Xinshun 1730
Chapter 576 Another kind of fantasy
Chapter 576 Another Kind of Fantasy
The last sentence broke Cai Shiwu's defense.
He is not a native Chinese from Old Port, he escaped from the Chinese Empire, how could he not know the power of the Chinese officials?
Although this Banga is a bit of a tin mine, if it is placed in the Celestial Dynasty, at most it will be in the eyes of the state shepherd, and it will not be able to reach the level of governor.
There are also imperial envoys in the old port sultan, but are the imperial envoys in the old port sultan the same as the imperial envoys of the Celestial Dynasty?
Although what he said in the end was extremely ugly, it made Cai Shiwu believe it.
Isn't it true that in the eyes of the imperial envoys of the Celestial Dynasty, the fight between people like myself and the mine owner is not the same as watching cockfights and crickets?
He is not afraid of those mine owners, but afraid of the Celestial Dynasty helping those mine owners.If it is true that the two sides of the Celestial Dynasty do not help each other, it will be fine on the contrary, and he has never expected the Lord Qingtian to uphold justice.
"If the imperial envoy doesn't help each other, how can he tie me up?"
"Nonsense, is it possible that I am a dignified marquis, go deep into the mine to work, and ask who is the leading hero? When the mine owner is hosting a banquet, I am a little curious when talking about restlessness."
"curious?"
Cai Shiwu didn't understand what he meant, Liu Yu smiled and said, "I'm curious what you guys are going to do."
"Look, this mine is owned by the Sultan of the Old Port. The Sultan of the Old Port has contacted the Dutch, and only the Dutch are allowed to buy tin. On the Sultan's side, there are 11 silver dollars a load, and the package is 7 or 8 for your mine owners. For a silver dollar a load, the Chief of Old Harbor makes a difference."
"The little chief of the old port, is he ashamed to be called the Sudan? The tin mine in Bangka is probably a big source of income for the old port. In this way, the tin mine is related to the interests of the old port and the Dutch, not just the mine owners. . Once you start an incident, and this is another island, wouldn’t you be trapped to death here? Moreover, killing people’s wealth is like killing parents, so it must be encircled and suppressed.”
"If it was ten years ago, you could still take the opportunity to start a riot, rob the ship, and go to sea to have fun. Either become pirates, or go to a place to stand on your own."
"But now that the Dutch have a monopoly on buying tin, I guess you don't know how to drive a soft sailing ship, and you can't even run. If you can be a sailor, you probably won't dig here, right?"
"That's why I'm curious, are you all reckless men who rely on blood and courage, and you will die if you die, and live happily before you die? Or is there any good way to consider what will happen after you finish your work?"
Cai Shiwu was quite shocked when he heard the imperial envoy in front of him say "rob a ship and go to sea, or become a pirate, or stand on his own."
They really thought about this idea.
What was considered at the time was to make a vote, rob the property of those mine owners who oppressed them, rob the ship and run away, and go to sea to have fun.
But the reason why it didn't work out was exactly the reason Liu Yu said.
When I come to buy goods every year, it is the time when I have the most money, and it is real gold and silver, not worthless tin coins that came out of the mine.
However, the Dutch got the monopoly from the Sultan of Palembang, and only the Dutch could buy tin.Maritime merchants in Dashun wanted to buy tin, but they had to go through the hands of the Dutch.
In the mines, there are those who can control the Fuchuan, but there is really no one who can fully control the Dutchman's soft sailing boat.This makes the plan impossible to implement.
As for the rest, Liu Yu also analyzed it clearly.The tin mine in Bangka, if it was in the Chinese dynasty, would not be considered a big source of income.
But here, it is an important source of income for the Sultan of Palembang, and it is also related to the tin block trade of the Dutch. The benefits are huge, and it can be said that several parties are involved.
Cutting people's wealth is like killing their parents. If there is a riot, they will have to face the joint strangling of several parties. It is not just as simple as dealing with mine owners.
Even this kind of details that need to be discussed many times by those who are quite prestigious among the miners can imagine that Cai Shiwu already believed Liu Yu's words, and maybe he was really just here for fun.
Indeed, in front of the Celestial Dynasty, the power of this group of people is so weak that it is not worth mentioning. In the eyes of the imperial envoys of the Celestial Dynasty, they may be like fighting cocks and crickets, pure playthings.
