The road to technology
Chapter 818 The Cage of Destiny
Chapter 818 The Cage of Destiny
However, as soon as she finished speaking, she heard Yue Yuanzhou turn around and said, "Actually, it's not impossible, but it's just that human beings can't do it at present. Dr. Banks, you should have heard the idiom 'you have a plan in your chest'. I used the method of "expressing my heart directly" when expressing "a bamboo in my chest", so I think it is no different from the writing of Qiwen."
Louise Banks: "..." These two people are here to argue, right?In fact, her first impression at the time was that it was a bit similar to that logotype, but later she knew that it was not exactly the same.
Gary Donnelly: "&#*&@!% shit??"
Colonel Weber: "???"
In fact, Yue Yuanzhou is not aware of the relationship between Qiwen and the concept of time, because he has never watched the relevant plot, otherwise he would not have said so.
Of course, since he said so, in fact, it can be done if he wants to, as long as he compresses all the information of a sentence he wants to say into one moment, it's the same as the supernatural power on the side of cultivating immortals.
"Dr. Banks, do you have any other discoveries?" Yue Yuanzhou asked. He thought there should be some information that Banks hadn't recorded in files or computers.
Hearing his words, Banks made a movement: pulled his face, spread his hands, shrugged.
All in one go!
Louise Banks felt that she really didn't want to say anything when she met these two gangsters. She was already complaining about Colonel Weber in her heart, complaining that he invited these two people, although she knew that Weber didn't do it.
In fact, Louise really has other discoveries, that is, she feels that she has hallucinations occasionally recently, and then sees a little girl. She has a faint feeling that it is her own child, but she still doesn't know what happened. So I don't want to talk about it.
She has not discovered that this is caused by the influence of the heptapod language B. In fact, the reason for her poor mental state also stems from this. She is afraid that if she tells it, Colonel Weber will not let her participate in this matter if he finds out. For a language For scientists, the temptation to study extraterrestrial writing was too great, and she didn't want to pass up the opportunity.
"Dr. Donnelly, where are you?" Yue Yuanzhou didn't doubt that he was there, and turned to Gary who was beside him.
Yue Yuanzhou originally thought that the communication between an alien race was nothing more than a big deal. He had seen a lot of aliens, and he didn't see anyone who couldn't communicate.Just like the space principal of the Super Theological Seminary, he couldn't speak clearly at the beginning, but after being beaten by the neutron war star, he became able to speak clearly, and he was no longer confused.
But now, Yue Yuanzhou faintly feels that this heptapod is different from other alien civilizations he has seen, at least their writing is very interesting.
Although many places are similar to Chinese, there are also many differences. Yue Yuanzhou is now very interested in different places.
Speaking of his major, Gary Donnelly immediately woke up from a state of slumber. He stroked his beard and said, "We have a common language with him in arithmetic, but we hit the rocks when it comes to geometry and algebra. At first we thought it was the structure of the heptapod's body, and then changed our planar coordinate system to a spherical system, but the heptapod did not understand our intention."
"Oh, we also found that their mirrors and our displays are in a different technology field, they work on very different principles, they don't use pixels or scan lines, and the refresh method is not based on frame-by-frame scanning.
Based on this discovery, we thought about whether we could communicate in the most concrete and tangible aspects, such as in the names of the elements. In fact, the heptapods understood the periodic table we showed, but when we got into the more abstract Domain, heptapods don't know what we are talking about. "
Yue Yuanzhou nodded and said, "You have explained the simplest physical characteristics to them, right? Such as mass and speed."
"Yes, but they made us express it a little more clearly."
"What about spin, angular momentum, and microscopic dimensional structural modeling?"
"Uh no!"
"I see, you continue."
Gary Donnelly recalled the scene at that time, and then continued: "Later, we adopted the most direct demonstration methods, from dots to dashes, to photos, to animations, but there was no progress."
Speaking of this, Gary Donnelly paused for a long time. He didn't seem to want to tell the latest news. It wasn't that he didn't want Yue Yuanzhou and Shang Shaojian to know, but he thought that they might not understand it.
Because he had never heard of a physicist named Yue Yuanzhou.
The atmosphere suddenly quieted down, and after a long time, Gary Donnelly finally chose to say it simply: "However... there is good news, not long ago, Dr. Erma's Laws, and then they go on like we repeat, and now Dr Heymold is doing his best to get the heptapods to express the laws in symbolic formulas."
"Oh, that is to say, the mathematics of the heptapod and the mathematics of humans are still common." Yue Yuanzhou said happily.
