Rebirth starts with small money
Chapter 396 Ma Xiaoyun Standing on the Shoulders of a "Giant"
"What? Free?"
Chen Li looked at Ma Xiaoyun diagonally across from him in shock, and almost dropped the wine glass in his hand.
Don't blame him for being excited, the main thing Ma Xiaoyun said was that the meal was free, but that this guy was going to make the red pony security guards free.
To be honest~ Chen Li would not be surprised if it was his previous life, because in his previous life, Zhou Hongyi won the domestic security software market by relying on security guards and free antivirus software.
But when the time period for saying this was put into the present, the person who said this had changed from Zhou Hongyi to Ma Xiaoyun, which made Chen Li's jaw drop in shock.
You know~ the reason why Zhou Hongyi was free in the previous life was because he had to do it!
At that time, the domestic Internet security industry market had basically been divided up by several security software companies.
At that time, Zhou Hongyi wanted to break into the security market, and it was impossible to open the market without some heavy medicine and no blood.
But what year is it now?Now it is only [-], which is the era when security software is very popular.
You must know that at this time, the price of a set of anti-virus software can reach hundreds of dollars.
And as the domestic PC business gradually improves, the market share will also increase accordingly.
The bigger the market ~ the more benefits the security software market will have.
As far as the performance of the Red Pony Security Guard improved by the system is concerned, not to mention that it is more expensive than others, as long as it is sold at the same price as other companies, then who will the customer choose? There is no need to think about it at all, okay?
At this time, Ma Xiaoyun suddenly jumped out and said that he would let the security guards be free.
Chen Li looked at Ma Xiaoyun who was diagonally opposite, and his expression became serious.
"Cough~uh~ Chen Li, it's like this!"
"As you know, the performance of our security guards is very good."
"But... those users don't know!"
"If there is a fee, it is estimated that many users will not choose to use our red pony products."
"We thought about whether we should fight a price war with other competitors."
"But later~ Mr. Zhou and I both felt that it was unreliable."
"Because we lowered the price ~ other competitors are bound to follow suit, because if they don't lower their prices, they can only wait to die."
"In this case ~ it is easy to form vicious competition."
"so."
The expression on Ma Xiaoyun's face was a bit awkward, he knew very well that it was difficult for Chen Li to affirm his decision.
Sure enough, he was interrupted by Chen Li before he finished speaking.
"So it's free~ won't there be vicious competition?"
Chen Li looked at Ma Xiaoyun expressionlessly, because at this moment a thought came to Chen Li's mind that made him a little annoyed.
Ma Xiaoyun. This is cutting off his money.
You should know~ This "Red Pony Safety Guard" was handed over to Red Pony Technology Co., Ltd. by Chen Li in the name of the "team" behind it.
Although the original purpose~ was just to deal with the original Internet war.
But later Ma Xiaoyun said that the security guard would be put into commercial operation, so Chen Li followed the other party's arrangement and handed over the security guard to the red pony.
Because the security guard given by Chen Li is already a mature security software, which saves Red Pony a lot of research and development funds and time.
That's all for money~ But time is such a thing. Then it's hard to say.
Not to mention that the performance of the security guard is considered top-level in the industry, and the advantages this brings to the red pony are simply infinite.
It is precisely because of the maturity of this product that Chen Li had an agreement with Ma Xiaoyun from the very beginning.
Chen Li will take [-]% of the direct income of "Red Pony Safety Guard", which is Chen Li is responsible for the "team" behind it.
Ma Xiaoyun agreed very happily at that time~ because he also knew very well that Chen Li and his team deserved the direct benefits brought by this software.
Not to mention [-]%, even if Chen Li took all of it, Ma Xiaoyun would think it was worth it.
The reason is simple. The indirect benefits brought by this mature product are actually far greater than the direct benefits.
You can make a lot of money by simply selling security guards, but this product was originally developed by Chen Li's team.
However, if Red Pony can make reasonable use of this product, it will directly allow Red Pony Technology Co., Ltd. to gain a firm foothold in the Internet security industry.
Yes~ As a half insider, Ma Xiaoyun now has enough understanding of the Internet security industry.
