Xinshun 1730
Chapter 564 Where is the road
Chapter 564 Where is the road
Just like the images of Europe and the United States that were handed down to China in later generations, they are just the ghosts of the sages in the Enlightenment Age.
But not really, the pinnacle of capitalist magic since monopoly imperialism.
Fragmented souls, unreal filters, condensed into simple rationality, rule of law, benevolent government, and people-oriented.
so tempting.
But for Liu Yu, who has personally experienced, seen, and touched the whole soul instead of the fragments, he is clear about what Dashun is like.
If it is bad, it is better than Britain and France at this time, but only those who have not seen the future will choose to compare bad.
The utopia borrowed by the French for the souls of the pre-Qin philosophers is not bound to Catholicism.
However, the feudal rule of France is bound to the Catholic priest church, so this ideal country can oppose everything in the old era, especially the church that has been distorted into an accomplice.
This system is bound together with kingship, nobility, and feudal landlords.But the Utopia, the soul of the pre-Qin philosophers, opposes all of this.
The rule of the Three Dynasties in Dashun's books has been talked about by Taoism, Mohism and Confucianism, but now it is bound to the teaching and legalization of Confucianism.
Just as Kang Bushao said, fabricating new theories is very simple. Daomo's words can be compiled, and the fragments can be deconstructed.
But Confucianism, which has been dominated by one family for more than a thousand years and has many theories, cannot be compiled, because it is not a fragment, but a complete system.This system is bound together with imperial power, landlords and scholar-bureaucrats.A few words and fragments of leftover souls are good. A few words of Confucianism are out of the system, and every sentence is a classic, and every sentence has a philosophy, but after being distorted into the jurisprudence system of feudal rule, it will change the taste.
The greatness of Rome lies in the fact that Rome is dead, utterly dead.
Similarly, the allure and beauty of Taoism, Mohism, Fa, Nong, etc. lies in the fact that they are dead and completely dead.
If still alive, it may also be twisted into a bird-like, even more reactionary.
The dead are more useful than the living, but the practice of resurrecting the soul with a dead body does not work in Dashun.
Confucianism, law, ink, and Taoism, even if the word "utility" is also used, one can tell at a glance which sect the core belongs to.
No matter how it is changed, the orthodoxy of Confucianism cannot be changed, so now Dashun has been broken for decades and has not been established. Cheng Zhu Neo Confucianism has been broken, but the new one still cannot be established.
If the most difficult step cannot be passed, then Dashun may... probably have to go the way of France again - after many years, a Utopia appeared outside, and the Chinese Empire has fallen and lost its pride. In the Utopia outside, a vigorous, French-style thunderstorm swept away everything.
This is not impossible, but the prerequisite "degradation and loss of self-confidence" itself is a terrible tragedy.
Because even now, Dashun still has the capital to be absolutely proud.
He talks about diplomacy, but in his heart he still has the mentality of being a barbarian in China.This is true regardless of trade, surplus, silver stock, population, handicraft development, cities in the south of the Yangtze River, etc.
How miserable does it take to achieve the condition of being degraded and losing self-confidence?The arrogance and self-confidence of the Celestial Dynasty in history was not destroyed by one crow and two crows, but by the Sino-Japanese War. It was destroyed by the Japanese country, which was once looked down upon, and how could it win?Everything in that dynasty is really over, break it and start over.
"You can't go this way."
Thinking of the terrible tragedy in his heart, Liu Yu secretly warned himself.
The emperor's attitude has been very clear. Going to Nanyang is not a problem, but after going to Nanyang, it is very likely that there will be a trade in Malacca.
Relying on Dashun's maritime merchants and private forces, it is already the limit to go to Malacca and India.
This is not a question of whether to open the sea or to ban the sea, but that there are monopoly companies in Europe, with the power of the state behind them, and all countries have tariff protection.
Even if the imperial court encourages overseas trade while promoting trade, that is useless.If the imperial court does not end, private forces cannot beat monopoly companies at all.
With Dashun's current sailing level, can a few merchant ships go to Europe?Of course.
But after going there, Hong Kong is no longer reliable.People will not allow you to call in Hong Kong at all.
The monopoly power of the East India Company allows you to enter Hong Kong to sell goods just because you open the sea to encourage trade?It's not a real father, this is wishful thinking, and the way of thinking is similar to that of Japanese gamblers.
Unless the court personally ends.
But where and how far the imperial court, or the emperor, can go is a question.
Now the emperor supports Nanyang, which is of course good, Liu Yu can be a great loyal minister.
