The Light of Domestic Products: The whole world begs me to sell
Chapter 217 Dragon Soaring 280J
Chapter 217 Dragon Soaring 280J
There was an immediate objection.
"Master Zhao, I admit that the performance of Phoenix's NB-Y architecture chip is indeed very strong, but their entire Huyue chip series is only a civilian product. If it is really going on an airplane, the quality and craftsmanship are completely different."
"Besides, the CPU capability of our KJ2000 is sufficient. I don't think it is necessary to take a big step and adopt less mature chips."
Before Mr. Zhao could speak, a person above the conference table suddenly stood up.
"No, Lao Li, I don't agree with your idea."
"Now it seems that Phoenix Group's NB-Y architecture is a purely domestic chip architecture with independent intellectual property rights, and everyone has seen the performance."
"The NB-Y architecture Huyue 280 chip with the same process has completely crushed our existing Phytium 1500A and Loongson 3A2000 chips, and even surpassed the X86 and ARM architectures of the same process. Such an unprecedented domestic chip architecture, We have no reason not to!"
After saying this, he looked at Mr. Zhao, and suggested in a serious tone:
"Master Zhao, I think we can not only use the Phoenix chip on the early warning 2000 for verification, but also establish in-depth cooperation with the Phoenix Group."
"Phoenix Group's '3.5D packaging technology' and NB-Y architecture have proved their advanced in the field of chips, we can completely hand over some military chip orders to Phoenix Group, let them develop special chips according to our requirements !"
"Just like Inet in the Americas, they also provide a steady stream of J-use chips according to the requirements of the J side in the Americas."
A few words made everyone fall into deep thought.
Indeed, as the professor said, in the field of chips, because of the presence of a large chip manufacturer like Inet in the Americas, the commercial results can be quickly fed back to J equipment.
Yanguo is constrained by the weakness of the chip industry, and most of the research and development of special chips has been left to the special development of its subordinate scientific research units or industrial enterprises.
Although the final developed chip can also meet the current design requirements, but because the overall chip technology is backward, many functions that require higher computing power cannot be tried.
For example, the large-scale multi-formation situational awareness in the air, the air data processing platform and other solutions cannot be realized due to stability, computing power and other reasons...
and.
There is also a very difficult problem in the military, such as the most advanced 20 series, from project approval to first flight to delivery to actual combat, the middle span is even more than ten years.
This also means that from the technological performance designed at the beginning of the project to the actual formation of combat effectiveness, the technological level has lagged behind by ten years.
If there is a company like Phoenix Group that has advanced technology and produced chips that have undergone market testing, then when the 20 series chips need to be iterated, it only needs to slightly modify the already very mature commercial chips to meet the needs of military products. will be successfully applied.
This way of commercial technology feeding back to the military is much more efficient than the way of scientific research institutes or industrial enterprises to develop a certain chip alone, and it can ensure technological innovation while greatly saving research and development costs.
Of course, only domestic companies with such technology can truly feed back their country's military industry.
For example, American Aero Engines.
Officially because America has General Electric and Pratt & Whitney, two of the world's top aero engine manufacturers who can provide excellent civil engines, they also allow them to use the best aircraft engines on F22 and F35.
"I also agree that you can try Phoenix's chip and verify it on the early warning aircraft."
"It's really no problem. Even if there is a problem in the final test, we can still use it as a technical reserve."
……
soon.
With the approval of the professor just now, the experts present also expressed their opinions after consideration.
Most of the experts present were in the attitude of agreeing to give it a try, and after everyone finished speaking, their eyes fell on Mr. Zhao.
Chief Master Zhao switched several pictures on the screen with a smile, looked at everyone and said:
"I am very much in favor of testing the Phoenix chip on the early warning aircraft."
"Although the Phoenix Group has no experience in producing military-grade chips, we can provide technical support in the packaging process. I am not worried about their ability to develop '3.5D packaging technology'."
Master Zhao showed a smile on his face, and continued:
"For a long time, our military chips have given top priority to stability, safety and anti-jamming, and the performance requirements are not so high."
"However, with the support of advanced packaging technology today, a large number of our equipment uses 28nm and 58nm. The current packaging technology has no problem with resisting low-frequency electromagnetic interference."
