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Chapter 988 Stealing Oil Otter: He is not qualified to be our opponent
Chapter 988 Stealing Oil Otter: He is not qualified to be our opponent
"Of course no problem," Liu Jianfeng nodded with a smile, "Our Huateng Group admires the achievements of the oil-stealing otter in hybrid technology, but Mr. Seto, if I remember correctly, you are from a management position. Right? Communication in the technical field, you..."
Seto Hiroyuki's face remained unchanged, and he said calmly: "Liu Jun, you are right, I am indeed from a management position, and I am not very proficient in technology, but I still have some understanding of some basic principles of the hybrid system. , I don’t know Liu Jun, can you briefly introduce to me the basic principle of the company’s hybrid system?
After I understand the working principle of your system, I will report the situation to the headquarters, and then we can arrange for in-depth communication and exchanges between experts from both sides. "
"I understand what you mean," Liu Jianfeng nodded slightly: "Of course there is no problem. To put it simply, our hybrid system adopts a series pure electric drive system structure. The first motor is responsible for power generation and kinetic energy recovery, and the second motor is responsible for power generation and kinetic energy recovery. No. [-] electric motor is used to drive the vehicle, and a large-capacity Ni-MH battery pack is responsible for energy balance and regulation."
The Yifeng executives who came over with Hiroyuki Seto and other Dongying people were still confused. They didn't understand the relationship between the hybrid system of Huateng Industrial Group and the THS hybrid system of the oil otter. What is the difference or similarity, let alone understand whether the hybrid system of Huateng Industrial Group has stolen the THS hybrid technology of the oil otter, so I couldn't help but start discussing in a low voice for a while.
But the faces of the Dongying people headed by Seto Hiroyuki changed. Seto Hiroyuki frowned and confirmed to Liu Jianfeng: "Liu Jun, you mean that this hybrid system of your company can only be connected in series from beginning to end. A working mode that does not have a parallel working mode, and the electric motor is always used to drive the wheels forward, and the engine is only responsible for generating electricity?"
Hiroyuki Seto just lied. Although he is not an expert in hybrid technology, he still knows his own THS hybrid system very well. He is also very clear about the working mode and working logic of his own THS hybrid system. If Hua The hybrid system of Huateng Industrial Group only has such a working mode in series, so there is no question, the hybrid system of Huateng Industrial Group has nothing to do with the hybrid system of the oil-stealing otter, and there is no stealing or stealing. The statement of oil otter hybrid technology.
Of course, if the hybrid system of Huateng Industrial Group is really what Liu Jianfeng said, Hiroyuki Seto felt that he and the oil thief would laugh out loud: If what Liu Jianfeng said is true, then Huateng Industrial Group This so-called hybrid system is just the most technically simple series-type range-extending structure, which belongs to a structural model that the oil otter excluded at the first time when developing the hybrid system, because the structural model of this system It is too simple, and there is no way to compare with the technical content of the Thief THS hybrid system.
Seeing Hiroyuki Seto's face almost bursting into laughter, Liu Jianfeng nodded and said, "That's right, and according to our tests, the fuel consumption of our hybrid system at low and medium speeds is comparable to that of your company's THS hybrid system." The fuel consumption of the dynamic system is almost the same, but the fuel consumption performance at high speed is slightly worse."
Hearing Liu Jianfeng's words, Deputy Manager Xie and others immediately looked at Hiroyuki Seto nervously, wanting to see Hiroyuki Seto pointing at Liu Jianfeng's nose and yelling, but Hiroyuki Seto's reaction made them Disappointed, facing Liu Jianfeng's similarly provocative words...at least in the eyes of Deputy Manager Xie and others, Liu Jianfeng's words were provocative...Seto Hiroyuki's face did not change at all, but nodded in agreement. : "Indeed, with this serial range-extending working mode, when the vehicle is at low and medium speeds, the fuel consumption performance is indeed very obvious. We have also tested the oil otter, and the fuel consumption is different from the THS hybrid system of our oil otter. Not many."
Hearing Seto Hiroyuki's words, Deputy Manager Xie and the others were stunned: What the hell are you Seto Hiroyuki doing?
..............................
