Xinshun 1730
Chapter 78
Chapter 78
For a moment Liu Yu wasn't quite sure what the emperor meant, and thought in his heart that if he paid compensation, he wouldn't even think about it.
Luo Sha is very poor and has no money to pay.
Besides, the person in power now is still a "regent" with a bad reputation, so he won't lose money. Is it possible that Dashun can still fight to Lake Baikal?
It was five or six thousand miles away from the rear, and even if Huo Qubing came back to life, he would not be able to win the battle. He had to attack the fort, fight in the field, guard against the Cossacks stealing grain, and leave the rear for five thousand miles. To capture Irkutsk and wipe out Russia's mobile forces in Siberia in field battles before winter comes... If you lack one, you will lose.
There are no more than three or five scattered castles in the Heilongjiang River Basin.
Besides, Liu Yu felt that if he were the emperor, not only would he not need to pay compensation, but he would also have to take out another 30 taels.
Give 15 taels to the negotiating earl, 10 taels to "Regent" Menshikov, and the remaining [-] taels to allow Russia to retreat a little on the south bank of Lake Baikal and let Dashun build a fortress in the valley of the Selenga River .
It's a pity that there is already a hat of "Old Things in Song and Liao Dynasty". If you give 30 taels of "year-old coins" instead, the sense of sight will be too strong, and you will definitely be drowned in saliva when you come back.
But if it is trade, then there is another story.
"Your Majesty, I dare to ask you a question. Is this money...is it hidden from the people? Or is it returned to the state treasury? Or is it returned to Your Majesty's internal funds?"
The emperor didn't make any fuss, and replied two words directly.
"Internal funds"
"For domestic money...the minister has three strategies."
As far as the three strategies are up, middle and down, the upper strategy is definitely profitable but also risky, and the lower strategy is relatively stable but has the least risk.
"Let's talk about the middle policy first."
"If it's the right strategy, His Majesty can sell the exclusive monopoly right. Open up a trading port with the Raksha Kingdom, and allow merchants in Xijing and Shanxi to monopolize the trade with Raksha. They will pay a certain amount of silver every year."
"Is there a but?"
"There are... firstly, there is little money; secondly, merchants must collude with the frontier army; thirdly, merchants travel to Mongolia all the year round, and it is easy to quarrel with Mongolian nobles; It is not beneficial for Nuer Gandusi to find out the reality of the country; five things are not beneficial to Nuer Gandusi, and merchants will definitely go to Hebei, Shanxi, and Mongolia, and will not go far away to Nuer Gandusi."
"What's more... This is tantamount to bloodshed from the frontier army, contributions from the Beijing camp, money from the south of the Yangtze River, and service from the east of Liaodong. The humble officials and the officials of the state of Qi bear the infamy, but all the benefits go to those businessmen."
After hearing so much from Liu Yu, the emperor was still a little shaken.
Because of this middle strategy, except for those "buts", it is really the most worry-free and the easiest.
Don't worry about anything, as long as the Chamber of Commerce pays the money on time every year.
The key is that you don't need to go through the hand several times, you get ten points when you collect ten points, and there is no room for drift.
Lessons learned from the previous dynasty, Huangzhuang should not take up too much land, and the land of Zhuming Huangzhuang had to be used to support a group of old five battalions "honored veterans" who were used as the basic plate; and because of Taizong's legacy, eunuchs could not be reused, 24 A lot of yamen and the like have also been abolished, and there is really not much money in the internal funds.
"As you said, how much money can you charge in a year like this?"
"It's hard to say. Now the Raksha people mainly want rhubarb and tea, but the trade will definitely increase in the future. This is the first problem that Wei Chen said: lack of money. This year will be the same, next year will be the same, and it will be the same in a hundred years. They monopolize After that, outsiders can't intervene in the up and down management, and it is even more impossible to know how much the trade volume is."
