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Chapter 604 The development plan of the Marvel Universe
Chapter 604 The Development Plan of the Marvel Universe (4100+ chapters, please subscribe~)
"Director Wu, you also know that Marvel has been acquired by Ronald Perelman before, and now even if we Marvel want to cooperate with you, there is no way!" Stan Lee's expression was a bit regretful.
He really regretted it. He originally wanted to use Ronald Perelman's financial resources to develop Marvel. Ronald Perelman is a well-known investor and financier in the United States, but who knew that Ronald Perelman Man didn't think about it at all, he just thought about how to squeeze Marvel's current resources. In the past six months, Stan Lee has quarreled with Ronald Perelman several times.
Stan Lee can't help it either. Although he has a strong influence in Marvel, Marvel is indeed in the hands of Ronald Perelman.
Now Marvel is not a listed company, which means that Ronald Perelman can mess with Marvel at will, and he doesn't have to be responsible to most of the other shareholders.
After half a year of getting along, Stan Lee has discovered that Ronald Perelman is basically an outsider leading an insider. In just half a year, the sales of Marvel comics have dropped by 40%!
Wu Jianye smiled and said, "This issue can be discussed later. What I need to know now is Li, your attitude. If Phantom Entertainment acquires Marvel, Phantom hopes that you can play a positive role in it."
Hearing what Wu Jianye said, Stan Lee showed a surprised smile. Seeing Wu Jianye's attitude, Phantom Entertainment really wanted to acquire Marvel.
"Then I need to know the Phantom's plan for the future of Marvel. You know, Marvel is my life's painstaking effort. I also want to know what the Phantom's plan is for the future of Marvel?" Although Stan Lee is more inclined to Phantom Entertainment , but he suffered from Ronald Perelman and became cautious.
Wu Jianye smiled and said: "If Phantom Entertainment can acquire Marvel, then Marvel will become an important part of Phantom Entertainment's development plan in the future, but this time will be relatively long. To be honest, the current film technology is not enough to develop Superhero movies, and superhero movies actually lack a suitable opportunity to appear in front of the public.”
Wu Jianye naturally has a long-term plan for the development of Marvel. How Superhero became famous in the first battle in another time and space is actually related to the development history of the United States. First, there was the success of "X-Men", and then It was the 911 incident in the United States. At this time, the first generation of small spiders turned out to let the citizens of the United States find a kind of spiritual sustenance.
This can be regarded as the official start of Hollywood's super-hero comic film adaptation.
The first two Tobey Maguire versions of "Spider-Man" produced by Sony brought Marvel $6200 million in revenue according to the previous split agreement, a figure that is enough to make all film companies envious .
However, as Sony, which owns the copyright of the little spider, relying on these two films to bring benefits to itself, companies around the world are crazy about it!
Tobey Maguire's first two "Spider-Man" brought a total of US$16 billion in box office results to Sony, and then added the sales of DVDs, rental income, and even profit sharing from derivatives such as hand-made toys around the movie, The total proceeds add up to $30 billion!
That's why, in 2008, Marvel wanted to make its own movies even though it was all over the place.
As Marvel's most well-known IP series, the character Little Spider has been Marvel's unyielding brother since it was created in 1962!
In various "Most Popular American Comic Characters" lists, Spider-Man will always share the top three with the Superman next door and Batman.
In the global IP value ranking list of later generations, the Spider-Man IP ranks 12th, while the "Marvel Movie Universe" IP is only 10th.See, a little spider is worth almost as much as all Marvel members.
This is also an important decision why Wu Jianyehui tried every means to include Marvel in his North American plan. It can be said that he did not deceive Stan Lee in this regard.
However, after Stan Lee heard Wu Jianye's answer, his previous happiness dropped a lot, because the development time given by Phantom Entertainment was too long, and he hoped to see the movie adapted from Marvel Superhero immediately.
"Wu, in fact, the current technology is enough to handle some movie special effects, why can't we advance this plan?" Stan Lee tried to make Wu Jianye advance his plan.