In addition, there is Zhou Hongyi beside him, so Ma Xiaoyun is very aware of how much impact this product can have on the current Internet security industry.
It can be said that this is enough opportunity for the red pony to become the overlord of the Internet security industry!
Compared with this opportunity~ the direct benefits generated by security guards can only be regarded as small.
Ma Xiaoyun even made a plan to enter the Internet security industry with this security guard, then develop other peripheral supporting software, and raise funds at the same time~finally achieve the goal of listing.
Once the red pony is successfully listed, the direct benefits generated by the security guards are not worth mentioning at all.
As far as Chen Li is concerned~ he is not a fool either.
He is also very clear that he chooses to only take [-]% of the direct interest. In fact, it is not a very cost-effective deal.
But Chen Li didn't care!
Although at the beginning, Ma Xiaoyun planned to let the team behind Chen Li use the software "Red Pony Security Guard" as a technology stake, Ma Xiaoyun was even willing to allocate 10% of his own shares.
In terms of value~ the direct benefits generated by the security guards cannot be compared with the 10% shares of the red pony.
After all, direct benefits can be regarded as a one-shot deal, but shares are held for a long time.
Moreover, Chen Liben already owns 20% of the shares of Red Pony, adding this 10% will make it 30%.
However~ this proposal was still rejected by Chen Li.
As for the shares of Red Pony, Chen Li was not willing to take more shares, otherwise, as early as when the company was established, Chen Li would have the opportunity to get 50% of the shares of Red Pony with him and the team behind it.
But Chen Li is very clear~ he doesn't have that much energy!For the Internet, he prefers to only invest~not work!
So at that time, Chen Li directly chose to refuse Ma Xiaoyun and Zhou Hongyi's proposal to bring him and the "team" behind him into trouble.
50% of the shares is good~ but the "team" behind Chen Li needs to get involved.
But that team didn't exist at all, so in the end Chen Li only chose to take 20%.
That's why Chen Li has a lot of shares in the original Guofeng Software, which is Zhou Hongyi's 3721.
If there is no such part of the shares, Chen Li may end up with even fewer shares.
The advantage of doing this is that Chen Li picked out himself and the "team" behind him.
Even if the red pony encountered any troubles in the future, it would be Ma Xiaoyun, Zhou Hongyi and Chen Li's own problems.
But Chen Li had agreed from the very beginning that he would not participate in the operation of the company, and would only take shares.
So in fact, Chen Li picked himself very "clean"!
Of course~ the reason for putting quotation marks is because this cleanliness is only relative.
Because if the red pony really needs help, Chen Li is unlikely to ignore it.It's just that by picking it up like this, Chen Li can save a lot of troubles about the team behind him.
So in the end~ Chen Li and Ma Xiaoyun reached an agreement, and the team behind him chose to take [-]% of the direct benefits.
But here comes the problem~ Now Ma Xiaoyun suddenly told Chen Li that he was going to launch the security guard in a free mode.
Since it is free, security guards naturally cannot generate direct benefits.
What's the matter with this?
As for what Ma Xiaoyun said about worrying about causing vicious competition, it is pure nonsense, because it is free. In fact, it will cause vicious competition.
Do you want to?Everyone charges a fee, it is nothing more than who earns more and who earns less.
But when a red pony pops up suddenly to do something for free, it's not a question of earning more or less, but a question of cutting people's wealth and destroying their families.
That's it~ Ma Xiaoyun still told himself that it was to avoid vicious competition?Chen Li really wanted to spit on Ma Xiaoyun's face.
"Mr. Chen~ Wait until I finish speaking!"
Ma Xiaoyun was also a little depressed. He was interrupted by Chen Li when he was talking about the crucial moment.
It is indeed easy to misunderstand people at this point, so Ma Xiaoyun quickly waved his hand and continued:
"Of course I know that free operation is definitely more cruel than vicious competition."
"But... I just want to make this industry a little bit more brutal."
"Mr. Chen may not know much about it. The current Internet security industry in China seems to me to be a stagnant pool."
"Take anti-virus software as an example. In fact, many people are aware of the tricks created by those security software companies."
"People seem to be used to creating problems, then solving them, and making money from it."
