Daxianguan

Chapter 766

At this time Liu Jiwen didn't dare to say anything, but there were other people who raised objections.

"Lord Chu, the people are the people after all. No matter what they do, how dare they be enemies of the officials? Even in the worst case, if you rule them with martial arts, everything will be fine. Could it be that they can still defeat the soldiers of the Holy Dynasty?"

The official obviously didn't take Chu Xian's 'threat' seriously.

Chu Xian smiled, glanced at the official who was speaking, and said, "This is Mr. Xu from the Ministry of War, right? I know you are good at using troops and have great strategies. That's right. No matter how hard those big landlords struggle, the ultimate dominance is in the hands of the officials." , But the Xuka people have ever thought about what the consequences will be if they use force? , more than 30 years, or even five or sixty years, if there is a better way, why break it and then build it?"

Mr. Xu has been persuaded a lot, but he is still a little bit dissatisfied. He raised his head and said: "Those big landlords are not stupid. Why do they let their life go by and make trouble? It doesn't make sense at all."

Chu Xian laughed loudly: "In this world, how can there be so many reasons? I don't know that the Shoufu Confucian once said that people are stupid and seldom think. They need to be wise with books, enlightened with rites, restrained with laws, and established with principles." Virtue; however, there are few wise people. Courtesy, morality, integrity and shame require a covenant. Human beings are greedy and profit-seeking by nature, and their nature is hard to change. Nine out of ten people take greed for lust, and take risks out of desperation. Therefore, they are both stupid and greedy. Mr. Xu, If it is really possible to restrain the world with etiquette and morality, what is the use of criminal law? What is the use of law?"

This Mr. Xu is not stupid. He can achieve the official position of the fifth grade. No one is a fool. Now that he has tasted Chuxian's words, he bows his hands at the moment, which can be said to be respectful, and then said: "Mr. FK U."

After finishing speaking, he walked back honestly.

What Chu Xian said just now not only convinced Mr. Xu, but also other officials nodded frequently.

At this time, Chu Xian hit the rails while it was hot: "Therefore, in order to eradicate hidden dangers, it is necessary to abolish private land ownership, or at least restrict it. For example, the land of one household should not exceed a hundred acres, and it must be ensured that half of the people in a land have land. It's safe."

When this matter was mentioned here, most of the officials actually agreed.

After all, most of the court officials are knowledgeable and far-sighted. Many of them originally wanted to reform, but they just suffered from lack of such ability and rights. Now what Chu Xian said is justified, and they are of course beginning to accept it. .

Even some neutral people, even those who opposed it at the beginning, are all leaning towards Chu Xian at this moment.

At this time, Li Yuanming spoke.

Liu Jiwen is hopeless. Li Yuanming knows that Chu Xian has frightened Liu Jiwen just now. As for the other people under his command, although there are sharp-tongued and eloquent people, to be honest, none of them can Wrestling with Chu Xian, from this point of view, Chu Xian is indeed qualified to enter the Shoufu Pavilion.

It stands to reason that in the current situation, Li Yuanming, as the minister, should let go and at least give Chu Xian some tolerance and encouragement.

But Li Yuanming just didn't like this Chu Xian.

In addition, he has another reason. Li Yuanming and his Li family are in the prefecture, which is the big landlord family in Chu Xian's mouth. It belongs to their Li family, not only a hundred acres, but a thousand acres.

Even if it was for his own family, Li Yuanming didn't want Chu Xian's decree to be carried out. What's more, during his years as minister, there were several cases of overturning and dismissing the reform of the land system. Chu Xian succeeds, doesn't that mean that what he did before was all wrong?

Therefore, it is impossible for Li Yuanming to make Chu Xian succeed, no matter for public or private reasons.

Since others can't count on him, then Li Yuanming will end by himself.

"Chu Shilang, there is some truth in what you said, but it also depends on the actual situation, and you can't do things that are illusory. After all, the old system has been in place for thousands of years, and there are eight if not ten thousand households with more than one hundred acres of arable land. Qian, how do you deal with it? Forcibly take back the cultivated land? I am afraid that no one will be able to accept it. If you want to enforce it, it will inevitably cause trouble, but if you don’t attack them, well, how will the people who come later balance? Don’t you, Chu Shilang, understand this truth? You have already sat in the position of the third-rank servant, why are you so naive and ignorant? Don’t you think about it. In the past thousands of years, there are so many sages in the Holy Dynasty. Are you the only one who sees the problem? Could it be that so many sages and immortals can’t see it? Hmph, it’s not that they can’t see it, but that it’s difficult to really reform, because the actual situation doesn’t allow it, so it’s better to continue the existing system. If you can maintain the thousand-year system without any problems, it means that there are no such major drawbacks, Minister Chu, no matter how you say it, what you said before is a bit exaggerated."