If it's just a plaything for watching ants fight, it seems a good thing to let this group of people leave by speaking out.
But even so, Cai Shiwu was not prepared to tell the whole story, but avoided some key issues.
"We are ready to rise, men and women are about brothers and sisters."
"In the future, the income from mining will be shared equally among the workers. Ten of them will be put into the public treasury to help widows and widows."
"Consumer associations purchase grain, oil, rice and noodles according to the needs of the public. They do not seek profit, but only for the convenience of the public. They sell at the cost."
"Each mine has more than a hundred people as a family, and the brothers and sisters undertake it separately. Except for the [-]th going into the public treasury to help the widows and lonely, the rest of the profits are shared equally by brothers and sisters."
"Opioids are banned, and brothers and sisters are not allowed to eat opium. If you have been infected, everyone will help you get rid of it."
"The land is allotted, and the population of Bangka, regardless of men and women, is divided into lands and cannot be bought or sold. Eleven of them are taken into the public treasury."
"The suffering of people in the world today is due to everyone's selfishness, lack of love and ruthlessness. In order to seek benefits, they will use whatever means and no love. Everyone is an enemy, killing, deceiving and oppressing each other."
"It is necessary for everyone to be brothers and sisters, fraternal love and mutual aid. In this way, the way of the great way is also, people are not alone in kissing their relatives, not only in their sons, so that the old will die, the strong will be useful, the young will be strong, and the widowed and reserved Those who are lonely, lonely, disabled and sick all have something to support, males have a share, and females have a home. Goods are evil and they are abandoned on the ground, so there is no need to hide them in oneself; strength evil does not come from the body, so there is no need to do it for oneself. Closed but not flourishing, thieves and thieves are not committed, so outsiders are not closed."
Cai Shiwu avoided many key points.
Although a description of the Great Harmony was added at the end, Liu Yu’s Western learning was learned from Dai Jinxian, the vice president of the Jesuits in China. Even if he added the description of the Great Harmony to cover up its taste, it was too strong ...
The smell of the integration of the Christian Utopia Society and local talents is so strong that it makes Liu Yu dizzy.
This is definitely not an idea that can be germinated in Dashun, because the main problem of Dashun is land, and it is absolutely impossible to think of the idea of cooperative cooperatives and consumer societies free of profit.
Obviously, this is a set of methods suitable for the mining area that combines the characteristics of the Bangka mining area and follows the "Bible" and "Book of Rites".
If it weren't for Christianity, it would be difficult to attribute the problems in the world to "everyone is selfish, ruthless and loveless", and it would be impossible to describe the contradictions in places like Nanyang, where capitalism is deeply germinated, as "people and people There is a war going on between them, against each other. The lack of fraternity, selfishness, a system that violates the law of love is the root of everything".
Although Dashun also has a lot of fantasies in the local area, the flavor of fantasies over there is not like this.
It is the "retro taste" conceived by He Xinyin, Huang Zongxi, Li Wei, Yan Yuan and others.
Attempts to refit the modern means of production and means of exchange into the framework of the old property relations that they have broken through and will inevitably break through.Basically, it is equivalent to stuffing the child whose head has been exposed back into the mother's stomach.
It is He Xinyin's Cuihetang: an idealized agricultural patriarchal system, crowns, marriages, funerals, sacrifices, taxes and servitude, everything is there or not.With the patriarchal clan as the core, strive for clan harmony, practice private law, and supremacy of clan power.
It is the retro conception of the Yan Li school: average land and well fields, government officials collect [-] taxes, and trading is strictly prohibited; Buying and selling land; prohibiting hiring people to farm.
It all sounds good, but if you think about it carefully, it is purely against the times.
Dashun's mainstream fantasy, or the flavor conceived by relying on Confucianism, smells similar to what Cai Shiwu said, but it is completely different if you taste it carefully.
The core of the latter is the idealized patriarchal system, the guild system, and the pure feudal system without germination.
The core of the former is fraternity, justice, anti-selfishness, morality, and primitive egalitarianism.
Liu Yu chuckled and shook his head again and again, thinking that this set of utopias can't be played. This is to build Banga into a heaven on earth?