After a while, he left from the booth of Huateng Industrial Group. Before Deputy Manager Xie and others could speak, Hiroyuki Seto sighed and said, "The hybrid system of Huateng Group has nothing to do with the THS hybrid technology of stealing oil. anything."
"how is this possible?"
Hearing Hiroyuki Seto's words, Deputy Manager Xie and the other guys who were going to trouble Huateng Industrial Group were stunned for a moment, not daring to listen to them.
"It's true," said Hiroyuki Seto suddenly with a proud smile on his face: "But everyone, don't worry, compared with the HTS hybrid technology with our stealing oil otter, their hybrid technology The system can be said to be the most primitive and most backward hybrid technology, and it is completely incomparable with the THS hybrid technology that I even stole oil otters from. "
Deputy Manager Xie quickly asked, "Mr. Seto, how do you say that?"
After confirming that the hybrid system of Huateng Industrial Group would not pose a threat to oil thieves, Hiroyuki Seto was in a good mood. He smiled and explained to Deputy Manager Xie and others: "Let me introduce you briefly. You know, to put it simply, the hybrid system of Huateng Group is that the engine drives the generator to generate electricity, and then uses the generated electricity to drive the electric motor to drive the vehicle.”
"It's that simple?"
Deputy Manager Xie and the others couldn't believe it: Isn't this too simple?
Seto Hiroyuki nodded and said: "Actually, of course it is not that simple. A battery is needed to adjust and balance the balance between the power consumption of the motor and the power generation of the generator. In addition, the control logic of the electronic control system also needs to be well calibrated. , but in general, it is the working model I just mentioned.”
Deputy Manager Xie still couldn't believe it: "But... that Liu just said that the fuel consumption of their hybrid system at low and medium speeds is almost the same as your THS hybrid system."
"Well, that is indeed the case," Hiroyuki Seto did not deny, he nodded and said: "When the vehicle is in the motor-driven mode, when the vehicle is running at low and medium speeds, the power required is not high. A few kilowatts of power is enough, which means that the electricity in the battery can drive the vehicle for a relatively long distance. As long as they have an engine that has been tuned and optimized for the hybrid drive mode, the engine will not will always start.
If we take a distance of 100 kilometers in the urban area and the suburbs as an example, the engine of a traditional car needs to run all the time, and the working condition of the engine is extremely unstable. After the hybrid system, the start-up and running time of the engine may only be 5.00% of the total driving time. After the engine is started, it can always run in the high fuel efficiency zone. The engine has high operating efficiency and short running time. It will naturally drop down, so in this working mode, when the vehicle is running at medium and low speeds, the fuel consumption of 4.5 liters is completely achievable. "
"..."
Deputy manager Xie was dumbfounded: Is it still possible?
After a pause, he carefully asked Hiroyuki Seto: "But this hybrid system of Huateng Group still can't be compared with this THS hybrid system of Stealing Oil, right?"
"Of course!" When it comes to this, Seto Hiroshi's face is proud: "The THS hybrid system of our stealer is the best hybrid system in the world today, which can make the vehicle work no matter what the working conditions are. In the best working condition, Huateng Group's series hybrid system can't do this... I just said that the concept of Huateng Group's hybrid system was stolen by me from the very beginning. Excluded, because it is too backward!"
Hiroyuki Seto really has reason to be proud and proud. Today in 2002, the THS hybrid system of Stealing Oil Otter is indeed very powerful, and it can even be said to be the only one in the world. After seeing the series series of Huateng Group After installing the extended-range hybrid system, the last worry in Hiroshi Seto's heart disappeared. He didn't think that the hybrid system of Huateng Group was qualified to compete with the oil-stealing otter at all.
But Deputy Manager Xie, he doesn't care about this at all. He doesn't care whether the hybrid system of Huateng Group is good or not. Seeing that Seto Hiroyuki has never been on the road, Deputy Manager Xie didn't go around in circles, so he asked directly: "Then Mr. Seto, do you think this hybrid system of Huateng Group has infringed on the patent of Stealer on hybrid technology?"
"Probably not." Speaking of this, Hiroyuki Seto felt a little regretful: "Because the technical ideas of our two companies are completely different."
"That's it," Deputy Manager Xie couldn't hide his disappointment on his face, "Is it true that there is no patent infringement at all?"
