Xinshun 1730
Chapter 497 Impatient
Chapter 497 Impatient
This problem is actually quite normal.
But depending on the occasion, on this occasion, it would be a bit weird.And it's a little weird.
It's all for others, Liu Yu really can't laugh or cry in his heart.
Before coming to the capital, when Yu Weihai was chatting with Kang Bushao, he gave several examples of what it means to be "brainless".
For example, the theory of horse liver in the time of Emperor Wenwen of the Han Dynasty, whether Shang Tang Zhou Wu was considered a traitor or not.As far as the ruler is concerned, this thing cannot be debated, talked about, or touched, but can only be sanctified and nihilized.
Another example is Yongzheng's "Dayijue Milu" in history, and other missionaries who believe that religion is a lie. The same reason is purely a problem with the brain.
It is similar to Arai Shiraishi's "Maharaja or King" in Japan, and Hagyu Sorai's "Etiquette is the correct distribution under limited social production, so it is reasonable".
Once the sacred things are discussed whether they are reasonable or not, the most important "sacredness" of the sacred things will be smashed to pieces.
The greatest rationality of the sacred is that it is sacred and untouchable, not that it is sacred because of the rationality.
Now Li Gan asks whether the Celestial Dynasty has boundaries, whether the Celestial Dynasty should be divided into internal and external...
China can have its own sphere of influence, which has boundaries.
But the celestial dynasty cannot have boundaries. The morality and etiquette of the celestial dynasty must be universal, and the surroundings are all barbarians.
It is no problem for Li Gan to say these words as a Chinese monarch.But as the son of heaven, there are big problems.
Liu Yu can discuss the concept of the celestial dynasty and the world, and the ministers can discuss it. Even in private, the emperor discussed with the ministers how to distinguish between diplomacy and tribute.
But the emperor can't talk about it at such a high-level banquet.
In private, talking about distinguishing between diplomacy and tribute is a matter of practice and belongs to the practice of governing the country.
A big banquet, talking about whether there is a boundary to the Celestial Dynasty, this is the question of the line, which belongs to the theoretical debate.
Liu Yu knew that the emperor hoped to take this opportunity to delineate Dashun's sphere of influence, but even if there was no debate at the banquet today, this incident would definitely leave sequelae afterwards.
Saying this sentence itself means that Li Gan himself has given up the land of the king and the derived tribute system, and turned to the derivatives of the Westphalian system in Europe.
It is tantamount to Li Gan's admission that the Celestial Kingdom is not capable of being the emperor of the earth now, and can only try to be the five tyrants and create a system of international law that Dashun participates in.
This matter is not a question of whether it is right or wrong, but that this matter will inevitably lead to a big debate, and at this time this kind of debate will inevitably give birth to extreme conservatism.
And after Dashun abandoned Zhu Zixue, the moral corruption brought about by economic development, the people's hearts are not ancient, and the thoughts of seeking profit and wealth have fully conservatively rebounded.
This is what Liu Yu said, "It's easy to make fire but hard to protect it." Li Gan's actions, in Liu Yu's view, were because he was too anxious.
Impatience is not a good thing.
Under the impact of the new era, although new ideas will be born, extreme conservatism will also be born.
Light and shadow accompany, it has always been like this.
Confucianism is like this, Islam is like this, and so is Christianity.
All educational reforms are attempts to "seek answers from the classics of ancient sages."
The reason is that the progress of productivity has brought about the old culture and the mismatch of morality, which has led to "material desires", "people's hearts are not ancient", and "the morals are corrupted".
In Liu Yu's view, this is a good thing, which means the liberation of the mind, and it is a manifestation that the development of social productive forces and cultural morality always lag behind the development of productive forces.
But for the guardians of tradition, this is a bad thing.
In this era, facing the impact of the new era, Islam is also brewing religious reforms, which gave birth to wahhabi, which is extremely conservative.
The ancient schools that emerged in Japan are also "retro"; the ancient Confucianism schools in Dashun are also "retro".
Even in earlier Christianity, Protestant Calvinism is also retro: You are a pope, but you are also a mortal, and you understand the meaning of Christianity?Why do you explain?
The original and religious teachings should have a Bible in hand, instead of believing in things that have been changed by the Holy See.