Wu Jianye chuckled, and said, "Of course it can be filmed, but that's not what Phantom is after. The movies that Phantom pursues are always high-quality products. We hope that super-English movies can change the pattern of Hollywood and even the world's movies, not those Ordinary movie."
"Excellent!" Stan Lee muttered to himself, and then asked: "If Phantom really plans to make a super-English movie, which hero will it be the first film of its own?"
"X-Men series!" Wu Jianye replied.
As an important part of Marvel, the X-Men is also a very popular combination in Marvel comics. Wu Jianye did not prepare to copy the filming plan of the Marvel Universe.
The success of Iron Man is because audiences in North America or around the world are tired of those righteous superheroes, and then Iron Man with shortcomings quickly won the hearts of audiences all over the world as soon as he appeared on the stage.
Sometimes, not all movies will be successful when they are made at any time. It also depends on the living space given to the movie under the background of the times.
The 82 version of "Shaolin Temple" could become the highest-grossing movie in China in the early 80s, but if it was made in the 90s or after 2000, the domestic box office of this movie can only be described as smashing the street.
After the decline of Hong Kong films in later generations, they relied on Du Cannon to support the scene, and his films have become classics in Hong Kong films. However, if Du Cannon's films are placed in the golden age of Hong Kong films, then they will not be able to escape. destiny.
Fans need to be cultivated. If it weren't for Du Cannon's early films as a foreshadowing, Du Cannon's later films would not be accepted by the audience.
The same is true for the movies of the Marvel Universe. The reason why "Iron Man" was able to succeed is because of the previous movies such as "X-Men" and "Spider-Man" as a foreshadowing, so that "Iron Man" was born.
As the most important part of Phantom Entertainment in the future, the Marvel Universe will naturally have a foreshadowing, and "X-Men" and "Spider-Man" are the foreshadowing of the Marvel Universe. When audiences around the world get used to superhero movies, It is the safest way to launch the entire Marvel universe according to the trend.
These plans are naturally influenced by Wu Jianye's cautious personality in the business field.
Stan Lee was slightly taken aback. Although he was asking about Wu Jianye just now, in his heart, as the first brother of Marvel comics, if Phantom Entertainment wants to become popular, it is safer to use "Spider-Man" as his opening film.
It's just that they didn't expect Phantom Entertainment to set their sights on the X-Men.
"X-Men is a group show, it's not easy to shoot!" Stan Lee said.
Wu Jianye smiled confidently: "I believe Phantom Entertainment will be successful!"
Stan Lee nodded and said, "Director Wu, this matter is too big. I need to think about it before I can give you an answer!"
Wu Jianye nodded, "Of course!"
"By the way, Director Wu, Phantom Entertainment handed over the acquisition of Marvel to you. Does that mean that you will also be responsible for the adaptation of Marvel Super Heroes in the future?" Stan Lee asked suddenly, but his expression was It's a bit complicated.
Wu Jianye glanced at Stan Lee and said with a smile: "No, when the film is being prepared, we will openly recruit candidates for the director, and I will not hold any position in it!"
Wu Jianye naturally understood what Stan Lee meant. Even at the press conference, Linda and Jiang Zhiqiang said that Wu Jianye was the filmmaker they admired most, but Wu Jianye's ability in North America is still open to question. , and Stan Lee didn't really believe in Wu Jianye's director ability.
Wu Jianye didn't explain anything about it. As long as he can't make any achievements in North America, such doubts will always exist. Those who are suspected, unless they can become an existence like Spielberg and have been successful, can they change some people's views.
In fact, even after Spielberg became famous, not everyone maintained 100% trust in him. Otherwise, when he was preparing for the "Raiders of the Lost Ark" series, he would not have found investors at the beginning. Even Universal, which has always had a close cooperative relationship with him, did not invest.
In the large Hollywood production companies, they all have their own complete and scientific judging mechanism. After receiving the project, they will immediately judge whether the movie will be good or not based on the director, actors, and story content welcomed by the audience.
It can only be said that producers and directors with higher reputations have more say when negotiating with production companies.
