Daming Yuanfu

Chapter 1590 Taking Chestnuts from the Fire ([-]) A Large Number
The reason why almost any business cannot be successful is because the price cannot be negotiated. In the same way, the necessary prerequisite for almost any business to be successful is that the price can be negotiated.

However, for the Toyotomi family to find Jinghua to customize a warship, it is certainly not a problem in terms of the hull itself, but there are still some troubles beyond the price of the ship's weapons that need to be avoided.

In fact, the laws of the Ming Dynasty can be roughly regarded as the continental law system, that is, the statute law. The emphasis on private rights is "freedom without law prohibition", and the Ming Dynasty did not impose a ban on the sale of iron or weapons against Japan. .In theory, Gao Pragmatism can indeed sell any weapons to Japan, including muskets and artillery.

Why is there no embargo against Japan?Because Japan was among the fifteen "countries not to be confiscated" by Emperor Taizu, and the official relationship between the Japanese court and Ming Dynasty was pretty good.

Yes, although the Japanese pirate issue has troubled the Ming Dynasty for more than a hundred years, the Japanese pirate issue itself is a private cooperation between the Japanese pirates and the Ming pirates, and has nothing to do with the Japanese court (actually the shogunate).Even when the shogunate was relatively strong, they also assisted the Ming and Qing dynasties in suppressing Japanese pirates, but the Muromachi shogunate... was too hip, and the so-called strong period was really too short.

Since Gao Pragmatism's "debut", the issue of "Nation of Unconquered" has always been his shackles to some extent, which is a bad thing.

These fifteen countries are sorted, and the order is North Korea, Japan, Greater Liuqiu, Xiaoliuqiu, Annan, Chenla, Siam, Champa, Sumatra, Xiyang, Java, Pahang, Baihua, Sanfoqi, Bo mud.

Some of these countries have already died out naturally, not to mention.For Annan alone, Zhu Di’s reason for sending troops back then was “a gift from God”. The specific reasons were mentioned above, so I won’t repeat them. In short, he sent troops under the banner of restoring the Chen dynasty.As for why it was directly occupied later... because the Chen family was killed by the rebels.

It was even more troublesome for Gao Yushi to send troops later. He relied on luring snakes out of the cave and planting spoils, and then only used private soldiers and chieftain wolf soldiers to complete the conquest, without using a Ming Dynasty's Jingzhi army in the whole process.This approach, to a large extent, is to avoid Zhu Yuanzhang's setting of "a country without conquest".

The setting of "Nation of Unconquered" is similar to some other arrangements of Zhu Yuanzhang, making the mistake of "stationary eyes".In other words, there were good reasons not to attack these countries when Zhu Yuanzhang was alive.The problem was that the situation at that time could not change after a period of time, but Zhu Yuanzhang didn't consider these possible changes at all, and directly banned the ancestral system, so the descendants of the Zhu family could only conquer even if they were able to conquer in terms of ability. Can stare.

During the Hongwu period, the main energy of the Ming court was to restore production and maintain internal governance. In addition, the main targets at that time were still the Mongolian tribes in the north. These "countries without conquest" actually had no energy to conscript.

After the "Emperor Ming Zu Xun" was completed and promulgated, Taizu Zhu Yuanzhang required the successor emperors to strictly follow the instructions. In fact, he was still a little worried that the temptation to expand the territory would cause the successor emperors to ignore the threat from the north and fight against those remote areas. A small country in a corner.Zhu Yuanzhang probably thought it was a waste of people's power, so he banned it.

In the fourth year of Hongwu, Zhu Yuanzhang said in his edict: "Overseas barbarian countries have troubles with China, and they must be punished. If they are not Chinese patients, they must not reinvigorate their own troops. The ancients said that a large land is not a long-term security, and it is easy to count people's labor. source of chaos.

For example, Emperor Yang of the Sui Dynasty launched a military brigade in arrogance, conquered Ryukyu, killed barbarians, burned his palace, and captured thousands of men and women. The annals of history are ridiculed by later generations.

I regard the barbarians as small countries, blocking the mountains and crossing the sea, secluded in a corner, they are not Chinese patients, and I will never attack them, but the Hurong in the northwest, the world is China's troubles, you must be careful ears, you should remember what you said, I know what I mean. "

The above is Zhu Yuanzhang's explanation for setting the "Nation of No Conquest". Simply put, it is "inconvenient to fight, but useless to fight." So it is reasonable not to fight.

However, if you take a closer look at Zhu Yuanzhang's original words, you will find that he actually left a back door: "He is not a Chinese patient, and I will never kill him"-then, if "He is a Chinese patient", can he be able to cut it?In theory it should be.

At this point, the key factor has changed, and it becomes how to define "that is China's trouble".