There is also a more explicit question that Liu Yu didn't mention, even if the emperor wanted to raise fattened pigs and wait for the New Year's slaughter, it would not be so easy to kill.At that time, they will be hooked together, and if there is a slight disturbance, they can really run.
Before the Aurora cannon fired, Shanxi businessmen who traded with Russia bought an entire street in Petersburg.I don't stay here, I go to invest in Rakshasa, the capital has no roots, and I can slip away at any time.
As for the trade volume, Liu Yu estimated that the trade volume with Russia must be increasing every year.
Now Russia has a large demand for tea and rhubarb, and the government monopolizes it to meet the expenses of the huge army left by Peter.
But in the future, apart from these things, Russians can buy many things from Dashun.
With the arrival of American gold and silver to Europe, there was a price revolution in Europe.
Rising prices, accelerated urbanization, and demand for grain and meat in Western Europe prompted the reslavery of Eastern Europe to serve as an exporter of grain and raw materials to Western Europe.
Peter I changed his fate against the sky, and then there were SSR figures such as Catherine II and Stolypin. Even after World War I, when the self-determination and independence of the nation was surging, Lenin used the universal class to fight against the nation Russia's independence lasted for 70 years before it was broken, and Russia finally returned to the historical necessity of global trade that was destined in the eighteenth century-the exporter of raw materials.
This is life.
Even if Peter I changed his fate against the sky in today's Russia, the historical trend is still difficult to reverse.
The rising food prices in Western Europe, the increasing demand for timber and livestock, and the spread of the technology of the Western European Agricultural Revolution all made it very profitable for the nobles who banned serfs, and agriculture showed a distorted expansion.
High food prices, serfs were bound to produce food, a large amount of food was exported, food prices were higher, industry and commerce lacked manpower, and the increase in food prices led to increased urban costs, making it difficult for industry and commerce to develop.
As long as the trade is stable, cotton cloth, woolen cloth, silk cloth, raw silk, porcelain, rock sugar...even the military uniforms of "gray cattle" can all be exported in large quantities.
Under the influence of the price revolution and re-serfization, even if the cotton cloth was transported from Hebei to Irkutsk, it was still cheaper than the local production at this time.
Not to mention Russia, which is backward. At this time, India's homespun cloth and the British cotton textile industry, which is thousands of miles away, can't stand up.The traditional handicraft industry in Asia will not be completely defeated by Western Europe until a hundred years later, but now the traditional advantages are still there, regardless of cost or quality.
These are all money.
In fact, Liu Yu would always say this no matter if the emperor asked about any strategy first.
As for whether it is up, middle or down, it just depends on how he says it.
Liu Yu wanted to test it out, he had said so many "buts", which one did the emperor care about the most.
Since the emperor first asked how much money he could collect every year, if Liu Yu really wanted it, he could focus on the question of "money".
But he still didn't say the way he wanted to say the most, but went around in circles and said: "Your Majesty, if you take the wrong policy, you will violate the precepts of your ancestors and restore the 24 yamen in the Ming Dynasty. For Rakshasa trade, it goes directly to His Majesty's money."
Liu Yu dared to say this, but the emperor dared not use it.
After all, Li Laiheng is Li Guo's adoptive son rather than his own son. Unless it is really difficult for Li Guo's legacy, such as "not using eunuchs and using female officials", the rest should basically be followed.
If this is the 24 yamen of the previous dynasty, and the eunuchs go out of Beijing to directly take charge of the royal trade, the civil servants will definitely go to the mausoleum to cry.
"The worst policy will never work. What about the best policy?"
"If it's the best policy, we can open the east and west ports of trade with Luocha. Your Majesty's internal money will be used as the share capital, and it will be in the form of a Western monopoly company, and the merchants will also contribute the share capital. As for how to operate, Your Majesty doesn't care, as long as the dividends are distributed according to the share capital. That's it."
Liu Yu had already paved the way for this matter in "A Brief Study of the Western Countries" before, and then roughly talked about the issue of Russian serfdom caused by the price revolution, proving that trade with Russia will definitely continue to grow, and it is not just rhubarb and tea.
