I haven't seen fireworks.

Chapter 452 Justice and Injustice
When your position is correct enough, you will find that you are invincible in the debate field.

Unless the facts are aside.

As long as you admit that the lives of the people are also life, and that the lives of Whitebeard and tens of thousands of pirates are not worth the lives of millions of people all over the world who have been bullied by pirates, then Whitebeard's death is just!

Will Marco disregard the lives of the people?

Impossible, because he was also a ship doctor while he was the captain of the first team.

As for doctors, unless they are Hobak (Moria's zombie doctor), they will have a kind of reverence for life!
What's more, a person who can be the captain of the first team needs to be able to convince others in terms of personality and charm. White Beard is not a brutal person. The wicked.

The same is true for Ace. People who are taught by Karp may go wrong, but the most basic three views are still okay.

Therefore, the two of them could not refute Sun Jingyun's remarks.

The result that can't be refuted is that you have already died of grief, and now some people say that you deserved your failure?

The indifference in their hearts instantly turned into anger!
"So, are you here to laugh at us!" Marco roared.

Sun Jingyun hurriedly waved his hands, shook his head and said, "How can I have such a bad taste? In fact, I'm here to invite you!",

"Invite us?" Marco hehe: "You are a navy, you want to go to sea to be a pirate, right?"

"That's not true. The invitation I said was not to invite you to board the ship, but to invite a few of you to join the navy!" Sun Jingyun said sincerely. In order to prevent the two from feeling bad, he did not dare to have a slight condescending meaning in his words. .

But even so, it still angered the two of them.

Marco shook the chain and banged on the table: "What do you mean, you killed so many of our brothers and our father, and now you want us to join the navy?"

Sun Jingyun nodded: "Why not?"

Marco is already going to be pissed off, why do you still ask?
"Because you killed our father and killed so many of our brothers! I don't care if you are just or not, or whether your behavior is reasonable or not. We are already deadly enemies when we get here. You'd better kill him now." Our, or our only purpose in life, is revenge!"

Sun Jingyun was silent for a while, then turned to Ace and asked, "Do you think so too?"

Ace nodded heavily.

"So, you think your enemy is the navy!" Sun Jingyun seemed to be questioning, but he used a declarative tone.

"That's not it!" Marco began to wonder in his heart, is this the level of the Navy's staff?Do you have any brains?
But when he thought that the Whitebeard Pirates had lost to such a person again, he immediately became even angrier.

But Sun Jingyun shook his head: "So, why did the navy and you guys come to this point? Why did Whitebeard die? Or, why was Ace arrested and publicly executed if he was caught?"

"You!" Marco was about to curse, but his words were interrupted again: "Marco, you are also the role of the think tank on the white beard ship, don't let me look down on you, calm down, let's use our brains to think about it, okay? Don't quarrel with me at every turn, will it be of any benefit to our conversation? Or, even if you want to kill me and the navy, you have to be flattering on the surface to escape better!"

"Hmph, who wants to talk to you!" Marco muttered, and finally stopped arguing. After all, Sun Jingyun mentioned the Whitebeard Pirates. Now that Whitebeard is gone, he is the representative of the Whitebeard Pirates!
"Because we are pirates and you are navy, isn't it normal to confront?" he replied.

Sun Jingyun nodded: "Then why are the navy and pirates naturally confronting each other?"

"Ah" Marco said of course: "Isn't this a normal thing? The navy exists to maintain the rule of the world government, and we pirates have caused damage to the rule of the world government!"

"Huh?" Sun Jingyun was stunned for a moment: "Shouldn't you say that the navy is just and the pirates are evil?"

"Hehe!" Marco sneered: "Only your navy thinks so. Who says the navy is just, and what you did in O'Hara is just? Or is it just to be a bodyguard for the Tianlong people?"

"On the other hand, in the territory of our Whitebeard Pirates, we have exempted most of the countries from levying various taxes, and those people only need to pay us taxes. flag, the people will no longer be harassed by pirates!"

"When it comes to justice, we, the Whitebeard Pirates, are justice!"

"But you can't deny that not the entire Whitebeard Pirates are like you." Sun Jingyun said: "You have some pirates who do all kinds of crimes, including burning, killing, and looting!"

"That's what they did before they joined the Whitebeard Pirates. After joining the Whitebeard Pirates, we have already begun to control their behavior. They are really stubborn. We won't be polite and deal with it directly. You guys You can go to the New World to see and investigate how many evildoers there are under the command of the Whitebeard Pirates!" Marko said unconvinced.