Hiroyuki Seto couldn't understand why Deputy Manager Xie was so persistent on this issue. He thought for a while, and simply said: "To give an inappropriate example, the THS hybrid system we stole the oil otter is a gasoline engine, and the Huateng Group This hybrid system is a diesel engine, what technical patent do you think a diesel engine can infringe on a gasoline engine?"
"Is that so?"
Deputy Manager Xie opened his mouth, and finally lowered his head in frustration: It seems that there is no way to trip Huateng Group.
Not only Deputy Manager Xie, but also other Yifeng management personnel felt quite regretful: Why did it become this one line?
Speaking of which, it's not surprising that deputy manager Xie and others have such hatred and hostility towards Huateng Industrial Group. Think about it, just a few years ago, what was FAW's position in the domestic passenger car market?In the compact car segment there is the Jetta, and in the luxury segment there are the Audi 100 and Audi A6, both of which are top sellers in their respective segments.
But just a few years later, what about now?
Since Huateng Industrial Group launched the Sylphy and Excelle, the sales of Jetta have been crushed. Even after the introduction of the "driver's car" BORA, sales have not improved much; Audi 100 and Audi A6, the sales of Audi 100 and Audi A6 have never exceeded since Huateng Group's Teana was launched...
Under all the circumstances, how could Deputy Manager Xie and others have a good impression of Huateng Industrial Group?
It's a pity that Huateng Industrial Group was not able to find trouble this time, which made Deputy Manager Xie and others feel a little regretful: Why didn't Huateng Industrial Group infringe on the patent of the oil-stealing otter in hybrid technology?
But on the other hand, after seeing that Huateng Industrial Group has also started to make efforts in hybrid technology, deputy manager Xie and others felt nervous again: Even Huateng Industrial Group has started to engage in hybrid cars , as the big brother, can FAW just watch?
Of course not!
He has already decided that he will report this matter to the leader after he goes back, and try to get the group to introduce the Prius to the oil thief.
Coincidentally, Hiroshi Seto also has similar thoughts and mentality as Deputy Manager Xie: Huateng Industrial Group has started to engage in hybrid power. The fuel-saving effect of the extended-range hybrid can also be significantly improved, not to mention the improvement in driving quality.
Hiroshi Seto has made a decision in his heart, and he must report this situation to the headquarters immediately when he turns back, and remind the headquarters to treat this matter with caution: Huateng Industrial Group is currently limited to the technical level and can only engage in serial extended-range hybrids. But if they have accumulated enough experience, can they create a series-parallel hybrid system based on the series-extended range hybrid?
It’s fine if it’s another Huaxia automobile company. Hiroyuki Seto doesn’t think they can come up with a hybrid system with both series and parallel capabilities without infringing on the THS hybrid patent of the oil otter. But if it is Huateng Industrial Group, an enterprise that has repeatedly created miracles, is hard to say...
I must remind the headquarters of the club to take this matter very seriously.
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Facts have proved that Hiroyuki Seto was right. After he reported the situation he saw at the Beijing International Auto Show to the headquarters of the Stealing Oil Otter Group, Fujio Zhang, the vice president, personally called Hiroyuki Seto. On the mobile phone, I asked him about the situation. After listening to Hiroyuki Seto's detailed report, Fujio Zhang praised: "Mr. Seto, you have done a good job, although the current Huateng Group is only doing the simplest hybrid system, but for this very ambitious Chinese company, we really need to be vigilant."
"Hi!" Despite being separated by the phone, Seto Hiroyuki still bowed and said, "Your Excellency, Vice President, I think so. I think that in China, the most threatening companies to us are not headed by FAW, SAIC, etc. Those old state-owned auto companies are Huateng Industrial Group, which has been forging ahead."
Zhang Fujio responded and nodded in agreement with Seto Hiroyuki's words.
Today, all the automobile manufacturing companies in Dongying can see that those old state-owned automobile manufacturing enterprises in China only want to import some models from the major automobile manufacturing enterprises in Dongying. These newly developed automobile companies headed by Teng Industrial Group are forging ahead one by one and need to be highly vigilant.
In other words, Huaxia's established auto manufacturers are not yet qualified to be opponents of oil thieves. On the contrary, Huateng Industrial Group has shown some bad signs.