This problem can be explained in a more simple way, and the emperor can roughly understand it. He was surprised that Liu Yu's way of analyzing the problem was extremely weird, but it was very reasonable when he thought about it carefully.
At this time, there was no time to think about it, and Liu Yu continued to talk about the benefits.
"That's why, the trade volume increases every year, and the annual income can also increase. After ten years, the trade with Rakshasa alone should make a profit of around 40 to [-] taels."
"Furthermore, His Majesty rewarded the Mongolian aristocrats with silver, and they had nowhere to spend, so they must buy goods. With the opening of ports on the western front, merchants can go northward from Hebei and Shanxi, along Mongolia. Along the way, they can earn back the silver rewarded by the court to the Mongolian aristocrats." .”
"Three, His Majesty can also send people to follow, go deep into Mongolia, and be able to keep track of the movements of the Mongolian nobles at any time."
"Fourth, the Mongolian nobles can't be nomads, and their lives are getting more and more corrupt. There will definitely be a time when they are short of money. At that time, lending money to them can not only earn interest, but also control them. When necessary, they will accept their tribes in the name of debt. Meadow."
"Fifth, the world's hustle and bustle is for profit, and the world's hustle and bustle is for profit. Smuggling is hard to stop. It's not as good as water, just follow the trend."
"Sixth, in the future to conquer Junggar, we can also use the strength of these merchants to help them transport grain."
"Seventh, businessmen are making more profits, Shanxi has less land, and Xijing is suppressing mergers. Most of the money is concentrated. If there is an urgent need for money in the court, you can also follow the example of Westerners and issue national bonds. In the future, you can pay dividends slowly in the future. Prepare for emergencies."
"Eighth, such as tobacco, strong alcohol, etc., if everyone in the Mongolian tribes is allowed to drink alcohol and smoke, they can sell a lot of money every year and weaken their people."
"Nine things... such as pots, pans and pans used by herdsmen on weekdays, are all wholesaled to Mongolian compradors to sell them in the territory for profit. In this way, the Mongolian poor can avoid the resentment of the Han merchants, and only hate them The leader oppresses the daily suffering, and the comprador is not benevolent. In order to prevent the leader from using the businessman to seek profit in the future to provoke conflicts between the two ethnic groups in order to seek self-reliance."
"In the future, we will use class struggle...uh, in the name of helping and promoting ordinary people, and give favors, so that the herdsmen will all know that Han officials are good but leaders are evil, and Han merchants are benevolent and compradors are violent. In the future, the system can also be slowly reformed. Or take their fiefs and transform them into officials, and divide their pastures into dozens of small divisions."
The four words he was used to saying almost blurted out, but fortunately, in order to help Dousheng Xiaomin, his heart beat wildly in secret, and he broke out in sweat.
"In less than 20 years, there are footprints of Han merchants everywhere on the Mongolian Plateau. Where is the well, where is the river, where is the grass, where is the sand, and even the character, property, hobbies, and family affairs of the leaders of the tribes. You can know it all."
"In addition, it is difficult for the Raksha people to penetrate into Mongolia. The border is opened and strictly controlled. In the caravan accompanied by the children's army spies, even if the Raksha people still have dissatisfaction with Mongolia, it is difficult to influence them. If you are closer and more familiar with the caravan that you meet every day, if you owe debts, it will be easier to say."
"Control Mongolia with business, benefit the people with grace, and weaken the chieftain with luxury."
"Our dynasty's strategy to control Mongolia, although it originated from the Later Jin Dynasty, is very different from the Later Jin Dynasty."
"Those who built captives used the Manchu and Mongolian family to rule the Han Dynasty, so as to value their nobles; those who built our dynasty should benefit the people and control the old nobles, and take their hearts slowly. The old wisdom of abolishing scholars, vacating land, setting up imperial examinations, and suppressing mergers——Use the power of the upper and lower to control the middle.”
