Xinshun 1730
Chapter 511 is still the mode of rent collection
Chapter 511 is still the mode of rent collection
"After all, the imperial court is not a businessman. Some things may not be handled well by the imperial court."
"The reverse is also the same. A gentleman seeks justice, a villain seeks profit, some seek fame, and some seek wealth. From the perspective of businessmen, you think that if you make so much money, the court will definitely run it officially. But when the court considers the problem, how can it only do it?" What about money?"
In this way, the wealthy businessmen also feel that there is some truth.
After all, the imperial court is not a businessman, and cannot always think about making money.This dynasty also somewhat means that the wealth of the world manages the world. Although it is only a little bit, there is no feudal vassal king who uses the wealth of the world to support his heirs.
As far as the imperial court is concerned, if there is less money spent in some places, it will cost hundreds of millions more in the future.Such as disaster relief, repairing embankments.
In some places, even if you can't make money, or even lose money, in fact, it will turn around in the long run.Such as immigration, real border.
Moreover, with the means of the government, the Jingdezhen Ciyao in the previous dynasty caused a lot of trouble.In addition, Dashun also lost its household registration as a craftsman, so the imperial court did not have a government-run industrial and commercial force.Coupled with the fact that it is government-run in this era, it is easy to go wrong.
In the past, the imperial court was short of copper for making money. Before the copper mines in Yunnan were developed and the roads for transporting copper were not repaired, they also organized a model of "the imperial court contributed money and the merchants contributed". As for the trade in Japan, after all, Japan has always refused to contact Dashun's official trade. The imperial court is thinking about giving money to the merchants to do it, and it can save some profits that the merchants want to make.
The result can be imagined.
Since then, the court has also understood that some things are well thought out and look good, but in practice, the result is completely different from what was expected.
Dashun was neither able nor capable of repeating the level of government-run economic control in the Song Dynasty.
Thinking of this, these businessmen became more convinced.Attention was once again focused on the various development plans and returns on the scroll.
Liu Yu knew that after the South China Sea bubble exploded in the UK, he was not allowed to set up similar joint-stock companies for more than a hundred years. Once bitten by a snake, he was afraid of well ropes for ten years.
Dashun had to be more careful. It was a new thing, and there were still many people in the court who were cautious and skeptical.If something goes wrong, a large-scale financial incident or a mass incident occurs, the UK can ban the joint-stock system for a hundred years, and Dashun may directly dig the roots.
Therefore, most of the "big pie" here is still true.
After the "PPT" was fully displayed, the businessmen discussed in whispers.
"If you want me to say, what Jinghou said is right. The profit here is really not small. You won't lose money in the early stage, just rely on those fish, shrimp and aquatic products, and sell them to Japan, and you will get back your money in three to five years. It's profitable."
"Yeah, a few days ago, I read a book introducing the Japanese kingdom. It is said that the king of the Japanese believed in Buddhism, and he issued an order of pity for living creatures, and he was not allowed to eat meat. This is like a monk. Meat is not allowed, but this tofu is eaten. The Japanese have to buy a lot of salted fish and so on. The Japanese country has a lot of gold and silver, and it is true that they can earn it in the early stage."
Some businessmen have nothing to do on weekdays and read books about the Wa Kingdom.Some read it impromptu after hearing the news that Ezo was to be developed.
No matter when you read it, reading it is better than not reading it.
After discussing for a while, they all felt that there should be no problem, so they discussed the specific details again.
The whole plan is an immigration development plan similar to a multiple growth, because there were hundreds of people staying there before, so it can be regarded as having some foundation.In addition to this time when sending troops, Du Feng blackmailed and robbed a large amount of food from the Sendai ship, which was also piled up in Ezo, and there was no shortage of food.
If you sell it to a merchant at a discount, you don't have to be afraid that the merchant will sell it back. After all, the grain trade in Japan cannot be done without Liu Yu's help, and if you transport it back to the capital to sell it, you may lose your life.
Relying on the foundation laid before, the first tentative plan is to immigrate 3000 people, including more than 500 fishermen.