"But in this way, these companies have caused these companies to focus on how to make profits."
"So look at the anti-virus software in our country. In the past few years~ basically there has been no progress."
Ma Xiaoyun began to talk eloquently, but Chen Li, who was diagonally across from him, was a little speechless, and even had no big words.
The reason why Ma Xiaoyun, a newcomer in the Internet security industry, dares to say this is not that the domestic security software companies are really as bad as he said, but because this guy is standing on the shoulders of giants.
And this giant is naturally Chen Li and the team behind him, to be precise, it is the "Red Pony Safety Guard" that Chen Li produced.
From Ma Xiaoyun's point of view, domestic security software companies are all idlers, they only know about infighting and making money every day, and have no intention of doing research and development at all.
Otherwise~ this group of guys who should have been in the regular army wouldn't be compared to the security guards that Chen Li's team created.
Yes~ Now that he is ready to eat Internet security, Ma Xiaoyun has naturally done a lot of research on this industry.
He is not a professional technician, but there are such people around him.
Zhou Hongyi made a comparison between "Red Pony Security Guard" and all security software on the market. In terms of active defense and virus detection, the performance of Security Guard is enough to kill all security software currently on the market.
Especially in the area of active defense, almost all security software currently on the market does not even have this function at all.
This is actually the core of what the red pony will use as the focus of publicity!
But at the same time~ this is also the point that offends people the most!
The reason for Red Pony’s financing is not that Red Pony Technology is short of money. You must know that Ma Xiaoyun spent 500 million US dollars at the beginning of its establishment, and Red Pony has not yet spent any major expenditures, so this money has not been spent at all. How many.
The biggest reason for financing is to find a capital to deal with other problems that may arise in the future due to offending people.
No way~ Because of the excellent security guards, it is bound to be "countered back" by other companies.
So ~ this is also the reason why Ma Xiaoyun chose to accept capital entry without lack of money.
The performance of the security guard is so good. Is there really no disadvantage?of course not!
The biggest shortcoming of Security Guard is that its means of killing viruses is very limited.
Yes~Although Security Guard is perfect in active defense and virus detection, basically all viruses currently on the market cannot escape the surveillance of Security Guard.
But defense and discovery alone cannot eliminate viruses.
In fact, this was originally a foreshadowing planted by Chen Li, because he knew very well that the cooperation of security guards and anti-virus software can actually form a system.
The reason why Chen Li took out security guards at that time was because during the Internet war, only security guards were needed for defense.
After the incident, Chen Li originally planned to exchange for 350 anti-virus software from the system at the right time.
But in the end~ He didn't mention it here, but Zhou Hongyi was inspired by the research on security guards, and then plunged into the research and development room to start the development of anti-virus software supporting security guards.
Although the anti-virus software developed by Zhou Hongyi, it is definitely impossible to compare with Xiaomeng's modified anti-virus software.
But because of the inspiration from the security guards, the performance of the antivirus software developed by Zhou Hongyi will definitely not be inferior to other software currently on the market.
After all, this should have been something that would have appeared several years later. After being advanced for so many years, it is normal to be ahead.
Coupled with the existence of security guards, this can be said to be at the top of the domestic Internet security industry in [-].
It is also because of this reason that Ma Xiaoyun is a little bit of a drifter!
Yes~ Ma Xiaoyun is really floating!This guy even thinks that other domestic security software companies are all idiots.
".!"
"So ~ after we discussed!"
"A conclusion has been reached!"
"Actually, whether it's taking the price route or talking about the product, the entry of our red pony itself is a huge threat to other companies."
"It's a matter of time to tear the face anyway. If this is the case, why didn't we just tear the face at the beginning?"
"At the very least~ we must drive them forward and let them run after us."
When he said this, Ma Xiaoyun smiled, a little creepy!
But immediately, Ma Xiaoyun realized that he seemed to have drifted away, so he brought the topic back.
"As for... this matter may cause losses to Mr. Chen and your team."
"We think so!"
"The company will take out 100 million US dollars as compensation!"
"Also~Although the security guard is free. But our anti-virus software is not free."
"This part of the benefits~ is still distributed according to the way we agreed before."