(End of this chapter)
For a moment Liu Yu wasn't quite sure what the emperor meant, and thought in his heart that if he paid compensation, he wouldn't even think about it.
Luo Sha is very poor and has no money to pay.
Besides, the person in power now is still a "regent" with a bad reputation, so he won't lose money. Is it possible that Dashun can still fight to Lake Baikal?
It was five or six thousand miles away from the rear, and even if Huo Qubing came back to life, he would not be able to win the battle. He had to attack the fort, fight in the field, guard against the Cossacks stealing grain, and leave the rear for five thousand miles. To capture Irkutsk and wipe out Russia's mobile forces in Siberia in field battles before winter comes... If you lack one, you will lose.
There are no more than three or five scattered castles in the Heilongjiang River Basin.
Besides, Liu Yu felt that if he were the emperor, not only would he not need to pay compensation, but he would also have to take out another 30 taels.
Give 15 taels to the negotiating earl, 10 taels to "Regent" Menshikov, and the remaining [-] taels to allow Russia to retreat a little on the south bank of Lake Baikal and let Dashun build a fortress in the valley of the Selenga River .
It's a pity that there is already a hat of "Old Things in Song and Liao Dynasty". If you give 30 taels of "year-old coins" instead, the sense of sight will be too strong, and you will definitely be drowned in saliva when you come back.
But if it is trade, then there is another story.
"Your Majesty, I dare to ask you a question. Is this money...is it hidden from the people? Or is it returned to the state treasury? Or is it returned to Your Majesty's internal funds?"
The emperor didn't make any fuss, and replied two words directly.
"Internal funds"
"For domestic money...the minister has three strategies."
As far as the three strategies are up, middle and down, the upper strategy is definitely profitable but also risky, and the lower strategy is relatively stable but has the least risk.
"Let's talk about the middle policy first."
"If it's the right strategy, His Majesty can sell the exclusive monopoly right. Open up a trading port with the Raksha Kingdom, and allow merchants in Xijing and Shanxi to monopolize the trade with Raksha. They will pay a certain amount of silver every year."
"Is there a but?"
"There are... firstly, there is little money; secondly, merchants must collude with the frontier army; thirdly, merchants travel to Mongolia all the year round, and it is easy to quarrel with Mongolian nobles; It is not beneficial for Nuer Gandusi to find out the reality of the country; five things are not beneficial to Nuer Gandusi, and merchants will definitely go to Hebei, Shanxi, and Mongolia, and will not go far away to Nuer Gandusi."
"What's more... This is tantamount to bloodshed from the frontier army, contributions from the Beijing camp, money from the south of the Yangtze River, and service from the east of Liaodong. The humble officials and the officials of the state of Qi bear the infamy, but all the benefits go to those businessmen."
After hearing so much from Liu Yu, the emperor was still a little shaken.
Because of this middle strategy, except for those "buts", it is really the most worry-free and the easiest.
Don't worry about anything, as long as the Chamber of Commerce pays the money on time every year.
The key is that you don't need to go through the hand several times, you get ten points when you collect ten points, and there is no room for drift.
Lessons learned from the previous dynasty, Huangzhuang should not take up too much land, and the land of Zhuming Huangzhuang had to be used to support a group of old five battalions "honored veterans" who were used as the basic plate; and because of Taizong's legacy, eunuchs could not be reused, 24 A lot of yamen and the like have also been abolished, and there is really not much money in the internal funds.
"As you said, how much money can you charge in a year like this?"
"It's hard to say. Now the Raksha people mainly want rhubarb and tea, but the trade will definitely increase in the future. This is the first problem that Wei Chen said: lack of money. This year will be the same, next year will be the same, and it will be the same in a hundred years. They monopolize After that, outsiders can't intervene in the up and down management, and it is even more impossible to know how much the trade volume is."
There is also a more explicit question that Liu Yu didn't mention, even if the emperor wanted to raise fattened pigs and wait for the New Year's slaughter, it would not be so easy to kill.At that time, they will be hooked together, and if there is a slight disturbance, they can really run.