When one day the emperor does not want to go forward and becomes an obstacle—if the court does not end, even encouraging the people to go to sea is useless, so as long as the army and the treasury are not supported, it is an obstacle—then we can only remove this obstacle. get rid of.
Maybe the next emperor will still be an expansionist, maybe the next emperor will still be a Mingjun.
However, Liu Yu didn't want to pin her hopes on the word "possible".
If it is not possible, he must ensure that this obstacle can be removed.
Expansion is outside, change is inside.
Between inside and outside, complement each other.
To smash the old forces internally requires a force that is not rentier landlords and scholar-bureaucrats.
If this force is to be strong enough to fight against the old forces, it needs the market to feed them and grow them up.
The internal market needs to smash the old forces to expand; and to smash the old forces requires the new forces to be strong enough.
This is an endless loop, and we can only find breakthroughs from the outside.
Therefore, if it cannot be done internally, it can only be expanded externally.
Japan plus Nanyang, the market seems to be big enough, but compared to the size of Dashun and the strength of the old forces inside Dashun, it is still too small.
It is impossible to feed out a force that is strong enough to smash the old forces.
So it is not enough, and a larger external market is needed.
As for the larger external market, it is necessary to prepare for a full-scale conflict with Britain, France, Portugal and Spain.The East India Company is a monopoly company, and they paid money to get the monopoly rights, and they are not the relatives of Dashun maritime merchants. Of course, they will not allow Dashun maritime merchants to sell goods in their sphere of influence just because Dashun opened sea trade. .
What Dashun lacked was not primitive accumulation. Hundreds of years of silk and porcelain trade had already saved enough silver as starting capital.
There is no shortage of people, there is no need for land enclosures, and after the poll tax was abolished, groups of refugees went to the cities to make a living.
What is missing is the subsequent capital accumulation, that is, the market.And in the process of capital proliferation, a new class that is gradually raised and capable of destroying the old era.
The whole difficulty lies in "bringing up", or what Liu Yu and Kang Bushao said at the beginning, "protecting the fire will never go out".
If someone from the new force is Chai.And enlightenment thought is fire.Both are indispensable.
Once the old forces want to extinguish the fire and take away the firewood, the new forces must be able to win when the old forces counterattack.
The European style cannot be copied, so what should we do with the Enlightenment Movement with Dashun’s characteristics?Where is the breaking point?
Kang Buxio said that Dashun has its own national conditions, and the entry point should be on the rule of the three generations. It cannot be a rational utopia, and it can only hold high the banner of the retro, and change the rule of the three generations and the righteousness of Confucianism.
In fact, Liu Yu also thought about it this way, and he also understood that the situation in Dashun cannot be copied from what France is doing now.
But Kang Bushi himself said it was extremely difficult, and he couldn't find a point where he could get in.
This made Liu Yu very upset.
Is this direction basically correct, but I and Kang Bushao and other confidantes have limited abilities and haven't found an entry point?
Or... this direction is wrong, so I can't find the entry point?
If it's the former, that's fine.Once the foundation is laid, there will be a strong man and a half-sage to comment on the scriptures to solve the problem.
But if it's the latter, the trouble will be big.
Liu Yu had always been convinced that this direction was basically correct, but maybe it was because of these things that he experienced today, or maybe it was because Liu Yu was frightened by hearing that Voltaire was praised too highly, which made him a little shaken and doubtful.
After a long silence, Kang Buxiu also noticed that something was wrong with Liu Yu, and asked in a low voice, "My lord thinks what I said is wrong? Or is it that stones from other mountains may not be able to attack jade?"
Liu Yu frowned hard, and shook his head: "It's not wrong. You also know that Dashun has its own national conditions, but what is the difference between Dashun and other countries? You just heard me and know a thing or two. Even Japan, and There are thousands of differences in this dynasty, and as for Europa, the difference is even greater."
"I'm thinking why we can only learn from history? Because we are different from others, we can only learn from our own history. If we use others, we must first become someone else's shape. So now when we can't learn from history, we just It is difficult to cross the river by feeling the stones.”
"This time I went to Europa and saw it with my own eyes. It is also clear which are the stones from other mountains that can be used for jade;
"This time, the imperial court also sent people. His Majesty felt that my eyes could only see the good, so he sent a team with two eyes to focus on the bad."
"Your Majesty will understand if you want to listen at the same time. This is a little troublesome."