Of course, this does not include sequel movies. Although the cost of all sequel movies will increase exponentially, this type of movie is also more likely to succeed.
Phantom Entertainment's "Home Alone" series and "Terminator" series were not favored by major production companies, but when their first film was successful, all production companies would put down all their previous arrogance and find Phantom Entertainment is looking for cooperation, even before seeing the script, they can sign the contract.
Stan Lee smiled awkwardly, and said, "I didn't mean that, I just know that Director Wu is very busy with work, and I'm just worried that Director Wu can't concentrate on production!"
Wu Jianye chuckled, without revealing Stan Lee's real thoughts, and said with a smile: "I believe that among the current Hollywood production companies, no one can pay more attention to Marvel than Phantom. This cooperation will definitely be a win-win situation." You better think about the situation carefully!"
Stan Lee nodded, he naturally understood what Wu Jianye said.
After the two sides exchanged for a while, they said goodbye to each other.
After Wu Jianye returned to the hotel, he told Linda about the process of talking with Stan Lee. Linda also sighed after hearing it: "Actually, if Stan Lee knew that you are the boss of Phantom, he probably would have agreed by this time!"
There is nothing wrong with Linda saying that. If Stan Lee knew that the boss behind Phantom Entertainment valued Marvel so much, he would have agreed to it long ago.
Wu Jianye chuckled and said, "If everyone knows that I am the boss behind the Phantom, the whole Hollywood is probably boycotting Phantom Entertainment!"
The Jewish people in Hollywood can't find a way to deal with Phantom Entertainment and Wu Jianye. If they knew the real background of Phantom Entertainment, they would probably unite to resist Hollywood based on Hollywood's xenophobic nature.
RB's Sony and Panasonic won Columbia and Universal respectively. The start was difficult in hell, but the final result was that Sony survived RB's economic bubble by virtue of its strong financial ability. After being digested by the industry, Columbia Pictures disappeared and was replaced by Sony Pictures Entertainment, and Panasonic could only sell Universal in the end.
Wu Jianye has no interest in challenging the difficulty of hell.
Linda also knew what Wu Jianye meant. The joint statement between Phantom Entertainment and Fengge Media helped Phantom Entertainment suppress this potential threat.
But this does not mean that no one has doubts, but now everyone has seen the benefits brought to them here, because if there is a line between Phantom Entertainment and Fengge Media, other production companies can use their own The films are distributed throughout Southeast Asia at a more suitable price.
But when this honeymoon period is over, or when other production companies start to deploy in the Southeast Asian market, the problem of Phantom Entertainment will still be taken out as a loophole to attack Phantom Entertainment!
Both parties need time, and it depends on whether Phantom Entertainment can develop into a company capable of dealing with these problems within this period of time.
"But it doesn't matter. I think even if you don't disclose your identity, Stan Lee will be more inclined to cooperate with us. After all, Phantom Entertainment has more advantages than Ronald Perelman!" After thinking for a while, Linda continued, "Now we have to see what kind of conditions Ronald Perelman will propose!"
If there are two problems with the acquisition of Marvel, it is necessary to negotiate with Stan Lee based on the future development of Marvel, then it is useless to talk to Ronald Perelman about this.
Ronald Perelman is rich, powerful, and a well-known investor on Wall Street. Negotiating with him said that the development of Marvel is useless, and even belittled the development of Marvel. Only in this way can it be in his hands Sell Marvel back.
In the final analysis, the negotiation with Ronald Perelman is about funds. Ronald Perelman will definitely open his mouth. For him, Marvel is his investment, and Phantom Entertainment, as a company The production company, plus just reached a cooperation with Fengge Media.
If you find him at this time, you will definitely open your mouth like a lion.
Wu Jianye asked, "Have you got in touch with him?"
Linda replied: "I have already contacted him. He is in New York now. The company will set a specific appointment time with him!"
Wu Jianye said: "Well, this matter should be done as soon as possible!"
"understand!"
The next day!