"Although our early warning aircraft 2000 can be used now, the development of future wars will inevitably be stronger information warfare, which puts forward very high requirements for data processing, battlefield situation awareness and even multi-formation data transmission. There will be more in the future. The data needs to be processed in real time on the early warning aircraft."
"even……"
Master Zhao paused for a moment, then pressed the button in his hand, and a new picture was switched on the LED screen again.
"According to our estimation of future wars, even in the future on the J20, airborne information processing will be realized, so that the J20 will become a small and medium-sized aerial network information platform processing center, and it will no longer need to transmit data to the ground as it is now. After being processed by the ground command center, the next order will be issued."
"Now our 20 formations can realize formation situation awareness and data platform transmission, and can even connect and control four drones to form a formation, but these will definitely not be enough in the future."
"Our vision is that in the future, we will not only realize the J20's control of a large number of drones, but also allow the J20 to realize information sharing and formation information processing across the platform. It can replace the early warning aircraft and become the command post in the air behind enemy lines."
"In the future, drones can even be used to detect the enemy's rear, and then transmit the data to the J20 for image analysis and processing. Finally, the J20 guides the J16 to carry out precise bombing. Fire support!"
"And all this!"
"They all need powerful chip computing capabilities on the 20, otherwise what I said can only be transmitted back to the ground base through their own, and once there is a signal interruption or strong interference, it is easy to delay the fighter."
Seeing everyone nodding frequently, Master Zhao changed the topic to the Phoenix chip again.
"So, to make the J20 have such a powerful computing power, the chip is naturally the top priority. There is no such a large space for an early warning aircraft on the J20, so the chip size is also required."
"At present, I am most optimistic about the chips of Phoenix Group that can meet the performance requirements and control the size."
"Although the Phoenix Group has no experience in military products, we have taken it step by step and verified it from the early warning aircraft. I believe the result will always be good."
At the end, Master Zhao also laughed:
"The equity of Phoenix Group is very clean, without any problems!"
"Their CEO Hu came to us to investigate the background, and there is no problem!"
After Master Zhao's words were finished, it was almost a final decision.
All the people present are practitioners in the chip industry, and they are also top talents in the aviation industry in Yanguo. They all agree with Mr. Zhao's step-by-step plan.
Seeing that there were no voices of objection, Master Zhao was not polite.
"Then it's settled like this, and then I will arrange for someone to contact the Phoenix Group."
……
a few days later.
There was nothing unusual, and he didn't receive any notice. Hu Lai came to the office early that day. As soon as he sat down on his buttocks, Director Zhang hurried in.
As soon as Hu Lai raised his head, he heard the voice of Director Zhang.
"Boss, someone from above is here and wants to see you..."
Hu Lai was stunned.
"above……?"
He immediately remembered the last time he was approached by the higher authorities because of the MQ1 polymer material. Last time it was from the Import and Export Control Bureau. This time?
However, although he was a little surprised, Hu Lai had seen too many things at this time, and his mind was much calmer. After a little surprise, his face returned to normal.
Director Zhang deliberately lowered his voice and said:
"Boss, I heard from them that it is a research institute under Fang J. I guess it is for chips."
Hu Lai thought for a while, but he was relieved. It is not surprising that a new NB-Y architecture chip has attracted the attention of the country.
"Old Zhang, you arrange for them to go to the living room first, and I will come later."
……
Out of politeness, Director Zhang went to make arrangements. After Hu Lai sorted out his clothes, he came to the living room.
The door was pushed open, and Hu Lai saw two people sitting on the sofa in the living room at a glance.
On the left is a young man with a suit and leather collar, and the other is slightly older in ordinary clothes. Hu Lai rushed to meet him.
"Hi, I'm Hu Lai, the person in charge of the Phoenix Group."
"Hello, Mr. Hu."
The two were also very polite. Seeing Hu Lai approaching, they quickly stood up and shook hands.
After a brief exchange of pleasantries, the two began to report their families.
"We are the 965 Research Institute of Yanguo Aviation Industry Development. Our institute is mainly researching the network information and data processing of aircraft. I am Bai Chu, and this is Mr. Liu."
Hu Lai was slightly shocked.
A research institute under Yanguo Aviation Industry?
This is an absolute J background enterprise.