"Of course!" replied Gary Donnelly.
Yue Yuanzhou nodded. His focus was different from that of Gary, Colonel Weber and even Shang Shaojian. They cared about communication with the heptapod, but Yue Yuanzhou was not, or not all of them.
Yue Yuanzhou was not worried about not being able to communicate, because he had already detected that the laws of physics on this side of the solar system were the same as those billions of light years away.The reason why he is happy is because now he has preliminarily confirmed that the heptapod does not have the ability to modify the laws of mathematics.
As for why the heptapod finds the basic concepts of speed and mass difficult to understand, then you can use the mathematical language to communicate.
As for the mathematical expression of Fermat's law, although Dr. Heymold has not made any progress yet, Yue Yuanzhou has already made some guesses.
The previous performances of the heptapods have shown that their brain circuits are very different from those of humans, and even their basic scientific outlook on the world is completely different, so it is most likely that after they understand what Dr. Write down the mathematical expression of Ma's law.
Because if you want to make a mathematical description of Fermat's law, only calculus can do it, and it is not ordinary calculus, you have to use variable calculus.
So it is of course difficult, but it is only compared to the human mathematical system. The heptapod mathematical system may be different. In their system, this may be the basis of algebra.
With such an inference, Yue Yuanzhou's focus is not on whether the heptapod can write a mathematical expression and a mathematical description of Fermat's law of least time, but whether they can translate the content of quantum mechanics involved in this theorem It is also described mathematically.
Because using calculus or even variable calculus to express it, this only explains that this phenomenon is explained in the aspect of classical physics, and the content of quantum mechanics should be added to its complete explanation.
What Yue Yuanzhou wants to determine now is whether the heptapod has the ability to describe this physical phenomenon in terms of quantum mechanics, and the result is very different.
Because it will be the embodiment of the way of thinking of the heptapod race.
"I hope you can explain it in terms of quantum mechanics, otherwise you are just a group of sad races trapped in your own thinking!" Yue Yuanzhou sighed in his heart, as if he had seen a certain race trapped in thinking forever because of its own defects Sorrow in a cage.
Yue Yuanzhou sighed, baffled the surrounding people, but Yue Yuanzhou ignored it, he said: "I see, you guys did a good job, now let's see how those two heptapods are illiterate! "
(End of this chapter)
However, as soon as she finished speaking, she heard Yue Yuanzhou turn around and said, "Actually, it's not impossible, but it's just that human beings can't do it at present. Dr. Banks, you should have heard the idiom 'you have a plan in your chest'. I used the method of "expressing my heart directly" when expressing "a bamboo in my chest", so I think it is no different from the writing of Qiwen."
Louise Banks: "..." These two people are here to argue, right?In fact, her first impression at the time was that it was a bit similar to that logotype, but later she knew that it was not exactly the same.
Gary Donnelly: "&#*&@!% shit??"
Colonel Weber: "???"
In fact, Yue Yuanzhou is not aware of the relationship between Qiwen and the concept of time, because he has never watched the relevant plot, otherwise he would not have said so.
Of course, since he said so, in fact, it can be done if he wants to, as long as he compresses all the information of a sentence he wants to say into one moment, it's the same as the supernatural power on the side of cultivating immortals.
"Dr. Banks, do you have any other discoveries?" Yue Yuanzhou asked. He thought there should be some information that Banks hadn't recorded in files or computers.
Hearing his words, Banks made a movement: pulled his face, spread his hands, shrugged.
All in one go!
Louise Banks felt that she really didn't want to say anything when she met these two gangsters. She was already complaining about Colonel Weber in her heart, complaining that he invited these two people, although she knew that Weber didn't do it.
In fact, Louise really has other discoveries, that is, she feels that she has hallucinations occasionally recently, and then sees a little girl. She has a faint feeling that it is her own child, but she still doesn't know what happened. So I don't want to talk about it.
She has not discovered that this is caused by the influence of the heptapod language B. In fact, the reason for her poor mental state also stems from this. She is afraid that if she tells it, Colonel Weber will not let her participate in this matter if he finds out. For a language For scientists, the temptation to study extraterrestrial writing was too great, and she didn't want to pass up the opportunity.
"Dr. Donnelly, where are you?" Yue Yuanzhou didn't doubt that he was there, and turned to Gary who was beside him.
Yue Yuanzhou originally thought that the communication between an alien race was nothing more than a big deal. He had seen a lot of aliens, and he didn't see anyone who couldn't communicate.Just like the space principal of the Super Theological Seminary, he couldn't speak clearly at the beginning, but after being beaten by the neutron war star, he became able to speak clearly, and he was no longer confused.
