As a mage, I just want to pursue the truth

Chapter 299 Unemployment
There is a long time delay for most individuals to perceive the drastic changes of the times.

The autopilot technology industry has been arguing for many years, and the vast majority of drivers will not pay attention to cutting-edge autopilot technology.

Most of them only care about their own income, their children's education and how to relieve physical exhaustion and mental numbness.

On today’s headlines or Douyin platform, I saw the sensational remarks of popular science bloggers, saying that drivers will be replaced by artificial intelligence in the future.

Truck drivers also just forget about it, and don't really think that self-driving technology can replace humans.

However, when the advancement of technology really affects their own interests, they will try to fight back until they find that they cannot go against the trend.

In the past, when online car-hailing became popular and affected the interests of taxi drivers, taxi drivers often fought with online car-hailing groups.

This only touched part of their interests.

That's not to mention truck drivers being directly replaced by artificial intelligence.

It's true that truck drivers are hard, but they're also well paid.

In American, whether it is Wal-Mart or Amazon, online and offline "supermarkets" pay truck drivers quite high salaries.

Before the popularization of automatic trucks, Wal-Mart paid truck drivers more than 80 RMB.

These truck drivers who have lost their jobs due to technological advancement basically make a big fuss every now and then.

Many truck drivers even ran to the U.S.-Mexico border to drive black cars in order to make a living, specializing in the business of illegal immigration.

"The mass unemployment of truck drivers is just an episode that cannot be counted as a silhouette under the great changes of the times brought about by technological progress.

There will be more and more similar incidents in the future.

After autonomous driving technology enters the civilian scene, the number of unemployed people will be even more alarming.

In my impression, American has more than ten times the number of truck drivers on Uber alone.

Not to mention that Uber is a global enterprise, and the number of online car-hailing drivers in China is even wider.

Unemployment of these people will bring more serious social problems.

This is a problem that every entrepreneur and government needs to face, and it will inevitably happen in the future.

How to create new job opportunities so that people who are unemployed due to technological progress can have a job. "

Musk continued: "What I just mentioned is only the people who are directly affected by technological advancement.

There are also many people who are indirectly affected by technological progress.

For example, in the short term, it is unlikely that robots will be able to replace human food delivery staff.

But they will also be affected by self-driving technology.

After a large number of drivers lost their jobs, many chose to transition to work as takeaway food delivery staff, which will lead to a decline in salaries in this industry.

Things never exist in isolation, and there are extensive and profound connections between them. "

The host took over the conversation, "Thank you very much Mr. Musk for your wonderful speech. What does Mr. Zheng have to say about this?"

Zheng Li said after a little thought: "I agree with Musk's point of view.

The industrial Internetization of the manufacturing industry will inevitably lead to the unemployment of a large number of manufacturing workers.

Take our cooperation with Baosteel as an example. Baosteel has about [-] employees, and after the large-scale promotion of the smart steel factory jointly built by Baosteel, Huawei and us.

Only 5000 people are needed to maintain twice the current production capacity.

Another 5000 people will face unemployment and re-employment.

For Huaguo and the world, it is obviously not just a problem of these 5000 people, it will spread to the entire manufacturing industry.

This number must be multiplied by at least ten thousand. "

Taking Baosteel as an example, according to Baosteel's 2013 annual financial report, they had 130962 employees, and this number has changed to 2021 in the 45405 annual financial report.

You must know that Baosteel merged with Wuhan Iron and Steel in 2016.

Baosteel's personnel has been so exaggeratedly reduced in the past ten years, mainly because of the company's refined management.

In the next decade or so, the streamlining of personnel will be mainly caused by the dominance of scientific and technological forces.

Huaguo is too big, and during the economic upward cycle, Baosteel's unemployment was easily digested.

The moderator asked: "So how do we deal with this problem?
The views of the two entrepreneurs are so consistent in this regard.

Let us can't help but worry about the possible unemployment wave in the future.

Especially for a country with a large population like Huaguo, the manufacturing industry accommodates so many employed people.

In the future, in the face of mass unemployment caused by technological progress, what can we do to better avoid this problem? "

Musk said bluntly: "This problem cannot be avoided.

The main thing is to guide the flow of manufacturing population to the service industry.

