The road to technology
Chapter 822 Simultaneous Thinking
Chapter 822 Simultaneous Thinking
Hearing Yue Yuanzhou's words, Shang Shaojian was excited.
Shang Shaojian could tell that among the four of them, Colonel Weber could be ignored, after all, this guy couldn't fight.As for Dr. Banks, she would guess that it is also a localized rule in the United States. Now it only takes 10 minutes to get familiar with the rules of Sichuan mahjong. Obviously, it is impossible to do it overnight, so he is the best at playing mahjong.
A must!
Sure enough, at the very beginning of the first game, Shang Shaojian noticed that Colonel Weber was playing indiscriminately. He even suspected that this American officer could not even understand the words on the mahjong.
Time passed slowly like this, and this scene was also recorded in the camera lens by the photographer.
In the camera, the human beings looking into the mirror are playing mahjong on one side, and the heptapods on the other side are discussing what the simple collection concepts of "point", "line" and "plane" mean.
On one side, the sound of mahjong clattering is mixed with "Peng! ''Huh! '' Bar! ''Touch yourself! ' Such shouts, on the other side, a group of heptapods are constantly making 'water splash' voices.
It looked extremely weird.
The happiest one belonged to Shang Shaojian. In less than an hour, he had won three games. He felt that he was the sparrow god today.
In fact, he didn't know that if Yue Yuanzhou hadn't appeared, he would really be playing mahjong in front of the heptapod now, but it was a lot of entertainment, and there was no prize, just to communicate with the heptapod, but he still succeeded, and he also Be the first in the world to decipher the heptapod language.
Of course, Yue Yuanzhou didn't know either, he only knew that the plot was changed by him.
Unsurprisingly, Shang Shaojian won the temporary mahjong match in the end, because although Yue Yuanzhou didn't cheat on himself, he still won the most. Fortunately, he didn't say that he was counted in the beginning.
The heptapods have been discussing for most of the night, and finally, with the efforts of their greatest scientific team, they are trying to describe the simplest mathematical set of human beings.
To Yue Yuanzhou's disappointment, the description of the heptapod was still not exhaustive.
Also, for Fermat’s law of least time, the heptapods have not given the quantum mechanics explanation either.
Fortunately, comparing mathematics with the heptapods is not for the purpose of exploring mathematics, but for comparing the descriptions of nature in each other's words. Therefore, even though the heptapods cannot describe the simplest geometry in detail, it is still possible for Yue Yuanzhou. Also enough.
At least now it's possible to have a real conversation.
In the process of communicating mathematics with the heptapods, Yue Yuanzhou felt that he had discovered a very amazing thing, which was about the heptapod characters, or about their thinking mode.
In the cognition of the heptapod, the antecedent and the consequence are not two independent individuals, but are intertwined, influencing and interacting with each other, and the two are inseparable.
There is no inborn and inevitable order of arrangement among concepts, there is no so-called "chain of thinking" to advance along a fixed route, but the importance of all components in the thinking process is the same, there is no A thought has priority.
Only in this way, Yue Yuanzhou thinks it can explain why the characters on the heptapods are in such a shape.
Humans have discovered that physical properties are the attributes of a certain thing at a given moment by means of intuition, and then endow it with human understanding in linear time on this basis, so as to describe the phenomena of nature. This is true for concepts such as motion, speed, etc.
These events are explained in sequence and in a causal relationship.
One event leads to another event, one cause leads to another result, and thus a basic worldview is obtained in which things develop from a past state to a future state.
Not so with heptapods, which intuitively know that physical properties are meaningless by themselves, and only after a certain period of time do they become meaningful.
Based on these cognitions, Yue Yuanzhou believes that the thinking of the heptapod is really different from that of human beings. Unlike human beings, the heptapod seems to treat objective facts with teleology.
That is, the observation of certain events for a period of time will later reveal that they have a purpose in themselves, and for this event, it can only achieve its purpose if it knows its initial and final stages in advance.
That is, the 'effect' is known in advance before the 'cause' is activated.
"So at that time, the heptapod saw the 'fruit' of my arrival, so it changed its schedule and didn't go to the beach? Because once they went, they would become the 'effect' for the 'fruit' of that incident ?” Yue Yuanzhou recalled the fact that the heptapods did not go to the beach, and secretly said, “According to the heptapods’ thinking, they should not be able to make choices.”
