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Chapter 1187 Now I Have More Confidence
Chapter 1187 Now I Have More Confidence
"Ha ha……"
Geng Shaojie, who was very satisfied with Zhang Qihang's answer, laughed twice: "Brother, what you said, I was just joking, why do you take it seriously? What kind of person are you? Brother, don't I? Know?"
Even the name has changed.
Zhang Qihang replied with a smile: "Brother Geng still understands me."
Geng Shaojie smiled and said, "How long have we been dating, how can I not understand you?"
After a slight pause, Geng Shaojie then asked: "By the way, brother, how do you plan to charge this technology transfer fee? Are there any additional conditions?"
"There are definitely no additional conditions. This is a pure business." Zhang Qihang first gave Geng Shaojie a reassurance, and then continued: "As for the charging method, there are two fees, one is the technology transfer fee, and the other is the fee. One is the authorization fee. If we can reach an agreement, you will need to give us a certain amount of authorization fee for each parallel shaft gearbox produced in the future. All the fees will be these two, and there will be no other fees. .
In addition, if you need us to provide some spare parts in the early stage, such as the support of solenoid valve plate, TCU, hydraulic torque converter and other accessories, we have no problem at all here, and these can be written into the contract, even the engine and We can also cooperate on the collaborative calibration and matching of gearboxes. "
Geng Shaojie was very satisfied with Zhang Qihang's answer: there are no other additional conditions, it would be great.
As for the so-called "assistance" in the coordinated calibration and matching of the engine and gearbox, Geng Shaojie is very satisfied. The word "assistance" sounds much more pleasing to the ear.
At the same time, Geng Shaojie's heart became completely alive: If he had the Huateng Group's parallel shaft gearbox as a backup, then the next negotiation with BorgWarner would indeed be much easier, and even if the negotiation Failure, I also have a final back-up on my side. Conversely, as long as BorgWarner knows that they have this backup on their side, they will not be able to open their mouths—even if they dare to open their mouths, I can let them Shut up obediently!
"Brother, you are really interesting," Geng Shaojie nodded again and again: "Brother, let me ask one more question, are you planning to transfer the latest 5AT technology?"
Zhang Qihang did not go around in circles with Geng Shaojie, and said directly: "Both 4AT and 5AT can be transferred, but considering that we have no experience in automatic transmissions, after discussing with Mr. Feng and our leaders, we agreed that the one that can be transferred first is 4AT technology, after everyone digests and absorbs 4AT technology, then transfer 5AT technology to everyone.”
The technology of 4AT and 5AT should be transferred in two parts?
Zhang Qihang's words made Geng Shaojie frowned uncontrollably, a little unhappy, but following Zhang Qihang's words, he also had to admit that what the other party said made sense: For the current big brother, wanting to digest and absorb The 4AT technology already requires all-out efforts. In a short period of time, it is true that there is no ability to digest and absorb the two mid-range gearbox technologies of 4AT and 5AT at the same time.
Zhang Qihang went on to say: "In addition, our group is developing 6AT parallel shaft gearbox technology. After the development of this technology is completed, it can be transferred to everyone in the future."
Hearing Zhang Qihang's words, Geng Shaojie was stunned for a moment: "Are you still planning to develop a 6-speed parallel shaft gearbox?"
6AT, compared to the gears that are not dense enough, and when changing gears, I sometimes encounter 4ATs that don’t know whether to use second gear or third gear. The gear ratio of 6AT is denser and the gears are more reasonable. In this era, In other words, 6AT is almost the perfect solution for automatic transmission, and only mid-to-high-end cars such as Reiz and Crown can use 6AT, and even the 2.4 Camry can only use 5AT.
But now, Zhang Qihang told him that Huateng Group was going to develop a 6AT parallel shaft gearbox, so how could Geng Shaojie not be moved?Geng Shaojie is very clear that Volkswagen's dual-clutch gearbox is only a 6-speed.
"It's not preparing for development, it's being developed," Zhang Qihang corrected: "Our group has done some technical pre-research on the 6-speed parallel shaft gearbox before, and we have corresponding technical reserves."
"Is that so..."
Hearing Zhang Qihang's words, Geng Shaojie immediately believed: Yes, Zhang Qihang, as the inventor of parallel shaft gearbox technology, since he can produce 4-speed and 5-speed parallel shaft It is indeed not difficult to produce a 6-speed parallel shaft gearbox from a technical point of view.
But compared to this, Geng Shaojie is more concerned about another question: "Brother, let me ask, do you have any restrictions on the future transfer of technology? Does anyone want to buy your technology, and you all sell it?"