The gap between rich and poor worldwide will become more extreme.

The phenomenon of the strong in the manufacturing field will become more and more serious, and a large number of small and medium-sized manufacturing industries will not be able to survive.

Tesla is also facing a similar problem.

Whether it is Tesla's super factory in Shenhai or Tesla's factories in other parts of the world, the future will be a state of continuous reduction of manpower.

For corporate responsibility considerations, we will give these employees who lost their jobs the opportunity to transfer internally, but you know, there may not be many such opportunities.

Many of these employees may still face losing their jobs.

For Huaguo, what needs to be considered is to vigorously support the development of the service industry and do a good job in refined agricultural production. "

The host saw that Musk was unwilling to say more, so he threw the topic to Zheng Li: "Then Zheng Zheng, what do you think of this issue?"

Zheng Li said bluntly: "We need to improve the social welfare security system to cover the bottom line for individuals.

In the future, supplies will definitely become more and more abundant.

On the basis of sufficient materials, we will vigorously develop science and technology, and upgrade the mid-to-high-end industrial chain without giving up the low-end industrial chain.

For example, with a population of 14 billion in China, only about 13 million people need to work to support the living needs of [-] billion people.

In fact, with the development of technology, there is no need for so many people to work.

Work should be a matter for a few people. "

The peak dialogue of the day, except for the slight smell of gunpowder at the beginning, the follow-up was quite peaceful.

Perhaps it was because Musk saw the question he asked, but what Zheng Li responded to made it difficult for him to answer, so he no longer wanted to gain the upper hand verbally.

To use the current mainstream words to describe, the two are "top class" among global entrepreneurs.

The number of people watching the live broadcast around the world exceeded [-] million that day, and this topic has sparked extensive and profound discussions on major social media in Huaguo.

"I feel that both Zheng Li and Musk are extremely optimistic about the industrial Internet track."

Since the theme of this year's Wuzhen Summit is Industrial Internet, industry leaders are optimistic about the field of Industrial Internet.

Major brokerages and funds worked overtime urgently on weekends, planning to launch industrial Internet ETFs within the next half month.

The so-called financial big Vs on Douyin have helped leeks select listed companies related to the industrial Internet.

Their fans saw that these tickets had risen well in the past two years, and it was a good choice. After listening to the words of the big V, it took several years to go in and stand guard.

In Big A, a good company does not mean a high valuation, and the stock price will definitely rise.

"I rely on Musk to be worthy of Huaguotong. I know a lot about Huaguo deeper than I do. I don't even know that Huaguo has four major city circles."

"Why do I feel that Musk knows Huaguo better than Zheng Li?"

"Zheng Li's answer is not down-to-earth at all, it is because he has been at the top for a long time.

With Huaguo's approach, increasing welfare benefits is the same as constipation. How could it be possible that only [-] million people are required to work. "

"Zheng Li's idea is very good, but there is no possibility of it being implemented in the short term."

"The employment of truck drivers has indeed been greatly affected in recent years. I like to chat with drivers when I am on the road for online car-hailing. From what I have chatted with, there have been many online car-hailing drivers who have changed jobs recently. .

If it is true that the future urban travel has also achieved driverless driving, what will they do? "

"My father was a truck driver before. Fortunately, he was a truck driver in JD.com before, so he could be transferred internally, and now he has transferred to JD.com as a distribution brother.

And many of the truck driver friends he knows are far worse than him, working as security guards, delivering food, and doing housekeeping services.

This is the first time I know that American has also encountered a similar situation, and their truck drivers have mass protests and demonstrations from time to time.

I have not seen relevant reports in the domestic news media. "

In fact, Huaguo also has a similar situation, but the information cannot be spread on the Internet.

"For the future that the two top bigwigs are talking about, I feel a deep chill.

Musk is obviously extremely rational and completely self-interest-oriented, and has no overlap with the traditional concepts of self-cultivation, family harmony, state governance, and world peace in Huaguo.

What Zheng Li showed was that he had never lived at the bottom, and he didn't understand specific affairs, so he was very idealistic.

However, it is completely understandable that I received 5000 million venture capital investment before the end of my freshman year, and then founded a company with a market value of over one trillion in just over five years, and the unit is still in meters.