These people have to build houses in the first year and reclaim part of the land to ensure enough food and clothing.As long as you have worked for the company for 15 years, you can get 20 mu of mature land and 80 mu of barren land, plus some farm tools and seeds, which are basically considered contract slave labor, and you can sell your labor for the next 15 years at once. , Gambling on the future of a cow on a hundred acres of land that is unthinkable in his hometown.
In the future, the land rent will be paid at the rate of three out of ten, which is higher than the per-mu tax of Dashun official land, but lower than the rent collected by the landlord.
From the second year onwards, it is necessary to gradually increase the manpower, and after three to five years, the number of immigrants will be guaranteed to be about [-] to [-] to [-] per year.
Ensure that within 20 years, there will be more than [-] Central Plains immigrants in Ezo.
On the whole, it can be regarded as the same as the "merchant pays money to cultivate the land and recognizes that the rent of the merchant is reasonable" in Japan.
It's just that on Dashun's side, perhaps since the Qin and Han Dynasties, land leases have been allowed.A similar approach would cause some discussions in Japan, thinking that this is the beginning of the collapse of etiquette; but in Dashun, there will be no too many troubles.
Merchants have also read the experience of the Virginia Company, plus the customs of Dashun, and basically agree with this model of "renting the land after contracted slave labor works".
Liu Yu added: "This matter, the court will still supervise in the future. You also know the methods of the court and the status of the merchants. As the saying goes, the court will clearly say what should be said. What can be done, what not to do."
"Since it is said that the liability is limited and the company is a person, then if an individual makes a mistake, it is the individual's responsibility; if the entire company is a person, it also violates the law, and the court will take action."
"There are some things that you all know in your heart. How to extract more money is something every businessman has to think about."
"For example, in some Western countries, in order to export food, the land is merged. After the merger, the people can only work as hired labor, and each person only has a small piece of land as a private field. The private field grows some potatoes, and the rest is to work in the big fields to earn hired labor. Commissions sustain life."
"This kind of situation can be understood in the West. After all, their laws are different. But if it is in this dynasty, you also know that when Wang Jinggong reformed, someone posted a picture of refugees. If this kind of thing really happened in this dynasty, someone would also write a letter outlawed."
"The imperial court emphasizes agriculture and suppresses business. On the one hand, agriculture is the foundation of the country. On the other hand, from the perspective of successive dynasties, businessmen really have no benevolence and justice, and only seek profits."
"Other things are fine. We really need to be cautious when it comes to the field. That's why the development of Ezo will continue to be rented in the future. It's just that private people are not allowed to buy or sell, and they are not allowed to sublease."
He gave an example of the Great Famine in Ireland, which had not yet happened at this time. Anyway, no one can say that this has not yet happened at this time. On the contrary, the matter itself is smooth and easy to understand.
Fortunately, Ezo is different from Ireland and Britain.In the UK, people have lived for thousands of years. Landlords took back their land to operate, and they drove to the cities without so many people.
In terms of population ratio, Britain has a population of 800 million at this time.At the peak of the enclosure, about 4 people were expelled every year. Some of them went to the Americas to earn a living, and some went to workshops and factories to endure 16 hours a day. They missed the days of being farmers very much.
800 to 100 million, about [-]/[-].On the side of Dashun, based on the population of [-] million in the elite area, [-] million people have to be expelled every year to become refugees.
Liu Yu can't guarantee it in other places, but in Dashun, whoever dares to introduce policies can create refugees with a population of 100 million a year... Not to mention Dashun, it is impossible even if the industry and commerce in the world are combined at this time Accommodate 100 million new jobs every year.
Some policies cannot be copied. The good thing about Ezo is that the aborigines there basically don’t have to think about it. They can set up a large-scale grain plantation model, or a contracted land allocation model to pay rent and taxes.
The former is easy to cause big troubles. Businessmen are not philanthropists, and they will not give good treatment to those farm workers who have nothing.If there were any troubles, I'm afraid the conservatives in Dashun would take the opportunity to speak out again.
The latter is actually similar in terms of profit.What Liu Yu did in Vladivostok is the latter model, but the problem is that he controls the grain pricing power and export channels, and can keep the grain price extremely low. Channel monopoly, monopoly of consumer goods, etc., are actually about [-]% or even [-]% of the rent.
