Xinshun 1730
Chapter 745 Batavia New Deal
Chapter 745 Batavia New Deal ([-])
Li Yan's thoughts are almost the attitude of the vast majority of people in the DPRK and China towards going to Nanyang to make profits.
It was also the thing that Liu Yu was most worried about.
Liu Yu hates closing the door to the outside world. In Liu Yu's view, if Li Yan does this, what is the difference from closing the door to the outside world?
It's nothing more than replacing tea, porcelain, and silk with spices.
What is the use?
The ocean-going fleet cannot be trained, the sailors cannot be trained, and the market cannot be occupied.
Domestic land reform will increase Dashun's own consumption capacity and disintegrate the small peasant economy, which is [-] times more difficult than going down to Nanyang.As long as Liu Yu has a little ability to solve these problems in China, he is too lazy to go to Nanyang.
The biggest difficulty in the Nanyang issue lies within.
As far as this year is concerned, even if the Dutch East India Company has reached a cooperation with Dashun, it is impossible to ship the goods directly after the Chinese New Year next year.
In other words, if the spice trade this year is not sold to the British, it will be ruined.
But if it is sold to the British, there is still time this year. Continue to buy spices, and the British will pack them up and ship them away. The British East India Company can eat as much as Dashun inherits from the Dutch industry.
However, in this way, Dashun's journey to Nanyang has enriched himself and Britain. This is a situation that Liu Yu absolutely does not want to see.
Especially when it is about to face the scramble for India, this is the enemy.
The problem is, it takes a long view.
If the goods can be sold directly this year, at least three to five million taels of profit can be made.
Put three to five million taels, not only don't want it, but even in order to keep the spice production area from being destroyed, you may have to invest money to buy it, and then destroy it, burn it or throw it into the sea...
With such a strong contrast, it is really difficult to convince others.
Liu Yu does not form a party, but at this critical juncture, he needs to recruit a group of people who support him in the court, instead of fighting with the Confucianists himself.
Li Yan, the governor of the navy, coupled with the attitude of the emperor's son, is very important.
As for buying spices and then burning them, or piling them up in warehouses, this is also something that must be done.
Otherwise, British smugglers would seize the opportunity to collect spices from spice producing areas.
Dashun does not accept it, but the British accept it, and those who rub spices have to live, so why not sell it?
Once the British are given a chance, with the commercial capabilities and market vision of the British East India Company, after Dashun has negotiated with the Dutch, how can there be Dashun?
If the British East India Company does not take the opportunity to seize the market after the Dutch retreat, it will be hell.
The Netherlands is already very hip, and Liu Yu still expects the Netherlands and the British to fight the Fourth Anglo-Dutch War, cooperate with Dashun and France, and destroy the British fleet.
If the British are full of spices, the Netherlands will not even be qualified to be a dog.
Moreover, the financial capital of the Netherlands has long legs, and the Netherlands does not prohibit the flow of gold and silver. I am afraid that the British can buy spices from Dashun, and the financial capital will all go to London that day?
What else are you playing?It took a long time to co-author, and the purpose of going to Nanyang is to open a business and earn some hard money, so why delay going to Nanyang until this year?
Going to Nanyang ten years ago, the effect is the same.
Liu Yu thought for a while, and Li Yan walked to the accounting office of the Dutch warehouse, and asked all his followers to guard outside, and no one was allowed to come in.
Li Yan looked at this posture, and then thought about the weird and incomprehensible words Liu Yu said just now, and knew that what he was going to talk about must be a big deal.
Sure enough, when Liu Yu revealed his overall plan, Li Yan who was sitting there was completely shocked.
My own vision is only Nanyang. How could I have thought that Liu Yu would make such a big deal here?
Capture Southeast Asia, destroy the Dutch East India Company, reorganize the Dutch East India Company, seize India, contain Britain, control the maritime trade chain...
If it can be done, it will really be a great achievement!
Li Yan sat on the chair and took a few deep breaths to stabilize his pounding heart, and his heart was extremely agitated.
No matter whether this thing can be done or not, if I can participate in such a big thing, I am proud enough!
"This this……"
Even after saying the word "this" a few times, Li Yan still couldn't make a complete sentence.