"Yes, no matter who they are, as long as they are interested in our technology, we will sell it," Zhang Qihang replied affirmatively: "I hope to take this opportunity to let Borg Warner Warner dispel some ideas that shouldn't be there. ...The reason why BorgWarner dared to make such an arrogant request is because our domestic companies have not mastered automatic transmission technology, and if they want to make a breakthrough in the field of automatic transmission, the best way is to cooperate with BorgWarner , I just want to take this opportunity to tell BorgWarner that we welcome them to cooperate, but we cannot be bullied as fools.”
"..."
Geng Shaojie didn't know what to say for a while.
From the standpoint of the big brother, he certainly doesn't want the Huateng Group to do this. If the Huateng Group hadn't mastered the technology of parallel shaft gearboxes, he even wished that only they in China had mastered the technology of automatic gearboxes. , but Geng Shaojie is not only a leader of an enterprise after all, as a big brother, he is born to shoulder the heavy responsibility of leading the development of the industry. Development and even the whole country are in the best interest.
After a moment of silence, Geng Shaojie did not respond to Zhang Qihang's words, but instead spoke to Zhang Qihang: "Xiao Zhang, BorgWarner asked you to give up the parallel shaft transmission technology, what do you think of this matter?"
"Bah! They're just trying to eat shit!" Zhang Qihang cursed, without hiding his attitude: "Are they stupid or am I stupid, will cut off their arms at this time?"
Geng Shaojie also felt that what Zhang Qihang said was correct, but he hesitated and asked: "The truth is the same. Let's see if BorgWarner's attitude on this matter is very tough?"
"Then let them go," Zhang Qihang said bluntly, "They have 6AT, and we also have 6AT. Even if the transmission efficiency of the dual-clutch gearbox is a little higher, how much fuel can be added per [-] kilometers?
On the contrary, if BorgWarner fully grasps the supply of core dual-clutch modules and electromagnetic modules, I don’t think BorgWarner will honestly earn a reasonable profit. In the future, the final product of the dual-clutch gearbox may be Maybe the price is much higher than the price of our parallel shaft gearbox? "
"This one……"
Geng Shaojie was speechless, and had to admit that Zhang Qihang's words were indeed reasonable: Everyone has a 6-speed automatic transmission, so our parallel axis is really much worse than your dual-clutch?
Most importantly, when BorgWarner really becomes the sole or main supplier of dual-clutch gearbox core modules in the Chinese market, can they resist making excess profits?Based on Geng Shaojie's experience in dealing with foreign companies over the years, he knows that this is impossible.
Calculated in this way, it is really possible to develop into a situation where the domestically produced 6-speed dual-clutch gearbox is much more expensive than the 6-speed parallel shaft gearbox. At this time, users may really have to see whose price is cheaper up.
On the contrary, Zhang Qihang, without waiting for Geng Shaojie to speak, continued on his own: "In the end, the dual-clutch gearbox is just a mechanical transmission gearbox for transmission, and its upper limit is here. Brother Geng, you know, we The group has already started to move towards hybrid power, and there are infinite possibilities in the future. BorgWarner really annoyed us, so we spread hybrid technology to the whole industry. Who will be afraid when we see the time!"
When Zhang Qihang said that he would spread the hybrid technology to the whole industry, Geng Shaojie only felt a loud "boom..." in his chest, and his heart felt depressed: hybrid!Hybrid!Why did I forget that Huateng Group also has a trump card of hybrid power?
To be honest, even if it is as strong as the big brother, they are a little envious and jealous of the current range-extending hybrid system of Huateng Group. There is no other reason. The fuel-saving effect of this system is really remarkable.
Speaking of which, in terms of the actual cost of use, although Huateng Group's Sylphy sedan equipped with a hybrid system has advantages over traditional fuel vehicles, it is actually about the same cost as vehicles of the same level modified with CNG fuel. The hybrid version of Huateng Sylphy is mainly sold and used in the taxi industry. Although there are retail users, there are not many.
But is this really the case?
of course not!
Geng Shaojie stands at a higher position and is more aware of the country's strategic development plan and industry development trends in the next 10 or 20 years. Naturally, he is very clear about the country's future attitude towards traditional energy vehicles, and he also knows that Huateng Group is taking this road. It is the right way. Huateng Group is now going more and more smoothly on the road of new energy. According to the information they have, it seems that they are now developing a new generation of hybrid power system similar to Toyota E-cvt. If this news is true Yes, if they made it, then they really have the right to ignore BorgWarner. After all, what Zhang Qihang said is right, no matter how awesome the dual-clutch gearbox is, it is still a traditional mechanical transmission in essence. box, but compared with the hybrid, its technology gap is as big as from the second industrial revolution to the third industrial industrial revolution!