Since the profits are about the same, in the view of the conservatives inside Dashun, the latter is more "benevolent and righteous", so it is better to use the latter model first, and set up family farms instead of large-scale farms and plantations.
Facing these businessmen, Liu Yu explained very thoroughly, and even explained the advantages and disadvantages of the two different models through the booklet.
With the development of the handicraft industry, these businessmen who have seen big scenes have of course seen the model of "funding by machine owners and contribution by mechanics".The transformation of the textile industry into agriculture is not a change of medicine. Naturally, one understands what is called a large farm grain plantation model, and also understands that the biggest dream of all those who do "mechanical work" at this time is to have a loom for themselves. , and then profit from spinning, buy more looms, and become the "machine investor".
Xiangzi Luotuo in later novels is a very standard kind of person who dreams of owning a car when he doesn’t have a car, and dreams of driving by himself when he has a car.At this time, most of the tenants are also the same, thinking about collecting three or five buckets more, buying a few acres of land, renting out more land to others in the future, and becoming landlords themselves.
In this era, no one dreams of being a worker, but the lower class all dream of living a life of men farming and women weaving. Being a farmer is the most common dream of the bottom class.
If you want to recruit people and recruit enough people who are willing to go, you can only adopt this model.
Seeing that Liu Yu even said such things as "monopolizing channels and lowering food prices", the merchants smiled knowingly, thinking that there are really people in the court who dare to speak the truth so directly.
This kind of truth-telling person is easier to deal with than that kind of person who talks about benevolence and righteousness, and whose stomach is full of business.
Some people who were still on the sidelines, after saying these few words, completely calmed down and decided to fight.
After quietly listening to Liu Yu's talk about the development system of Ezo, and the distribution of rights and responsibilities after the company's anthropomorphism, everyone has no doubts.
Someone said: "Jinghou is well-prepared, and this place is a sea of whales. Why don't you be the company's... Uh, what's the name? What Jinghou said just now... Oh, yes, the representative of the legal person?"
(End of this chapter)
"After all, the imperial court is not a businessman. Some things may not be handled well by the imperial court."
"The reverse is also the same. A gentleman seeks justice, a villain seeks profit, some seek fame, and some seek wealth. From the perspective of businessmen, you think that if you make so much money, the court will definitely run it officially. But when the court considers the problem, how can it only do it?" What about money?"
In this way, the wealthy businessmen also feel that there is some truth.
After all, the imperial court is not a businessman, and cannot always think about making money.This dynasty also somewhat means that the wealth of the world manages the world. Although it is only a little bit, there is no feudal vassal king who uses the wealth of the world to support his heirs.
As far as the imperial court is concerned, if there is less money spent in some places, it will cost hundreds of millions more in the future.Such as disaster relief, repairing embankments.
In some places, even if you can't make money, or even lose money, in fact, it will turn around in the long run.Such as immigration, real border.
Moreover, with the means of the government, the Jingdezhen Ciyao in the previous dynasty caused a lot of trouble.In addition, Dashun also lost its household registration as a craftsman, so the imperial court did not have a government-run industrial and commercial force.Coupled with the fact that it is government-run in this era, it is easy to go wrong.
In the past, the imperial court was short of copper for making money. Before the copper mines in Yunnan were developed and the roads for transporting copper were not repaired, they also organized a model of "the imperial court contributed money and the merchants contributed". As for the trade in Japan, after all, Japan has always refused to contact Dashun's official trade. The imperial court is thinking about giving money to the merchants to do it, and it can save some profits that the merchants want to make.
The result can be imagined.
Since then, the court has also understood that some things are well thought out and look good, but in practice, the result is completely different from what was expected.
Dashun was neither able nor capable of repeating the level of government-run economic control in the Song Dynasty.
Thinking of this, these businessmen became more convinced.Attention was once again focused on the various development plans and returns on the scroll.
Liu Yu knew that after the South China Sea bubble exploded in the UK, he was not allowed to set up similar joint-stock companies for more than a hundred years. Once bitten by a snake, he was afraid of well ropes for ten years.