Thinking about Lian Fuguang and others who felt disgusted before, I thought to myself, what are those people?
"His Royal Highness, let's calm down first. This matter is top secret and must not be mentioned to outsiders. No one can do it except Your Majesty."
Li Yan tried his best to stabilize his mind, nodded again and again: "Yes, yes, I will definitely not talk about anyone except Your Majesty. But, this matter... this matter..."
Swallowing hard, he finally choked out a complete sentence.
"How sure is Marquis Jing about this matter?"
Liu Yu stretched out five fingers, and said as calmly as possible: "Fifty percent. The fifty percent includes the two coups I participated in in Europa a few days ago, and my understanding of the mentality of those financiers in Amsterdam. If we only cooperate with the Netherlands, I'm [-]% sure."
"But working with the Dutch is only half of the plan."
"It's like the spices in Ambon. The Dutch blocked them so badly that the locals could only use spices in exchange for Dutch rice."
"If we don't collect spices and deliver rice this year, I'm afraid many people on the island will starve to death."
"If our naval blockade is not strict, the British will definitely seize the opportunity and go there to collect spices."
"If the British get the spices, the channels of the Dutch are meaningless. There is no way for us to cooperate with the UK unless we prepare to make India all British."
"Don't look at my high opinion of France's Duplex, but to be honest, he is capable, but he is French. The French navy in India is simply a fucking display, and the French will undoubtedly lose."
"India is now comparable to the chaos of the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms. The feudal vassals and towns were separated from each other. If the British were to succeed, there would be such a powerful Western country at the door of the Celestial Ceylon. Lie down and sleep soundly!"
Li Yan lowered his head and followed Liu Yu's train of thought to think carefully, and finally understood what Liu Yu said before "throw it into the sea after collecting it".
It sounds like crazy.
But if you look at it from a higher angle, not only is it not crazy, but it seems to be the only solution.
This requires a lot of money.
Therefore, Li Yan also understood why Liu Yu was so tolerant of these Nanyang tycoons, no matter how dirty their money was, he would never refuse them.
Because, it does take a lot of money.
Even, the money was not used for profit in the first year, but for loss.
Li Yan thought of what Liu Yu told him about the Ostend Company's tea incident. The Dutch East India Company spent money like crazy, selling tea at a loss, and relying on its strong capital to drive down prices, it finally won this monopoly. war.
Now it seems that this matter seems to be similar.
You have to spend money to gain a monopoly position and kill your competitors.
But now, Dashun has another advantage, that is, it controls the place of origin.All that needs to be done is to ensure that before the treaty with the Netherlands is concluded, spending money to ensure that the spice industry will not decline, will not affect the output after two years, and will not give competitors the opportunity to exploit loopholes.
Regarding monopoly, Liu Yu made it clear.
"If you want to monopolize, you have to be willing to lose money. Losing money is to make a lot of money in the future. This is just the beginning. Not only will you lose money this year, but after a few years it stabilizes and the market opens up, you have to lose again. The spice-growing industry in South America is completely ruined."
"The Dutch East India Company is old, and the old one has completely lost its aggressiveness. We are still young, and we shouldn't be so old-fashioned like the Dutch, and even sit at the door of our house and collect money. I don't like it."
"Your Highness is also a young man, so he should be aggressive. This time, I urgently need His Highness's support, because the Navy needs to make great efforts to prevent smuggling this year and prevent the British from taking advantage of loopholes."
"British smugglers are really pervasive. The Dutch have a headache, the Spaniards have a headache, and now it's our turn to have a headache."
Li Yan thought it was right, he really needed the full support of the navy.
But perhaps Liu Yu was too anxious about Britain, and Li Yan jumped out of this anxiety and suddenly thought of a solution.
"Jing Hou, I remember you said that because opium is banned in this dynasty, so the British East India Company has a decree prohibiting the company's registered ships from carrying opium, right?"
Liu Yu was taken aback, wondering why Li Yan suddenly thought of this, and subconsciously mocked: "It's useless. The company's boats don't carry them, but they do wholesale, and wholesale them to peddlers for them to transport. Same?"
