After a thousand years of trading, start a million barrels of oil
Chapter 158 Are you willing to take a gamble?
Chapter 158 Are you willing to take a gamble? (seeking a monthly ticket)
On Huaxia's side, because they didn't deliberately control public opinion, with the ferment of the media, the public also knew that Hua Wei was going to take the lead in developing a high-end lithography machine, which attracted a discussion among netizens.
"Have you heard? Hua Wei wants to develop his own lithography machine."
"Self-developed lithography machine, that thing is said to be difficult to manufacture, we are still relatively backward in this area."
"It's not only difficult to make, it's quite difficult to make. It's equivalent to drawing 1000 pictures of Qingming Riverside on an area the size of a hair section. Do you think it's difficult or not?"
"My dear, I can't even draw a circle if you ask me to draw it, no wonder it's so difficult."
"It's more than that. I'm in the semiconductor industry. This time, they not only use lithography machines, but also a whole set of things from wafer manufacturing to chip output. It is more difficult than just making A lithography machine is at least 10 times harder."
"My God, are they crazy? How can this be done? Just a lithography machine has been called for many years without any breakthrough."
"I don't know what they think. Is it for speculation to drive up the stock price?"
"Huawei is not listed yet, so why is the stock price being pushed up?"
"That's right, then I don't know why, but they worked together to create a state-of-the-art EDA in nine days. It can be done."
"hope so."
Here at Jiang Fan, the chip industry chain negotiation meeting was also held as scheduled.
Domestic large and medium-sized and key manufacturers in the entire industrial chain have been invited, and the Huawei conference hall is full of people. This time, there are no reporters or other people. They are all at the helm of the industry or representatives.
The meeting has not yet started, and it is rare for everyone to get together. Many of them have upstream and downstream cooperation relationships, and they all greet and talk.
"Hi, hello, you are coming to this meeting too." A thin man obviously met someone he knew, and after looking for someone to change places, he shook hands and talked with the other party.
"Hello, hello, yes, the invitation sent to me last week, Hua Wei's meeting is quite involved, I see that the bosses of several well-known companies in the industry have come, and the invitation said that they will engage in High-end chips, I didn’t say anything more specific, did you say that?” another fat man asked.
"I didn't say anything, I just said we'll discuss it during the meeting, and I don't know what kind of medicine is sold in the gourd." The thin man replied, and then he looked at the fat man and asked, "Do you think what they said is true or not?" ?”
The chubby man thought for a while, then shook his head and said, "I don't think it's very reliable. If we really want to make chips, we will contact them in private and then spread them out step by step. How can there be such a big fanfare? It's not just a show.
I was watching the news on the day I received the invitation letter. I saw that the media had reported it. How could we know that it was later than the media? This is not like a big plan. "
"I also feel a little abnormal, I don't know what the hell is going on." The thin man nodded and said, but he changed the subject and asked again:
"If it is true, if they are really engaged in high-end chips, will you participate?"
The chubby man thought about it for a while, and finally shook his head: "Unless it's almost finished and the last step is left, or you don't need to invest too much to play with it.
If I were to invest a large amount of manpower and funds to gamble on this castle in the air, I would not be willing.
It's not clear to us how difficult it is for high-end chips. In the end, [-]% of the investment is in vain, and normal production is affected. How can it be cost-effective to directly buy foreign chips.
Even if there is a problem like a stuck neck, we have already made money, and the big deal is to transform and do other things, so we don't bother with this extra effort.
It is not worthwhile to engage in independent research and development. "
The lean man thought for a while and said: "Indeed, it's too uneconomical. Although our company's cash flow is okay, I don't want to invest so much money in research and development.
I buy things by myself and enjoy them, why bother to do independent research and development.
What's more, Hua Wei, a chip designer, took the lead in manufacturing, and it felt unreliable. Even if they jointly spent nine days to come up with Panda EDA, the difficulty of chip manufacturing is far from comparable to that of EDA. cost-effective. "
Their conversation fell into the ears of a 73-year-old man in the back row who was about the same age as Mr. Ren.
His name is Zhang Rujin, and he was the former chairman of Zhongxin International. Zhongxin International is the strongest company in China's chip manufacturing industry. They have been working hard to get closer to the world level in the chip field.
When Zhang Rujin heard that Hua Wei's invitation letter was also an assembly order, he did not hesitate too much. After communicating with the current chairman of Zhongxin International, he came to the meeting on behalf of Zhongxin International.
He did not agree with the words of the two colleagues in the front row. An entrepreneur should not only make money, but also have a sense of mission. Especially in the chip field where China's overall strength is lagging behind, they need to shoulder more of the mission of revitalizing the industry.
So he wants to know, Hua Wei, a company with the same ambition as him, is convening the industry today, what is it going to talk about?
At this time, the negotiation meeting just started. Jiang Fan, representing Hua Wei, walked up to the stage and looked at the densely packed industry speakers in the seats below. Some of them will bear the hope of Huaxia Chip's real rise.
He smiled and said: "Everyone, welcome to come here, I think you already know the purpose of our convening this meeting, yes, we want to manufacture our own domestically produced high-end chips.
Some people may have doubts, you, Hua Wei, a chip designer, why did you pull us a group of professional chip manufacturers, saying that you want to lead us to engage in chip manufacturing?
