: "I thought it was Mr. Liu who wanted to raise Kou's self-respect."
Liu Yu patted his forehead, smiled and shook his head.
"Keeping up the pirates is a threat. General, general, I will give you 30 years. Can you make up a fleet that threatens Weihai? After 30 years, I may be buried in the ground. Is there anyone who raises pirates like this?" ?”
"Rather than raising the bandits' self-respect, it is better to say that Guangyuan raised Ruozi. I want a qualified shogun. As for who will be the shogun, that doesn't matter."
"General, think carefully about what I said. If you have figured it out, let's talk about how Dashun will protect the stability of the shogunate after the tribute."
He finally used an allusion made in Japan, and I don't know if Tokugawa Yoshimune has read this novel.In this era, women are similar to objects, and their husbands are the key link, which also fits an analogy under the tribute.
Tokugawa Yoshimune felt a little unhappy and felt a little humiliated by this metaphor, but Liu Yu's previous words had already plunged him into a kind of despair.
A few months ago, as the shogun, he was still shouting slogans: Even if a new king is established, the shogunate banner is wiped out, the shogunate falls, and he dies in battle, he will never negotiate peace!
But now, facing Liu Yu's humiliating metaphor, his heart has already begun to waver.
During the long entanglement, considering the various impossibilities of Liu Yu's Japanese revenge plan, even if he was reluctant, he had to admit that Liu Yu was right.
In Japan, it seems that there is really no chance.
After probing for a long time, I didn't find out Dashun's future strategy, whether it still has the heart to continue to develop.
On the contrary, I feel that, according to what Liu Yu said, Dashun also needs to have a purpose when going to war.
It seems that apart from being the emperor of the world and the king of the world, it seems that according to Liu Yu, there seems to be no need to go to war against the Nanman.
Even Japan can make a pattern of letting the Dutch go to Edo to pay tribute. If the Celestial Dynasty is only for paying tribute, it only needs the Ministry of Rites and officials to tamper with the credential, and the tribute will be completed.
Could it be that this is the end?
After a long silence, Tokugawa Yoshimune finally let go of his last bit of face. Face is only valuable if a third party is present. Now there are only two people here, and the person delivering the documents is illiterate, so there is no face to consider.
"The Celestial Dynasty, what kind of shogunate do you want?"
He really put down his face and asked Dashun's purpose just like what Liu Yu said about Guangyuan's plan.
Maybe listen.
Maybe follow suit.
Or maybe they can understand some truths from these requirements, or guess the purpose of Dashun.
Liu Yu saw that Tokugawa Yoshimune finally bowed his head on the surface, and he didn't provoke Tokugawa Yoshimune any more. Originally, what he wanted to say was "a shogunate like the general is exactly what the Celestial Dynasty wants. As long as the general abolishes the thrift order and does not interfere It can be traded in any currency.”
But to say that, it's a bit too humiliating, like saying that Tokugawa Yoshimune is no threat in Dashun's eyes.
To be honest, Liu Yu really didn't have many demands on the shogunate.Too difficult a policy, the shogunate can't do it at all.
Anyway, the current situation in Japan is quite suitable for trade. There is no problem of land reform in Japan. One person has one crop, trading is prohibited, and renting begins to be suppressed as soon as there is a sign.But the samurai class in Japan sucked so much blood that the common people had no spending power at all.
It also happens that the industrial revolution in Dashun has not yet started, and the main thing is to sell luxury goods... such as glass, which is not a daily necessities at this time, but a luxury.
Japan is too close, and poor enough, it is not a suitable market after the industrial revolution, but it is a perfect pre-industrial revolution era, the main consumer perfectly fits the Dashun handicraft industry's superior export market.
Samurai sucking blood is actually a good thing for Dashun.There is only so much ration of blood, and if it is divided evenly, the luxury goods market will shrink.
"The general don't need to rush to ask what kind of shogunate the Celestial Dynasty wants, you should first listen to the conditions given by the Celestial Dynasty."
"If the shogunate can follow suit, the Celestial Dynasty promises that it will not sell weapons to the vassals, nor will it directly trade with the vassals."
"The Celestial Dynasty will not interfere with the canonization of the shogun. It would be best if the eldest son inheritance system can be implemented. If not, the Chinese government will also use the reason that 'the shogun is not a king, and the selection of the virtuous is not the election of the leader'. It will not be like North Korea. That's how you pay close attention to patriarchal etiquette."
"If someone falls, China will send troops to support it. The scale must be higher than that of the Dutch in the Shimabara Rebellion. They can even send troops to suppress it."
"The Celestial Dynasty guarantees the hereditary succession of the shoguns, and bestows on the princes of the county."
"If Japan is invaded by the Southern Barbarians, the Celestial Dynasty will definitely send troops."
"The Celestial Dynasty will not accept any Japanese who go to the Celestial Dynasty privately. Once discovered, they will be captured immediately and sent to the shogunate for disposal."
"A batch of firearms from the shogunate can be sold appropriately."
"When the shogunate is in financial difficulty, the Chinese merchants can borrow money from the shogunate, with an annual interest rate of only 15.00%, and the tariff can be used as collateral."
"If a tragedy like the Xiangbao famine occurs again, the Celestial Dynasty can mobilize a batch of food for rescue and help the shogunate stabilize the situation..."
Some conditions that could not be clearly written in the treaty were stated by Liu Yu one by one.
The signing of a treaty is a matter between two countries, with the sovereign as the signer.And these conditions are private conditions with the Tokugawa clan, not the official department of the shogunate at all.
After seeing it, Tokugawa Yoshimune directly asked a very important question.
"What if one day, public opinion boils over and demands the reduction of feudal vassals, return to government, and integration of public and military forces?"