Cai Shiwu felt that he hadn't exposed too much, but Liu Yu's nose hurt from the pungent smell, so he laughed for a while and said, "Alright, although I'm not a Catholic, my teacher is, and I understand a little bit. The person who suggested this must be a Christian. The point is that this thing is not right."
"It is said that the root of all evil in the world is the lack of love, which leads to selfishness, and to the point that people are in a state of competition. Isn't the business itself just buying cheap and selling dear? Since you are in business, you still have to sell mines , Isn’t that contradictory? The Catholic Church seems to think that doing business is a crime, right? No, it’s a crime to buy cheap and sell dear, but you can’t do business if you don’t buy cheap and sell cheap.”
Cai Shiwu could only shake his head and said, "Although I don't understand it well, he has also heard him preach. He said that people who buy cheap and sell dearly are not condemned under two circumstances, and it is not against benevolence and morality."
"One is to obtain appropriate profits, which are used to feed the family or help the poor. Instead of investing the profit money in reproduction and continuing to expand profits."
"The other is unintentional. When you buy, you don't think about selling it when it is expensive, but if you really want to sell it when it is expensive, it is unintentional. The price has changed, and it is not your fault for selling."
"We are the first type. We sell it for a profit, to feed the people, young and old, and to help the poor. We don't do it to make money, hire more people, and make more money...so it's not a crime."
"And we don't sell things for profit. It's just for the convenience of everyone. If we don't produce food, cloth, etc., we will buy them from outside and sell them to our internal needs at a low price."
Hearing this, Liu Yu couldn't help laughing and said, "Nonsense! Don't place your hopes on love, benevolence and righteousness."
"I'm not attacking you either. If you want to build a heaven on earth where fraternity and brotherhood are brothers in one place and one city, you can't build it. Even if you do this, after a few years, it will definitely be the same old way."
"You guys have become mine owners, but you hire cheaper people to work. You share the dividends, and the new group of people only do coolies."
"If you just play like this, don't bother. It's useless to toss. The way is wrong."
"However, you are still some personalities. How about I give you a way out, and you follow me as a soldier, how about it? It's not just you, I'm going to take all of you leaders away."
(End of this chapter)
The last sentence broke Cai Shiwu's defense.
He is not a native Chinese from Old Port, he escaped from the Chinese Empire, how could he not know the power of the Chinese officials?
Although this Banga is a bit of a tin mine, if it is placed in the Celestial Dynasty, at most it will be in the eyes of the state shepherd, and it will not be able to reach the level of governor.
There are also imperial envoys in the old port sultan, but are the imperial envoys in the old port sultan the same as the imperial envoys of the Celestial Dynasty?
Although what he said in the end was extremely ugly, it made Cai Shiwu believe it.
Isn't it true that in the eyes of the imperial envoys of the Celestial Dynasty, the fight between people like myself and the mine owner is not the same as watching cockfights and crickets?
He is not afraid of those mine owners, but afraid of the Celestial Dynasty helping those mine owners.If it is true that the two sides of the Celestial Dynasty do not help each other, it will be fine on the contrary, and he has never expected the Lord Qingtian to uphold justice.
"If the imperial envoy doesn't help each other, how can he tie me up?"
"Nonsense, is it possible that I am a dignified marquis, go deep into the mine to work, and ask who is the leading hero? When the mine owner is hosting a banquet, I am a little curious when talking about restlessness."
"curious?"
Cai Shiwu didn't understand what he meant, Liu Yu smiled and said, "I'm curious what you guys are going to do."
"Look, this mine is owned by the Sultan of the Old Port. The Sultan of the Old Port has contacted the Dutch, and only the Dutch are allowed to buy tin. On the Sultan's side, there are 11 silver dollars a load, and the package is 7 or 8 for your mine owners. For a silver dollar a load, the Chief of Old Harbor makes a difference."
"The little chief of the old port, is he ashamed to be called the Sudan? The tin mine in Bangka is probably a big source of income for the old port. In this way, the tin mine is related to the interests of the old port and the Dutch, not just the mine owners. . Once you start an incident, and this is another island, wouldn’t you be trapped to death here? Moreover, killing people’s wealth is like killing parents, so it must be encircled and suppressed.”