Speaking of this, Liu Yu also smiled awkwardly and said: "What I did before is actually similar to what Voltaire did. They all monopolize the voice channel and say what they want to say. Anyway, most people have never done it. country. It may be part of the truth, but not the whole of it.”
"Now that the dynasty is diplomatic, the situation where I alone monopolize the information from the outside is gone. Those things that make the emperor feel terrible outside will also come in."
"You want to observe the future chaos in the Western countries to learn from it. But... the emperor will also stare at it."
Kang Bulao comforted: "Young master, don't worry, this matter is not as terrible as you think."
"How to say?"
"Hahahaha...Young master, you should know that the country is ruled by virtue, and the court is superior to the law. Those who focus on the bad, what do you think they will look at?"
"Aren't you just like Arai Shiraishi of the Japanese country, staring at morality, etiquette, and habits, angrily denouncing the customs of the barbarians, which is ridiculous. When you do things, you have to investigate deeply and look for the people. You think you are going to find bad people, Will it be the same as the young master? The young master is judging others by himself."
After finishing speaking, Kang Bushao laughed again: "My lord, you must know that looking for disadvantages, if you don't pay attention, you will become looking for superiority. If your majesty really thinks about it, the people who should be sent should have received the emperor's education. Educational prince, go and see those terrible things. But His Majesty sent someone who knows the etiquette, this is not... hehe."
"I dare say that after I came back, most of the things I talked about were [men and women living together, shameless] and the like. You really think they can do social surveys and see really scary things?"
"They haven't learned this at all, how could they see these things?"
"Young master's set of things can be taken for granted when used. But what the young master takes for granted may not be taken for granted by others."
"At the beginning, the old duke said that the young master didn't read books and couldn't know himself and the enemy. He advised the young master to read the scriptures once. When he read it, he forgot everything he had learned before. Only by understanding what those people think is the only way to understand their thinking. The young master didn't listen. , that’s why I’m worried now.”
Hearing that Kang Buxio said so optimistically, Liu Yu hesitantly nodded and shook his head, and said after a while, "I hope so."
Kang Buxiu said firmly: "It's not that I hope so, but it is so. Those things in the young master's mind can wash away what I have learned before, which makes me take it seriously. But those things I learned before cannot be washed away. Something in the boy's head."
"So, you may not be able to understand some things that I can understand. On this point, you still have to believe me. If you don't believe me, let's wait and see."
(End of this chapter)
Just like the images of Europe and the United States that were handed down to China in later generations, they are just the ghosts of the sages in the Enlightenment Age.
But not really, the pinnacle of capitalist magic since monopoly imperialism.
Fragmented souls, unreal filters, condensed into simple rationality, rule of law, benevolent government, and people-oriented.
so tempting.
But for Liu Yu, who has personally experienced, seen, and touched the whole soul instead of the fragments, he is clear about what Dashun is like.
If it is bad, it is better than Britain and France at this time, but only those who have not seen the future will choose to compare bad.
The utopia borrowed by the French for the souls of the pre-Qin philosophers is not bound to Catholicism.
However, the feudal rule of France is bound to the Catholic priest church, so this ideal country can oppose everything in the old era, especially the church that has been distorted into an accomplice.
This system is bound together with kingship, nobility, and feudal landlords.But the Utopia, the soul of the pre-Qin philosophers, opposes all of this.
The rule of the Three Dynasties in Dashun's books has been talked about by Taoism, Mohism and Confucianism, but now it is bound to the teaching and legalization of Confucianism.
Just as Kang Bushao said, fabricating new theories is very simple. Daomo's words can be compiled, and the fragments can be deconstructed.
But Confucianism, which has been dominated by one family for more than a thousand years and has many theories, cannot be compiled, because it is not a fragment, but a complete system.This system is bound together with imperial power, landlords and scholar-bureaucrats.A few words and fragments of leftover souls are good. A few words of Confucianism are out of the system, and every sentence is a classic, and every sentence has a philosophy, but after being distorted into the jurisprudence system of feudal rule, it will change the taste.
The greatness of Rome lies in the fact that Rome is dead, utterly dead.
Similarly, the allure and beauty of Taoism, Mohism, Fa, Nong, etc. lies in the fact that they are dead and completely dead.
If still alive, it may also be twisted into a bird-like, even more reactionary.
The dead are more useful than the living, but the practice of resurrecting the soul with a dead body does not work in Dashun.
Confucianism, law, ink, and Taoism, even if the word "utility" is also used, one can tell at a glance which sect the core belongs to.
