Xinshun 1730
Chapter 501 Patriarchal Colonial System
Chapter 501 Patriarchal Colonial System
Everyone in the Western Missions stepped forward, following the court etiquette on Dashun's side.When Qi Guogong visited Europe, he did as the Romans did, and saluted the other party according to the local court etiquette.
This matter has become a rule, take it or leave, not so much nonsense.
After all, it is the crown of the Chinese Empire that is still standing firmly and can be knocked loudly at this time.Although Britain's annual revenue is close to two-thirds of Dashun's without India, it is still far behind.The rest are farther away.
As for the so-called etiquette, Westerners also understand what a hierarchy is, and they play it very well.
The Statue of Liberty, which was given to the United States by France, has a seven-pointed crown on its head.And France's own portrait of the Statue of Liberty, in the nineteenth century albums and posters, is the standard nine-pointed.As a designer, the French didn’t even know the seven awns and the metaphor of the seven continents. After all, the original author would never get full marks for reading comprehension.
In fact, it is quite similar to the fact that the emperor of Dashun himself wears twelve belts, and the king of Joseon County can only wear nine belts according to the etiquette of princes, which is a metaphor for father and son Gang Changer.The etiquette system and logic of this feudal society are almost the same all over the world. Kneeling on one leg and kneeling on two legs is just a formality.
The envoys present are all members of the noble circle, and those who don't understand the connotation of superiority and inferiority, there is no need to entangle in the issue of etiquette.
Liu Yu was twisting his neck to see the excitement and hear what the emperor was going to say to these people, but he didn't want the emperor to call his name.
"The Marquis of Whale is also coming to me. In the past, the Raksha State Book relied on the strength of Ai Qing, so as not to damage the state. Today, the matter is big, and there must be no mistakes in the translation."
"Yes, the minister is ordered."
After kneeling and saluting, Xiaobu walked to the side of the emperor, one on the left and one on the right of Guanglu Temple who presided over the banquet, Yuefu and dance.
In terms of translation level, Liu Yu's level is not bad, thanks to Dai Jinxian who taught him Latin for many years.Dai Jinxian was originally a missionary, and he also taught Liu Yu a lot of Confucian classics.
In the past few years, I have dealt with Westerners more, and I can speak some Russian and French, but there should be no envoys from various countries who do not understand Latin.
"Recently, I have been looking at the systems of other countries, and I heard that you talk about 'colonies'. From my point of view, the so-called colonies are nothing more than three or five kinds."
"Or like Zhou feudal world, Xia Jun barbarians. If the Dutch country is in Nanyang, there are Dutch people in the city, and local aborigines outside the city. The Dutch in the city are the countrymen, and the aborigines outside the city are savages. This is probably the case. The wisdom of the previous kings, given time, will be more It can be assimilated, with the same vulgarity, and with the same pronunciation.”
"Or it's like this dynasty immigrated to Liaodong and Jinghai. The population of the country migrated there, and the officials were set up just like the system of the country. The same language and the same species were set up by the governor. France is in America, which is probably the case."
"Or if the Han and Tang Dynasties defended the Western Regions and used barbarians to control the barbarians, some garrison troops in the capital guarded the government to instigate the barbarians and the diners to fight each other, and support the barbarians and the diners to be close to the Han and Tang. These methods can also be used in many ways."
"Besides these three, the rest of the methods can also be learned from history. There is nothing special about it."
"The suzerainty and vassal system of the celestial dynasty is different from the colonies. The celestial dynasty has its own system. If you can't understand it, you can understand it as 'family patriarchal law'."
"The Heavenly Dynasty is the father, and the rest are the sons. The son is the father's guide. When the son is in trouble, it is natural for the father to save him; when the son gets married, he must ask his parents to order; if the son wants to do something, he must inform his parents."
After listening to the emperor's words, Liu Yu pondered for a while, organizing his words there.
In the eyes of the emperor, the suzerain-vassal system was not a colonial system.But in terms of ethics, vassals cannot have their own diplomatic power.Generally speaking, China does not interfere in internal affairs.
However, even if they do not interfere in the internal affairs of the vassals, there is a bottom line.For example, North Korea and Japan's private exchanges before, from the perspective of the patriarchal system of the Celestial Dynasty, it is theoretically wrong.
The emperor was obviously worried that Westerners would not be able to understand, or would find it difficult to understand, so he brought Liu Yu to translate, hoping to explain clearly.
But in Liu Yu's view, the emperor was worrying too much.