The reasoning is similar to that of the ancient school of thought and the ancient Confucianism school. They all believe that the real "classics and righteousness" have been misinterpreted by later generations.You, Zhu Xi, are also a mortal. If you understand the righteousness of Confucianism, you should have a set of ancient books from the pre-Qin period to understand the true righteousness of the sages.
However, the culprits sought by the ancient school and the ancient Confucianism are Song and Ming Confucianism; the culprits sought by the Protestantism are the Catholic Church.
Just like after the Protestant Reformation, all the originals and teachings are based on the Bible, and the pope who has the right to interpret is gone, then various schools will be born, all claiming to be orthodox.There are both progressive ones and some extremely conservative and reactionary ones that are even more reactionary than Catholicism.
The school of ancient studies and Confucianism is the same.After the original and teaching principles, throwing away the Neo-Confucianism of the Song and Ming Dynasties and picking up the pre-Qin classics, the result is infinitely divisible.There are bound to be extreme progressives and extreme conservatives.
Maybe they all use the banner of ancient studies and Confucianism, but they are taking completely different paths.
Now that Li Gan directly uses the sanctified concept of the Celestial Dynasty as an example, it is likely to become the fuse of the detonation.
Just like the rise of Japanese ancient studies, when the oppressed Zhu Zixue was about to die, the conservatives fought back in Jedi and launched a lenient policy and banned schools; Dashun abandoned Zhu Zixue, but the conservatives did not disappear, they just existed under a different name That is.
Liu Yu didn't disagree, but felt that Li Gan was too impatient and the timing was wrong. He should wait for more than ten years, until many things in the new era have taken root and stood firm, before arguing about these things.
Now it is time to learn from Emperor Wen of the Han Dynasty, not to argue, to develop first, to take a step, to look at one step, and when Emperor Wu comes, he will automatically dispose of Confucianism, choose the correct direction, and determine the principles and theories that adapt to the times.
However, if Emperor Wen did not use Huang Lao’s learning, did not use the art of criminal names, skipped the great social development of the rule of Wen and Jing, put down the chaos of the Seven Kingdoms, and wanted to depose a hundred schools of thought and respect Confucianism, it would not only fail, but would suffer Backlash.
It's just that the emperor has said everything, and nothing can be changed.
Having said that, I must have been prepared.
I didn't tell Liu Yu about this, but I must have talked to someone else.
Talking on such an occasion is not nonsense. The emperor raised a question, and the ministers had to answer the words according to the emperor's wishes. If they hadn't practiced in advance, it would be difficult to have such a tacit understanding.
Liu Yu thought about the arrangement of the emperor's side, although he didn't think it was a good thing to say on this occasion, but he didn't want to take care of it anymore, who knew what the emperor was going to do.
Anyway, I said less and watched more today.
If you can't speak, don't speak, unless the emperor asks him.
Taking advantage of the emperor's questioning, all the ministers were muttering about the matter under the emperor's signal, and Liu Yu also pretended to turn sideways and chatted with the Duke of Qi who was next to him.
But the eyeballs were spinning around, and they glanced at the Western envoys sitting there.
The translator has already translated in Latin. There is no one in Dashun who knows English or Dutch, and the communication with foreign countries is either French or Latin.Fortunately, the other side can also understand.
The rest of the envoys were fine, and probably guessed that they could participate in such a high-level banquet today, and Dashun itself meant to declare his sphere of influence.
Only Count Altesman of the Russian Mission had an obviously ugly face.
Liu Yu can also think of the things here.Just now Li Gan went back to the Han and Tang Dynasties, and when he mentioned the Han and Tang Dynasties, it was almost bound to the issue of the Western Regions.The boundary treaty between Dashun and Russia has not yet been signed, and Dashun threatened too much, demanding that Russia demolish many fortresses and return many pastures to the Junggar tribe; at this time, it was reported that the Swedish radicals came to power and were preparing to go to war against Russia information.
When Liu Yu was mad at the old Tolstoy, he had trouble with the translation of "Son of Heaven" and "Tsar".
The Son of Heaven was given the title of "Basilius of Basilius", which is the title of King of Kings.This name is called Jesus in the Bible, but Liu Yu said that the inheritance of the King of Kings in Persia was in Tang Gaozong.Dashun is the orthodox celestial dynasty, so what's wrong with inheriting the title of King of Kings?