Before the Aurora cannon fired, Shanxi businessmen who traded with Russia bought an entire street in Petersburg.I don't stay here, I go to invest in Rakshasa, the capital has no roots, and I can slip away at any time.
As for the trade volume, Liu Yu estimated that the trade volume with Russia must be increasing every year.
Now Russia has a large demand for tea and rhubarb, and the government monopolizes it to meet the expenses of the huge army left by Peter.
But in the future, apart from these things, Russians can buy many things from Dashun.
With the arrival of American gold and silver to Europe, there was a price revolution in Europe.
Rising prices, accelerated urbanization, and demand for grain and meat in Western Europe prompted the reslavery of Eastern Europe to serve as an exporter of grain and raw materials to Western Europe.
Peter I changed his fate against the sky, and then there were SSR figures such as Catherine II and Stolypin. Even after World War I, when the self-determination and independence of the nation was surging, Lenin used the universal class to fight against the nation Russia's independence lasted for 70 years before it was broken, and Russia finally returned to the historical necessity of global trade that was destined in the eighteenth century-the exporter of raw materials.
This is life.
Even if Peter I changed his fate against the sky in today's Russia, the historical trend is still difficult to reverse.
The rising food prices in Western Europe, the increasing demand for timber and livestock, and the spread of the technology of the Western European Agricultural Revolution all made it very profitable for the nobles who banned serfs, and agriculture showed a distorted expansion.
High food prices, serfs were bound to produce food, a large amount of food was exported, food prices were higher, industry and commerce lacked manpower, and the increase in food prices led to increased urban costs, making it difficult for industry and commerce to develop.
As long as the trade is stable, cotton cloth, woolen cloth, silk cloth, raw silk, porcelain, rock sugar...even the military uniforms of "gray cattle" can all be exported in large quantities.
Under the influence of the price revolution and re-serfization, even if the cotton cloth was transported from Hebei to Irkutsk, it was still cheaper than the local production at this time.
Not to mention Russia, which is backward. At this time, India's homespun cloth and the British cotton textile industry, which is thousands of miles away, can't stand up.The traditional handicraft industry in Asia will not be completely defeated by Western Europe until a hundred years later, but now the traditional advantages are still there, regardless of cost or quality.
These are all money.
In fact, Liu Yu would always say this no matter if the emperor asked about any strategy first.
As for whether it is up, middle or down, it just depends on how he says it.
Liu Yu wanted to test it out, he had said so many "buts", which one did the emperor care about the most.
Since the emperor first asked how much money he could collect every year, if Liu Yu really wanted it, he could focus on the question of "money".
But he still didn't say the way he wanted to say the most, but went around in circles and said: "Your Majesty, if you take the wrong policy, you will violate the precepts of your ancestors and restore the 24 yamen in the Ming Dynasty. For Rakshasa trade, it goes directly to His Majesty's money."
Liu Yu dared to say this, but the emperor dared not use it.
After all, Li Laiheng is Li Guo's adoptive son rather than his own son. Unless it is really difficult for Li Guo's legacy, such as "not using eunuchs and using female officials", the rest should basically be followed.
If this is the 24 yamen of the previous dynasty, and the eunuchs go out of Beijing to directly take charge of the royal trade, the civil servants will definitely go to the mausoleum to cry.
"The worst policy will never work. What about the best policy?"
"If it's the best policy, we can open the east and west ports of trade with Luocha. Your Majesty's internal money will be used as the share capital, and it will be in the form of a Western monopoly company, and the merchants will also contribute the share capital. As for how to operate, Your Majesty doesn't care, as long as the dividends are distributed according to the share capital. That's it."
Liu Yu had already paved the way for this matter in "A Brief Study of the Western Countries" before, and then roughly talked about the issue of Russian serfdom caused by the price revolution, proving that trade with Russia will definitely continue to grow, and it is not just rhubarb and tea.