This stuff, things that change the soup but not the medicine, the colonial system will go through a process similar to the suzerainty system sooner or later.
Westerners may not be able to understand Dashun's collection of classics and history, or the logic of Dashun's handling of affairs, but in terms of suzerainty and colonies, Westerners' methods can also be applied to the feudal patriarchal system.
Father, children, family.
They are all similar concepts.
Moreover, relatively speaking, the feudal patriarchal system is considered a relatively "advanced" system in the colonial system.
The classic poster for the British during World War I was a big lion with a group of cubs, symbolizing that the Commonwealth is a family where the father guides the sons. Under the leadership of the father, the sons and daughters must unite as one.
When the Japanese promoted the puppet Manchukuo and the "goodwill" between China and Japan, they used profound metaphors, such as a standard Chinese-style house hall, and the couplet said: Loyalty and filial piety are passed on far away.If the sun is the husband, the puppet Manchukuo will be the wife; if the sun is the father, the puppet Manchukuo will be the son.The three cardinal guides and the five constant principles, the husband guides the wife, must be loyal and filial, and the family and the country are of the same structure.
This is an inevitable trend after the nationalism gradually awakened after the legal revolution. If the old system could not survive, it had to be reformed and adopted the more advanced "feudal patriarchal clan".
Those around Dashun basically already had a simple national consciousness. As the suzerain country in East Asia, it is impossible to play with the current Western colonial system.
The tributary system before this was a bit like the Commonwealth system. The domestic and foreign affairs of the vassal states were independent, as long as the emperor was recognized as the common emperor.
But now, Dashun has taken a step back.It is required to take back the diplomatic power of the vassal state, and the internal affairs will not be too much controlled, but the control on trade will definitely be tightened.
On the one hand, private diplomacy between North Korea and Japan must be absolutely prohibited. On the other hand, it is necessary to delineate one's own sphere of influence, so that Westerners cannot be involved, and vassals and Westerners cannot be allowed to collude.
The emperor did not want the tributary suzerainty system to adopt the Western colonial system in terms of name, because the emperor was worried that "vassals would be surprised", thinking that Dashun would treat vassals the same way Western countries treat colonies, and even set up a governor to manage everything.
Even if Li Gan wanted to prefect Korea and northern Annan, he would leave it to future generations to do.Although he has an impatient temper, he also knows that it is too hasty to do it now, so he should continue to deepen his influence first, and use his previous experience in commercial control to gradually deepen his control.
But the emperor also hoped that Westerners would understand the suzerain-vassal system in accordance with the colonial system, which could be regarded as telling Westerners that you should not interfere with matters within the boundaries of the Celestial Dynasty.If you don’t understand what suzerainty system is, you can understand it as a special kind of colony, but it cannot be called a colony.
After Liu Yu explained as much as possible, in the end, he also tried his best to take care of these people's way of understanding, explaining from the perspective of feudal enfeoffment, it was easier to explain clearly.
The suzerain-vassal system is not the Shenluo state after the Treaty of Westphalia, and the vassal state has no independent diplomatic rights.
Just as Liu Yu expected, Westerners have a clear understanding of this feudal system. They have played feudalism themselves and know what it means to be a prince.As long as it is clear that the suzerain-vassal system is not the Shinra after the Westphalian system, it is almost the same.
The vassals did not have the right to choose their own religion.
The vassals do not have the power of independent diplomacy.
After the explanation was almost finished, the emperor saw that these Western envoys signaled that they understood, and said: "The Duke of Qi also said before that you have your saints, and we have our morality. We will not go to your place to spread the words of saints, You also don't want to spread your teachings within the celestial dynasty."
"I am happy to do business and communicate with each other. But if you preach, since the dynasty regards protecting the world as the most important thing, it is necessary to cut off exchanges, or even go to war."
"Keep it in your heart, don't say it's unexpected."
After the translation, the Dutch took the lead in finding out the loopholes that could be exploited in this set of theories, and asked: "If your tributary system is not a colony and a suzerain country, then diplomacy is controlled and the choice of religion is also controlled, but trade should not Controlled, isn't it?"
Obviously, the Dutch wanted to take advantage of Dashun's failure to recognize the tributary country as a colony, and asked them the most concerned trade issue.
After Liu Yu translated, the emperor smiled and said, "This is the internal affairs. The Customs Department has submitted a memorial. Please implement new policies."
"All goods coming from outside China must be reported for customs duties at the five treaty ports. If there are no customs duties at the five ports, it will be regarded as smuggling. Once discovered, it will be confiscated immediately."