You must know that Yanguo Aviation Industry's subsidiaries are all big cows.
The aviation industry's industries cover J aircraft and engines, guided weapons, military gas turbines, weapons and equipment supporting systems, etc...
Among them, Cheng Fei and Shen Fei are the most famous.
Seeing a flash of shock on Hu Lai's face, Bai Chu said with a smile.
"Mr. Hu, you don't need to be too nervous."
"We are here today mainly to talk to you about your company's chips under the NB-Y architecture."
"I'm not going around the bush. We want your company to produce a 28nm chip for J according to our requirements."
Ok?
Hearing Baichu's request, Hu Lai was not surprised. It is normal for the NB-Y structure to be noticed by the state.
but.
He also has doubts in his heart. He has always been in contact with civilian-level chips, and he really doesn't know much about J-level chips.
Bai Chu seemed to see Hu Lai's doubts, and explained:
"We will provide you with the required chip performance data and requirements. Simply put, the biggest difference between civilian products and military products is not in performance, but in stability, safety and anti-jamming radiation."
"Our J-level chip has very high requirements on stability, and we must also take into account electromagnetic interference. If your packaging process cannot meet the J-level process for the time being, we can also provide technical support."
"Or, you can design the chip drawings and we can find a special foundry to package them."
"Technical Support?!"
Seeing Bai Chu nodded, Hu Lai felt relieved.
He knew the level of the chip very clearly when he was in the car chip.
Generally speaking, the least demanding quality and stability is the consumer grade, which is mostly used in mobile phones and computers. If there is a problem with the chip of these electronic products, it is nothing more than a crash and restart.
Next is industrial grade, vehicle grade, military grade/aerospace grade.
Aerospace grade even requires radiation resistance.
Since Bai Chu offered to provide technical support, it shouldn't be a big problem.
When the two of them said this, Master Liu next to Baichu took the words:
"Mr. Hu, since there is no problem, let me briefly talk about the CPU performance we want."
"In terms of performance, our requirements only need to be similar to your existing Huyue 280 chip."
"However, we don't need such a high GPU floating-point computing power, we prefer the comprehensive computing power of the CPU, so this needs to be improved..."
As he spoke, Lao Liu handed Hu Lai a simple document.
Hu Lai took a simple look and immediately relaxed.
The performance of the chips provided by Mr. Liu is not high, and there is no need to redesign the chip drawings. It only needs to modify and reduce the IC units on the original chip design drawings.
However, although the performance is not high, the stability requirements are too high.
-
The normal operating range of 60 degrees to 200 degrees, the failure rate of one in ten million, and the normal and stable operation under high speed and high pressure have clear requirements.
Hu Lai was stunned, the quality of the J-chips was so high, how strict the quality of the aerospace-grade chips used in the outer space would be!
Although it was far away, at this moment Hu Lai felt a little yearning in his heart.
"Okay! We are willing to try. If we can contribute to the national defense, it will be a great honor!"
Hu Lai's very straightforward answer stunned the two of them.
Mr. Hu agreed without even discussing the price of the order.
Hu Lai was refreshed, and soon the few people finalized the cooperation content.
Of course, Hu Lai didn't say anything to death, he could only say that he would use his best ability to do this, and whether he could meet Party J's requirements in the end would not be known until the finished product was manufactured!
"Then, Mr. Hu, happy cooperation!"
……
After bidding farewell to Bai Chu and Liu Shi, Hu Lai had no time to feel that Phoenix was selected by Party J without knowing it, and immediately asked Factory Director Zhang to bring the chip performance required by 965 to a meeting for all Phoenix Semiconductor executives and technical backbones.
Soon, the results of the discussions among the technical backbones came out.
Because Phoenix Group has all the design drawings of the complete Huyue 280 chip, if only simple changes are made on the original basis, then there is no problem.
After receiving an affirmative reply, Hu Lai immediately arranged for Phoenix Semiconductor to set up a special department to cooperate with experts from the 965 Institute to change the Huyue 280 chip.
At the same time, the model of Phoenix's first J chip has also been finalized - Longteng 280J.
However, within a few days, a major news completely disrupted the design plan of the Longteng 280J chip...
……
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Carbon-based life greatly 100 coins
End of the World 100 coins reward!