This problem can be explained in a more simple way, and the emperor can roughly understand it. He was surprised that Liu Yu's way of analyzing the problem was extremely weird, but it was very reasonable when he thought about it carefully.
At this time, there was no time to think about it, and Liu Yu continued to talk about the benefits.
"That's why, the trade volume increases every year, and the annual income can also increase. After ten years, the trade with Rakshasa alone should make a profit of around 40 to [-] taels."
"Furthermore, His Majesty rewarded the Mongolian aristocrats with silver, and they had nowhere to spend, so they must buy goods. With the opening of ports on the western front, merchants can go northward from Hebei and Shanxi, along Mongolia. Along the way, they can earn back the silver rewarded by the court to the Mongolian aristocrats." .”
"Three, His Majesty can also send people to follow, go deep into Mongolia, and be able to keep track of the movements of the Mongolian nobles at any time."
"Fourth, the Mongolian nobles can't be nomads, and their lives are getting more and more corrupt. There will definitely be a time when they are short of money. At that time, lending money to them can not only earn interest, but also control them. When necessary, they will accept their tribes in the name of debt. Meadow."
"Fifth, the world's hustle and bustle is for profit, and the world's hustle and bustle is for profit. Smuggling is hard to stop. It's not as good as water, just follow the trend."
"Sixth, in the future to conquer Junggar, we can also use the strength of these merchants to help them transport grain."
"Seventh, businessmen are making more profits, Shanxi has less land, and Xijing is suppressing mergers. Most of the money is concentrated. If there is an urgent need for money in the court, you can also follow the example of Westerners and issue national bonds. In the future, you can pay dividends slowly in the future. Prepare for emergencies."
"Eighth, such as tobacco, strong alcohol, etc., if everyone in the Mongolian tribes is allowed to drink alcohol and smoke, they can sell a lot of money every year and weaken their people."
"Nine things... such as pots, pans and pans used by herdsmen on weekdays, are all wholesaled to Mongolian compradors to sell them in the territory for profit. In this way, the Mongolian poor can avoid the resentment of the Han merchants, and only hate them The leader oppresses the daily suffering, and the comprador is not benevolent. In order to prevent the leader from using the businessman to seek profit in the future to provoke conflicts between the two ethnic groups in order to seek self-reliance."
"In the future, we will use class struggle...uh, in the name of helping and promoting ordinary people, and give favors, so that the herdsmen will all know that Han officials are good but leaders are evil, and Han merchants are benevolent and compradors are violent. In the future, the system can also be slowly reformed. Or take their fiefs and transform them into officials, and divide their pastures into dozens of small divisions."
The four words he was used to saying almost blurted out, but fortunately, in order to help Dousheng Xiaomin, his heart beat wildly in secret, and he broke out in sweat.
"In less than 20 years, there are footprints of Han merchants everywhere on the Mongolian Plateau. Where is the well, where is the river, where is the grass, where is the sand, and even the character, property, hobbies, and family affairs of the leaders of the tribes. You can know it all."
"In addition, it is difficult for the Raksha people to penetrate into Mongolia. The border is opened and strictly controlled. In the caravan accompanied by the children's army spies, even if the Raksha people still have dissatisfaction with Mongolia, it is difficult to influence them. If you are closer and more familiar with the caravan that you meet every day, if you owe debts, it will be easier to say."
"Control Mongolia with business, benefit the people with grace, and weaken the chieftain with luxury."
"Our dynasty's strategy to control Mongolia, although it originated from the Later Jin Dynasty, is very different from the Later Jin Dynasty."
"Those who built captives used the Manchu and Mongolian family to rule the Han Dynasty, so as to value their nobles; those who built our dynasty should benefit the people and control the old nobles, and take their hearts slowly. The old wisdom of abolishing scholars, vacating land, setting up imperial examinations, and suppressing mergers——Use the power of the upper and lower to control the middle.”
(End of this chapter)
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