(End of this chapter)
"Of course no problem," Liu Jianfeng nodded with a smile, "Our Huateng Group admires the achievements of the oil-stealing otter in hybrid technology, but Mr. Seto, if I remember correctly, you are from a management position. Right? Communication in the technical field, you..."
Seto Hiroyuki's face remained unchanged, and he said calmly: "Liu Jun, you are right, I am indeed from a management position, and I am not very proficient in technology, but I still have some understanding of some basic principles of the hybrid system. , I don’t know Liu Jun, can you briefly introduce to me the basic principle of the company’s hybrid system?
After I understand the working principle of your system, I will report the situation to the headquarters, and then we can arrange for in-depth communication and exchanges between experts from both sides. "
"I understand what you mean," Liu Jianfeng nodded slightly: "Of course there is no problem. To put it simply, our hybrid system adopts a series pure electric drive system structure. The first motor is responsible for power generation and kinetic energy recovery, and the second motor is responsible for power generation and kinetic energy recovery. No. [-] electric motor is used to drive the vehicle, and a large-capacity Ni-MH battery pack is responsible for energy balance and regulation."
The Yifeng executives who came over with Hiroyuki Seto and other Dongying people were still confused. They didn't understand the relationship between the hybrid system of Huateng Industrial Group and the THS hybrid system of the oil otter. What is the difference or similarity, let alone understand whether the hybrid system of Huateng Industrial Group has stolen the THS hybrid technology of the oil otter, so I couldn't help but start discussing in a low voice for a while.
But the faces of the Dongying people headed by Seto Hiroyuki changed. Seto Hiroyuki frowned and confirmed to Liu Jianfeng: "Liu Jun, you mean that this hybrid system of your company can only be connected in series from beginning to end. A working mode that does not have a parallel working mode, and the electric motor is always used to drive the wheels forward, and the engine is only responsible for generating electricity?"
Hiroyuki Seto just lied. Although he is not an expert in hybrid technology, he still knows his own THS hybrid system very well. He is also very clear about the working mode and working logic of his own THS hybrid system. If Hua The hybrid system of Huateng Industrial Group only has such a working mode in series, so there is no question, the hybrid system of Huateng Industrial Group has nothing to do with the hybrid system of the oil-stealing otter, and there is no stealing or stealing. The statement of oil otter hybrid technology.
Of course, if the hybrid system of Huateng Industrial Group is really what Liu Jianfeng said, Hiroyuki Seto felt that he and the oil thief would laugh out loud: If what Liu Jianfeng said is true, then Huateng Industrial Group This so-called hybrid system is just the most technically simple series-type range-extending structure, which belongs to a structural model that the oil otter excluded at the first time when developing the hybrid system, because the structural model of this system It is too simple, and there is no way to compare with the technical content of the Thief THS hybrid system.
Seeing Hiroyuki Seto's face almost bursting into laughter, Liu Jianfeng nodded and said, "That's right, and according to our tests, the fuel consumption of our hybrid system at low and medium speeds is comparable to that of your company's THS hybrid system." The fuel consumption of the dynamic system is almost the same, but the fuel consumption performance at high speed is slightly worse."
Hearing Liu Jianfeng's words, Deputy Manager Xie and others immediately looked at Hiroyuki Seto nervously, wanting to see Hiroyuki Seto pointing at Liu Jianfeng's nose and yelling, but Hiroyuki Seto's reaction made them Disappointed, facing Liu Jianfeng's similarly provocative words...at least in the eyes of Deputy Manager Xie and others, Liu Jianfeng's words were provocative...Seto Hiroyuki's face did not change at all, but nodded in agreement. : "Indeed, with this serial range-extending working mode, when the vehicle is at low and medium speeds, the fuel consumption performance is indeed very obvious. We have also tested the oil otter, and the fuel consumption is different from the THS hybrid system of our oil otter. Not many."
Hearing Seto Hiroyuki's words, Deputy Manager Xie and the others were stunned: What the hell are you Seto Hiroyuki doing?
..............................
After a while, he left from the booth of Huateng Industrial Group. Before Deputy Manager Xie and others could speak, Hiroyuki Seto sighed and said, "The hybrid system of Huateng Group has nothing to do with the THS hybrid technology of stealing oil. anything."