Li Yan clapped his hands and said, "Even if it's just a formality, it can be seen that the British have concerns. Now that Britain and France are fighting in India, the Celestial Dynasty has already acquired Ceylon and has a fleet. If that's the case, why not use it?"
"Trick? Where does the trick come from?"
"A plan to slow down the troops!"
Father, like son.
As soon as Li Yan finished speaking these four words, Liu Yu suddenly woke up.
Sure enough, Li Yan said: "Spice is a piece of fat. Hou Jing's idea, and cooperation with the Dutch, this is a wonderful pen, and the sword is slanted."
"Since that's the case, why don't you use this fat to lure you? It's a strategy of delaying the army, so that the British will be wary of rats?"
"Let's say the Dutch are gone, and the spice has to sell. Right?"
"There are only a few that can be sold. How about those frivolous women catching men, making them feel like they can eat it at any time, and they almost can't eat it, so that they can make them feel that they can get it if they behave well."
"At that time, the British must restrain their subordinates and stop smuggling for the time being, lest the Chinese government take the opportunity to deny the British the opportunity to eat spices."
"Moreover, you can also take out the spices and ask several companies to share one share. For example, the United Kingdom shares some; France shares some; Sweden shares some; Denmark shares some; Portugal shares some... and so on. Moreover, part of the principal can be recovered, at least, it can keep the spice industry from being abandoned for the past two years."
"Once the cooperation with the Dutch is reached, kick them away. It's like a frivolous woman who has been fishing for a long time and suddenly says that she already has a sweetheart. Isn't that enough?"
"In addition to such benefits, there is another benefit."
"Put pressure on the Dutch and let them know that China does not necessarily have to cooperate with them."
After all, Li Yan smiled and said: "Jinghou is not a fan of the authorities, Jinghou is worried about opening up business and collecting money on the ground, so he has become obsessed. He doesn't want to go this way at all, so he has never thought about it in this direction. "
Facing Li Yan's evaluation, Liu Yu thought about it, and it seemed that it was true.I am really worried that I will become enchanted by one mouthful of trade...
Embarrassed, he asked solemnly, "Your Highness is taking money from a trader and taking the initiative to seize the market as I imagined... What do you think of these two ways? Which way do you support?"
(End of this chapter)
Li Yan's thoughts are almost the attitude of the vast majority of people in the DPRK and China towards going to Nanyang to make profits.
It was also the thing that Liu Yu was most worried about.
Liu Yu hates closing the door to the outside world. In Liu Yu's view, if Li Yan does this, what is the difference from closing the door to the outside world?
It's nothing more than replacing tea, porcelain, and silk with spices.
What is the use?
The ocean-going fleet cannot be trained, the sailors cannot be trained, and the market cannot be occupied.
Domestic land reform will increase Dashun's own consumption capacity and disintegrate the small peasant economy, which is [-] times more difficult than going down to Nanyang.As long as Liu Yu has a little ability to solve these problems in China, he is too lazy to go to Nanyang.
The biggest difficulty in the Nanyang issue lies within.
As far as this year is concerned, even if the Dutch East India Company has reached a cooperation with Dashun, it is impossible to ship the goods directly after the Chinese New Year next year.
In other words, if the spice trade this year is not sold to the British, it will be ruined.
But if it is sold to the British, there is still time this year. Continue to buy spices, and the British will pack them up and ship them away. The British East India Company can eat as much as Dashun inherits from the Dutch industry.
However, in this way, Dashun's journey to Nanyang has enriched himself and Britain. This is a situation that Liu Yu absolutely does not want to see.
Especially when it is about to face the scramble for India, this is the enemy.
The problem is, it takes a long view.
If the goods can be sold directly this year, at least three to five million taels of profit can be made.
Put three to five million taels, not only don't want it, but even in order to keep the spice production area from being destroyed, you may have to invest money to buy it, and then destroy it, burn it or throw it into the sea...
With such a strong contrast, it is really difficult to convince others.
Liu Yu does not form a party, but at this critical juncture, he needs to recruit a group of people who support him in the court, instead of fighting with the Confucianists himself.
Li Yan, the governor of the navy, coupled with the attitude of the emperor's son, is very important.
As for buying spices and then burning them, or piling them up in warehouses, this is also something that must be done.