Sun Jingyun nodded: "If you want to put it this way, the navy advertises itself as righteous, and you also say that you are righteous. Since we are all righteous, why can't we be friends or a group, and instead fight against each other?"

"Cut!" Marco shook his head: "What is the justice of the navy, it's just false justice, you should answer my question first, is your behavior in O'Hara just, is your protection of the Tianlong people just, you are the navy Senior staff officer, don't tell me you don't know these things!"

Sun Jingyun shook his head: "In fact, it's more than that. After the Sun Pirates were disbanded, the Dragon Pirates formed a Dragon Pirates. They ruled over a dozen villages in the East China Sea and collected taxes based on their heads. , the one who provided protection for their actions was Colonel Mouse of the 16th Division of the Navy!"

"Huh?" Marco was taken aback, wait, something is wrong with your words, shouldn't you refute me?
"The Demon Slaughter Order was not only used on O'Hara, it was also used on Judicial Island when dealing with the Straw Hat Pirates. At that time, tens of thousands of residents on Judicial Island were harmed, and the Navy did not respond to this. No compensation, no rescue action!"

"Huh?" Marco was even more surprised, wait, which side are you on?

"Actually, there are many such examples. If I list them one by one, I'm afraid I can't finish them in three days and three nights!" Sun Jingyun said: "But besides this, you can't deny that the navy's actions against pirates are indeed true. Protected a lot of people, didn’t you! So just like you Whitebeard Pirates think you are just, but there are also many pirates who are unjust. You think the justice of our navy is unjust, but many of our actions are indeed true. It is justice!!"

"So, are you going to whitewash your navy's actions?" Marco said.

Sun Jingyun shook his head: "Why should I whitewash him? I have only joined the navy for less than two months, and I don't have that deep affection for the navy yet!"

"Then what are you doing here?" Marco asked.

"Didn't I say that, I'm here to invite you to join!" Sun Jingyun said: "Since you think you are righteous, I think I am also righteous. We can be partners, can't we?"

"Then" Marco was almost stunned: "I've said it all, the hatred between us."

"That is to say, you have no objection to justice?" Sun Jingyun asked eagerly.

"Uh" Marco was silent, how do you ask me to answer.

You have separated justice from injustice, and of course I cannot refute it.

"It seems that there is indeed no objection, so let's talk about the issue of hatred!" Sun Jingyun asked: "It was Akainu who killed Whitebeard, Garp and Aokiji who besieged him, and I was the one who made the plan." , More than 1 people in the Whitebeard Pirates were killed, and if you find out and kill the [-] navy hiding pirates, doesn't it mean that the enemies of your Whitebeard Pirates are us people?"

"This!" Marco was a little confused, yes, or not?
If yes, then it must be, after all, they are the ones who do it directly!
But if it is not, then it will work, because the navy is only following orders, even if it is Sun Jingyun who made the plan, Sun Jingyun is also the executor of the navy's will.

They are like a knife for killing people, and it is definitely inappropriate to hold a knife accountable.

Then go to hold accountable Marshal Zhan Guo who gave the order?

But does Marshal Sengoku have any personal enmity with Whitebeard?Do you have any personal feud with Ace?

Neither!

Why did he go against the Whitebeard Pirates?
Because there is something deeper behind it.
The more Marco thought about it, the more confused he became, and the more he thought about it, the more frightened he became. At this moment, he was surprised to find that he didn't seem to understand who his enemy was!
"It seems that you have already realized it!" Sun Jingyun looked at Marco who was in shock and confusion, and smiled.

Marco is not an idiot, he is the captain of a pirate group.

With the strength and influence of the Whitebeard Pirates at that time, it is not an exaggeration to say that it is a country, and a person like Marco is obviously the prime minister, or the kind of king who doesn't take care of things very much and wants to look at personnel, finances and other affairs super prime minister.

He is obviously not lacking in wisdom.

And it is obviously very easy to talk to such a wise person.

"It seems that you have realized it! This morality is not troublesome in the first place. After all, since everyone is righteous, how can justice kill each other!"

"Then who is our enemy?"

Sun Jingyun smiled and said: "It's very simple, this is something that hinders justice among us, it is the injustice within the navy, and it is also the injustice among pirates, you can't even find who your enemy is , It is also ridiculous to say that you want revenge!

"If you really went to kill the Warring States, believe it or not, it's definitely not you who are happy, but those injustices?"