"Have you seen through the future?" Looking at the two representatives of the heptapod, Ben Boerba and Ba Boerben, Yue Yuanzhou asked, but as soon as he asked, he felt that it was a bit wrong to ask, because the heptapod did not understand human beings at all. Say 'future'.
After thinking about it, Yue Yuanzhou changed his rhetoric: "Have you seen the impact of my presence on the stage of the event for the purpose of your trip?"
The heptapod seemed to understand, and saw that Ben Boerba on the left raised a limb and sprayed out a few black rings to answer: "There is no event there, you, Huaxia, there is no event stage to help us, we provide, no, tools/methods.
You, the event is destroyed, the event disappears, the event is incomprehensible, we do not want to communicate with you, but the event cannot be avoided, we must exist in the stage of communicating with you, communicating with you is a new event, any stage of a new event is unknown and incomprehensible , but has an effect on the old event purpose, but we can't understand it. "
Hearing the heptapod's answer, Yue Yuanzhou thought to himself, he was carefully analyzing the meaning expressed by the heptapod.
"It seems to say that I have an impact on their purpose, and then events about me will become uncertain, and then these heptapods don't understand what uncertainty is at all. Because in their worldview, in their thinking , events are certain, and certain things cannot be avoided." Yue Yuanzhou thought to himself.
After a while, he waved another piece of text and asked: "The time synchronization of the event happened in nature?"
"Yes, we are at this stage, it is the action, it is the process, we do it, and the event closure stage must be in nature." This time it is Pa Boerben who replied.
Is this synchronous thinking?
Yue Yuanzhou seemed to understand, he continued to ask: "What is your purpose for coming to Earth?"
The heptapod's answer this time was not straightforward. First, Ben Boerba spewed out the Mohuan Qiwen: "The question and event are incomprehensible, and the effect of answering or not answering the event's purpose is incomprehensible, so we choose to answer, I hope you can understand .”
Ba Boerben also spewed out several seven essays: "We come to exist as the 'action amount' of the event. The purpose stage of the event is that human beings help us, and the action stage is that we help human beings."
(End of this chapter)
Hearing Yue Yuanzhou's words, Shang Shaojian was excited.
Shang Shaojian could tell that among the four of them, Colonel Weber could be ignored, after all, this guy couldn't fight.As for Dr. Banks, she would guess that it is also a localized rule in the United States. Now it only takes 10 minutes to get familiar with the rules of Sichuan mahjong. Obviously, it is impossible to do it overnight, so he is the best at playing mahjong.
A must!
Sure enough, at the very beginning of the first game, Shang Shaojian noticed that Colonel Weber was playing indiscriminately. He even suspected that this American officer could not even understand the words on the mahjong.
Time passed slowly like this, and this scene was also recorded in the camera lens by the photographer.
In the camera, the human beings looking into the mirror are playing mahjong on one side, and the heptapods on the other side are discussing what the simple collection concepts of "point", "line" and "plane" mean.
On one side, the sound of mahjong clattering is mixed with "Peng! ''Huh! '' Bar! ''Touch yourself! ' Such shouts, on the other side, a group of heptapods are constantly making 'water splash' voices.
It looked extremely weird.
The happiest one belonged to Shang Shaojian. In less than an hour, he had won three games. He felt that he was the sparrow god today.
In fact, he didn't know that if Yue Yuanzhou hadn't appeared, he would really be playing mahjong in front of the heptapod now, but it was a lot of entertainment, and there was no prize, just to communicate with the heptapod, but he still succeeded, and he also Be the first in the world to decipher the heptapod language.
Of course, Yue Yuanzhou didn't know either, he only knew that the plot was changed by him.
Unsurprisingly, Shang Shaojian won the temporary mahjong match in the end, because although Yue Yuanzhou didn't cheat on himself, he still won the most. Fortunately, he didn't say that he was counted in the beginning.
The heptapods have been discussing for most of the night, and finally, with the efforts of their greatest scientific team, they are trying to describe the simplest mathematical set of human beings.
To Yue Yuanzhou's disappointment, the description of the heptapod was still not exhaustive.
Also, for Fermat’s law of least time, the heptapods have not given the quantum mechanics explanation either.