When Wu Jianye walked out of the hotel, he saw a familiar figure of a woman in the lobby!
(End of this chapter)
"Director Wu, you also know that Marvel has been acquired by Ronald Perelman before, and now even if we Marvel want to cooperate with you, there is no way!" Stan Lee's expression was a bit regretful.
He really regretted it. He originally wanted to use Ronald Perelman's financial resources to develop Marvel. Ronald Perelman is a well-known investor and financier in the United States, but who knew that Ronald Perelman Man didn't think about it at all, he just thought about how to squeeze Marvel's current resources. In the past six months, Stan Lee has quarreled with Ronald Perelman several times.
Stan Lee can't help it either. Although he has a strong influence in Marvel, Marvel is indeed in the hands of Ronald Perelman.
Now Marvel is not a listed company, which means that Ronald Perelman can mess with Marvel at will, and he doesn't have to be responsible to most of the other shareholders.
After half a year of getting along, Stan Lee has discovered that Ronald Perelman is basically an outsider leading an insider. In just half a year, the sales of Marvel comics have dropped by 40%!
Wu Jianye smiled and said, "This issue can be discussed later. What I need to know now is Li, your attitude. If Phantom Entertainment acquires Marvel, Phantom hopes that you can play a positive role in it."
Hearing what Wu Jianye said, Stan Lee showed a surprised smile. Seeing Wu Jianye's attitude, Phantom Entertainment really wanted to acquire Marvel.
"Then I need to know the Phantom's plan for the future of Marvel. You know, Marvel is my life's painstaking effort. I also want to know what the Phantom's plan is for the future of Marvel?" Although Stan Lee is more inclined to Phantom Entertainment , but he suffered from Ronald Perelman and became cautious.
Wu Jianye smiled and said: "If Phantom Entertainment can acquire Marvel, then Marvel will become an important part of Phantom Entertainment's development plan in the future, but this time will be relatively long. To be honest, the current film technology is not enough to develop Superhero movies, and superhero movies actually lack a suitable opportunity to appear in front of the public.”
Wu Jianye naturally has a long-term plan for the development of Marvel. How Superhero became famous in the first battle in another time and space is actually related to the development history of the United States. First, there was the success of "X-Men", and then It was the 911 incident in the United States. At this time, the first generation of small spiders turned out to let the citizens of the United States find a kind of spiritual sustenance.
This can be regarded as the official start of Hollywood's super-hero comic film adaptation.
The first two Tobey Maguire versions of "Spider-Man" produced by Sony brought Marvel $6200 million in revenue according to the previous split agreement, a figure that is enough to make all film companies envious .
However, as Sony, which owns the copyright of the little spider, relying on these two films to bring benefits to itself, companies around the world are crazy about it!
Tobey Maguire's first two "Spider-Man" brought a total of US$16 billion in box office results to Sony, and then added the sales of DVDs, rental income, and even profit sharing from derivatives such as hand-made toys around the movie, The total proceeds add up to $30 billion!
That's why, in 2008, Marvel wanted to make its own movies even though it was all over the place.
As Marvel's most well-known IP series, the character Little Spider has been Marvel's unyielding brother since it was created in 1962!
In various "Most Popular American Comic Characters" lists, Spider-Man will always share the top three with the Superman next door and Batman.
In the global IP value ranking list of later generations, the Spider-Man IP ranks 12th, while the "Marvel Movie Universe" IP is only 10th.See, a little spider is worth almost as much as all Marvel members.
This is also an important decision why Wu Jianyehui tried every means to include Marvel in his North American plan. It can be said that he did not deceive Stan Lee in this regard.
However, after Stan Lee heard Wu Jianye's answer, his previous happiness dropped a lot, because the development time given by Phantom Entertainment was too long, and he hoped to see the movie adapted from Marvel Superhero immediately.
"Wu, in fact, the current technology is enough to handle some movie special effects, why can't we advance this plan?" Stan Lee tried to make Wu Jianye advance his plan.