Liu Yu thought in his heart that you can cooperate as much as you like. What I care about is your economic system, not whether it is unified in name.
As long as the separation of peasants and soldiers remains, as long as the land is still feudal, you can do whatever you like.
The shogunate can't accomplish anything, and there is no reform that takes the initiative to change itself to death.
"How does the general want to cut down the domain? What about the samurai of each domain? The general should know the situation of Tosa, right? The Yamauchi clan has taken over the magpie's nest, and the old department of Nagamune's family has been dissatisfied. They have a bunch of genealogical daimyos and pro-vassal daimyos to replace them." ?”
"Or is it going to follow the example of Shang Yang, abolishing well fields, abolishing warriors, abolishing vassals and setting up counties? If this is the case, then there is another way to say it."
"If the general is impatient, I think the government of Li just waits to turn over "Posthumous Fa Jie"."
"But it's not impossible if you don't get impatient."
This answer was really beyond Tokugawa Yoshimune's expectation. He just wanted to test it out, but seeing what Liu Yu meant, not only did he not object, but he seemed to support it.
This made Tokugawa Yoshimune suddenly alert, but whoever Liu Yu supported, probably had something hidden.
What's more, the things that Liu Yu supports can often come up with feasible solutions.
While alert, Tokugawa Yoshimune still asked, if he really wanted to follow the example of Shang Yang, what should he do by abolishing well fields, abolishing samurai, abolishing vassals and setting up counties.
"The art of stratagem is nothing more than balance. Just like Confucianism is respected in the Chinese dynasty, the court cannot only have one family's opinion, so it supports good families and maintains balance with non-Confucian knowledge. But the Chinese dynasty has long since abolished feudalism, and only needs the art of balance. "
"The shogunate is different. It took the Celestial Dynasty abolishing feudalism for a whole thousand years, from Shang Yang's reform, to the decree of pushing grace, to the nine ranks of Zhongzheng, and to the selection of scholars through the imperial examination."
"If the shogunate wants to complete this thousand-year journey in a short period of time, it needs soldiers in its hands, and these soldiers cannot be samurai."
"If you want to be able to conquer the world, you must also be able to rule the world. Today, only Confucian scholars can rule the world."
"Therefore, the Celestial Dynasty is afraid that the Confucian family will dominate the court, so it must balance; the shogunate wants to abolish the feudal clan and set up counties in the future, it must support Confucian scholars."
"Wen depends on Confucianism, and martial arts depends on the extraordinary soldiers outside the warriors."
"It was impossible to do it, but now there is an opportunity."
"First of all, we must be a good comprador, abolish the thrift order, and use trade goods to weaken the financial resources of the vassals, so that the shogunate can have more wealth to support soldiers."
"Open a school, teach Confucianism, teach the righteousness of Confucianism, and train a group of non-samurai who can read. And in order to prevent the samurai from colluding with the samurai, they must learn differently from the samurai. The Confucian classics are the most suitable, especially Zhu Zixue. And it must be widely spread. Learn Chinese in order to interpret the classics, so that they are different from warriors, each has hatred, and it is difficult to agree."
"This requires money, and the general can just use the money as a comprador to open a school."
"Besides the school, send young Confucian students to the Celestial Dynasty to learn the art of war system, and use the money from compradors to organize surprise soldiers."
"The strange soldiers are mainly civilians, not warriors. They specialize in firearms and use Confucian scholars as officers."
"In this way, 30 years later, there will be hundreds of thousands of Confucian students who are proficient in Sinology, and there will also be tens of thousands of soldiers with sharp weapons. They can both conquer the world and rule the world."
"There is no need to rush this matter. It takes the survivors of several lifetimes. Then feudalism will be abolished and the counties will be selected as officials through the imperial examination. The hereditary samurai will be abolished, and finally the salary of this life will be paid. In the future, everything will be the same as that of the common people. This is the so-called once and for all." "
"Increase revenue first, and then reduce expenditure. You must not reduce expenditure first, and then increase revenue. Otherwise, before the well is dug, the warriors will rebel and push the well down, and you will be buried in the well."
"How to open source? Of course it is a comprador. If you don't become a comprador, you can't open source. I have been to Tosa, and the people have been squeezed out, so if you want to squeeze the people, you can't squeeze them out."
"I thought about the general's help in building shipping, so I sent the general to open ports and tariffs. It's a pity that the general not only didn't appreciate it, but resented me, which made me feel very unhappy."
"Besides, there is another advantage to being a comprador. Japan is not a celestial dynasty, not unified. The people will only resent their lords, and imagine that the general is a master of the blue sky."
"If you try hard to sell the goods to the feudal clans, the feudal clans will be in financial difficulties, and they will squeeze the people even harder. At that time, the general will abolish the feudal clans and set up counties, won't the people win the food?"
"If you are a comprador with peace of mind, how can you not get a few million taels a year? As long as you have money, you can run schools to learn Confucianism, and you can train strange soldiers to replace regular soldiers. Wait until the rare soldiers are strong enough to beat the regular soldiers, and when Japan accumulates There are tens of thousands of Confucian scholars, why worry about the failure of major events?"
"What is gold and silver? If the general abolished the feudal clan and set up counties, broadcast Zhu Zi's theory, combined public and military forces, the three cardinal principles and five constant principles, gold and silver will not be used in the future, gold and silver will be abolished, and it will be the same as the Ming Dynasty issuing banknotes? Wait until the abolition of the feudal clan After Zhixian and Japan were stabilized, the shogunate issued banknotes, forcing the people to hand over gold and silver in exchange for paper banknotes, and trade gold and silver for Chinese goods. Wouldn’t it be beautiful to use Chinese goods as the basis to anchor the value of banknotes?”
(End of this chapter)
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