Now Li Gan is envious of the Han and Tang Dynasties, and asked "Where is the boundary of the Celestial Dynasty?" How did Earl Altesmann hear it, and how did he feel that Dashun was going to declare war on Russia and restore Li Tang's absolute control over the Western Regions? , and even thinking about meddling in Persian affairs?
A while ago, Russia captured a small mission that secretly went to the Torghut Ministry, apparently for communication, with various measuring instruments and drawing tools.
Although he was still talking with Dashun, it was difficult to say anything, but he was still very nervous about Dashun's attitude.
In the war against Japan, Liu Yu, who formed the navy with one hand, stayed in the capital instead of commanding it. There were many rumors that Dashun was going to send Liu Yu to the Western Regions, to command the soldiers in the Western Regions, Mongolia, and Heilongjiang.
At the end of the Conquest Day, Liu Yu named "Whale Sea" instead of "Jinghai". It sounded like Dashun was announcing "maritime and continental strategy, we finally chose the mainland".
Liu Yu looked over there quietly, and Earl Altesman involuntarily glanced towards Liu Yu.The eyes of the two met in the air, and then they each turned aside, no longer looking at each other.
After turning his head around, Duke Qi whispered: "Did Shouchang hear the news from Xiyang? It's wonderful, wonderful. In this way, I think things will be much easier to handle."
It seems that Qi Guogong didn't care that the emperor said such words on this occasion, and maybe he didn't realize that what the emperor said just now would cause a huge controversy?
Liu Yu felt a little strange, but Qi Guogong didn't say this, but asked about Western affairs, so he had to answer in a low voice.
"I heard that it is indeed wonderful and beneficial to the dynasty. However, having said that, Duke Qi, did your majesty say anything to you? His majesty's question about the celestial dynasty has no boundaries, obviously to draw out the affairs of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. You didn't what idea?"
Duke Qi smiled, and was about to answer when he heard the ceremony officer strike a small bell.The situation that had been chattering and whispering just now suddenly quieted down.
"Qi Guogong, since you are in charge of the etiquette of communicating with Western countries, what do you think about this?"
The emperor directly named Qi Guogong, and Liu Yu let out a hey in his heart, thinking that the co-author is you?
(End of this chapter)
This problem is actually quite normal.
But depending on the occasion, on this occasion, it would be a bit weird.And it's a little weird.
It's all for others, Liu Yu really can't laugh or cry in his heart.
Before coming to the capital, when Yu Weihai was chatting with Kang Bushao, he gave several examples of what it means to be "brainless".
For example, the theory of horse liver in the time of Emperor Wenwen of the Han Dynasty, whether Shang Tang Zhou Wu was considered a traitor or not.As far as the ruler is concerned, this thing cannot be debated, talked about, or touched, but can only be sanctified and nihilized.
Another example is Yongzheng's "Dayijue Milu" in history, and other missionaries who believe that religion is a lie. The same reason is purely a problem with the brain.
It is similar to Arai Shiraishi's "Maharaja or King" in Japan, and Hagyu Sorai's "Etiquette is the correct distribution under limited social production, so it is reasonable".
Once the sacred things are discussed whether they are reasonable or not, the most important "sacredness" of the sacred things will be smashed to pieces.
The greatest rationality of the sacred is that it is sacred and untouchable, not that it is sacred because of the rationality.
Now Li Gan asks whether the Celestial Dynasty has boundaries, whether the Celestial Dynasty should be divided into internal and external...
China can have its own sphere of influence, which has boundaries.
But the celestial dynasty cannot have boundaries. The morality and etiquette of the celestial dynasty must be universal, and the surroundings are all barbarians.
It is no problem for Li Gan to say these words as a Chinese monarch.But as the son of heaven, there are big problems.
Liu Yu can discuss the concept of the celestial dynasty and the world, and the ministers can discuss it. Even in private, the emperor discussed with the ministers how to distinguish between diplomacy and tribute.
But the emperor can't talk about it at such a high-level banquet.
In private, talking about distinguishing between diplomacy and tribute is a matter of practice and belongs to the practice of governing the country.
A big banquet, talking about whether there is a boundary to the Celestial Dynasty, this is the question of the line, which belongs to the theoretical debate.
Liu Yu knew that the emperor hoped to take this opportunity to delineate Dashun's sphere of influence, but even if there was no debate at the banquet today, this incident would definitely leave sequelae afterwards.
