Xinshun 1730
Chapter 719 What is the purpose of going to Nanyang?
Chapter 719 What is the purpose of going to Nanyang?
Niu Er and the others didn't know what the emperor wanted money for, but they understood that the emperor wanted money.
Not in his place, not seeking his government.
Does the Javanese governor need to consider issues such as reform and immigration in the Huanghuai region?
Of course not.
What the governor of Java has to consider is that when the emperor asks for money, he can send it to the emperor.
Just as in history, decades later, the British "Li Fanyuan" visited Java and concluded that "the problem in Java is, in the final analysis, land reform."
The rest of the problems below the land problem are minor problems.
The plantations, the spice hills, the cane department, the sugar mills, the poll tax, the tax system, etc., are secondary questions.
The land issue is a big problem.
And none of the remaining minor issues are small.
Take, for example, the issues of the sugarcane department, sugarcane gardens, and sugar factories that are most likely to irritate the Guiyi Army.
The imperial court confiscated the sugarcane plantations and sugar factories of the Dutch, and they must be contracted out.We can't dismantle the good sugarcane gardens, divide them into small pieces, and engage in small-scale farming to grow rice, right?
Then this problem comes again.
The contractors who contract the cane department of the sugar factory are what kind of birdmen. Others may not feel deeply, but the Guiyi Army in Java really experienced it first-hand.
Although the butt determines the head, the Guiyi Army has changed from slave labor in a sugar factory to an insurgent, and then to a soldier recruited by the court. They may become "military households" after retiring in the future, and their status has changed.
However, if the Cane Ministry Sugar Factory is the same as before, I am afraid that many people will have some ideas in their hearts.
How did the court deal with the Jiangnan weavers' strike?Convicted in accordance with the "crime of manipulating the market", it is strictly forbidden to call for a break in the future.
Who is the court facing?
In the future, the person who will contract the sugar factory will have a close relationship with the government?Or are the sugar factory workers close to the government?
This is also a big problem.
Because of the village community system of the Javanese, and the climate of several crops a year, the Javanese are not willing to work in the sugar factory and sugarcane field.It's not just Javanese people like this, nor does it mean that people in Dashun are hardworking, but in Dashun, if there is ten mu of land that can produce three crops a year, who would go to the sugarcane field to cut sugarcane?
Therefore, the main workers of the sugar factory in the future must be people from underground Nanyang such as Fujian and Guangdong.In addition, some technical jobs are also led by Chinese, and it is really impossible to do without Chinese.
In the Netherlands, there has been a sugar crisis since 1730.The production is relatively surplus and cannot be sold.
However, with the start of war in Europe, the beginning of melee, the gradual improvement of European living standards, the tea brought by the Ostend tea incident flew into the homes of ordinary people, the large-scale popularization of coffee, the military sugar rationing caused by the war, etc...
Shortly after the Red Creek tragedy in Batavia, there was another wave of high-profit sugar sugar.
If Dashun can take over the market heritage of the Dutch East India Company, coupled with the increased trade volume that forced Japan to switch trades, a rebound in sugar cane is foreseeable.
In this case, what should the policy be?
From the perspective of imperialism, how can the trading companies invested by sugarcane contractors, the Dashun royal family and nobles compete with the French black slaves in Haiti without lowering the treatment of Chinese employees?How to compete with low caste "two-legged animals" in Bangladesh?
Moreover, since the imperial court encourages immigration and refuses to spend more money, if you immigrate to Nanyang, you must have something to do, right?You have to do something to eat first, right?
It is easy to say that you are willing to spend money, money to emigrate, money to cultivate, but the question is can the court afford this money?
If the imperial court paid for cultivation, who would go to Nanyang to work in sugar factories or cut sugar cane in sugar cane gardens?
The thinking of the industrial age is that workers are much better than farmers.
But in the dark days before the industrial age, the life of small farmers was much better than that of hired labor.
Until the European Spring of 1848, all kinds of utopian societies, reactionary societies, and those who used the banner of the society to engage in retro-reactionary and agricultural patriarchal and industrial guild systems were still the most powerful and demagogic.
To put it cruelly, the life of the immigrants is too good, and the imperial court pays for the cultivation, and no one wants to cut sugar cane.