(End of this chapter)
There was an immediate objection.
"Master Zhao, I admit that the performance of Phoenix's NB-Y architecture chip is indeed very strong, but their entire Huyue chip series is only a civilian product. If it is really going on an airplane, the quality and craftsmanship are completely different."
"Besides, the CPU capability of our KJ2000 is sufficient. I don't think it is necessary to take a big step and adopt less mature chips."
Before Mr. Zhao could speak, a person above the conference table suddenly stood up.
"No, Lao Li, I don't agree with your idea."
"Now it seems that Phoenix Group's NB-Y architecture is a purely domestic chip architecture with independent intellectual property rights, and everyone has seen the performance."
"The NB-Y architecture Huyue 280 chip with the same process has completely crushed our existing Phytium 1500A and Loongson 3A2000 chips, and even surpassed the X86 and ARM architectures of the same process. Such an unprecedented domestic chip architecture, We have no reason not to!"
After saying this, he looked at Mr. Zhao, and suggested in a serious tone:
"Master Zhao, I think we can not only use the Phoenix chip on the early warning 2000 for verification, but also establish in-depth cooperation with the Phoenix Group."
"Phoenix Group's '3.5D packaging technology' and NB-Y architecture have proved their advanced in the field of chips, we can completely hand over some military chip orders to Phoenix Group, let them develop special chips according to our requirements !"
"Just like Inet in the Americas, they also provide a steady stream of J-use chips according to the requirements of the J side in the Americas."
A few words made everyone fall into deep thought.
Indeed, as the professor said, in the field of chips, because of the presence of a large chip manufacturer like Inet in the Americas, the commercial results can be quickly fed back to J equipment.
Yanguo is constrained by the weakness of the chip industry, and most of the research and development of special chips has been left to the special development of its subordinate scientific research units or industrial enterprises.
Although the final developed chip can also meet the current design requirements, but because the overall chip technology is backward, many functions that require higher computing power cannot be tried.
For example, the large-scale multi-formation situational awareness in the air, the air data processing platform and other solutions cannot be realized due to stability, computing power and other reasons...
and.
There is also a very difficult problem in the military, such as the most advanced 20 series, from project approval to first flight to delivery to actual combat, the middle span is even more than ten years.
This also means that from the technological performance designed at the beginning of the project to the actual formation of combat effectiveness, the technological level has lagged behind by ten years.
If there is a company like Phoenix Group that has advanced technology and produced chips that have undergone market testing, then when the 20 series chips need to be iterated, it only needs to slightly modify the already very mature commercial chips to meet the needs of military products. will be successfully applied.
This way of commercial technology feeding back to the military is much more efficient than the way of scientific research institutes or industrial enterprises to develop a certain chip alone, and it can ensure technological innovation while greatly saving research and development costs.
Of course, only domestic companies with such technology can truly feed back their country's military industry.
For example, American Aero Engines.
Officially because America has General Electric and Pratt & Whitney, two of the world's top aero engine manufacturers who can provide excellent civil engines, they also allow them to use the best aircraft engines on F22 and F35.
"I also agree that you can try Phoenix's chip and verify it on the early warning aircraft."
"It's really no problem. Even if there is a problem in the final test, we can still use it as a technical reserve."
……
soon.
With the approval of the professor just now, the experts present also expressed their opinions after consideration.
Most of the experts present were in the attitude of agreeing to give it a try, and after everyone finished speaking, their eyes fell on Mr. Zhao.
Chief Master Zhao switched several pictures on the screen with a smile, looked at everyone and said:
"I am very much in favor of testing the Phoenix chip on the early warning aircraft."
"Although the Phoenix Group has no experience in producing military-grade chips, we can provide technical support in the packaging process. I am not worried about their ability to develop '3.5D packaging technology'."
Master Zhao showed a smile on his face, and continued:
"For a long time, our military chips have given top priority to stability, safety and anti-jamming, and the performance requirements are not so high."
"However, with the support of advanced packaging technology today, a large number of our equipment uses 28nm and 58nm. The current packaging technology has no problem with resisting low-frequency electromagnetic interference."