Wu Jianye chuckled, and said, "Of course it can be filmed, but that's not what Phantom is after. The movies that Phantom pursues are always high-quality products. We hope that super-English movies can change the pattern of Hollywood and even the world's movies, not those Ordinary movie."
"Excellent!" Stan Lee muttered to himself, and then asked: "If Phantom really plans to make a super-English movie, which hero will it be the first film of its own?"
"X-Men series!" Wu Jianye replied.
As an important part of Marvel, the X-Men is also a very popular combination in Marvel comics. Wu Jianye did not prepare to copy the filming plan of the Marvel Universe.
The success of Iron Man is because audiences in North America or around the world are tired of those righteous superheroes, and then Iron Man with shortcomings quickly won the hearts of audiences all over the world as soon as he appeared on the stage.
Sometimes, not all movies will be successful when they are made at any time. It also depends on the living space given to the movie under the background of the times.
The 82 version of "Shaolin Temple" could become the highest-grossing movie in China in the early 80s, but if it was made in the 90s or after 2000, the domestic box office of this movie can only be described as smashing the street.
After the decline of Hong Kong films in later generations, they relied on Du Cannon to support the scene, and his films have become classics in Hong Kong films. However, if Du Cannon's films are placed in the golden age of Hong Kong films, then they will not be able to escape. destiny.
Fans need to be cultivated. If it weren't for Du Cannon's early films as a foreshadowing, Du Cannon's later films would not be accepted by the audience.
The same is true for the movies of the Marvel Universe. The reason why "Iron Man" was able to succeed is because of the previous movies such as "X-Men" and "Spider-Man" as a foreshadowing, so that "Iron Man" was born.
As the most important part of Phantom Entertainment in the future, the Marvel Universe will naturally have a foreshadowing, and "X-Men" and "Spider-Man" are the foreshadowing of the Marvel Universe. When audiences around the world get used to superhero movies, It is the safest way to launch the entire Marvel universe according to the trend.
These plans are naturally influenced by Wu Jianye's cautious personality in the business field.
Stan Lee was slightly taken aback. Although he was asking about Wu Jianye just now, in his heart, as the first brother of Marvel comics, if Phantom Entertainment wants to become popular, it is safer to use "Spider-Man" as his opening film.
It's just that they didn't expect Phantom Entertainment to set their sights on the X-Men.
"X-Men is a group show, it's not easy to shoot!" Stan Lee said.
Wu Jianye smiled confidently: "I believe Phantom Entertainment will be successful!"
Stan Lee nodded and said, "Director Wu, this matter is too big. I need to think about it before I can give you an answer!"
Wu Jianye nodded, "Of course!"
"By the way, Director Wu, Phantom Entertainment handed over the acquisition of Marvel to you. Does that mean that you will also be responsible for the adaptation of Marvel Super Heroes in the future?" Stan Lee asked suddenly, but his expression was It's a bit complicated.
Wu Jianye glanced at Stan Lee and said with a smile: "No, when the film is being prepared, we will openly recruit candidates for the director, and I will not hold any position in it!"
Wu Jianye naturally understood what Stan Lee meant. Even at the press conference, Linda and Jiang Zhiqiang said that Wu Jianye was the filmmaker they admired most, but Wu Jianye's ability in North America is still open to question. , and Stan Lee didn't really believe in Wu Jianye's director ability.
Wu Jianye didn't explain anything about it. As long as he can't make any achievements in North America, such doubts will always exist. Those who are suspected, unless they can become an existence like Spielberg and have been successful, can they change some people's views.
In fact, even after Spielberg became famous, not everyone maintained 100% trust in him. Otherwise, when he was preparing for the "Raiders of the Lost Ark" series, he would not have found investors at the beginning. Even Universal, which has always had a close cooperative relationship with him, did not invest.
In the large Hollywood production companies, they all have their own complete and scientific judging mechanism. After receiving the project, they will immediately judge whether the movie will be good or not based on the director, actors, and story content welcomed by the audience.
It can only be said that producers and directors with higher reputations have more say when negotiating with production companies.