Otherwise, British smugglers would seize the opportunity to collect spices from spice producing areas.
Dashun does not accept it, but the British accept it, and those who rub spices have to live, so why not sell it?
Once the British are given a chance, with the commercial capabilities and market vision of the British East India Company, after Dashun has negotiated with the Dutch, how can there be Dashun?
If the British East India Company does not take the opportunity to seize the market after the Dutch retreat, it will be hell.
The Netherlands is already very hip, and Liu Yu still expects the Netherlands and the British to fight the Fourth Anglo-Dutch War, cooperate with Dashun and France, and destroy the British fleet.
If the British are full of spices, the Netherlands will not even be qualified to be a dog.
Moreover, the financial capital of the Netherlands has long legs, and the Netherlands does not prohibit the flow of gold and silver. I am afraid that the British can buy spices from Dashun, and the financial capital will all go to London that day?
What else are you playing?It took a long time to co-author, and the purpose of going to Nanyang is to open a business and earn some hard money, so why delay going to Nanyang until this year?
Going to Nanyang ten years ago, the effect is the same.
Liu Yu thought for a while, and Li Yan walked to the accounting office of the Dutch warehouse, and asked all his followers to guard outside, and no one was allowed to come in.
Li Yan looked at this posture, and then thought about the weird and incomprehensible words Liu Yu said just now, and knew that what he was going to talk about must be a big deal.
Sure enough, when Liu Yu revealed his overall plan, Li Yan who was sitting there was completely shocked.
My own vision is only Nanyang. How could I have thought that Liu Yu would make such a big deal here?
Capture Southeast Asia, destroy the Dutch East India Company, reorganize the Dutch East India Company, seize India, contain Britain, control the maritime trade chain...
If it can be done, it will really be a great achievement!
Li Yan sat on the chair and took a few deep breaths to stabilize his pounding heart, and his heart was extremely agitated.
No matter whether this thing can be done or not, if I can participate in such a big thing, I am proud enough!
"This this……"
Even after saying the word "this" a few times, Li Yan still couldn't make a complete sentence.
Thinking about Lian Fuguang and others who felt disgusted before, I thought to myself, what are those people?
"His Royal Highness, let's calm down first. This matter is top secret and must not be mentioned to outsiders. No one can do it except Your Majesty."
Li Yan tried his best to stabilize his mind, nodded again and again: "Yes, yes, I will definitely not talk about anyone except Your Majesty. But, this matter... this matter..."
Swallowing hard, he finally choked out a complete sentence.
"How sure is Marquis Jing about this matter?"
Liu Yu stretched out five fingers, and said as calmly as possible: "Fifty percent. The fifty percent includes the two coups I participated in in Europa a few days ago, and my understanding of the mentality of those financiers in Amsterdam. If we only cooperate with the Netherlands, I'm [-]% sure."
"But working with the Dutch is only half of the plan."
"It's like the spices in Ambon. The Dutch blocked them so badly that the locals could only use spices in exchange for Dutch rice."
"If we don't collect spices and deliver rice this year, I'm afraid many people on the island will starve to death."
"If our naval blockade is not strict, the British will definitely seize the opportunity and go there to collect spices."
"If the British get the spices, the channels of the Dutch are meaningless. There is no way for us to cooperate with the UK unless we prepare to make India all British."
"Don't look at my high opinion of France's Duplex, but to be honest, he is capable, but he is French. The French navy in India is simply a fucking display, and the French will undoubtedly lose."
"India is now comparable to the chaos of the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms. The feudal vassals and towns were separated from each other. If the British were to succeed, there would be such a powerful Western country at the door of the Celestial Ceylon. Lie down and sleep soundly!"
Li Yan lowered his head and followed Liu Yu's train of thought to think carefully, and finally understood what Liu Yu said before "throw it into the sea after collecting it".
It sounds like crazy.
But if you look at it from a higher angle, not only is it not crazy, but it seems to be the only solution.
This requires a lot of money.
Therefore, Li Yan also understood why Liu Yu was so tolerant of these Nanyang tycoons, no matter how dirty their money was, he would never refuse them.
Because, it does take a lot of money.
Even, the money was not used for profit in the first year, but for loss.