But now, Yue Yuanzhou faintly feels that this heptapod is different from other alien civilizations he has seen, at least their writing is very interesting.
Although many places are similar to Chinese, there are also many differences. Yue Yuanzhou is now very interested in different places.
Speaking of his major, Gary Donnelly immediately woke up from a state of slumber. He stroked his beard and said, "We have a common language with him in arithmetic, but we hit the rocks when it comes to geometry and algebra. At first we thought it was the structure of the heptapod's body, and then changed our planar coordinate system to a spherical system, but the heptapod did not understand our intention."
"Oh, we also found that their mirrors and our displays are in a different technology field, they work on very different principles, they don't use pixels or scan lines, and the refresh method is not based on frame-by-frame scanning.
Based on this discovery, we thought about whether we could communicate in the most concrete and tangible aspects, such as in the names of the elements. In fact, the heptapods understood the periodic table we showed, but when we got into the more abstract Domain, heptapods don't know what we are talking about. "
Yue Yuanzhou nodded and said, "You have explained the simplest physical characteristics to them, right? Such as mass and speed."
"Yes, but they made us express it a little more clearly."
"What about spin, angular momentum, and microscopic dimensional structural modeling?"
"Uh no!"
"I see, you continue."
Gary Donnelly recalled the scene at that time, and then continued: "Later, we adopted the most direct demonstration methods, from dots to dashes, to photos, to animations, but there was no progress."
Speaking of this, Gary Donnelly paused for a long time. He didn't seem to want to tell the latest news. It wasn't that he didn't want Yue Yuanzhou and Shang Shaojian to know, but he thought that they might not understand it.
Because he had never heard of a physicist named Yue Yuanzhou.
The atmosphere suddenly quieted down, and after a long time, Gary Donnelly finally chose to say it simply: "However... there is good news, not long ago, Dr. Erma's Laws, and then they go on like we repeat, and now Dr Heymold is doing his best to get the heptapods to express the laws in symbolic formulas."
"Oh, that is to say, the mathematics of the heptapod and the mathematics of humans are still common." Yue Yuanzhou said happily.
"Of course!" replied Gary Donnelly.
Yue Yuanzhou nodded. His focus was different from that of Gary, Colonel Weber and even Shang Shaojian. They cared about communication with the heptapod, but Yue Yuanzhou was not, or not all of them.
Yue Yuanzhou was not worried about not being able to communicate, because he had already detected that the laws of physics on this side of the solar system were the same as those billions of light years away.The reason why he is happy is because now he has preliminarily confirmed that the heptapod does not have the ability to modify the laws of mathematics.
As for why the heptapod finds the basic concepts of speed and mass difficult to understand, then you can use the mathematical language to communicate.
As for the mathematical expression of Fermat's law, although Dr. Heymold has not made any progress yet, Yue Yuanzhou has already made some guesses.
The previous performances of the heptapods have shown that their brain circuits are very different from those of humans, and even their basic scientific outlook on the world is completely different, so it is most likely that after they understand what Dr. Write down the mathematical expression of Ma's law.
Because if you want to make a mathematical description of Fermat's law, only calculus can do it, and it is not ordinary calculus, you have to use variable calculus.
So it is of course difficult, but it is only compared to the human mathematical system. The heptapod mathematical system may be different. In their system, this may be the basis of algebra.
With such an inference, Yue Yuanzhou's focus is not on whether the heptapod can write a mathematical expression and a mathematical description of Fermat's law of least time, but whether they can translate the content of quantum mechanics involved in this theorem It is also described mathematically.
Because using calculus or even variable calculus to express it, this only explains that this phenomenon is explained in the aspect of classical physics, and the content of quantum mechanics should be added to its complete explanation.
What Yue Yuanzhou wants to determine now is whether the heptapod has the ability to describe this physical phenomenon in terms of quantum mechanics, and the result is very different.
Because it will be the embodiment of the way of thinking of the heptapod race.
"I hope you can explain it in terms of quantum mechanics, otherwise you are just a group of sad races trapped in your own thinking!" Yue Yuanzhou sighed in his heart, as if he had seen a certain race trapped in thinking forever because of its own defects Sorrow in a cage.
Yue Yuanzhou sighed, baffled the surrounding people, but Yue Yuanzhou ignored it, he said: "I see, you guys did a good job, now let's see how those two heptapods are illiterate! "
(End of this chapter)
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