"how is this possible?"
Hearing Hiroyuki Seto's words, Deputy Manager Xie and the other guys who were going to trouble Huateng Industrial Group were stunned for a moment, not daring to listen to them.
"It's true," said Hiroyuki Seto suddenly with a proud smile on his face: "But everyone, don't worry, compared with the HTS hybrid technology with our stealing oil otter, their hybrid technology The system can be said to be the most primitive and most backward hybrid technology, and it is completely incomparable with the THS hybrid technology that I even stole oil otters from. "
Deputy Manager Xie quickly asked, "Mr. Seto, how do you say that?"
After confirming that the hybrid system of Huateng Industrial Group would not pose a threat to oil thieves, Hiroyuki Seto was in a good mood. He smiled and explained to Deputy Manager Xie and others: "Let me introduce you briefly. You know, to put it simply, the hybrid system of Huateng Group is that the engine drives the generator to generate electricity, and then uses the generated electricity to drive the electric motor to drive the vehicle.”
"It's that simple?"
Deputy Manager Xie and the others couldn't believe it: Isn't this too simple?
Seto Hiroyuki nodded and said: "Actually, of course it is not that simple. A battery is needed to adjust and balance the balance between the power consumption of the motor and the power generation of the generator. In addition, the control logic of the electronic control system also needs to be well calibrated. , but in general, it is the working model I just mentioned.”
Deputy Manager Xie still couldn't believe it: "But... that Liu just said that the fuel consumption of their hybrid system at low and medium speeds is almost the same as your THS hybrid system."
"Well, that is indeed the case," Hiroyuki Seto did not deny, he nodded and said: "When the vehicle is in the motor-driven mode, when the vehicle is running at low and medium speeds, the power required is not high. A few kilowatts of power is enough, which means that the electricity in the battery can drive the vehicle for a relatively long distance. As long as they have an engine that has been tuned and optimized for the hybrid drive mode, the engine will not will always start.
If we take a distance of 100 kilometers in the urban area and the suburbs as an example, the engine of a traditional car needs to run all the time, and the working condition of the engine is extremely unstable. After the hybrid system, the start-up and running time of the engine may only be 5.00% of the total driving time. After the engine is started, it can always run in the high fuel efficiency zone. The engine has high operating efficiency and short running time. It will naturally drop down, so in this working mode, when the vehicle is running at medium and low speeds, the fuel consumption of 4.5 liters is completely achievable. "
"..."
Deputy manager Xie was dumbfounded: Is it still possible?
After a pause, he carefully asked Hiroyuki Seto: "But this hybrid system of Huateng Group still can't be compared with this THS hybrid system of Stealing Oil, right?"
"Of course!" When it comes to this, Seto Hiroshi's face is proud: "The THS hybrid system of our stealer is the best hybrid system in the world today, which can make the vehicle work no matter what the working conditions are. In the best working condition, Huateng Group's series hybrid system can't do this... I just said that the concept of Huateng Group's hybrid system was stolen by me from the very beginning. Excluded, because it is too backward!"
Hiroyuki Seto really has reason to be proud and proud. Today in 2002, the THS hybrid system of Stealing Oil Otter is indeed very powerful, and it can even be said to be the only one in the world. After seeing the series series of Huateng Group After installing the extended-range hybrid system, the last worry in Hiroshi Seto's heart disappeared. He didn't think that the hybrid system of Huateng Group was qualified to compete with the oil-stealing otter at all.
But Deputy Manager Xie, he doesn't care about this at all. He doesn't care whether the hybrid system of Huateng Group is good or not. Seeing that Seto Hiroyuki has never been on the road, Deputy Manager Xie didn't go around in circles, so he asked directly: "Then Mr. Seto, do you think this hybrid system of Huateng Group has infringed on the patent of Stealer on hybrid technology?"
"Probably not." Speaking of this, Hiroyuki Seto felt a little regretful: "Because the technical ideas of our two companies are completely different."
"That's it," Deputy Manager Xie couldn't hide his disappointment on his face, "Is it true that there is no patent infringement at all?"