Just like the classic example in Australia, the British engaged in investment and moved to a full-scale factory. Within three years, all the workers ran away—working to death, wouldn’t it be nice to be a self-cultivator?
Now that the royal family wants money, the way of thinking must be from the perspective of colonial companies.Of course, those who can make money will not be let go; those who can be exported for silver, of course, the policy encourages and supports contractors.
In addition, there are actually problems.
The Governor of Batavia in the Netherlands is more like the Sultan of Batavia. Heretics have to pay poll tax, but Green believers do not have to pay it. This has always been a religious rule.Do these people collect poll tax?Will changing such a tradition lead to a large-scale uprising?
Do you want to abolish the power of the old aristocrats in the ruling area, such as the feudal labor of the peasants under the rule?Do you want to get rid of these indigenous nobles and avoid middlemen making the difference?
After the arrival of Chinese immigrants, how to deal with the impact on the original village land system?
How can the contradiction between the small-scale peasant economy that Dashun is accustomed to and the general village land ownership system of the Spring and Autumn Period here disintegrate?
Just as the colonists have a dual mission, to destroy everything old, but also to transform everything new according to the needs of the colonists.
Dashun's trip to Nanyang also has such a dual mission.
Destroy everything old.
According to the needs of Dashun, it will be transformed into a new one.
The question is, for Dashun, what should the demanded Nanyang look like?
Each of these problems is a problem.
Randomly picking out a small problem is enough for many, many years later, those engaged in social science, literature and history will write a grand master's and doctoral thesis.
Liu Yu said that he wanted to test teachers and test teachers of the second class of Niu, but it was really difficult for others, and it really stumped them.
Because they have been subtly influenced by Liu Yu over the years, their way of thinking and perspective on the world have gradually become incompatible with Dashun's mainstream ideology.
The so-called "darkest moment before dawn" when the old era is about to pass and the new era is approaching, and it's not just the Dashun people who have been subtly influenced by it have a lot of confusion.
Europe is also like a bird. People who really start to think rationally and understand the world from a new perspective must be confused and lost in this era.
The new ideas they have subtly accepted have influenced their thinking. They can try to explain the world from a new perspective and discover some problems in the world, but they cannot find a way to change the world or solve the problems.
If they have not been educated by new ideas, the problem is actually simple: the blind cannot see the world, so the world does not exist.
Let an upright official of the imperial court and a good official of the people to solve the problem in Java, I am afraid that the sugar factory will be demolished first; the sugarcane plantation will be divided into small pieces of land and distributed to the people; The beginnings of capitalism...
But for Niu Er and others, the influence they have received in the past ten years makes them feel that this practice is pure nonsense, and it is basically what Liu Yuchang called "reactionary", which is similar to the idea of Fuzhou Ritual, which cannot keep up with the times.
"Reactionary" is not necessarily bad, because there is a standard for good and bad.The key lies in this standard, what shall prevail.
To dismantle the sugar factory and divide the sugarcane garden into small pieces to grow rice for the common people is definitely correct based on the ideology derived from Dashun's small-scale peasant economy.
But if you jump out of the ideological standard derived from the small peasant economy, is this right?Still wrong?
It was the Celestial Dynasty that chose the transformed Confucianism, not the Celestial Dynasty that Confucianism rushed to bind.The material base determines social consciousness, and the economic base determines the superstructure.
It seems that it is just a question of how to rule the Jiji area.
In fact, it is a silent confrontation between old and new ideologies within Dashun.
But Niu Er and others were born and lived in the old era, but they subtly accepted the new ideas in Weihai, which made them feel that this problem was really fucking difficult.
A group of people discussed the companionship, but in fact nothing was discussed, and no consensus could be reached at all.
Even if we get rid of those thoughts that "we have changed the place where our buttocks sit and our heads have changed, this is not taking the declaration during the uprising as fart", it is still difficult to reach a consensus.
The good news is that no matter who puts forward some ideas, someone will always point out the problems and mistakes that this method will cause after thinking about it.
Early the next morning, it was daylight, and the wake-up call sounded. I had no idea that my fate was about to rise up to eat, relieve my hands, and prepare to line up with the soldiers of the rebel army who were bound to distant Ceylon and India.
Niu Er and the others came to Liu Yu's side with dark circles under their eyes.