Dashun had to be more careful. It was a new thing, and there were still many people in the court who were cautious and skeptical.If something goes wrong, a large-scale financial incident or a mass incident occurs, the UK can ban the joint-stock system for a hundred years, and Dashun may directly dig the roots.
Therefore, most of the "big pie" here is still true.
After the "PPT" was fully displayed, the businessmen discussed in whispers.
"If you want me to say, what Jinghou said is right. The profit here is really not small. You won't lose money in the early stage, just rely on those fish, shrimp and aquatic products, and sell them to Japan, and you will get back your money in three to five years. It's profitable."
"Yeah, a few days ago, I read a book introducing the Japanese kingdom. It is said that the king of the Japanese believed in Buddhism, and he issued an order of pity for living creatures, and he was not allowed to eat meat. This is like a monk. Meat is not allowed, but this tofu is eaten. The Japanese have to buy a lot of salted fish and so on. The Japanese country has a lot of gold and silver, and it is true that they can earn it in the early stage."
Some businessmen have nothing to do on weekdays and read books about the Wa Kingdom.Some read it impromptu after hearing the news that Ezo was to be developed.
No matter when you read it, reading it is better than not reading it.
After discussing for a while, they all felt that there should be no problem, so they discussed the specific details again.
The whole plan is an immigration development plan similar to a multiple growth, because there were hundreds of people staying there before, so it can be regarded as having some foundation.In addition to this time when sending troops, Du Feng blackmailed and robbed a large amount of food from the Sendai ship, which was also piled up in Ezo, and there was no shortage of food.
If you sell it to a merchant at a discount, you don't have to be afraid that the merchant will sell it back. After all, the grain trade in Japan cannot be done without Liu Yu's help, and if you transport it back to the capital to sell it, you may lose your life.
Relying on the foundation laid before, the first tentative plan is to immigrate 3000 people, including more than 500 fishermen.
These people have to build houses in the first year and reclaim part of the land to ensure enough food and clothing.As long as you have worked for the company for 15 years, you can get 20 mu of mature land and 80 mu of barren land, plus some farm tools and seeds, which are basically considered contract slave labor, and you can sell your labor for the next 15 years at once. , Gambling on the future of a cow on a hundred acres of land that is unthinkable in his hometown.
In the future, the land rent will be paid at the rate of three out of ten, which is higher than the per-mu tax of Dashun official land, but lower than the rent collected by the landlord.
From the second year onwards, it is necessary to gradually increase the manpower, and after three to five years, the number of immigrants will be guaranteed to be about [-] to [-] to [-] per year.
Ensure that within 20 years, there will be more than [-] Central Plains immigrants in Ezo.
On the whole, it can be regarded as the same as the "merchant pays money to cultivate the land and recognizes that the rent of the merchant is reasonable" in Japan.
It's just that on Dashun's side, perhaps since the Qin and Han Dynasties, land leases have been allowed.A similar approach would cause some discussions in Japan, thinking that this is the beginning of the collapse of etiquette; but in Dashun, there will be no too many troubles.
Merchants have also read the experience of the Virginia Company, plus the customs of Dashun, and basically agree with this model of "renting the land after contracted slave labor works".
Liu Yu added: "This matter, the court will still supervise in the future. You also know the methods of the court and the status of the merchants. As the saying goes, the court will clearly say what should be said. What can be done, what not to do."
"Since it is said that the liability is limited and the company is a person, then if an individual makes a mistake, it is the individual's responsibility; if the entire company is a person, it also violates the law, and the court will take action."
"There are some things that you all know in your heart. How to extract more money is something every businessman has to think about."
"For example, in some Western countries, in order to export food, the land is merged. After the merger, the people can only work as hired labor, and each person only has a small piece of land as a private field. The private field grows some potatoes, and the rest is to work in the big fields to earn hired labor. Commissions sustain life."
"This kind of situation can be understood in the West. After all, their laws are different. But if it is in this dynasty, you also know that when Wang Jinggong reformed, someone posted a picture of refugees. If this kind of thing really happened in this dynasty, someone would also write a letter outlawed."