"This..." Marco turned his head to look at Ace, and then at Sun Jingyun. He seemed to understand, but he didn't seem to understand.

But he had vaguely sensed that this person seemed to be talking about something incredible!
"Then what is this injustice?" Marco felt his voice hoarse, not because of thirst, but because he realized that he might be getting closer to the truth of the matter.

Sun Jingyun let out a long sigh of relief, finally getting to the point.

not easy!
"You are just, and you want to take revenge. I am also just, and I also want to fight injustice, so we have a natural basis for cooperation. But whether it is confrontation or revenge, we have to do it first." Know who is just and who is unjust, who is our friend and who is our enemy."

"Otherwise, if you take revenge on your friends, but treat your enemies as friends, it will only hurt your loved ones, and speed up your enemies!"

"This" Marco thought deeply, and finally nodded: "Then, who are our friends and who are our enemies?"

"Let me ask you, Sengoku, Aokiji, Yellow Monkey, and Red Dog, are they your enemies?" Sun Jingyun asked.

"This" Marco hesitated for a moment, and said yes deliberately, but he knew that it was not
"Although I don't approve of some of Akainu's practices, I still admire him a lot. Not everyone can fight against evil firmly!" Marco hesitated, facing the murder of his father. The culprit, he still gave a fair assessment.

Sun Jingyun nodded.

I think when the manga was first updated to the top war, the red dog was called the red dog, and there was a lot of scolding on the Internet.

But when these readers grew up and matured, they realized that Akainu's approach was correct. He was a model soldier.

Akainu didn't kill their relatives, he just killed a popular character, so he was scolded like this.

But he killed Whitebeard with his own hands, and it was really not easy for Marco to be soberly aware of this amidst his hatred.

"What about me, am I the enemy?" Sun Jingyun asked again.

Marco shook his head: "I just met you today, and I don't know much about you. How can I know whether you are a friend or an enemy?"

Sun Jingyun nodded: "Then, who is our enemy?"

Forehead..
We are illiterate, you ask me?
Marco looked at Sun Jingyun speechlessly, and was about to say something, but Ace next to him spoke first: "Are the nobles of the Kingdom of Goa considered enemies?"

"Huh?" Marco was stunned: "What are you talking about, Ace? The Kingdom of Goya is far away in the East China Sea. How could they be our enemies?"

"But the rule maintained by the world government is not the nobles who are maintained? And whose rule are we pirates destroying? Isn't it the nobles?" Ace still can't forget his life in the garbage mountain. , I can't forget the aristocrats in the high wall living arrogance and luxury!

"They raised prices, oppressed the people, used various methods to squeeze money from everyone, plundered their wives and children, and even burned them on fire for the sake of their so-called face."

Ace let out a sigh of relief: "I couldn't accurately describe this kind of behavior before, but now after listening to you, isn't their behavior unjust?"

"This..." Marco thought for a while, it seemed to be true!
However, such people are the protection targets of the Navy!

So, when you ask this navy in front of him, is the target he protects unjust?
Then he looked at Sun Jingyun with a look of astonishment and nodded: "For the sake of the rich, it is unjust to extort money without mercy!"

"Eh?" Marco was shocked, he actually nodded!
Turning his head to look at Ace, Ace continued to ask: "That day, the dragon people used people as slaves, shot and killed passers-by at will, and ordered shelling when they saw someone blocking their way. Isn't this kind of behavior unjust!"

"Huh?" Marco was even more shocked. Do you dare to criticize Tianlongren?
Although he is a pirate, the 800-year ideological rule is not a joke. He also regards the Tianlong people as the descendants of gods. That is, after the Tianlong people were beaten by Luffy, his thoughts changed a little bit, but Also just a little bit.

Didn't expect Ace.
"Ace, what have you been through these years?" He suddenly realized that he didn't know this brother at all.

But what shocked him even more was that the lieutenant general nodded again!
"It's more than arrogant and domineering. The top leaders of the world government are Tianlong people, and the O'Hara incident that year was an order issued by the world government. The navy is only the executor. Marco, you think the O'Hara incident is unjust, so now The Lord has also been found!"

"Do you know what you're talking about?" Marco looked out in panic.

"No, you are a pirate, are you still afraid of sky people?" Sun Jingyun was a little curious: "Shouldn't a pirate be lawless?"

"But, but." Marco hesitated for a long time, but there was no reason why he came.

Instead, his mind was opened.

That's right, I'm a pirate, why should I be in awe of those Tianlong people?
That's right, the Celestial Dragons are unjust!
(End of this chapter)