Xinshun 1730

Chapter 863 Delusions
Of course they know the difference between "Juyi Hall" and "Loyalty Hall".

"Hehehehe..."

After Lin Yunwen and the others laughed awkwardly, Liu Yu said again: "So it's still an example of Wang Jinggong's Qingmiao method. Some things, if the court turns a blind eye, it's okay. But there are some things, if the court itself If you do, it’s not good.”

"How do you go to Nanyang now? You are all rich merchants, maybe you don't know the life of the bottom class. Even if the bottom class people want to go to Nanyang, it's hard to say whether they can make up enough money to walk from Fucheng to the sea. After leaving, my parents starved to death at home. , sell your daughter to the old bustard to raise money?"

"Instead of this, it is better to encourage people to recruit workers."

"If you want to encourage, then you have to make some money. Businessmen only have money in their eyes. As long as they have money, they will do it."

"So don't doubt this or that. This is a good thing for you, a good thing for the court, and even a good thing for the people who have suffered from 300 years of water transportation. The only ones who suffer are the moths along the water transportation. You Don't worry."

"How to send you money, you are still confused?"

Counting down the number of these businessmen, dozens of businessmen looked at me and I looked at you, and there was nothing to say for a while except for embarrassed laughter.

Liu Yu continued: "Actually, the manpower in the Huanghuai area is cheaper than that in Fujian and Guangdong. However, it is convenient to go to Nanyang in Fujian and Guangdong, but it is impossible to go to Nanyang in the Central Plains."

"So there needs to be a transit, an opportunity. That's you."

"Actually, I don't need to say how to do this kind of thing, you all know it in your heart. As long as you make an offer, there will be brokers and dealers to help you. You just need to pay an intermediary fee, and the money is counted according to the head."

"But if you don't recruit them, they are located in the heart, where do you think they can go? Northeast, Western Regions, Kenmeng, they can't go, they are too far away; going to Nanyang, it is difficult to swim along the Yellow River to the sea, and then swim to the sea. Nanyang?"

"If they don't leave, they will either starve to death, or be suppressed and slaughtered when they riot."

"Going to Nanyang is convenient for the people of Fujian and Guangdong to go to Nanyang spontaneously, but it can't solve the difficulty of survival for the people of Huanghuai. It's up to you to come forward."

"I am reluctant to spend money. Immigration is a disaster, and it is easy to trigger an uprising."

"Willing to spend money...even if you haven't done anything, and haven't cheated, the court can't afford the money?"

Lin Yunwen thought for a while and asked, "We also understand what the Duke means."

"We are businessmen. We can't see what the imperial court thinks, so we judge others by ourselves, thinking that the imperial court also counts every penny."

"It's not true."

"For the imperial court, it reduced the burden of water transportation, relieved the people of the Huanghuai River, and enabled a large number of people to go to Nanyang to reduce the conflict between people and land."

"What we think is earning money is money."

"The imperial court thinks that Huang Huai is safe and secure."

"Is that so?"

"It's like a person wants to torture a dung beetle, so he forces the dung beetle to eat shit. He thinks it's torture, but he doesn't want the dung beetle to think it's a reward? Our thoughts, and the thoughts of the court, are just like the thoughts of dung beetles, which are different from people's. idea?"

This metaphor of deliberately belittling his own group of businessmen made Liu Yu want to laugh, but it was inconvenient to laugh, so he could only say: "The words are rough, but if you want to say that, it's not impossible. You can discuss it, let's talk about it first. Are you willing to do it, and then we will talk about the details."

"Just right, now that the matter of the Western Trading Company is completed, after a while, all of you, as well as large and small shareholders, with more than 3000 taels, will all go to Nanyang to have a look. I will prepare the boat and organize you to go. "

There is no way to avoid Liu Yu when discussing things on this occasion.But since they are talking about business and these people only talk about interests, there is really no need to avoid Liu Yu.

The news that the land in Nanyang is fertile, especially in Java, has not been publicized for a day or two.

Moreover, Taiwan has gradually developed over the years, and many people go there to recruit people to reclaim wasteland. The newly reclaimed land and the climate make the output really high.

These businessmen are not stupid, and they have always known the imperial court's attitude towards annexation.But when they went out to sea and arrived in Nanyang, the imperial court didn't seem to have this consideration.

If they were asked to pay for the reclamation of the Western Regions, they would definitely not pay a penny.They don't have the hobby of "collecting land", and land is just a profitable tool for them.

Before developing Ezo, they also invested money, and the rate of return was not bad.

Relying on the Japanese market, some people have really gained weight in the past few years, and the return on shares is not bad, not low.

Fish and shrimp, grain and soybeans, combined with Japan's original maritime merchants who specialize in the Northeast route, made a lot of money.

But after all, Ezo Development is a joint-stock company.

This Nanyang Caomi is somewhat similar to the "imperial merchants" that these people are least willing to touch-it is not that there have been similar things before, such as before Liu Yu went to Japan, such as before the development of the copper mine in Yunnan, the imperial court is copper deficient.If there is a lack of copper, there is no way to make money, so this kind of comprador method is also used to pay people to go to Japan to buy copper-but the ending is not very good.

On the one hand, it was Arai Shiraishi who tightened the policy.

On the other hand, Arai Shiraishi used some tricks to get the Ningbo, Zhangzhou, and Fuzhou gangs to get involved first, and gave the pricing power to the Japanese businessmen.