Hiroyuki Seto couldn't understand why Deputy Manager Xie was so persistent on this issue. He thought for a while, and simply said: "To give an inappropriate example, the THS hybrid system we stole the oil otter is a gasoline engine, and the Huateng Group This hybrid system is a diesel engine, what technical patent do you think a diesel engine can infringe on a gasoline engine?"
"Is that so?"
Deputy Manager Xie opened his mouth, and finally lowered his head in frustration: It seems that there is no way to trip Huateng Group.
Not only Deputy Manager Xie, but also other Yifeng management personnel felt quite regretful: Why did it become this one line?
Speaking of which, it's not surprising that deputy manager Xie and others have such hatred and hostility towards Huateng Industrial Group. Think about it, just a few years ago, what was FAW's position in the domestic passenger car market?In the compact car segment there is the Jetta, and in the luxury segment there are the Audi 100 and Audi A6, both of which are top sellers in their respective segments.
But just a few years later, what about now?
Since Huateng Industrial Group launched the Sylphy and Excelle, the sales of Jetta have been crushed. Even after the introduction of the "driver's car" BORA, sales have not improved much; Audi 100 and Audi A6, the sales of Audi 100 and Audi A6 have never exceeded since Huateng Group's Teana was launched...
Under all the circumstances, how could Deputy Manager Xie and others have a good impression of Huateng Industrial Group?
It's a pity that Huateng Industrial Group was not able to find trouble this time, which made Deputy Manager Xie and others feel a little regretful: Why didn't Huateng Industrial Group infringe on the patent of the oil-stealing otter in hybrid technology?
But on the other hand, after seeing that Huateng Industrial Group has also started to make efforts in hybrid technology, deputy manager Xie and others felt nervous again: Even Huateng Industrial Group has started to engage in hybrid cars , as the big brother, can FAW just watch?
Of course not!
He has already decided that he will report this matter to the leader after he goes back, and try to get the group to introduce the Prius to the oil thief.
Coincidentally, Hiroshi Seto also has similar thoughts and mentality as Deputy Manager Xie: Huateng Industrial Group has started to engage in hybrid power. The fuel-saving effect of the extended-range hybrid can also be significantly improved, not to mention the improvement in driving quality.
Hiroshi Seto has made a decision in his heart, and he must report this situation to the headquarters immediately when he turns back, and remind the headquarters to treat this matter with caution: Huateng Industrial Group is currently limited to the technical level and can only engage in serial extended-range hybrids. But if they have accumulated enough experience, can they create a series-parallel hybrid system based on the series-extended range hybrid?
It’s fine if it’s another Huaxia automobile company. Hiroyuki Seto doesn’t think they can come up with a hybrid system with both series and parallel capabilities without infringing on the THS hybrid patent of the oil otter. But if it is Huateng Industrial Group, an enterprise that has repeatedly created miracles, is hard to say...
I must remind the headquarters of the club to take this matter very seriously.
------------
Facts have proved that Hiroyuki Seto was right. After he reported the situation he saw at the Beijing International Auto Show to the headquarters of the Stealing Oil Otter Group, Fujio Zhang, the vice president, personally called Hiroyuki Seto. On the mobile phone, I asked him about the situation. After listening to Hiroyuki Seto's detailed report, Fujio Zhang praised: "Mr. Seto, you have done a good job, although the current Huateng Group is only doing the simplest hybrid system, but for this very ambitious Chinese company, we really need to be vigilant."
"Hi!" Despite being separated by the phone, Seto Hiroyuki still bowed and said, "Your Excellency, Vice President, I think so. I think that in China, the most threatening companies to us are not headed by FAW, SAIC, etc. Those old state-owned auto companies are Huateng Industrial Group, which has been forging ahead."
Zhang Fujio responded and nodded in agreement with Seto Hiroyuki's words.
Today, all the automobile manufacturing companies in Dongying can see that those old state-owned automobile manufacturing enterprises in China only want to import some models from the major automobile manufacturing enterprises in Dongying. These newly developed automobile companies headed by Teng Industrial Group are forging ahead one by one and need to be highly vigilant.
In other words, Huaxia's established auto manufacturers are not yet qualified to be opponents of oil thieves. On the contrary, Huateng Industrial Group has shown some bad signs.
(End of this chapter)
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