"Secondly, imported goods that are not subject to customs duties can be sold within the Celestial Dynasty."
"Third, if the goods from China to North Korea, Japan, Ryukyu, and Annan are transported by ship, they must use ships manufactured by Chinese shipyards; their captains must be Chinese citizens; and more than [-]% of their sailors must be Chinese citizens; Its ships must be reported to the Customs Department and obtained permission from the Customs Department. Without one of them, neither will work.”
"This is an internal matter, not a foreign matter."
In fact, there are loopholes in this theory, for example, after declaring customs duties in Songjiang, you can go to North Korea by land... But besides the Customs Department, Dashun has other regulations. Squatting in the area demarcated by the port, the provincials steal information, survey and map, preach, or steal porcelain wire and other technologies everywhere.
Theoretically, if you use a ship built by a Chinese shipyard, hire Chinese captains and sailors, and report to the Customs Department, that's fine.But just like the people in the customs department before, even though they were greedy for money, they didn't have the guts to let war horses, firearms, and military books go to Japan.This is still the same thing as the above sentence.
If it is in other places, even if this set of things is proposed, it will not be implemented.Japan is surrounded by the sea, and smuggling cannot be prevented by Dashun patrols.
But as soon as Japan came to Japan, the country was locked up. If the shogunate wanted to continue to maintain the system, it could only continue to be in a state of "locking up the country but trading", just like the previous Nagasaki trade. It only excluded the Netherlands and only opened Gave it to Dashun.
Secondly, since smuggling is necessary anyway, it is better to directly include tariffs and establish a monopoly group to do it.The imperial court only needs to supervise the sale of weapons, and the rest depends on the ability of monopoly trading companies to investigate smuggling and catch pirates.
As for Annan, that's just going in first and then talking, just turn a blind eye and close one eye, anyway, I can't control it for the time being.
Therefore, this is really just an internal affair, an internal decree of the Celestial Dynasty.If you want to change internal laws, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is powerless.
Or, send gunboats to force Dashun to change the law.
After saying this, the British envoy first laughed in his heart, thinking, isn't this the oriental version of the "Navigation Regulations"?He quietly glanced at the Dutchman, smiled maliciously, and wanted to use his ability to fight against the "Navigation Regulations" in Europe, and start a war with Dashun!
(End of this chapter)
Everyone in the Western Missions stepped forward, following the court etiquette on Dashun's side.When Qi Guogong visited Europe, he did as the Romans did, and saluted the other party according to the local court etiquette.
This matter has become a rule, take it or leave, not so much nonsense.
After all, it is the crown of the Chinese Empire that is still standing firmly and can be knocked loudly at this time.Although Britain's annual revenue is close to two-thirds of Dashun's without India, it is still far behind.The rest are farther away.
As for the so-called etiquette, Westerners also understand what a hierarchy is, and they play it very well.
The Statue of Liberty, which was given to the United States by France, has a seven-pointed crown on its head.And France's own portrait of the Statue of Liberty, in the nineteenth century albums and posters, is the standard nine-pointed.As a designer, the French didn’t even know the seven awns and the metaphor of the seven continents. After all, the original author would never get full marks for reading comprehension.
In fact, it is quite similar to the fact that the emperor of Dashun himself wears twelve belts, and the king of Joseon County can only wear nine belts according to the etiquette of princes, which is a metaphor for father and son Gang Changer.The etiquette system and logic of this feudal society are almost the same all over the world. Kneeling on one leg and kneeling on two legs is just a formality.
The envoys present are all members of the noble circle, and those who don't understand the connotation of superiority and inferiority, there is no need to entangle in the issue of etiquette.
Liu Yu was twisting his neck to see the excitement and hear what the emperor was going to say to these people, but he didn't want the emperor to call his name.
"The Marquis of Whale is also coming to me. In the past, the Raksha State Book relied on the strength of Ai Qing, so as not to damage the state. Today, the matter is big, and there must be no mistakes in the translation."
"Yes, the minister is ordered."
After kneeling and saluting, Xiaobu walked to the side of the emperor, one on the left and one on the right of Guanglu Temple who presided over the banquet, Yuefu and dance.
In terms of translation level, Liu Yu's level is not bad, thanks to Dai Jinxian who taught him Latin for many years.Dai Jinxian was originally a missionary, and he also taught Liu Yu a lot of Confucian classics.
In the past few years, I have dealt with Westerners more, and I can speak some Russian and French, but there should be no envoys from various countries who do not understand Latin.