On the surface of the sea, the warship was ready to set sail, with cannons on board, and it was not planned to use the Dutch cannon captured by Niu Er and others.
There are also supplies on board, and there is no need to spend time loading Cirebon's supplies on board.
Li Yan wanted to lead the fleet to march westward to provide supplies and shelling support for the Guiyi Army who surrounded and annihilated the withdrawal of the Dutch army.
Liu Yu stayed on the shore and wanted to act together with the Guiyi Army.
Looking at Niu Er and the others with dark circles under their eyes, Liu Yu couldn't help laughing and said, "Well, those who study in order to become an official have suffered ten years of hard work. In order to become an official, you have to think clearly about Java. This is a night of sleepless nights." what?"
Niu Er didn't raise the banner, but patted his still unconscious face, and said with a smile, "Jinghou's words are true. If it weren't for being an official, how many people would be willing to study hard for ten years of sage books? If you have that time, wouldn’t it be good to read novels and listen to operas?”
"Aren't we doing this for the sake of our future? Now the future is by our side, but the Marquis of Whale wants to test us. This question is really difficult."
"We discussed for most of the night last night, but there was no result. It seems that everything is wrong, and there are problems."
Liu Yu thought, this is a good thing.When beliefs are weak and old ideas clash with new ones, it's natural to feel that nothing is right.
He took out a box of menthol camphor used to refresh and repel mosquitoes from his pocket, threw it to these people, and said with a smile: "The key to this matter is to find the right problem."
Niu Er touched some of his temples, rubbed some on his face, threw the box to the one next to him, and said with a wry smile: "Actually, we have found the right problem."
"Oh, what's the problem?" Liu Yu asked with a smile.
"The question is, what is the purpose of going to Nanyang?" Niu Er felt that it was not difficult to find the right question.
"So?" Liu Yu still smiled and asked.
"So? So we feel that it is one thing from the perspective of the Holy Son of Heaven; it is another thing from the perspective of the abstract China; it is different from the perspective of a big businessman; it is different from the perspective of slave labor It’s different; from the perspective of a person who wants to farm abroad, it’s different; from the perspective of the trading company of the emperor and a noble businessman, it’s another...”
(End of this chapter)
Niu Er and the others didn't know what the emperor wanted money for, but they understood that the emperor wanted money.
Not in his place, not seeking his government.
Does the Javanese governor need to consider issues such as reform and immigration in the Huanghuai region?
Of course not.
What the governor of Java has to consider is that when the emperor asks for money, he can send it to the emperor.
Just as in history, decades later, the British "Li Fanyuan" visited Java and concluded that "the problem in Java is, in the final analysis, land reform."
The rest of the problems below the land problem are minor problems.
The plantations, the spice hills, the cane department, the sugar mills, the poll tax, the tax system, etc., are secondary questions.
The land issue is a big problem.
And none of the remaining minor issues are small.
Take, for example, the issues of the sugarcane department, sugarcane gardens, and sugar factories that are most likely to irritate the Guiyi Army.
The imperial court confiscated the sugarcane plantations and sugar factories of the Dutch, and they must be contracted out.We can't dismantle the good sugarcane gardens, divide them into small pieces, and engage in small-scale farming to grow rice, right?
Then this problem comes again.
The contractors who contract the cane department of the sugar factory are what kind of birdmen. Others may not feel deeply, but the Guiyi Army in Java really experienced it first-hand.
Although the butt determines the head, the Guiyi Army has changed from slave labor in a sugar factory to an insurgent, and then to a soldier recruited by the court. They may become "military households" after retiring in the future, and their status has changed.
However, if the Cane Ministry Sugar Factory is the same as before, I am afraid that many people will have some ideas in their hearts.
How did the court deal with the Jiangnan weavers' strike?Convicted in accordance with the "crime of manipulating the market", it is strictly forbidden to call for a break in the future.
Who is the court facing?
In the future, the person who will contract the sugar factory will have a close relationship with the government?Or are the sugar factory workers close to the government?
This is also a big problem.
Because of the village community system of the Javanese, and the climate of several crops a year, the Javanese are not willing to work in the sugar factory and sugarcane field.It's not just Javanese people like this, nor does it mean that people in Dashun are hardworking, but in Dashun, if there is ten mu of land that can produce three crops a year, who would go to the sugarcane field to cut sugarcane?