It can be said that this situation was not reversed until Liu Yu "sent charcoal in the snow" and obtained most of the trade licenses in Edo, and regained the pricing power.

Before that, at the beginning, the comprador fee given by the imperial court must have been earned.If you don't make money, who will take over the job?
But later, it became less and less profitable.

What should we do at this time?
This matter is not a normal business at all, it is a comprador hooked up with the imperial court, if you say you don't do it, don't do it?

If you quit, how will the officials in charge of this matter explain to the court?If you quit, you will involve many people.

This is not a joint-stock company either. They felt that the market was not good, so they sold all their shares in advance for cash.

At that time, either use money to bribe them, ask the court to let them go, and find someone else; or lose all the little money they earned before.

The businessmen present were generally unwilling to touch such a thing.

Moreover, any comprador chartered by the imperial court is obliged to donate once the imperial court spends money.

In this point, there is a default truth in it: just like a salt merchant, the imperial court gives you the opportunity to monopolize and make you money.But when the imperial court is short of money, it also has to pick from you.

Therefore, these businessmen in Songjiang Mansion really don't like to touch this kind of thing.The business atmosphere of Songjiang Mansion over the years also made them prefer the joint-stock cooperation model.

Although the matter of Caomi is not the same as buying copper back then, it makes them a little uneasy after all.

Once stained, it is easy to have trouble in the future.

After all, this thing is a little like copper.

For copper, it is best to mint some money and make do with it. It is really impossible to issue treasure notes.

Caomi is related to the capital and the stability of the imperial court. If something goes wrong with Caomi, it is not a matter of losing some money like comprador copper materials.

However, the profits here really make them greedy.

Rice with an average price of one tael, one stone, can make a fortune no matter how you look at it.

What's more, he can still get some land in the Nanyang Circle, and earn tens of thousands of acres of land for nothing in the future.

They know whether the price of rice is expensive or not.

They also know the approximate price of Nanyang rice and why the price of rice is sometimes expensive.

For those who have already started to participate in Western trade, transporting rice from Nanyang to Tianjin port is not much different from going to Japan, and it is Japan after the opening of the Nagasaki direct route.

What Liu Yu said was also very thorough. The imperial court did not want to give this money to small farmers, nor did they want to set up a small farmers model, because it would be troublesome to manage.

Just give a farmer 24 taels of silver and ask him to reclaim the land. After removing the money for buying cattle and farm tools, what is left?Can we see rice this year?

Even if farmers can jump, they don't have to think about how to get to Nanyang.Let's just say that they jumped directly to Nanyang and planted rice. How much is the collection cost?How many people are needed to manage the collection?How many problems and corruption will there be?
Now the imperial court is directly acting as the shopkeeper and paying money, as long as the rice is seen in Tianjin Port at that time.I can't see it, there are a total of one hundred and ten people, and it is easy to manage.

The merchants also understood that the court was using them as a buffer, in fact, it was tacitly acquiescing to their control of immigration.

For example, if you sign a long-term contract and escape before the contract expires, the imperial court will probably help you catch them back.Do it according to the contract.

It's one thing for the imperial court to implement the Green Crop Law, lend money by itself, and force people to sell their children and daughters when they can't get back the money.

Private lending, the loan cannot be repaid, and the house is sentenced to the creditor, which is another matter.

Of course, if it is really squeezed too hard, when something big happens, the imperial court will come forward to appease.

After all, it's about Cao Mi.

In general, businessmen feel that it is still beneficial to them.The most important point is that as long as the navy warships are there, no matter how bad they are, they can still buy rice. Even if they earn less, they will not be unable to buy rice.

And if the warship is gone, the imperial court will not be so stupid as to stop the canal and continue to entrust the safety of Caomi in Nanyang.

After discussing for a while, everyone came to a basically unanimous opinion.

Do it, big profits.Earn tens of thousands of acres of land for nothing.

However, how to do it, you can still bargain with Liu Yu.

"Grandpa, the last time he developed Ezo, he mentioned the model of the Virginia company. We have seen a lot and learned a lot over the years. It is said that three people must have my teacher, and learn from Yidi's skills... Then, this Nanyang, why not make it into a Virginia company model? Or...can it be made into a limited liability system?"

Liu Yu, who was drinking tea, squirted out the tea with a puff.

"Limited liability?"

"Caomi, you want to implement a limited liability system? No, you guys are arguing, but can you come up with some Yangjian opinions?"

"This matter is already a huge concession. Don't think that the business environment of Songjiang Mansion for the past 20 years is just as it should be."

"Everything else is easy to say, I can still fight for it. Only this Caomi, do you think the court will allow this?"

"The development of Yezo, can it be the same as Nanyang rice? On the side of Yezo, it is purely about money, and the imperial court also collects some monopoly money. Is rice just about money?"

"It's about Caomi. The imperial court can only accept this kind of conservative official-business comprador system at best. It's easy to say anything else, but this is absolutely impossible. I can even say that the imperial court can accept Caomi's official-business comprador system. It’s a huge concession, the kind of concession that has reached the horizon.”

"For the safety of the rice, the imperial court can acquiesce in the corruption of officials big and small on both sides of the canal. As long as the rice is delivered, everything else is easy to talk about. Don't make it seem like you are not a Dashun person after doing overseas trade for a few years."

(End of this chapter)