This was the first time that Li Yuanming reprimanded his officials in a place like the Chaohui. It stands to reason that with his status, he should not end, because an official of this level either does not speak or will have an effect.But now, Li Yuanming can't control that much anymore, he has to restrain Chu Xian, and in his opinion, he can do it completely.

It can be said that the question he raised can be said to hit the pain point directly. To be honest, some of the things Li Yuanming said are not fake. As for the problem of the system, he, the minister, has naturally thought about it, but obviously, he can't think of it at all. Countermeasures, as he said before, there is no perfect solution in the world.

Any method has to pay a corresponding price, and in his opinion, paying such a huge price is just to eliminate a system of land private ownership, which is not worth the loss. Of course, it is also because the elimination in this way also has his own interests, so Only then will the status quo be maintained and others will not be allowed to reform.

Li Yuanming is well aware of the dangers of the officialdom. Whoever does this kind of thing is tantamount to standing against many officials of the Holy Dynasty, even most of them.

Which official has no family members, and whose family has no land?
Basically, most of the officials' family members are big landlords, they are all 'victims' of the elimination of private land ownership, and they are enemies of most officials of the Holy Dynasty?Even if he is Shang Shuling, he would not dare to do such a thing.Only a stupefied and idiot like Chu Xian would touch this 'forbidden zone' like a fool without a brain.

So, of course we must stop it, of course we must oppose it.

The court meeting was quiet at the moment, waiting for Chu Xian to respond to Shang Shuling's question. Li Yuanming's words were very "proportionate" and very reasonable. His concerns were well-founded. It depends on how Chu Xian solves this most critical problem. up.

To be honest, with so many officials in the court meeting, few people can come up with a solution to this problem. Even if they do, after weighing the pros and cons, there are almost none that can really pass and be implemented.

Chu Xian was clearly prepared, otherwise, he would not have dared to propose reforms at the court meeting.

"The thing Shangshu made you scruples about is indeed reasonable and true." Chu Xian first admitted, especially when facing the Shangguan, he had to pay homage to his posture. After all, Liu Jiwen, who refuted the Shangguan and refuted the same level, was not the same For this kind of thing, etiquette and respect must be the same, otherwise it is easy to get burned.

And at this time, it is also the most test of a person's officialdom quality.

"However, there is a good way to be an official." After Chu Xian finished speaking, many officials thought to themselves, sure enough, first agree, and then "but", this is the usual routine, and I will also know it.

But the key point is the words after "but". Anyone can use the routine, but the key lies in whether the words behind can really solve the problem.

Li Yuanming also sneered in his heart, he wanted to hear what Chu Xian was going to do.

"It is indeed difficult to eliminate private ownership of land, especially to break the inherent concepts and interests that have been entrenched for thousands of years, so this matter must be distributed, and the law must be established first. The land does not belong to individuals, but it can be used by individuals. This is understandable. Since there is only one landlord in the Holy Dynasty, that is the Holy Dynasty itself, and everyone else is a tenant of the land."

Hearing this, many officials were stunned for a moment, showing surprise, and some even muttered to themselves: "This method is indeed a coup."

Apparently, the idea is rather novel.

"This is the first step, and the most important step, so that in the future, according to the law, the right to use the land can be recovered in an emergency, such as land for official use, or you can find any reason to recover the land. But if it's just that, It will definitely lead to civil uprisings. After all, it will affect other people's interests, which is tantamount to cutting flesh. No one will be happy to change it. Therefore, at this time, it needs to be exchanged for money, which is called repurchase. It can also be understood that the government pays. Buy back the fields."

After Chu Xian finished speaking, an official of the household department shook his head: "Master Shi Lang, do you know how much money this is? Even if the household department is emptied out, or even military silver is used, it may not be enough."

Li Yuanming even said coldly: "Chu Shilang, to be honest, someone proposed your buyback policy in the early years, but who has so much money? According to the current market price, buying back cultivated land in various states is definitely a sky-high price. Is this the way you came up with? It's just whimsical."

Apparently, Li Yuanming felt that he had found one of Chu Xian's most fatal loopholes. Indeed, it is indeed a good idea for the government to pay to buy back the land in the hands of those big landlords and then distribute it to the common people without land, but the problem is The gold and silver needed is simply a bottomless pit, even if all the gold and silver of the entire holy dynasty are collected, it may not be enough.This point, the household department is the most clear, so the first to speak just now is also an official of the household department.However, Chu Xian, as the left servant of the household department, actually put forward such a "naive" and "ignorant" idea. Li Yuanming felt that he could take this opportunity to shake Chu Xian's official position, or drive him out of the household department, or drive him out of the head office. Auxiliary Pavilion.

No matter which one it is, it can be regarded as a complete victory for oneself.

(End of this chapter)