Therefore, the main workers of the sugar factory in the future must be people from underground Nanyang such as Fujian and Guangdong.In addition, some technical jobs are also led by Chinese, and it is really impossible to do without Chinese.
In the Netherlands, there has been a sugar crisis since 1730.The production is relatively surplus and cannot be sold.
However, with the start of war in Europe, the beginning of melee, the gradual improvement of European living standards, the tea brought by the Ostend tea incident flew into the homes of ordinary people, the large-scale popularization of coffee, the military sugar rationing caused by the war, etc...
Shortly after the Red Creek tragedy in Batavia, there was another wave of high-profit sugar sugar.
If Dashun can take over the market heritage of the Dutch East India Company, coupled with the increased trade volume that forced Japan to switch trades, a rebound in sugar cane is foreseeable.
In this case, what should the policy be?
From the perspective of imperialism, how can the trading companies invested by sugarcane contractors, the Dashun royal family and nobles compete with the French black slaves in Haiti without lowering the treatment of Chinese employees?How to compete with low caste "two-legged animals" in Bangladesh?
Moreover, since the imperial court encourages immigration and refuses to spend more money, if you immigrate to Nanyang, you must have something to do, right?You have to do something to eat first, right?
It is easy to say that you are willing to spend money, money to emigrate, money to cultivate, but the question is can the court afford this money?
If the imperial court paid for cultivation, who would go to Nanyang to work in sugar factories or cut sugar cane in sugar cane gardens?
The thinking of the industrial age is that workers are much better than farmers.
But in the dark days before the industrial age, the life of small farmers was much better than that of hired labor.
Until the European Spring of 1848, all kinds of utopian societies, reactionary societies, and those who used the banner of the society to engage in retro-reactionary and agricultural patriarchal and industrial guild systems were still the most powerful and demagogic.
To put it cruelly, the life of the immigrants is too good, and the imperial court pays for the cultivation, and no one wants to cut sugar cane.
Just like the classic example in Australia, the British engaged in investment and moved to a full-scale factory. Within three years, all the workers ran away—working to death, wouldn’t it be nice to be a self-cultivator?
Now that the royal family wants money, the way of thinking must be from the perspective of colonial companies.Of course, those who can make money will not be let go; those who can be exported for silver, of course, the policy encourages and supports contractors.
In addition, there are actually problems.
The Governor of Batavia in the Netherlands is more like the Sultan of Batavia. Heretics have to pay poll tax, but Green believers do not have to pay it. This has always been a religious rule.Do these people collect poll tax?Will changing such a tradition lead to a large-scale uprising?
Do you want to abolish the power of the old aristocrats in the ruling area, such as the feudal labor of the peasants under the rule?Do you want to get rid of these indigenous nobles and avoid middlemen making the difference?
After the arrival of Chinese immigrants, how to deal with the impact on the original village land system?
How can the contradiction between the small-scale peasant economy that Dashun is accustomed to and the general village land ownership system of the Spring and Autumn Period here disintegrate?
Just as the colonists have a dual mission, to destroy everything old, but also to transform everything new according to the needs of the colonists.
Dashun's trip to Nanyang also has such a dual mission.
Destroy everything old.
According to the needs of Dashun, it will be transformed into a new one.
The question is, for Dashun, what should the demanded Nanyang look like?
Each of these problems is a problem.
Randomly picking out a small problem is enough for many, many years later, those engaged in social science, literature and history will write a grand master's and doctoral thesis.
Liu Yu said that he wanted to test teachers and test teachers of the second class of Niu, but it was really difficult for others, and it really stumped them.
Because they have been subtly influenced by Liu Yu over the years, their way of thinking and perspective on the world have gradually become incompatible with Dashun's mainstream ideology.
The so-called "darkest moment before dawn" when the old era is about to pass and the new era is approaching, and it's not just the Dashun people who have been subtly influenced by it have a lot of confusion.
Europe is also like a bird. People who really start to think rationally and understand the world from a new perspective must be confused and lost in this era.
The new ideas they have subtly accepted have influenced their thinking. They can try to explain the world from a new perspective and discover some problems in the world, but they cannot find a way to change the world or solve the problems.