Yang Guang’s reason for beating Korea is actually similar to Li Shimin’s reason for beating Korea. For example, Li Shimin said: “Today’s Dading, only Liaodong has not been honored. Take it, so that future generations will not worry about it.”

Look, for a pioneering emperor like Li Shimin, when he wants to decide who to attack, his thinking is not that the other country is already "invading China", but just "not to worry about future generations".Relatively speaking, Zhu Yuanzhang’s thinking was too conservative. It seemed that he really believed that "being in China and governing all nations" was an absolute truth, and he never imagined the changes in the situation under the changing times and whether these changes could be "in order No change, no change."

Of course, given the situation Zhu Yuanzhang was facing at the time, it made sense to do so.North Korea, for example, was speculative at the end of the Yuan Dynasty, but there were several hidden dangers after Li Chenggui seized power.Its internal political power needs to be integrated, and there are Japanese pirates harassing externally. During his reign, he solved the Japanese invasion, and the measures he took against the Ming Dynasty were very obedient to the Ming Dynasty.

This kind of obedience originated from the powerful military power of the Ming Dynasty, and the second was to use the momentum of the Ming Dynasty to maintain its rule-in fact, as early as the second year of Hongwu, the Koryo Dynasty had already sent envoys to pay tribute. Li Chenggui After seizing power and establishing North Korea, Zhu Yuanzhang held the title of King of North Korea for many years in the name of usurping the throne.

As for Annan, his political consciousness was also very high at that time.In the second year of Hongwu, at Renwu, the King of Annan, Chen Rixuan, sent his young senior official Tong Min, Zheng Dafu Ji Ti, Li Anshi, etc. to pay tribute to Fang Wu, because he asked to be knighted.

Because of his good attitude, Daming also received good feedback. He ordered Zhang Yining, a scholar in the Imperial Academy, and Niu Liang, Dianbo, to his country, made Riying the king of Annan, and bestowed a camel button with gold and silver seals.At that time, Annan came to pay tribute from time to time, and he also liked to pay tribute to elephants, which made Zhu Yuanzhang quite satisfied.

Later, during the Yongle Dynasty, Li Dabiao made a taboo, thinking that the tribute system was the diplomatic program of the upper kingdom of the celestial dynasty, and it was fine if you killed King Annan's family and pretended to be it, but there was nothing wrong with it?So it was only natural that Zhu Di sent General Zhang to slap his face.

All in all, Zhu Yuanzhang's setting of these "countries without conquest" is not only related to the current situation at that time, but also related to the diplomatic principles of the tributary system that China has always insisted on implementing, and also related to Zhu Yuanzhang's understanding of these small countries at that time-intuitively speaking The benefits are limited.

Most of these non-expropriation countries are included in the tributary system, which is the embodiment of the Ming Dynasty's maintenance of the so-called celestial status.As for these settings restricting the diplomacy and expansion of the Ming Dynasty... Zhu Yuanzhang’s considerations are obviously different from Gao’s pragmatism. For him, what can he gain by conquering Vietnam?Even later, when Zheng He went to the West to conquer the natives along the way, what could he gain in the eyes of the emperor?coconut?Sumac?spices?Or a giraffe?

From the perspective of most people at that time, none of these things were necessities, and considering the long journey and the high cost of maintaining these territories in the future, it was probably a loss-making business, and it would be better not to fight them.

Most of the small countries in the south have been accepted by Jinghua, so there is no need to talk about them for the time being.Just talking about Japan, in fact, it has already escaped from the situation of "tasteless food" in Zhu Yuanzhang's eyes at that time.The huge amount of silver output alone is what Gao Wuzhen has to pay attention to, and is even indispensable for the current currency reform.

Because of the restrictions of the country of no conquest, it is impossible for Gao Yushi to take the initiative to send troops to Japan, and must wait for Toyotomi Hideyoshi to send troops to North Korea.However, in the original history, after the Ming Dynasty fought the Korean War, it not only disabled the main force of the Li family army in Liaodong, but also emptied the treasury and internal funds.

These two major problems led to the court having to take advantage of Li Chengliang's prestige and let him suppress Liao for the second time, while the emperor sent Gao Huai to make up for the shortfall in Liaodong.

Gao Yushi's current suppression of Nurhachi is not bad. Of course, he mainly needs Nurhachi's military threat to ensure the loyalty of Yehe, Hada and other ministries to Daming, so it is inconvenient for him to kill Nurhachi in advance. Now he has to play with the balance.

Nurhachi can't die now, which actually means that Liaodong can't be beaten and exhausted during the North Korean war, so that he can lose his suppression and quickly unify the Jurchen ministries.This requires the Great Ming Center to have sufficient financial resources to support the Korean War, and it is best not to fight for six years, and try to win the battle as quickly as possible.