Fortunately, comparing mathematics with the heptapods is not for the purpose of exploring mathematics, but for comparing the descriptions of nature in each other's words. Therefore, even though the heptapods cannot describe the simplest geometry in detail, it is still possible for Yue Yuanzhou. Also enough.
At least now it's possible to have a real conversation.
In the process of communicating mathematics with the heptapods, Yue Yuanzhou felt that he had discovered a very amazing thing, which was about the heptapod characters, or about their thinking mode.
In the cognition of the heptapod, the antecedent and the consequence are not two independent individuals, but are intertwined, influencing and interacting with each other, and the two are inseparable.
There is no inborn and inevitable order of arrangement among concepts, there is no so-called "chain of thinking" to advance along a fixed route, but the importance of all components in the thinking process is the same, there is no A thought has priority.
Only in this way, Yue Yuanzhou thinks it can explain why the characters on the heptapods are in such a shape.
Humans have discovered that physical properties are the attributes of a certain thing at a given moment by means of intuition, and then endow it with human understanding in linear time on this basis, so as to describe the phenomena of nature. This is true for concepts such as motion, speed, etc.
These events are explained in sequence and in a causal relationship.
One event leads to another event, one cause leads to another result, and thus a basic worldview is obtained in which things develop from a past state to a future state.
Not so with heptapods, which intuitively know that physical properties are meaningless by themselves, and only after a certain period of time do they become meaningful.
Based on these cognitions, Yue Yuanzhou believes that the thinking of the heptapod is really different from that of human beings. Unlike human beings, the heptapod seems to treat objective facts with teleology.
That is, the observation of certain events for a period of time will later reveal that they have a purpose in themselves, and for this event, it can only achieve its purpose if it knows its initial and final stages in advance.
That is, the 'effect' is known in advance before the 'cause' is activated.
"So at that time, the heptapod saw the 'fruit' of my arrival, so it changed its schedule and didn't go to the beach? Because once they went, they would become the 'effect' for the 'fruit' of that incident ?” Yue Yuanzhou recalled the fact that the heptapods did not go to the beach, and secretly said, “According to the heptapods’ thinking, they should not be able to make choices.”
"Have you seen through the future?" Looking at the two representatives of the heptapod, Ben Boerba and Ba Boerben, Yue Yuanzhou asked, but as soon as he asked, he felt that it was a bit wrong to ask, because the heptapod did not understand human beings at all. Say 'future'.
After thinking about it, Yue Yuanzhou changed his rhetoric: "Have you seen the impact of my presence on the stage of the event for the purpose of your trip?"
The heptapod seemed to understand, and saw that Ben Boerba on the left raised a limb and sprayed out a few black rings to answer: "There is no event there, you, Huaxia, there is no event stage to help us, we provide, no, tools/methods.
You, the event is destroyed, the event disappears, the event is incomprehensible, we do not want to communicate with you, but the event cannot be avoided, we must exist in the stage of communicating with you, communicating with you is a new event, any stage of a new event is unknown and incomprehensible , but has an effect on the old event purpose, but we can't understand it. "
Hearing the heptapod's answer, Yue Yuanzhou thought to himself, he was carefully analyzing the meaning expressed by the heptapod.
"It seems to say that I have an impact on their purpose, and then events about me will become uncertain, and then these heptapods don't understand what uncertainty is at all. Because in their worldview, in their thinking , events are certain, and certain things cannot be avoided." Yue Yuanzhou thought to himself.
After a while, he waved another piece of text and asked: "The time synchronization of the event happened in nature?"
"Yes, we are at this stage, it is the action, it is the process, we do it, and the event closure stage must be in nature." This time it is Pa Boerben who replied.
Is this synchronous thinking?
Yue Yuanzhou seemed to understand, he continued to ask: "What is your purpose for coming to Earth?"
The heptapod's answer this time was not straightforward. First, Ben Boerba spewed out the Mohuan Qiwen: "The question and event are incomprehensible, and the effect of answering or not answering the event's purpose is incomprehensible, so we choose to answer, I hope you can understand .”
Ba Boerben also spewed out several seven essays: "We come to exist as the 'action amount' of the event. The purpose stage of the event is that human beings help us, and the action stage is that we help human beings."
(End of this chapter)
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