"Recently, I have been looking at the systems of other countries, and I heard that you talk about 'colonies'. From my point of view, the so-called colonies are nothing more than three or five kinds."
"Or like Zhou feudal world, Xia Jun barbarians. If the Dutch country is in Nanyang, there are Dutch people in the city, and local aborigines outside the city. The Dutch in the city are the countrymen, and the aborigines outside the city are savages. This is probably the case. The wisdom of the previous kings, given time, will be more It can be assimilated, with the same vulgarity, and with the same pronunciation.”
"Or it's like this dynasty immigrated to Liaodong and Jinghai. The population of the country migrated there, and the officials were set up just like the system of the country. The same language and the same species were set up by the governor. France is in America, which is probably the case."
"Or if the Han and Tang Dynasties defended the Western Regions and used barbarians to control the barbarians, some garrison troops in the capital guarded the government to instigate the barbarians and the diners to fight each other, and support the barbarians and the diners to be close to the Han and Tang. These methods can also be used in many ways."
"Besides these three, the rest of the methods can also be learned from history. There is nothing special about it."
"The suzerainty and vassal system of the celestial dynasty is different from the colonies. The celestial dynasty has its own system. If you can't understand it, you can understand it as 'family patriarchal law'."
"The Heavenly Dynasty is the father, and the rest are the sons. The son is the father's guide. When the son is in trouble, it is natural for the father to save him; when the son gets married, he must ask his parents to order; if the son wants to do something, he must inform his parents."
After listening to the emperor's words, Liu Yu pondered for a while, organizing his words there.
In the eyes of the emperor, the suzerain-vassal system was not a colonial system.But in terms of ethics, vassals cannot have their own diplomatic power.Generally speaking, China does not interfere in internal affairs.
However, even if they do not interfere in the internal affairs of the vassals, there is a bottom line.For example, North Korea and Japan's private exchanges before, from the perspective of the patriarchal system of the Celestial Dynasty, it is theoretically wrong.
The emperor was obviously worried that Westerners would not be able to understand, or would find it difficult to understand, so he brought Liu Yu to translate, hoping to explain clearly.
But in Liu Yu's view, the emperor was worrying too much.
This stuff, things that change the soup but not the medicine, the colonial system will go through a process similar to the suzerainty system sooner or later.
Westerners may not be able to understand Dashun's collection of classics and history, or the logic of Dashun's handling of affairs, but in terms of suzerainty and colonies, Westerners' methods can also be applied to the feudal patriarchal system.
Father, children, family.
They are all similar concepts.
Moreover, relatively speaking, the feudal patriarchal system is considered a relatively "advanced" system in the colonial system.
The classic poster for the British during World War I was a big lion with a group of cubs, symbolizing that the Commonwealth is a family where the father guides the sons. Under the leadership of the father, the sons and daughters must unite as one.
When the Japanese promoted the puppet Manchukuo and the "goodwill" between China and Japan, they used profound metaphors, such as a standard Chinese-style house hall, and the couplet said: Loyalty and filial piety are passed on far away.If the sun is the husband, the puppet Manchukuo will be the wife; if the sun is the father, the puppet Manchukuo will be the son.The three cardinal guides and the five constant principles, the husband guides the wife, must be loyal and filial, and the family and the country are of the same structure.
This is an inevitable trend after the nationalism gradually awakened after the legal revolution. If the old system could not survive, it had to be reformed and adopted the more advanced "feudal patriarchal clan".
Those around Dashun basically already had a simple national consciousness. As the suzerain country in East Asia, it is impossible to play with the current Western colonial system.
The tributary system before this was a bit like the Commonwealth system. The domestic and foreign affairs of the vassal states were independent, as long as the emperor was recognized as the common emperor.
But now, Dashun has taken a step back.It is required to take back the diplomatic power of the vassal state, and the internal affairs will not be too much controlled, but the control on trade will definitely be tightened.
On the one hand, private diplomacy between North Korea and Japan must be absolutely prohibited. On the other hand, it is necessary to delineate one's own sphere of influence, so that Westerners cannot be involved, and vassals and Westerners cannot be allowed to collude.
The emperor did not want the tributary suzerainty system to adopt the Western colonial system in terms of name, because the emperor was worried that "vassals would be surprised", thinking that Dashun would treat vassals the same way Western countries treat colonies, and even set up a governor to manage everything.
Even if Li Gan wanted to prefect Korea and northern Annan, he would leave it to future generations to do.Although he has an impatient temper, he also knows that it is too hasty to do it now, so he should continue to deepen his influence first, and use his previous experience in commercial control to gradually deepen his control.