"Mr. Chen~ What do you think?"
Chen Li looked at Ma Xiaoyun diagonally across from him in shock, and almost dropped the wine glass in his hand.
Don't blame him for being excited, the main thing Ma Xiaoyun said was that the meal was free, but that this guy was going to make the red pony security guards free.
To be honest~ Chen Li would not be surprised if it was his previous life, because in his previous life, Zhou Hongyi won the domestic security software market by relying on security guards and free antivirus software.
But when the time period for saying this was put into the present, the person who said this had changed from Zhou Hongyi to Ma Xiaoyun, which made Chen Li's jaw drop in shock.
You know~ the reason why Zhou Hongyi was free in the previous life was because he had to do it!
At that time, the domestic Internet security industry market had basically been divided up by several security software companies.
At that time, Zhou Hongyi wanted to break into the security market, and it was impossible to open the market without some heavy medicine and no blood.
But what year is it now?Now it is only [-], which is the era when security software is very popular.
You must know that at this time, the price of a set of anti-virus software can reach hundreds of dollars.
And as the domestic PC business gradually improves, the market share will also increase accordingly.
The bigger the market ~ the more benefits the security software market will have.
As far as the performance of the Red Pony Security Guard improved by the system is concerned, not to mention that it is more expensive than others, as long as it is sold at the same price as other companies, then who will the customer choose? There is no need to think about it at all, okay?
At this time, Ma Xiaoyun suddenly jumped out and said that he would let the security guards be free.
Chen Li looked at Ma Xiaoyun who was diagonally opposite, and his expression became serious.
"Cough~uh~ Chen Li, it's like this!"
"As you know, the performance of our security guards is very good."
"But... those users don't know!"
"If there is a fee, it is estimated that many users will not choose to use our red pony products."
"We thought about whether we should fight a price war with other competitors."
"But later~ Mr. Zhou and I both felt that it was unreliable."
"Because we lowered the price ~ other competitors are bound to follow suit, because if they don't lower their prices, they can only wait to die."
"In this case ~ it is easy to form vicious competition."
"so."
The expression on Ma Xiaoyun's face was a bit awkward, he knew very well that it was difficult for Chen Li to affirm his decision.
Sure enough, he was interrupted by Chen Li before he finished speaking.
"So it's free~ won't there be vicious competition?"
Chen Li looked at Ma Xiaoyun expressionlessly, because at this moment a thought came to Chen Li's mind that made him a little annoyed.
Ma Xiaoyun. This is cutting off his money.
You should know~ This "Red Pony Safety Guard" was handed over to Red Pony Technology Co., Ltd. by Chen Li in the name of the "team" behind it.
Although the original purpose~ was just to deal with the original Internet war.
But later Ma Xiaoyun said that the security guard would be put into commercial operation, so Chen Li followed the other party's arrangement and handed over the security guard to the red pony.
Because the security guard given by Chen Li is already a mature security software, which saves Red Pony a lot of research and development funds and time.
That's all for money~ But time is such a thing. Then it's hard to say.
Not to mention that the performance of the security guard is considered top-level in the industry, and the advantages this brings to the red pony are simply infinite.
It is precisely because of the maturity of this product that Chen Li had an agreement with Ma Xiaoyun from the very beginning.
Chen Li will take [-]% of the direct income of "Red Pony Safety Guard", which is Chen Li is responsible for the "team" behind it.
Ma Xiaoyun agreed very happily at that time~ because he also knew very well that Chen Li and his team deserved the direct benefits brought by this software.
Not to mention [-]%, even if Chen Li took all of it, Ma Xiaoyun would think it was worth it.
The reason is simple. The indirect benefits brought by this mature product are actually far greater than the direct benefits.
You can make a lot of money by simply selling security guards, but this product was originally developed by Chen Li's team.
However, if Red Pony can make reasonable use of this product, it will directly allow Red Pony Technology Co., Ltd. to gain a firm foothold in the Internet security industry.
Yes~ As a half insider, Ma Xiaoyun now has enough understanding of the Internet security industry.
In addition, there is Zhou Hongyi beside him, so Ma Xiaoyun is very aware of how much impact this product can have on the current Internet security industry.