"Although our early warning aircraft 2000 can be used now, the development of future wars will inevitably be stronger information warfare, which puts forward very high requirements for data processing, battlefield situation awareness and even multi-formation data transmission. There will be more in the future. The data needs to be processed in real time on the early warning aircraft."
"even……"
Master Zhao paused for a moment, then pressed the button in his hand, and a new picture was switched on the LED screen again.
"According to our estimation of future wars, even in the future on the J20, airborne information processing will be realized, so that the J20 will become a small and medium-sized aerial network information platform processing center, and it will no longer need to transmit data to the ground as it is now. After being processed by the ground command center, the next order will be issued."
"Now our 20 formations can realize formation situation awareness and data platform transmission, and can even connect and control four drones to form a formation, but these will definitely not be enough in the future."
"Our vision is that in the future, we will not only realize the J20's control of a large number of drones, but also allow the J20 to realize information sharing and formation information processing across the platform. It can replace the early warning aircraft and become the command post in the air behind enemy lines."
"In the future, drones can even be used to detect the enemy's rear, and then transmit the data to the J20 for image analysis and processing. Finally, the J20 guides the J16 to carry out precise bombing. Fire support!"
"And all this!"
"They all need powerful chip computing capabilities on the 20, otherwise what I said can only be transmitted back to the ground base through their own, and once there is a signal interruption or strong interference, it is easy to delay the fighter."
Seeing everyone nodding frequently, Master Zhao changed the topic to the Phoenix chip again.
"So, to make the J20 have such a powerful computing power, the chip is naturally the top priority. There is no such a large space for an early warning aircraft on the J20, so the chip size is also required."
"At present, I am most optimistic about the chips of Phoenix Group that can meet the performance requirements and control the size."
"Although the Phoenix Group has no experience in military products, we have taken it step by step and verified it from the early warning aircraft. I believe the result will always be good."
At the end, Master Zhao also laughed:
"The equity of Phoenix Group is very clean, without any problems!"
"Their CEO Hu came to us to investigate the background, and there is no problem!"
After Master Zhao's words were finished, it was almost a final decision.
All the people present are practitioners in the chip industry, and they are also top talents in the aviation industry in Yanguo. They all agree with Mr. Zhao's step-by-step plan.
Seeing that there were no voices of objection, Master Zhao was not polite.
"Then it's settled like this, and then I will arrange for someone to contact the Phoenix Group."
……
a few days later.
There was nothing unusual, and he didn't receive any notice. Hu Lai came to the office early that day. As soon as he sat down on his buttocks, Director Zhang hurried in.
As soon as Hu Lai raised his head, he heard the voice of Director Zhang.
"Boss, someone from above is here and wants to see you..."
Hu Lai was stunned.
"above……?"
He immediately remembered the last time he was approached by the higher authorities because of the MQ1 polymer material. Last time it was from the Import and Export Control Bureau. This time?
However, although he was a little surprised, Hu Lai had seen too many things at this time, and his mind was much calmer. After a little surprise, his face returned to normal.
Director Zhang deliberately lowered his voice and said:
"Boss, I heard from them that it is a research institute under Fang J. I guess it is for chips."
Hu Lai thought for a while, but he was relieved. It is not surprising that a new NB-Y architecture chip has attracted the attention of the country.
"Old Zhang, you arrange for them to go to the living room first, and I will come later."
……
Out of politeness, Director Zhang went to make arrangements. After Hu Lai sorted out his clothes, he came to the living room.
The door was pushed open, and Hu Lai saw two people sitting on the sofa in the living room at a glance.
On the left is a young man with a suit and leather collar, and the other is slightly older in ordinary clothes. Hu Lai rushed to meet him.
"Hi, I'm Hu Lai, the person in charge of the Phoenix Group."
"Hello, Mr. Hu."
The two were also very polite. Seeing Hu Lai approaching, they quickly stood up and shook hands.
After a brief exchange of pleasantries, the two began to report their families.
"We are the 965 Research Institute of Yanguo Aviation Industry Development. Our institute is mainly researching the network information and data processing of aircraft. I am Bai Chu, and this is Mr. Liu."
Hu Lai was slightly shocked.
A research institute under Yanguo Aviation Industry?
This is an absolute J background enterprise.
You must know that Yanguo Aviation Industry's subsidiaries are all big cows.