It's normal to be ungrounded, people have been flying in the sky.

From the perspective of technological development, the future will be run amok by oligarchy.

From the speeches of these two arguably top entrepreneurs, it can be seen that in this future, it is impossible for top entrepreneurs to empathize with ordinary people. "

It has always been said that there are individuals who betray the class, but there are no groups who betray the class.

"Aren't Zheng Li and Musk both mages? I was looking forward to this dialogue between the two, and I thought there would be a magic duel.

Before Kechuangbio’s R&D center in Lion City was stolen by Tesla employees’ business secrets, Zheng Li didn’t want to give Musk a shot at Avada?
Musk's Neuralink is the second child in the field of brain-computer connection. I feel that I can't see the hope of surpassing science and technology in my lifetime. Doesn't Musk want to give Zheng Li an Imperius Curse?
It's so boring that there are no duels between mages. "

In fact, not only he is looking forward to it, but audiences all over the world are looking forward to a magic duel between the two who have grievances.

It is also rare for two bright mages to meet in public.

In fact, the staff of the Wuzhen Summit had mentioned similar proposals. If you want to mention it, the two of you can exchange your knowledge and experience about magic on the spot.

It is also an indirect question to the two of them whether they want to stage a magic fight.

The organizers of the summit were furious at the time: "Are you crazy or am I crazy?

Let two bigwigs worth more than 2000 billion yuan perform for you in public?How big is your face?

In case of any accident, who is responsible?
Who here has the ability to take charge?

It's really not enough for a little traffic.

We are a global Internet conference, not a magic conference!

Not to mention traffic, even if everyone in the world needs to pay six yuan to watch this event, these two big guys will not agree to perform for you.

There are 75 billion people in the world, and each person costs 450 yuan, which is [-] billion RMB, which is barely a fraction of the worth of the two bigwigs.

Anyone who makes such unreliable and gimmick proposals will get the hell out of here! "

Musk's worth exceeds one trillion yuan, and Zheng Li's worth is much more than Musk's.

450 billion RMB is indeed just a fraction.

This shows how exaggerated the gap between rich and poor is.

Afterwards, none of the staff members of the organizer of the Wuzhen Summit dared to make similar proposals.

"Tonight, Ma Huateng is the host, and I want to invite everyone to dinner, will you join me?

Anyway, I eat everywhere, why not eat something good instead of in a hotel? "

After it was over, Li Miaomiao asked before returning to the bedroom.

Zheng Li nodded and said, "Okay."

Just before Zheng Li was about to go back to the room, Li Miaomiao asked: "Zheng Li, do you think the future will get better?"

"If the future industrial Internet really leads to unemployment of large-scale manufacturing employment.

Is such a future really a better future? "

Zheng Li knows that although Li Miaomiao has been in the senior management position of Kechuang Biology for many years, her concept has not changed in many cases.

In other words, Li Miaomiao is more able to look at problems from the perspective of ordinary people.

Zheng Li explained: "Yes."

"Advancement in technology will definitely make society better.

In my conversation with Musk just now, what Musk and I said on this matter was not so complete.

The popularization of the industrial Internet will bring about the loss of a large number of manufacturing jobs, and it will also create many new jobs. "

Li Miaomiao asked back: "Like the new jobs created after the Internet became popular?"

Zheng Li nodded and said, "Such as Taobao sellers, courier brothers, delivery people, online car drivers, social media traffic stars, etc."

Li Miaomiao has participated in the actual operation and management of the enterprise for so many years, and later also took supplementary courses in theoretical knowledge through the way of an on-the-job master's degree.

She quickly realized the problem in Zheng Li's point of view: "The positions you proposed are all about serving individuals.

In other words, the last information revolution mainly created the circulation of information among individuals.

Even at the enterprise management level, more of them are just superficial fields such as information storage and mechanized calculation.

In my opinion, the future industrial Internet will accelerate the flow of data before traditional manufacturing.

I think it's limited in terms of job gains. "

Zheng Li nodded and said, "None of us know what the future will hold.

But I think your guess is right.

So I also pointed out in the afternoon conversation that the social welfare system needs to be improved to ensure the basic life of the unemployed. "

(End of this chapter)