It can be said that this is enough opportunity for the red pony to become the overlord of the Internet security industry!
Compared with this opportunity~ the direct benefits generated by security guards can only be regarded as small.
Ma Xiaoyun even made a plan to enter the Internet security industry with this security guard, then develop other peripheral supporting software, and raise funds at the same time~finally achieve the goal of listing.
Once the red pony is successfully listed, the direct benefits generated by the security guards are not worth mentioning at all.
As far as Chen Li is concerned~ he is not a fool either.
He is also very clear that he chooses to only take [-]% of the direct interest. In fact, it is not a very cost-effective deal.
But Chen Li didn't care!
Although at the beginning, Ma Xiaoyun planned to let the team behind Chen Li use the software "Red Pony Security Guard" as a technology stake, Ma Xiaoyun was even willing to allocate 10% of his own shares.
In terms of value~ the direct benefits generated by the security guards cannot be compared with the 10% shares of the red pony.
After all, direct benefits can be regarded as a one-shot deal, but shares are held for a long time.
Moreover, Chen Liben already owns 20% of the shares of Red Pony, adding this 10% will make it 30%.
However~ this proposal was still rejected by Chen Li.
As for the shares of Red Pony, Chen Li was not willing to take more shares, otherwise, as early as when the company was established, Chen Li would have the opportunity to get 50% of the shares of Red Pony with him and the team behind it.
But Chen Li is very clear~ he doesn't have that much energy!For the Internet, he prefers to only invest~not work!
So at that time, Chen Li directly chose to refuse Ma Xiaoyun and Zhou Hongyi's proposal to bring him and the "team" behind him into trouble.
50% of the shares is good~ but the "team" behind Chen Li needs to get involved.
But that team didn't exist at all, so in the end Chen Li only chose to take 20%.
That's why Chen Li has a lot of shares in the original Guofeng Software, which is Zhou Hongyi's 3721.
If there is no such part of the shares, Chen Li may end up with even fewer shares.
The advantage of doing this is that Chen Li picked out himself and the "team" behind him.
Even if the red pony encountered any troubles in the future, it would be Ma Xiaoyun, Zhou Hongyi and Chen Li's own problems.
But Chen Li had agreed from the very beginning that he would not participate in the operation of the company, and would only take shares.
So in fact, Chen Li picked himself very "clean"!
Of course~ the reason for putting quotation marks is because this cleanliness is only relative.
Because if the red pony really needs help, Chen Li is unlikely to ignore it.It's just that by picking it up like this, Chen Li can save a lot of troubles about the team behind him.
So in the end~ Chen Li and Ma Xiaoyun reached an agreement, and the team behind him chose to take [-]% of the direct benefits.
But here comes the problem~ Now Ma Xiaoyun suddenly told Chen Li that he was going to launch the security guard in a free mode.
Since it is free, security guards naturally cannot generate direct benefits.
What's the matter with this?
As for what Ma Xiaoyun said about worrying about causing vicious competition, it is pure nonsense, because it is free. In fact, it will cause vicious competition.
Do you want to?Everyone charges a fee, it is nothing more than who earns more and who earns less.
But when a red pony pops up suddenly to do something for free, it's not a question of earning more or less, but a question of cutting people's wealth and destroying their families.
That's it~ Ma Xiaoyun still told himself that it was to avoid vicious competition?Chen Li really wanted to spit on Ma Xiaoyun's face.
"Mr. Chen~ Wait until I finish speaking!"
Ma Xiaoyun was also a little depressed. He was interrupted by Chen Li when he was talking about the crucial moment.
It is indeed easy to misunderstand people at this point, so Ma Xiaoyun quickly waved his hand and continued:
"Of course I know that free operation is definitely more cruel than vicious competition."
"But... I just want to make this industry a little bit more brutal."
"Mr. Chen may not know much about it. The current Internet security industry in China seems to me to be a stagnant pool."
"Take anti-virus software as an example. In fact, many people are aware of the tricks created by those security software companies."
"People seem to be used to creating problems, then solving them, and making money from it."
"But in this way, these companies have caused these companies to focus on how to make profits."