Saying this sentence itself means that Li Gan himself has given up the land of the king and the derived tribute system, and turned to the derivatives of the Westphalian system in Europe.
It is tantamount to Li Gan's admission that the Celestial Kingdom is not capable of being the emperor of the earth now, and can only try to be the five tyrants and create a system of international law that Dashun participates in.
This matter is not a question of whether it is right or wrong, but that this matter will inevitably lead to a big debate, and at this time this kind of debate will inevitably give birth to extreme conservatism.
And after Dashun abandoned Zhu Zixue, the moral corruption brought about by economic development, the people's hearts are not ancient, and the thoughts of seeking profit and wealth have fully conservatively rebounded.
This is what Liu Yu said, "It's easy to make fire but hard to protect it." Li Gan's actions, in Liu Yu's view, were because he was too anxious.
Impatience is not a good thing.
Under the impact of the new era, although new ideas will be born, extreme conservatism will also be born.
Light and shadow accompany, it has always been like this.
Confucianism is like this, Islam is like this, and so is Christianity.
All educational reforms are attempts to "seek answers from the classics of ancient sages."
The reason is that the progress of productivity has brought about the old culture and the mismatch of morality, which has led to "material desires", "people's hearts are not ancient", and "the morals are corrupted".
In Liu Yu's view, this is a good thing, which means the liberation of the mind, and it is a manifestation that the development of social productive forces and cultural morality always lag behind the development of productive forces.
But for the guardians of tradition, this is a bad thing.
In this era, facing the impact of the new era, Islam is also brewing religious reforms, which gave birth to wahhabi, which is extremely conservative.
The ancient schools that emerged in Japan are also "retro"; the ancient Confucianism schools in Dashun are also "retro".
Even in earlier Christianity, Protestant Calvinism is also retro: You are a pope, but you are also a mortal, and you understand the meaning of Christianity?Why do you explain?
The original and religious teachings should have a Bible in hand, instead of believing in things that have been changed by the Holy See.
The reasoning is similar to that of the ancient school of thought and the ancient Confucianism school. They all believe that the real "classics and righteousness" have been misinterpreted by later generations.You, Zhu Xi, are also a mortal. If you understand the righteousness of Confucianism, you should have a set of ancient books from the pre-Qin period to understand the true righteousness of the sages.
However, the culprits sought by the ancient school and the ancient Confucianism are Song and Ming Confucianism; the culprits sought by the Protestantism are the Catholic Church.
Just like after the Protestant Reformation, all the originals and teachings are based on the Bible, and the pope who has the right to interpret is gone, then various schools will be born, all claiming to be orthodox.There are both progressive ones and some extremely conservative and reactionary ones that are even more reactionary than Catholicism.
The school of ancient studies and Confucianism is the same.After the original and teaching principles, throwing away the Neo-Confucianism of the Song and Ming Dynasties and picking up the pre-Qin classics, the result is infinitely divisible.There are bound to be extreme progressives and extreme conservatives.
Maybe they all use the banner of ancient studies and Confucianism, but they are taking completely different paths.
Now that Li Gan directly uses the sanctified concept of the Celestial Dynasty as an example, it is likely to become the fuse of the detonation.
Just like the rise of Japanese ancient studies, when the oppressed Zhu Zixue was about to die, the conservatives fought back in Jedi and launched a lenient policy and banned schools; Dashun abandoned Zhu Zixue, but the conservatives did not disappear, they just existed under a different name That is.
Liu Yu didn't disagree, but felt that Li Gan was too impatient and the timing was wrong. He should wait for more than ten years, until many things in the new era have taken root and stood firm, before arguing about these things.
Now it is time to learn from Emperor Wen of the Han Dynasty, not to argue, to develop first, to take a step, to look at one step, and when Emperor Wu comes, he will automatically dispose of Confucianism, choose the correct direction, and determine the principles and theories that adapt to the times.
However, if Emperor Wen did not use Huang Lao’s learning, did not use the art of criminal names, skipped the great social development of the rule of Wen and Jing, put down the chaos of the Seven Kingdoms, and wanted to depose a hundred schools of thought and respect Confucianism, it would not only fail, but would suffer Backlash.
It's just that the emperor has said everything, and nothing can be changed.