If they have not been educated by new ideas, the problem is actually simple: the blind cannot see the world, so the world does not exist.
Let an upright official of the imperial court and a good official of the people to solve the problem in Java, I am afraid that the sugar factory will be demolished first; the sugarcane plantation will be divided into small pieces of land and distributed to the people; The beginnings of capitalism...
But for Niu Er and others, the influence they have received in the past ten years makes them feel that this practice is pure nonsense, and it is basically what Liu Yuchang called "reactionary", which is similar to the idea of Fuzhou Ritual, which cannot keep up with the times.
"Reactionary" is not necessarily bad, because there is a standard for good and bad.The key lies in this standard, what shall prevail.
To dismantle the sugar factory and divide the sugarcane garden into small pieces to grow rice for the common people is definitely correct based on the ideology derived from Dashun's small-scale peasant economy.
But if you jump out of the ideological standard derived from the small peasant economy, is this right?Still wrong?
It was the Celestial Dynasty that chose the transformed Confucianism, not the Celestial Dynasty that Confucianism rushed to bind.The material base determines social consciousness, and the economic base determines the superstructure.
It seems that it is just a question of how to rule the Jiji area.
In fact, it is a silent confrontation between old and new ideologies within Dashun.
But Niu Er and others were born and lived in the old era, but they subtly accepted the new ideas in Weihai, which made them feel that this problem was really fucking difficult.
A group of people discussed the companionship, but in fact nothing was discussed, and no consensus could be reached at all.
Even if we get rid of those thoughts that "we have changed the place where our buttocks sit and our heads have changed, this is not taking the declaration during the uprising as fart", it is still difficult to reach a consensus.
The good news is that no matter who puts forward some ideas, someone will always point out the problems and mistakes that this method will cause after thinking about it.
Early the next morning, it was daylight, and the wake-up call sounded. I had no idea that my fate was about to rise up to eat, relieve my hands, and prepare to line up with the soldiers of the rebel army who were bound to distant Ceylon and India.
Niu Er and the others came to Liu Yu's side with dark circles under their eyes.
On the surface of the sea, the warship was ready to set sail, with cannons on board, and it was not planned to use the Dutch cannon captured by Niu Er and others.
There are also supplies on board, and there is no need to spend time loading Cirebon's supplies on board.
Li Yan wanted to lead the fleet to march westward to provide supplies and shelling support for the Guiyi Army who surrounded and annihilated the withdrawal of the Dutch army.
Liu Yu stayed on the shore and wanted to act together with the Guiyi Army.
Looking at Niu Er and the others with dark circles under their eyes, Liu Yu couldn't help laughing and said, "Well, those who study in order to become an official have suffered ten years of hard work. In order to become an official, you have to think clearly about Java. This is a night of sleepless nights." what?"
Niu Er didn't raise the banner, but patted his still unconscious face, and said with a smile, "Jinghou's words are true. If it weren't for being an official, how many people would be willing to study hard for ten years of sage books? If you have that time, wouldn’t it be good to read novels and listen to operas?”
"Aren't we doing this for the sake of our future? Now the future is by our side, but the Marquis of Whale wants to test us. This question is really difficult."
"We discussed for most of the night last night, but there was no result. It seems that everything is wrong, and there are problems."
Liu Yu thought, this is a good thing.When beliefs are weak and old ideas clash with new ones, it's natural to feel that nothing is right.
He took out a box of menthol camphor used to refresh and repel mosquitoes from his pocket, threw it to these people, and said with a smile: "The key to this matter is to find the right problem."
Niu Er touched some of his temples, rubbed some on his face, threw the box to the one next to him, and said with a wry smile: "Actually, we have found the right problem."
"Oh, what's the problem?" Liu Yu asked with a smile.
"The question is, what is the purpose of going to Nanyang?" Niu Er felt that it was not difficult to find the right question.
"So?" Liu Yu still smiled and asked.
"So? So we feel that it is one thing from the perspective of the Holy Son of Heaven; it is another thing from the perspective of the abstract China; it is different from the perspective of a big businessman; it is different from the perspective of slave labor It’s different; from the perspective of a person who wants to farm abroad, it’s different; from the perspective of the trading company of the emperor and a noble businessman, it’s another...”
(End of this chapter)
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