(End of this chapter)
"Ha ha……"
Geng Shaojie, who was very satisfied with Zhang Qihang's answer, laughed twice: "Brother, what you said, I was just joking, why do you take it seriously? What kind of person are you? Brother, don't I? Know?"
Even the name has changed.
Zhang Qihang replied with a smile: "Brother Geng still understands me."
Geng Shaojie smiled and said, "How long have we been dating, how can I not understand you?"
After a slight pause, Geng Shaojie then asked: "By the way, brother, how do you plan to charge this technology transfer fee? Are there any additional conditions?"
"There are definitely no additional conditions. This is a pure business." Zhang Qihang first gave Geng Shaojie a reassurance, and then continued: "As for the charging method, there are two fees, one is the technology transfer fee, and the other is the fee. One is the authorization fee. If we can reach an agreement, you will need to give us a certain amount of authorization fee for each parallel shaft gearbox produced in the future. All the fees will be these two, and there will be no other fees. .
In addition, if you need us to provide some spare parts in the early stage, such as the support of solenoid valve plate, TCU, hydraulic torque converter and other accessories, we have no problem at all here, and these can be written into the contract, even the engine and We can also cooperate on the collaborative calibration and matching of gearboxes. "
Geng Shaojie was very satisfied with Zhang Qihang's answer: there are no other additional conditions, it would be great.
As for the so-called "assistance" in the coordinated calibration and matching of the engine and gearbox, Geng Shaojie is very satisfied. The word "assistance" sounds much more pleasing to the ear.
At the same time, Geng Shaojie's heart became completely alive: If he had the Huateng Group's parallel shaft gearbox as a backup, then the next negotiation with BorgWarner would indeed be much easier, and even if the negotiation Failure, I also have a final back-up on my side. Conversely, as long as BorgWarner knows that they have this backup on their side, they will not be able to open their mouths—even if they dare to open their mouths, I can let them Shut up obediently!
"Brother, you are really interesting," Geng Shaojie nodded again and again: "Brother, let me ask one more question, are you planning to transfer the latest 5AT technology?"
Zhang Qihang did not go around in circles with Geng Shaojie, and said directly: "Both 4AT and 5AT can be transferred, but considering that we have no experience in automatic transmissions, after discussing with Mr. Feng and our leaders, we agreed that the one that can be transferred first is 4AT technology, after everyone digests and absorbs 4AT technology, then transfer 5AT technology to everyone.”
The technology of 4AT and 5AT should be transferred in two parts?
Zhang Qihang's words made Geng Shaojie frowned uncontrollably, a little unhappy, but following Zhang Qihang's words, he also had to admit that what the other party said made sense: For the current big brother, wanting to digest and absorb The 4AT technology already requires all-out efforts. In a short period of time, it is true that there is no ability to digest and absorb the two mid-range gearbox technologies of 4AT and 5AT at the same time.
Zhang Qihang went on to say: "In addition, our group is developing 6AT parallel shaft gearbox technology. After the development of this technology is completed, it can be transferred to everyone in the future."
Hearing Zhang Qihang's words, Geng Shaojie was stunned for a moment: "Are you still planning to develop a 6-speed parallel shaft gearbox?"
6AT, compared to the gears that are not dense enough, and when changing gears, I sometimes encounter 4ATs that don’t know whether to use second gear or third gear. The gear ratio of 6AT is denser and the gears are more reasonable. In this era, In other words, 6AT is almost the perfect solution for automatic transmission, and only mid-to-high-end cars such as Reiz and Crown can use 6AT, and even the 2.4 Camry can only use 5AT.
But now, Zhang Qihang told him that Huateng Group was going to develop a 6AT parallel shaft gearbox, so how could Geng Shaojie not be moved?Geng Shaojie is very clear that Volkswagen's dual-clutch gearbox is only a 6-speed.
"It's not preparing for development, it's being developed," Zhang Qihang corrected: "Our group has done some technical pre-research on the 6-speed parallel shaft gearbox before, and we have corresponding technical reserves."
"Is that so..."
Hearing Zhang Qihang's words, Geng Shaojie immediately believed: Yes, Zhang Qihang, as the inventor of parallel shaft gearbox technology, since he can produce 4-speed and 5-speed parallel shaft It is indeed not difficult to produce a 6-speed parallel shaft gearbox from a technical point of view.
But compared to this, Geng Shaojie is more concerned about another question: "Brother, let me ask, do you have any restrictions on the future transfer of technology? Does anyone want to buy your technology, and you all sell it?"