Having said that, I must have been prepared.
I didn't tell Liu Yu about this, but I must have talked to someone else.
Talking on such an occasion is not nonsense. The emperor raised a question, and the ministers had to answer the words according to the emperor's wishes. If they hadn't practiced in advance, it would be difficult to have such a tacit understanding.
Liu Yu thought about the arrangement of the emperor's side, although he didn't think it was a good thing to say on this occasion, but he didn't want to take care of it anymore, who knew what the emperor was going to do.
Anyway, I said less and watched more today.
If you can't speak, don't speak, unless the emperor asks him.
Taking advantage of the emperor's questioning, all the ministers were muttering about the matter under the emperor's signal, and Liu Yu also pretended to turn sideways and chatted with the Duke of Qi who was next to him.
But the eyeballs were spinning around, and they glanced at the Western envoys sitting there.
The translator has already translated in Latin. There is no one in Dashun who knows English or Dutch, and the communication with foreign countries is either French or Latin.Fortunately, the other side can also understand.
The rest of the envoys were fine, and probably guessed that they could participate in such a high-level banquet today, and Dashun itself meant to declare his sphere of influence.
Only Count Altesman of the Russian Mission had an obviously ugly face.
Liu Yu can also think of the things here.Just now Li Gan went back to the Han and Tang Dynasties, and when he mentioned the Han and Tang Dynasties, it was almost bound to the issue of the Western Regions.The boundary treaty between Dashun and Russia has not yet been signed, and Dashun threatened too much, demanding that Russia demolish many fortresses and return many pastures to the Junggar tribe; at this time, it was reported that the Swedish radicals came to power and were preparing to go to war against Russia information.
When Liu Yu was mad at the old Tolstoy, he had trouble with the translation of "Son of Heaven" and "Tsar".
The Son of Heaven was given the title of "Basilius of Basilius", which is the title of King of Kings.This name is called Jesus in the Bible, but Liu Yu said that the inheritance of the King of Kings in Persia was in Tang Gaozong.Dashun is the orthodox celestial dynasty, so what's wrong with inheriting the title of King of Kings?
Now Li Gan is envious of the Han and Tang Dynasties, and asked "Where is the boundary of the Celestial Dynasty?" How did Earl Altesmann hear it, and how did he feel that Dashun was going to declare war on Russia and restore Li Tang's absolute control over the Western Regions? , and even thinking about meddling in Persian affairs?
A while ago, Russia captured a small mission that secretly went to the Torghut Ministry, apparently for communication, with various measuring instruments and drawing tools.
Although he was still talking with Dashun, it was difficult to say anything, but he was still very nervous about Dashun's attitude.
In the war against Japan, Liu Yu, who formed the navy with one hand, stayed in the capital instead of commanding it. There were many rumors that Dashun was going to send Liu Yu to the Western Regions, to command the soldiers in the Western Regions, Mongolia, and Heilongjiang.
At the end of the Conquest Day, Liu Yu named "Whale Sea" instead of "Jinghai". It sounded like Dashun was announcing "maritime and continental strategy, we finally chose the mainland".
Liu Yu looked over there quietly, and Earl Altesman involuntarily glanced towards Liu Yu.The eyes of the two met in the air, and then they each turned aside, no longer looking at each other.
After turning his head around, Duke Qi whispered: "Did Shouchang hear the news from Xiyang? It's wonderful, wonderful. In this way, I think things will be much easier to handle."
It seems that Qi Guogong didn't care that the emperor said such words on this occasion, and maybe he didn't realize that what the emperor said just now would cause a huge controversy?
Liu Yu felt a little strange, but Qi Guogong didn't say this, but asked about Western affairs, so he had to answer in a low voice.
"I heard that it is indeed wonderful and beneficial to the dynasty. However, having said that, Duke Qi, did your majesty say anything to you? His majesty's question about the celestial dynasty has no boundaries, obviously to draw out the affairs of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. You didn't what idea?"
Duke Qi smiled, and was about to answer when he heard the ceremony officer strike a small bell.The situation that had been chattering and whispering just now suddenly quieted down.
"Qi Guogong, since you are in charge of the etiquette of communicating with Western countries, what do you think about this?"
The emperor directly named Qi Guogong, and Liu Yu let out a hey in his heart, thinking that the co-author is you?
(End of this chapter)
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