"If it was ten years ago, you could still take the opportunity to start a riot, rob the ship, and go to sea to have fun. Either become pirates, or go to a place to stand on your own."
"But now that the Dutch have a monopoly on buying tin, I guess you don't know how to drive a soft sailing ship, and you can't even run. If you can be a sailor, you probably won't dig here, right?"
"That's why I'm curious, are you all reckless men who rely on blood and courage, and you will die if you die, and live happily before you die? Or is there any good way to consider what will happen after you finish your work?"
Cai Shiwu was quite shocked when he heard the imperial envoy in front of him say "rob a ship and go to sea, or become a pirate, or stand on his own."
They really thought about this idea.
What was considered at the time was to make a vote, rob the property of those mine owners who oppressed them, rob the ship and run away, and go to sea to have fun.
But the reason why it didn't work out was exactly the reason Liu Yu said.
When I come to buy goods every year, it is the time when I have the most money, and it is real gold and silver, not worthless tin coins that came out of the mine.
However, the Dutch got the monopoly from the Sultan of Palembang, and only the Dutch could buy tin.Maritime merchants in Dashun wanted to buy tin, but they had to go through the hands of the Dutch.
In the mines, there are those who can control the Fuchuan, but there is really no one who can fully control the Dutchman's soft sailing boat.This makes the plan impossible to implement.
As for the rest, Liu Yu also analyzed it clearly.The tin mine in Bangka, if it was in the Chinese dynasty, would not be considered a big source of income.
But here, it is an important source of income for the Sultan of Palembang, and it is also related to the tin block trade of the Dutch. The benefits are huge, and it can be said that several parties are involved.
Cutting people's wealth is like killing their parents. If there is a riot, they will have to face the joint strangling of several parties. It is not just as simple as dealing with mine owners.
Even this kind of details that need to be discussed many times by those who are quite prestigious among the miners can imagine that Cai Shiwu already believed Liu Yu's words, and maybe he was really just here for fun.
Indeed, in front of the Celestial Dynasty, the power of this group of people is so weak that it is not worth mentioning. In the eyes of the imperial envoys of the Celestial Dynasty, they may be like fighting cocks and crickets, pure playthings.
If it's just a plaything for watching ants fight, it seems a good thing to let this group of people leave by speaking out.
But even so, Cai Shiwu was not prepared to tell the whole story, but avoided some key issues.
"We are ready to rise, men and women are about brothers and sisters."
"In the future, the income from mining will be shared equally among the workers. Ten of them will be put into the public treasury to help widows and widows."
"Consumer associations purchase grain, oil, rice and noodles according to the needs of the public. They do not seek profit, but only for the convenience of the public. They sell at the cost."
"Each mine has more than a hundred people as a family, and the brothers and sisters undertake it separately. Except for the [-]th going into the public treasury to help the widows and lonely, the rest of the profits are shared equally by brothers and sisters."
"Opioids are banned, and brothers and sisters are not allowed to eat opium. If you have been infected, everyone will help you get rid of it."
"The land is allotted, and the population of Bangka, regardless of men and women, is divided into lands and cannot be bought or sold. Eleven of them are taken into the public treasury."
"The suffering of people in the world today is due to everyone's selfishness, lack of love and ruthlessness. In order to seek benefits, they will use whatever means and no love. Everyone is an enemy, killing, deceiving and oppressing each other."
"It is necessary for everyone to be brothers and sisters, fraternal love and mutual aid. In this way, the way of the great way is also, people are not alone in kissing their relatives, not only in their sons, so that the old will die, the strong will be useful, the young will be strong, and the widowed and reserved Those who are lonely, lonely, disabled and sick all have something to support, males have a share, and females have a home. Goods are evil and they are abandoned on the ground, so there is no need to hide them in oneself; strength evil does not come from the body, so there is no need to do it for oneself. Closed but not flourishing, thieves and thieves are not committed, so outsiders are not closed."
Cai Shiwu avoided many key points.
Although a description of the Great Harmony was added at the end, Liu Yu’s Western learning was learned from Dai Jinxian, the vice president of the Jesuits in China. Even if he added the description of the Great Harmony to cover up its taste, it was too strong ...
The smell of the integration of the Christian Utopia Society and local talents is so strong that it makes Liu Yu dizzy.