"Yes, no matter who they are, as long as they are interested in our technology, we will sell it," Zhang Qihang replied affirmatively: "I hope to take this opportunity to let Borg Warner Warner dispel some ideas that shouldn't be there. ...The reason why BorgWarner dared to make such an arrogant request is because our domestic companies have not mastered automatic transmission technology, and if they want to make a breakthrough in the field of automatic transmission, the best way is to cooperate with BorgWarner , I just want to take this opportunity to tell BorgWarner that we welcome them to cooperate, but we cannot be bullied as fools.”
"..."
Geng Shaojie didn't know what to say for a while.
From the standpoint of the big brother, he certainly doesn't want the Huateng Group to do this. If the Huateng Group hadn't mastered the technology of parallel shaft gearboxes, he even wished that only they in China had mastered the technology of automatic gearboxes. , but Geng Shaojie is not only a leader of an enterprise after all, as a big brother, he is born to shoulder the heavy responsibility of leading the development of the industry. Development and even the whole country are in the best interest.
After a moment of silence, Geng Shaojie did not respond to Zhang Qihang's words, but instead spoke to Zhang Qihang: "Xiao Zhang, BorgWarner asked you to give up the parallel shaft transmission technology, what do you think of this matter?"
"Bah! They're just trying to eat shit!" Zhang Qihang cursed, without hiding his attitude: "Are they stupid or am I stupid, will cut off their arms at this time?"
Geng Shaojie also felt that what Zhang Qihang said was correct, but he hesitated and asked: "The truth is the same. Let's see if BorgWarner's attitude on this matter is very tough?"
"Then let them go," Zhang Qihang said bluntly, "They have 6AT, and we also have 6AT. Even if the transmission efficiency of the dual-clutch gearbox is a little higher, how much fuel can be added per [-] kilometers?
On the contrary, if BorgWarner fully grasps the supply of core dual-clutch modules and electromagnetic modules, I don’t think BorgWarner will honestly earn a reasonable profit. In the future, the final product of the dual-clutch gearbox may be Maybe the price is much higher than the price of our parallel shaft gearbox? "
"This one……"
Geng Shaojie was speechless, and had to admit that Zhang Qihang's words were indeed reasonable: Everyone has a 6-speed automatic transmission, so our parallel axis is really much worse than your dual-clutch?
Most importantly, when BorgWarner really becomes the sole or main supplier of dual-clutch gearbox core modules in the Chinese market, can they resist making excess profits?Based on Geng Shaojie's experience in dealing with foreign companies over the years, he knows that this is impossible.
Calculated in this way, it is really possible to develop into a situation where the domestically produced 6-speed dual-clutch gearbox is much more expensive than the 6-speed parallel shaft gearbox. At this time, users may really have to see whose price is cheaper up.
On the contrary, Zhang Qihang, without waiting for Geng Shaojie to speak, continued on his own: "In the end, the dual-clutch gearbox is just a mechanical transmission gearbox for transmission, and its upper limit is here. Brother Geng, you know, we The group has already started to move towards hybrid power, and there are infinite possibilities in the future. BorgWarner really annoyed us, so we spread hybrid technology to the whole industry. Who will be afraid when we see the time!"
When Zhang Qihang said that he would spread the hybrid technology to the whole industry, Geng Shaojie only felt a loud "boom..." in his chest, and his heart felt depressed: hybrid!Hybrid!Why did I forget that Huateng Group also has a trump card of hybrid power?
To be honest, even if it is as strong as the big brother, they are a little envious and jealous of the current range-extending hybrid system of Huateng Group. There is no other reason. The fuel-saving effect of this system is really remarkable.
Speaking of which, in terms of the actual cost of use, although Huateng Group's Sylphy sedan equipped with a hybrid system has advantages over traditional fuel vehicles, it is actually about the same cost as vehicles of the same level modified with CNG fuel. The hybrid version of Huateng Sylphy is mainly sold and used in the taxi industry. Although there are retail users, there are not many.
But is this really the case?
of course not!
Geng Shaojie stands at a higher position and is more aware of the country's strategic development plan and industry development trends in the next 10 or 20 years. Naturally, he is very clear about the country's future attitude towards traditional energy vehicles, and he also knows that Huateng Group is taking this road. It is the right way. Huateng Group is now going more and more smoothly on the road of new energy. According to the information they have, it seems that they are now developing a new generation of hybrid power system similar to Toyota E-cvt. If this news is true Yes, if they made it, then they really have the right to ignore BorgWarner. After all, what Zhang Qihang said is right, no matter how awesome the dual-clutch gearbox is, it is still a traditional mechanical transmission in essence. box, but compared with the hybrid, its technology gap is as big as from the second industrial revolution to the third industrial industrial revolution!
(End of this chapter)
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