Li Yan thought of what Liu Yu told him about the Ostend Company's tea incident. The Dutch East India Company spent money like crazy, selling tea at a loss, and relying on its strong capital to drive down prices, it finally won this monopoly. war.
Now it seems that this matter seems to be similar.
You have to spend money to gain a monopoly position and kill your competitors.
But now, Dashun has another advantage, that is, it controls the place of origin.All that needs to be done is to ensure that before the treaty with the Netherlands is concluded, spending money to ensure that the spice industry will not decline, will not affect the output after two years, and will not give competitors the opportunity to exploit loopholes.
Regarding monopoly, Liu Yu made it clear.
"If you want to monopolize, you have to be willing to lose money. Losing money is to make a lot of money in the future. This is just the beginning. Not only will you lose money this year, but after a few years it stabilizes and the market opens up, you have to lose again. The spice-growing industry in South America is completely ruined."
"The Dutch East India Company is old, and the old one has completely lost its aggressiveness. We are still young, and we shouldn't be so old-fashioned like the Dutch, and even sit at the door of our house and collect money. I don't like it."
"Your Highness is also a young man, so he should be aggressive. This time, I urgently need His Highness's support, because the Navy needs to make great efforts to prevent smuggling this year and prevent the British from taking advantage of loopholes."
"British smugglers are really pervasive. The Dutch have a headache, the Spaniards have a headache, and now it's our turn to have a headache."
Li Yan thought it was right, he really needed the full support of the navy.
But perhaps Liu Yu was too anxious about Britain, and Li Yan jumped out of this anxiety and suddenly thought of a solution.
"Jing Hou, I remember you said that because opium is banned in this dynasty, so the British East India Company has a decree prohibiting the company's registered ships from carrying opium, right?"
Liu Yu was taken aback, wondering why Li Yan suddenly thought of this, and subconsciously mocked: "It's useless. The company's boats don't carry them, but they do wholesale, and wholesale them to peddlers for them to transport. Same?"
Li Yan clapped his hands and said, "Even if it's just a formality, it can be seen that the British have concerns. Now that Britain and France are fighting in India, the Celestial Dynasty has already acquired Ceylon and has a fleet. If that's the case, why not use it?"
"Trick? Where does the trick come from?"
"A plan to slow down the troops!"
Father, like son.
As soon as Li Yan finished speaking these four words, Liu Yu suddenly woke up.
Sure enough, Li Yan said: "Spice is a piece of fat. Hou Jing's idea, and cooperation with the Dutch, this is a wonderful pen, and the sword is slanted."
"Since that's the case, why don't you use this fat to lure you? It's a strategy of delaying the army, so that the British will be wary of rats?"
"Let's say the Dutch are gone, and the spice has to sell. Right?"
"There are only a few that can be sold. How about those frivolous women catching men, making them feel like they can eat it at any time, and they almost can't eat it, so that they can make them feel that they can get it if they behave well."
"At that time, the British must restrain their subordinates and stop smuggling for the time being, lest the Chinese government take the opportunity to deny the British the opportunity to eat spices."
"Moreover, you can also take out the spices and ask several companies to share one share. For example, the United Kingdom shares some; France shares some; Sweden shares some; Denmark shares some; Portugal shares some... and so on. Moreover, part of the principal can be recovered, at least, it can keep the spice industry from being abandoned for the past two years."
"Once the cooperation with the Dutch is reached, kick them away. It's like a frivolous woman who has been fishing for a long time and suddenly says that she already has a sweetheart. Isn't that enough?"
"In addition to such benefits, there is another benefit."
"Put pressure on the Dutch and let them know that China does not necessarily have to cooperate with them."
After all, Li Yan smiled and said: "Jinghou is not a fan of the authorities, Jinghou is worried about opening up business and collecting money on the ground, so he has become obsessed. He doesn't want to go this way at all, so he has never thought about it in this direction. "
Facing Li Yan's evaluation, Liu Yu thought about it, and it seemed that it was true.I am really worried that I will become enchanted by one mouthful of trade...
Embarrassed, he asked solemnly, "Your Highness is taking money from a trader and taking the initiative to seize the market as I imagined... What do you think of these two ways? Which way do you support?"
(End of this chapter)
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