This is definitely not an idea that can be germinated in Dashun, because the main problem of Dashun is land, and it is absolutely impossible to think of the idea of cooperative cooperatives and consumer societies free of profit.
Obviously, this is a set of methods suitable for the mining area that combines the characteristics of the Bangka mining area and follows the "Bible" and "Book of Rites".
If it weren't for Christianity, it would be difficult to attribute the problems in the world to "everyone is selfish, ruthless and loveless", and it would be impossible to describe the contradictions in places like Nanyang, where capitalism is deeply germinated, as "people and people There is a war going on between them, against each other. The lack of fraternity, selfishness, a system that violates the law of love is the root of everything".
Although Dashun also has a lot of fantasies in the local area, the flavor of fantasies over there is not like this.
It is the "retro taste" conceived by He Xinyin, Huang Zongxi, Li Wei, Yan Yuan and others.
Attempts to refit the modern means of production and means of exchange into the framework of the old property relations that they have broken through and will inevitably break through.Basically, it is equivalent to stuffing the child whose head has been exposed back into the mother's stomach.
It is He Xinyin's Cuihetang: an idealized agricultural patriarchal system, crowns, marriages, funerals, sacrifices, taxes and servitude, everything is there or not.With the patriarchal clan as the core, strive for clan harmony, practice private law, and supremacy of clan power.
It is the retro conception of the Yan Li school: average land and well fields, government officials collect [-] taxes, and trading is strictly prohibited; Buying and selling land; prohibiting hiring people to farm.
It all sounds good, but if you think about it carefully, it is purely against the times.
Dashun's mainstream fantasy, or the flavor conceived by relying on Confucianism, smells similar to what Cai Shiwu said, but it is completely different if you taste it carefully.
The core of the latter is the idealized patriarchal system, the guild system, and the pure feudal system without germination.
The core of the former is fraternity, justice, anti-selfishness, morality, and primitive egalitarianism.
Liu Yu chuckled and shook his head again and again, thinking that this set of utopias can't be played. This is to build Banga into a heaven on earth?
Cai Shiwu felt that he hadn't exposed too much, but Liu Yu's nose hurt from the pungent smell, so he laughed for a while and said, "Alright, although I'm not a Catholic, my teacher is, and I understand a little bit. The person who suggested this must be a Christian. The point is that this thing is not right."
"It is said that the root of all evil in the world is the lack of love, which leads to selfishness, and to the point that people are in a state of competition. Isn't the business itself just buying cheap and selling dear? Since you are in business, you still have to sell mines , Isn’t that contradictory? The Catholic Church seems to think that doing business is a crime, right? No, it’s a crime to buy cheap and sell dear, but you can’t do business if you don’t buy cheap and sell cheap.”
Cai Shiwu could only shake his head and said, "Although I don't understand it well, he has also heard him preach. He said that people who buy cheap and sell dearly are not condemned under two circumstances, and it is not against benevolence and morality."
"One is to obtain appropriate profits, which are used to feed the family or help the poor. Instead of investing the profit money in reproduction and continuing to expand profits."
"The other is unintentional. When you buy, you don't think about selling it when it is expensive, but if you really want to sell it when it is expensive, it is unintentional. The price has changed, and it is not your fault for selling."
"We are the first type. We sell it for a profit, to feed the people, young and old, and to help the poor. We don't do it to make money, hire more people, and make more money...so it's not a crime."
"And we don't sell things for profit. It's just for the convenience of everyone. If we don't produce food, cloth, etc., we will buy them from outside and sell them to our internal needs at a low price."
Hearing this, Liu Yu couldn't help laughing and said, "Nonsense! Don't place your hopes on love, benevolence and righteousness."
"I'm not attacking you either. If you want to build a heaven on earth where fraternity and brotherhood are brothers in one place and one city, you can't build it. Even if you do this, after a few years, it will definitely be the same old way."
"You guys have become mine owners, but you hire cheaper people to work. You share the dividends, and the new group of people only do coolies."
"If you just play like this, don't bother. It's useless to toss. The way is wrong."
"However, you are still some personalities. How about I give you a way out, and you follow me as a soldier, how about it? It's not just you, I'm going to take all of you leaders away."
(End of this chapter)
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