But the emperor also hoped that Westerners would understand the suzerain-vassal system in accordance with the colonial system, which could be regarded as telling Westerners that you should not interfere with matters within the boundaries of the Celestial Dynasty.If you don’t understand what suzerainty system is, you can understand it as a special kind of colony, but it cannot be called a colony.
After Liu Yu explained as much as possible, in the end, he also tried his best to take care of these people's way of understanding, explaining from the perspective of feudal enfeoffment, it was easier to explain clearly.
The suzerain-vassal system is not the Shenluo state after the Treaty of Westphalia, and the vassal state has no independent diplomatic rights.
Just as Liu Yu expected, Westerners have a clear understanding of this feudal system. They have played feudalism themselves and know what it means to be a prince.As long as it is clear that the suzerain-vassal system is not the Shinra after the Westphalian system, it is almost the same.
The vassals did not have the right to choose their own religion.
The vassals do not have the power of independent diplomacy.
After the explanation was almost finished, the emperor saw that these Western envoys signaled that they understood, and said: "The Duke of Qi also said before that you have your saints, and we have our morality. We will not go to your place to spread the words of saints, You also don't want to spread your teachings within the celestial dynasty."
"I am happy to do business and communicate with each other. But if you preach, since the dynasty regards protecting the world as the most important thing, it is necessary to cut off exchanges, or even go to war."
"Keep it in your heart, don't say it's unexpected."
After the translation, the Dutch took the lead in finding out the loopholes that could be exploited in this set of theories, and asked: "If your tributary system is not a colony and a suzerain country, then diplomacy is controlled and the choice of religion is also controlled, but trade should not Controlled, isn't it?"
Obviously, the Dutch wanted to take advantage of Dashun's failure to recognize the tributary country as a colony, and asked them the most concerned trade issue.
After Liu Yu translated, the emperor smiled and said, "This is the internal affairs. The Customs Department has submitted a memorial. Please implement new policies."
"All goods coming from outside China must be reported for customs duties at the five treaty ports. If there are no customs duties at the five ports, it will be regarded as smuggling. Once discovered, it will be confiscated immediately."
"Secondly, imported goods that are not subject to customs duties can be sold within the Celestial Dynasty."
"Third, if the goods from China to North Korea, Japan, Ryukyu, and Annan are transported by ship, they must use ships manufactured by Chinese shipyards; their captains must be Chinese citizens; and more than [-]% of their sailors must be Chinese citizens; Its ships must be reported to the Customs Department and obtained permission from the Customs Department. Without one of them, neither will work.”
"This is an internal matter, not a foreign matter."
In fact, there are loopholes in this theory, for example, after declaring customs duties in Songjiang, you can go to North Korea by land... But besides the Customs Department, Dashun has other regulations. Squatting in the area demarcated by the port, the provincials steal information, survey and map, preach, or steal porcelain wire and other technologies everywhere.
Theoretically, if you use a ship built by a Chinese shipyard, hire Chinese captains and sailors, and report to the Customs Department, that's fine.But just like the people in the customs department before, even though they were greedy for money, they didn't have the guts to let war horses, firearms, and military books go to Japan.This is still the same thing as the above sentence.
If it is in other places, even if this set of things is proposed, it will not be implemented.Japan is surrounded by the sea, and smuggling cannot be prevented by Dashun patrols.
But as soon as Japan came to Japan, the country was locked up. If the shogunate wanted to continue to maintain the system, it could only continue to be in a state of "locking up the country but trading", just like the previous Nagasaki trade. It only excluded the Netherlands and only opened Gave it to Dashun.
Secondly, since smuggling is necessary anyway, it is better to directly include tariffs and establish a monopoly group to do it.The imperial court only needs to supervise the sale of weapons, and the rest depends on the ability of monopoly trading companies to investigate smuggling and catch pirates.
As for Annan, that's just going in first and then talking, just turn a blind eye and close one eye, anyway, I can't control it for the time being.
Therefore, this is really just an internal affair, an internal decree of the Celestial Dynasty.If you want to change internal laws, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is powerless.
Or, send gunboats to force Dashun to change the law.
After saying this, the British envoy first laughed in his heart, thinking, isn't this the oriental version of the "Navigation Regulations"?He quietly glanced at the Dutchman, smiled maliciously, and wanted to use his ability to fight against the "Navigation Regulations" in Europe, and start a war with Dashun!
(End of this chapter)
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