No matter how it is changed, the orthodoxy of Confucianism cannot be changed, so now Dashun has been broken for decades and has not been established. Cheng Zhu Neo Confucianism has been broken, but the new one still cannot be established.
If the most difficult step cannot be passed, then Dashun may... probably have to go the way of France again - after many years, a Utopia appeared outside, and the Chinese Empire has fallen and lost its pride. In the Utopia outside, a vigorous, French-style thunderstorm swept away everything.
This is not impossible, but the prerequisite "degradation and loss of self-confidence" itself is a terrible tragedy.
Because even now, Dashun still has the capital to be absolutely proud.
He talks about diplomacy, but in his heart he still has the mentality of being a barbarian in China.This is true regardless of trade, surplus, silver stock, population, handicraft development, cities in the south of the Yangtze River, etc.
How miserable does it take to achieve the condition of being degraded and losing self-confidence?The arrogance and self-confidence of the Celestial Dynasty in history was not destroyed by one crow and two crows, but by the Sino-Japanese War. It was destroyed by the Japanese country, which was once looked down upon, and how could it win?Everything in that dynasty is really over, break it and start over.
"You can't go this way."
Thinking of the terrible tragedy in his heart, Liu Yu secretly warned himself.
The emperor's attitude has been very clear. Going to Nanyang is not a problem, but after going to Nanyang, it is very likely that there will be a trade in Malacca.
Relying on Dashun's maritime merchants and private forces, it is already the limit to go to Malacca and India.
This is not a question of whether to open the sea or to ban the sea, but that there are monopoly companies in Europe, with the power of the state behind them, and all countries have tariff protection.
Even if the imperial court encourages overseas trade while promoting trade, that is useless.If the imperial court does not end, private forces cannot beat monopoly companies at all.
With Dashun's current sailing level, can a few merchant ships go to Europe?Of course.
But after going there, Hong Kong is no longer reliable.People will not allow you to call in Hong Kong at all.
The monopoly power of the East India Company allows you to enter Hong Kong to sell goods just because you open the sea to encourage trade?It's not a real father, this is wishful thinking, and the way of thinking is similar to that of Japanese gamblers.
Unless the court personally ends.
But where and how far the imperial court, or the emperor, can go is a question.
Now the emperor supports Nanyang, which is of course good, Liu Yu can be a great loyal minister.
When one day the emperor does not want to go forward and becomes an obstacle—if the court does not end, even encouraging the people to go to sea is useless, so as long as the army and the treasury are not supported, it is an obstacle—then we can only remove this obstacle. get rid of.
Maybe the next emperor will still be an expansionist, maybe the next emperor will still be a Mingjun.
However, Liu Yu didn't want to pin her hopes on the word "possible".
If it is not possible, he must ensure that this obstacle can be removed.
Expansion is outside, change is inside.
Between inside and outside, complement each other.
To smash the old forces internally requires a force that is not rentier landlords and scholar-bureaucrats.
If this force is to be strong enough to fight against the old forces, it needs the market to feed them and grow them up.
The internal market needs to smash the old forces to expand; and to smash the old forces requires the new forces to be strong enough.
This is an endless loop, and we can only find breakthroughs from the outside.
Therefore, if it cannot be done internally, it can only be expanded externally.
Japan plus Nanyang, the market seems to be big enough, but compared to the size of Dashun and the strength of the old forces inside Dashun, it is still too small.
It is impossible to feed out a force that is strong enough to smash the old forces.
So it is not enough, and a larger external market is needed.
As for the larger external market, it is necessary to prepare for a full-scale conflict with Britain, France, Portugal and Spain.The East India Company is a monopoly company, and they paid money to get the monopoly rights, and they are not the relatives of Dashun maritime merchants. Of course, they will not allow Dashun maritime merchants to sell goods in their sphere of influence just because Dashun opened sea trade. .
What Dashun lacked was not primitive accumulation. Hundreds of years of silk and porcelain trade had already saved enough silver as starting capital.
There is no shortage of people, there is no need for land enclosures, and after the poll tax was abolished, groups of refugees went to the cities to make a living.
What is missing is the subsequent capital accumulation, that is, the market.And in the process of capital proliferation, a new class that is gradually raised and capable of destroying the old era.
The whole difficulty lies in "bringing up", or what Liu Yu and Kang Bushao said at the beginning, "protecting the fire will never go out".
If someone from the new force is Chai.And enlightenment thought is fire.Both are indispensable.
Once the old forces want to extinguish the fire and take away the firewood, the new forces must be able to win when the old forces counterattack.