"So look at the anti-virus software in our country. In the past few years~ basically there has been no progress."
Ma Xiaoyun began to talk eloquently, but Chen Li, who was diagonally across from him, was a little speechless, and even had no big words.
The reason why Ma Xiaoyun, a newcomer in the Internet security industry, dares to say this is not that the domestic security software companies are really as bad as he said, but because this guy is standing on the shoulders of giants.
And this giant is naturally Chen Li and the team behind him, to be precise, it is the "Red Pony Safety Guard" that Chen Li produced.
From Ma Xiaoyun's point of view, domestic security software companies are all idlers, they only know about infighting and making money every day, and have no intention of doing research and development at all.
Otherwise~ this group of guys who should have been in the regular army wouldn't be compared to the security guards that Chen Li's team created.
Yes~ Now that he is ready to eat Internet security, Ma Xiaoyun has naturally done a lot of research on this industry.
He is not a professional technician, but there are such people around him.
Zhou Hongyi made a comparison between "Red Pony Security Guard" and all security software on the market. In terms of active defense and virus detection, the performance of Security Guard is enough to kill all security software currently on the market.
Especially in the area of active defense, almost all security software currently on the market does not even have this function at all.
This is actually the core of what the red pony will use as the focus of publicity!
But at the same time~ this is also the point that offends people the most!
The reason for Red Pony’s financing is not that Red Pony Technology is short of money. You must know that Ma Xiaoyun spent 500 million US dollars at the beginning of its establishment, and Red Pony has not yet spent any major expenditures, so this money has not been spent at all. How many.
The biggest reason for financing is to find a capital to deal with other problems that may arise in the future due to offending people.
No way~ Because of the excellent security guards, it is bound to be "countered back" by other companies.
So ~ this is also the reason why Ma Xiaoyun chose to accept capital entry without lack of money.
The performance of the security guard is so good. Is there really no disadvantage?of course not!
The biggest shortcoming of Security Guard is that its means of killing viruses is very limited.
Yes~Although Security Guard is perfect in active defense and virus detection, basically all viruses currently on the market cannot escape the surveillance of Security Guard.
But defense and discovery alone cannot eliminate viruses.
In fact, this was originally a foreshadowing planted by Chen Li, because he knew very well that the cooperation of security guards and anti-virus software can actually form a system.
The reason why Chen Li took out security guards at that time was because during the Internet war, only security guards were needed for defense.
After the incident, Chen Li originally planned to exchange for 350 anti-virus software from the system at the right time.
But in the end~ He didn't mention it here, but Zhou Hongyi was inspired by the research on security guards, and then plunged into the research and development room to start the development of anti-virus software supporting security guards.
Although the anti-virus software developed by Zhou Hongyi, it is definitely impossible to compare with Xiaomeng's modified anti-virus software.
But because of the inspiration from the security guards, the performance of the antivirus software developed by Zhou Hongyi will definitely not be inferior to other software currently on the market.
After all, this should have been something that would have appeared several years later. After being advanced for so many years, it is normal to be ahead.
Coupled with the existence of security guards, this can be said to be at the top of the domestic Internet security industry in [-].
It is also because of this reason that Ma Xiaoyun is a little bit of a drifter!
Yes~ Ma Xiaoyun is really floating!This guy even thinks that other domestic security software companies are all idiots.
".!"
"So ~ after we discussed!"
"A conclusion has been reached!"
"Actually, whether it's taking the price route or talking about the product, the entry of our red pony itself is a huge threat to other companies."
"It's a matter of time to tear the face anyway. If this is the case, why didn't we just tear the face at the beginning?"
"At the very least~ we must drive them forward and let them run after us."
When he said this, Ma Xiaoyun smiled, a little creepy!
But immediately, Ma Xiaoyun realized that he seemed to have drifted away, so he brought the topic back.
"As for... this matter may cause losses to Mr. Chen and your team."
"We think so!"
"The company will take out 100 million US dollars as compensation!"
"Also~Although the security guard is free. But our anti-virus software is not free."
"This part of the benefits~ is still distributed according to the way we agreed before."
"Mr. Chen~ What do you think?"
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