The aviation industry's industries cover J aircraft and engines, guided weapons, military gas turbines, weapons and equipment supporting systems, etc...
Among them, Cheng Fei and Shen Fei are the most famous.
Seeing a flash of shock on Hu Lai's face, Bai Chu said with a smile.
"Mr. Hu, you don't need to be too nervous."
"We are here today mainly to talk to you about your company's chips under the NB-Y architecture."
"I'm not going around the bush. We want your company to produce a 28nm chip for J according to our requirements."
Ok?
Hearing Baichu's request, Hu Lai was not surprised. It is normal for the NB-Y structure to be noticed by the state.
but.
He also has doubts in his heart. He has always been in contact with civilian-level chips, and he really doesn't know much about J-level chips.
Bai Chu seemed to see Hu Lai's doubts, and explained:
"We will provide you with the required chip performance data and requirements. Simply put, the biggest difference between civilian products and military products is not in performance, but in stability, safety and anti-jamming radiation."
"Our J-level chip has very high requirements on stability, and we must also take into account electromagnetic interference. If your packaging process cannot meet the J-level process for the time being, we can also provide technical support."
"Or, you can design the chip drawings and we can find a special foundry to package them."
"Technical Support?!"
Seeing Bai Chu nodded, Hu Lai felt relieved.
He knew the level of the chip very clearly when he was in the car chip.
Generally speaking, the least demanding quality and stability is the consumer grade, which is mostly used in mobile phones and computers. If there is a problem with the chip of these electronic products, it is nothing more than a crash and restart.
Next is industrial grade, vehicle grade, military grade/aerospace grade.
Aerospace grade even requires radiation resistance.
Since Bai Chu offered to provide technical support, it shouldn't be a big problem.
When the two of them said this, Master Liu next to Baichu took the words:
"Mr. Hu, since there is no problem, let me briefly talk about the CPU performance we want."
"In terms of performance, our requirements only need to be similar to your existing Huyue 280 chip."
"However, we don't need such a high GPU floating-point computing power, we prefer the comprehensive computing power of the CPU, so this needs to be improved..."
As he spoke, Lao Liu handed Hu Lai a simple document.
Hu Lai took a simple look and immediately relaxed.
The performance of the chips provided by Mr. Liu is not high, and there is no need to redesign the chip drawings. It only needs to modify and reduce the IC units on the original chip design drawings.
However, although the performance is not high, the stability requirements are too high.
-
The normal operating range of 60 degrees to 200 degrees, the failure rate of one in ten million, and the normal and stable operation under high speed and high pressure have clear requirements.
Hu Lai was stunned, the quality of the J-chips was so high, how strict the quality of the aerospace-grade chips used in the outer space would be!
Although it was far away, at this moment Hu Lai felt a little yearning in his heart.
"Okay! We are willing to try. If we can contribute to the national defense, it will be a great honor!"
Hu Lai's very straightforward answer stunned the two of them.
Mr. Hu agreed without even discussing the price of the order.
Hu Lai was refreshed, and soon the few people finalized the cooperation content.
Of course, Hu Lai didn't say anything to death, he could only say that he would use his best ability to do this, and whether he could meet Party J's requirements in the end would not be known until the finished product was manufactured!
"Then, Mr. Hu, happy cooperation!"
……
After bidding farewell to Bai Chu and Liu Shi, Hu Lai had no time to feel that Phoenix was selected by Party J without knowing it, and immediately asked Factory Director Zhang to bring the chip performance required by 965 to a meeting for all Phoenix Semiconductor executives and technical backbones.
Soon, the results of the discussions among the technical backbones came out.
Because Phoenix Group has all the design drawings of the complete Huyue 280 chip, if only simple changes are made on the original basis, then there is no problem.
After receiving an affirmative reply, Hu Lai immediately arranged for Phoenix Semiconductor to set up a special department to cooperate with experts from the 965 Institute to change the Huyue 280 chip.
At the same time, the model of Phoenix's first J chip has also been finalized - Longteng 280J.
However, within a few days, a major news completely disrupted the design plan of the Longteng 280J chip...
……
PS: Thank you I am a leopard only greatly 500 coins
Carbon-based life greatly 100 coins
End of the World 100 coins reward!
(End of this chapter)
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