To sum it up in one sentence, we must have money and sufficient transportation capacity to support overseas operations.Only in this way can the army be concentrated and push the Japanese army directly into the sea.

Before Luo Yuan came to Japan, Gao Yushi personally taught him how to do it face-to-face, and then granted him quite a lot of authority, including the authority to deal in arms.

However, the authority Gao Pragmatism gave him was not to allow him to trade, but to tell him what he could not trade.Gao Yushi's original words at the beginning were "I can't teach others what is important to me".

However, this is the first time for Luo Yuan to take on a heavy responsibility, so he was afraid that there might be some misunderstanding in his understanding, so he asked "what is a heavy weapon".Gao Wushi replied: "The strongest and newest equipment in the garrison is the heavy equipment." Now Luo Yuan felt relieved.

According to the high-practical explanation, Luo Yuan believes that the military purchase proposed by the Toyotomi family is generally feasible-because the largest warship they want is not the size of an armed transport ship, and the armament on the ship is of course inferior, at least it is impossible to load the No. [-] gun .

The No. [-] Cannon is currently the largest artillery equipped by the Jinghua garrison and various armed households in the Ming Dynasty. It is generally used for the defense of bastions in key areas, mainly in southern Xinjiang.

Of course, more of them may be installed on warships in the future-only military ships will be loaded, and armed transport ships will not be installed, because the artillery deck's bearing capacity is not enough, and the deck may be damaged during a salvo.Due to the current limited number of pure warships, the "production line" of the No. [-] gun has not been many, and the production capacity is relatively limited.

In Luo Yuan's opinion, the No. [-] cannon is no longer in the highly pragmatic prohibited category, and can be sold to the Toyotomi family—in fact, the Toyotomi family got it from some nobles in the Maritime Trade Alliance. Some, in fact, I'm afraid the difference is not big.

So Luo Yuan asked Toyotomi Hidecho in detail, and the latter said that the new-style Daifuku ship they wanted should be equipped with [-] giant cannons (No. It is impossible for the size of the Dafu ship to carry more than [-] cannons, otherwise, the deck might be shattered if the cannons are fired, and the speed and seaworthiness may be affected, which is definitely not worth the loss.

At first, Toyotomi Hideaga thought that Luo Yuan was just cherishing his own broom and did not want Japan to get more artillery. After careful questioning, he found that Luo Yuan was speaking clearly and logically. Adopting Luo Yuan's opinion, the Dafu ship's gun load was set at eighteen, including six No. [-] guns and twelve No. [-] guns.

In fact, the new small Fuchuan is not small, it is one size larger than the ordinary Japanese domestic ships, and it was finally determined to carry two No. [-] guns and ten No. [-] guns.

Then it's time to talk about price.

Although Luo Yuan is not from the shipyard, he has worked all the way from an ordinary technical employee of Jinghua to the captain of the pure warship "Left Wing Hussar", and he knows the cost price and ex-factory price of the ship like the back of his hand.Therefore, he first quoted: the price of a single new-style Dafu ship is 6 taels of Kuping silver, and the price of a single new-style Xiaofu boat is 4 taels of Kuping silver.

Toyotomi Hidecho was taken aback when he heard that, and asked why Luo Yuan was so expensive?Luo Yuandao: "After all, it is custom-made. Jinghua has to redesign it and form a new production system before it can be built. The price is naturally more expensive."

The good one is "a bit more expensive". The armed transport ship is about 28% larger than the new Dafu ship. It carries 5000 guns, including eight No. 6 guns, but the price of a single ship is only 4 taels.He actually quoted a price of [-] taels for a new type of big blessing boat that was significantly smaller than it, and he actually quoted a price of [-] taels for a new type of small blessing boat that was only two-fifths the size of an armed transport ship. Pig!

Toyotomi Hidecho had done his homework and knew the selling price of armed transport ships in Daming, so he immediately raised a tactful question.However, Luo Yuan's face was not red and his heart was not beating. He said plausibly: "Your Excellency Da Nayan's words are a bit unprofessional. My master is not my emperor. This is a big matter of selling military weapons and neighboring countries. How can you not handle it from top to bottom?" Reason? How expensive is this management, Da Nayan might as well think about the Japanese ministers."

Toyotomi Hideaga was stunned and speechless. What you said made sense, but I was speechless.However, he finally threw out a trump card, saying: "What if my Toyotomi family purchases in large quantities? This can always be a little bit more flexible on the price, right?"

Luo Yuan has been waiting for the words "mass purchase" for a long time. Hearing what Toyotomi Hideaga said, he immediately asked, "What is a large amount? How much is this large amount?"

Toyotomi Hideaga laughed: "Your Highness, to tell the truth, as many of these two types of new Fuchuan Jinghua can build, as much as my Toyotomi family will want!"
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