The European style cannot be copied, so what should we do with the Enlightenment Movement with Dashun’s characteristics?Where is the breaking point?
Kang Buxio said that Dashun has its own national conditions, and the entry point should be on the rule of the three generations. It cannot be a rational utopia, and it can only hold high the banner of the retro, and change the rule of the three generations and the righteousness of Confucianism.
In fact, Liu Yu also thought about it this way, and he also understood that the situation in Dashun cannot be copied from what France is doing now.
But Kang Bushi himself said it was extremely difficult, and he couldn't find a point where he could get in.
This made Liu Yu very upset.
Is this direction basically correct, but I and Kang Bushao and other confidantes have limited abilities and haven't found an entry point?
Or... this direction is wrong, so I can't find the entry point?
If it's the former, that's fine.Once the foundation is laid, there will be a strong man and a half-sage to comment on the scriptures to solve the problem.
But if it's the latter, the trouble will be big.
Liu Yu had always been convinced that this direction was basically correct, but maybe it was because of these things that he experienced today, or maybe it was because Liu Yu was frightened by hearing that Voltaire was praised too highly, which made him a little shaken and doubtful.
After a long silence, Kang Buxiu also noticed that something was wrong with Liu Yu, and asked in a low voice, "My lord thinks what I said is wrong? Or is it that stones from other mountains may not be able to attack jade?"
Liu Yu frowned hard, and shook his head: "It's not wrong. You also know that Dashun has its own national conditions, but what is the difference between Dashun and other countries? You just heard me and know a thing or two. Even Japan, and There are thousands of differences in this dynasty, and as for Europa, the difference is even greater."
"I'm thinking why we can only learn from history? Because we are different from others, we can only learn from our own history. If we use others, we must first become someone else's shape. So now when we can't learn from history, we just It is difficult to cross the river by feeling the stones.”
"This time I went to Europa and saw it with my own eyes. It is also clear which are the stones from other mountains that can be used for jade;
"This time, the imperial court also sent people. His Majesty felt that my eyes could only see the good, so he sent a team with two eyes to focus on the bad."
"Your Majesty will understand if you want to listen at the same time. This is a little troublesome."
Speaking of this, Liu Yu also smiled awkwardly and said: "What I did before is actually similar to what Voltaire did. They all monopolize the voice channel and say what they want to say. Anyway, most people have never done it. country. It may be part of the truth, but not the whole of it.”
"Now that the dynasty is diplomatic, the situation where I alone monopolize the information from the outside is gone. Those things that make the emperor feel terrible outside will also come in."
"You want to observe the future chaos in the Western countries to learn from it. But... the emperor will also stare at it."
Kang Bulao comforted: "Young master, don't worry, this matter is not as terrible as you think."
"How to say?"
"Hahahaha...Young master, you should know that the country is ruled by virtue, and the court is superior to the law. Those who focus on the bad, what do you think they will look at?"
"Aren't you just like Arai Shiraishi of the Japanese country, staring at morality, etiquette, and habits, angrily denouncing the customs of the barbarians, which is ridiculous. When you do things, you have to investigate deeply and look for the people. You think you are going to find bad people, Will it be the same as the young master? The young master is judging others by himself."
After finishing speaking, Kang Bushao laughed again: "My lord, you must know that looking for disadvantages, if you don't pay attention, you will become looking for superiority. If your majesty really thinks about it, the people who should be sent should have received the emperor's education. Educational prince, go and see those terrible things. But His Majesty sent someone who knows the etiquette, this is not... hehe."
"I dare say that after I came back, most of the things I talked about were [men and women living together, shameless] and the like. You really think they can do social surveys and see really scary things?"
"They haven't learned this at all, how could they see these things?"
"Young master's set of things can be taken for granted when used. But what the young master takes for granted may not be taken for granted by others."
"At the beginning, the old duke said that the young master didn't read books and couldn't know himself and the enemy. He advised the young master to read the scriptures once. When he read it, he forgot everything he had learned before. Only by understanding what those people think is the only way to understand their thinking. The young master didn't listen. , that’s why I’m worried now.”
Hearing that Kang Buxio said so optimistically, Liu Yu hesitantly nodded and shook his head, and said after a while, "I hope so."
Kang Buxiu said firmly: "It's not that I hope so, but it is so. Those things in the young master's mind can wash away what I have learned before, which makes me take it seriously. But those things I learned before cannot be washed away. Something in the boy's head."
"So, you may not be able to understand some things that I can understand. On this point, you still have to believe me. If you don't believe me, let's wait and see."
(End of this chapter)
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