"The imperial court emphasizes agriculture and suppresses business. On the one hand, agriculture is the foundation of the country. On the other hand, from the perspective of successive dynasties, businessmen really have no benevolence and justice, and only seek profits."
"Other things are fine. We really need to be cautious when it comes to the field. That's why the development of Ezo will continue to be rented in the future. It's just that private people are not allowed to buy or sell, and they are not allowed to sublease."
He gave an example of the Great Famine in Ireland, which had not yet happened at this time. Anyway, no one can say that this has not yet happened at this time. On the contrary, the matter itself is smooth and easy to understand.
Fortunately, Ezo is different from Ireland and Britain.In the UK, people have lived for thousands of years. Landlords took back their land to operate, and they drove to the cities without so many people.
In terms of population ratio, Britain has a population of 800 million at this time.At the peak of the enclosure, about 4 people were expelled every year. Some of them went to the Americas to earn a living, and some went to workshops and factories to endure 16 hours a day. They missed the days of being farmers very much.
800 to 100 million, about [-]/[-].On the side of Dashun, based on the population of [-] million in the elite area, [-] million people have to be expelled every year to become refugees.
Liu Yu can't guarantee it in other places, but in Dashun, whoever dares to introduce policies can create refugees with a population of 100 million a year... Not to mention Dashun, it is impossible even if the industry and commerce in the world are combined at this time Accommodate 100 million new jobs every year.
Some policies cannot be copied. The good thing about Ezo is that the aborigines there basically don’t have to think about it. They can set up a large-scale grain plantation model, or a contracted land allocation model to pay rent and taxes.
The former is easy to cause big troubles. Businessmen are not philanthropists, and they will not give good treatment to those farm workers who have nothing.If there were any troubles, I'm afraid the conservatives in Dashun would take the opportunity to speak out again.
The latter is actually similar in terms of profit.What Liu Yu did in Vladivostok is the latter model, but the problem is that he controls the grain pricing power and export channels, and can keep the grain price extremely low. Channel monopoly, monopoly of consumer goods, etc., are actually about [-]% or even [-]% of the rent.
Since the profits are about the same, in the view of the conservatives inside Dashun, the latter is more "benevolent and righteous", so it is better to use the latter model first, and set up family farms instead of large-scale farms and plantations.
Facing these businessmen, Liu Yu explained very thoroughly, and even explained the advantages and disadvantages of the two different models through the booklet.
With the development of the handicraft industry, these businessmen who have seen big scenes have of course seen the model of "funding by machine owners and contribution by mechanics".The transformation of the textile industry into agriculture is not a change of medicine. Naturally, one understands what is called a large farm grain plantation model, and also understands that the biggest dream of all those who do "mechanical work" at this time is to have a loom for themselves. , and then profit from spinning, buy more looms, and become the "machine investor".
Xiangzi Luotuo in later novels is a very standard kind of person who dreams of owning a car when he doesn’t have a car, and dreams of driving by himself when he has a car.At this time, most of the tenants are also the same, thinking about collecting three or five buckets more, buying a few acres of land, renting out more land to others in the future, and becoming landlords themselves.
In this era, no one dreams of being a worker, but the lower class all dream of living a life of men farming and women weaving. Being a farmer is the most common dream of the bottom class.
If you want to recruit people and recruit enough people who are willing to go, you can only adopt this model.
Seeing that Liu Yu even said such things as "monopolizing channels and lowering food prices", the merchants smiled knowingly, thinking that there are really people in the court who dare to speak the truth so directly.
This kind of truth-telling person is easier to deal with than that kind of person who talks about benevolence and righteousness, and whose stomach is full of business.
Some people who were still on the sidelines, after saying these few words, completely calmed down and decided to fight.
After quietly listening to Liu Yu's talk about the development system of Ezo, and the distribution of rights and responsibilities after the company's anthropomorphism, everyone has no doubts.
Someone said: "Jinghou is well-prepared, and this place is a sea of whales. Why don't you be the company's... Uh, what's the name? What Jinghou said just now... Oh, yes, the representative of the legal person?"
(End of this chapter)
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