Of course, this does not include sequel movies. Although the cost of all sequel movies will increase exponentially, this type of movie is also more likely to succeed.
Phantom Entertainment's "Home Alone" series and "Terminator" series were not favored by major production companies, but when their first film was successful, all production companies would put down all their previous arrogance and find Phantom Entertainment is looking for cooperation, even before seeing the script, they can sign the contract.
Stan Lee smiled awkwardly, and said, "I didn't mean that, I just know that Director Wu is very busy with work, and I'm just worried that Director Wu can't concentrate on production!"
Wu Jianye chuckled, without revealing Stan Lee's real thoughts, and said with a smile: "I believe that among the current Hollywood production companies, no one can pay more attention to Marvel than Phantom. This cooperation will definitely be a win-win situation." You better think about the situation carefully!"
Stan Lee nodded, he naturally understood what Wu Jianye said.
After the two sides exchanged for a while, they said goodbye to each other.
After Wu Jianye returned to the hotel, he told Linda about the process of talking with Stan Lee. Linda also sighed after hearing it: "Actually, if Stan Lee knew that you are the boss of Phantom, he probably would have agreed by this time!"
There is nothing wrong with Linda saying that. If Stan Lee knew that the boss behind Phantom Entertainment valued Marvel so much, he would have agreed to it long ago.
Wu Jianye chuckled and said, "If everyone knows that I am the boss behind the Phantom, the whole Hollywood is probably boycotting Phantom Entertainment!"
The Jewish people in Hollywood can't find a way to deal with Phantom Entertainment and Wu Jianye. If they knew the real background of Phantom Entertainment, they would probably unite to resist Hollywood based on Hollywood's xenophobic nature.
RB's Sony and Panasonic won Columbia and Universal respectively. The start was difficult in hell, but the final result was that Sony survived RB's economic bubble by virtue of its strong financial ability. After being digested by the industry, Columbia Pictures disappeared and was replaced by Sony Pictures Entertainment, and Panasonic could only sell Universal in the end.
Wu Jianye has no interest in challenging the difficulty of hell.
Linda also knew what Wu Jianye meant. The joint statement between Phantom Entertainment and Fengge Media helped Phantom Entertainment suppress this potential threat.
But this does not mean that no one has doubts, but now everyone has seen the benefits brought to them here, because if there is a line between Phantom Entertainment and Fengge Media, other production companies can use their own The films are distributed throughout Southeast Asia at a more suitable price.
But when this honeymoon period is over, or when other production companies start to deploy in the Southeast Asian market, the problem of Phantom Entertainment will still be taken out as a loophole to attack Phantom Entertainment!
Both parties need time, and it depends on whether Phantom Entertainment can develop into a company capable of dealing with these problems within this period of time.
"But it doesn't matter. I think even if you don't disclose your identity, Stan Lee will be more inclined to cooperate with us. After all, Phantom Entertainment has more advantages than Ronald Perelman!" After thinking for a while, Linda continued, "Now we have to see what kind of conditions Ronald Perelman will propose!"
If there are two problems with the acquisition of Marvel, it is necessary to negotiate with Stan Lee based on the future development of Marvel, then it is useless to talk to Ronald Perelman about this.
Ronald Perelman is rich, powerful, and a well-known investor on Wall Street. Negotiating with him said that the development of Marvel is useless, and even belittled the development of Marvel. Only in this way can it be in his hands Sell Marvel back.
In the final analysis, the negotiation with Ronald Perelman is about funds. Ronald Perelman will definitely open his mouth. For him, Marvel is his investment, and Phantom Entertainment, as a company The production company, plus just reached a cooperation with Fengge Media.
If you find him at this time, you will definitely open your mouth like a lion.
Wu Jianye asked, "Have you got in touch with him?"
Linda replied: "I have already contacted him. He is in New York now. The company will set a specific appointment time with him!"
Wu Jianye said: "Well, this matter should be done as soon as possible!"
"understand!"
The next day!
When Wu Jianye walked out of the hotel, he saw a familiar figure of a woman in the lobby!
(End of this chapter)
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