Yes, it’s as if we, a chip designer, can still produce the world’s most advanced Panda EDA together with Hua Da Jiutian. Therefore, professionalism is not an obstacle that hinders us from making high-end chips.
Some people may also ask, can Hua Wei handle so many links in chip manufacturing?That's right, that's why we invite you to join us in making breakthroughs.
We believe in your determination and strength, just as we believe in our ability to complete this historic project together with you.
Therefore, I need everyone to make a choice. Those who are willing to fight with us, we welcome, and those who are unwilling, we will not force it. "
Jiang Fan didn't say much, and after he finished speaking, he smiled and looked at the audience, waiting for their reaction.
Sure enough, after Jiang Fan finished speaking, there was a lot of discussion in the audience. After a while, someone raised his hand and asked:
"My friend of Hua Wei, do you have some information? How sure are you that you can succeed in such a complex chip manufacturing technology system?"
Jiang Fan smiled and replied: "I have some information, but I'm not sure how sure it is. 0%, 100%, it's all possible."
Question: "How many nanometers of chips are you planning to break through this time?"
Jiang Fan: "I can't disclose it yet, but it belongs to the high-end category."
Ask: "How far have you progressed?"
Jiang Fan: "It's just started."
Question: "How much did Hua Wei invest in you?"
Jiang Fan: "All available cash flow, we will All In."
Ask: "What if it fails?"
Jiang Fan paused, looked at everyone and said: "If you fail, your investment will be in vain, your time will be wasted, of course, we will be like you, or even worse.
And, because you're tied to us to try out the chip's highest level of technology, you might even be under the same pressure as we are.
There are no advantages, all are disadvantages. The only advantage is that if we succeed, perhaps Huaxia's chips will embark on an independent path. There is only one reason for everything we do.
So this is a gamble, and it's your turn to decide whether to bet or not. "
Jiang Fan did not reveal too much actual information. On the one hand, with so many companies and so many people, he does not know the background of all these people, so it is not convenient to disclose that they will eventually manufacture 2nm chips that surpass all current standards. Target.
On the other hand, he also does not want to stay a group of companies that are purely for profit and have no responsibility at all. Today such companies can get together for profit, and tomorrow they can also sell materials and technology for profit. This is absolutely true. It cannot be allowed.
So this is a loyalty test, not to test their loyalty to Hua Wei, but to test their loyalty to the country. Hua Wei made Panda EDA, which should be able to give these people 50% confidence and let them know that Hua Wei Wei is not completely unprepared.
But the other 50% is up to them. It depends on whether they are willing to gamble with Hua Wei and gamble on Huaxia's strength in the field of chips.
But the result seems to be unsatisfactory, and there are more doubts in the venue.
"I'm not sure what to ask us to do. The risk is too great."
"We are all in business and want to make money. If you want to talk about things that are sure to make a profit without losing money or the risk is very low, we are happy to have a drink with you.
But this is a huge amount of money and manpower invested, and the risks are completely unclear. Just for the big proposition of the fate of China's chips, we just need to live well.
Besides, you, Hua Wei, are already under pressure. We live a good life by obeying others. Who will accompany you to put your wealth and life on it. "
"Yes, there is still the risk of offending others. I don't want to be pressured."
There were endless discussions, and Jiang Fan saw the expressions of shaking his head and disdain, and he was also a little disappointed, and finally said:
"The words have been said here, if you are willing to work hard with us for domestic high-end chips, you can stay, and others can go."
After Jiang Fan finished speaking, everyone was silent for two seconds, and then some people got up and started to leave the table, and more and more people left the table.
"Maybe it's really too difficult for everyone." Jiang Fan also smiled helplessly as if mocking himself.
And just when the entire negotiation meeting was developing in a negative direction, an old voice who seemed a little rickety stood up from the audience, looked at everyone and said:
"Everyone, wait a minute and listen to me."
After hearing these words, everyone looked at him in unison.
(End of this chapter)
On Huaxia's side, because they didn't deliberately control public opinion, with the ferment of the media, the public also knew that Hua Wei was going to take the lead in developing a high-end lithography machine, which attracted a discussion among netizens.
"Have you heard? Hua Wei wants to develop his own lithography machine."
"Self-developed lithography machine, that thing is said to be difficult to manufacture, we are still relatively backward in this area."
"It's not only difficult to make, it's quite difficult to make. It's equivalent to drawing 1000 pictures of Qingming Riverside on an area the size of a hair section. Do you think it's difficult or not?"
"My dear, I can't even draw a circle if you ask me to draw it, no wonder it's so difficult."
"It's more than that. I'm in the semiconductor industry. This time, they not only use lithography machines, but also a whole set of things from wafer manufacturing to chip output. It is more difficult than just making A lithography machine is at least 10 times harder."
"My God, are they crazy? How can this be done? Just a lithography machine has been called for many years without any breakthrough."
"I don't know what they think. Is it for speculation to drive up the stock price?"
"Huawei is not listed yet, so why is the stock price being pushed up?"
"That's right, then I don't know why, but they worked together to create a state-of-the-art EDA in nine days. It can be done."
"hope so."
Here at Jiang Fan, the chip industry chain negotiation meeting was also held as scheduled.
Domestic large and medium-sized and key manufacturers in the entire industrial chain have been invited, and the Huawei conference hall is full of people. This time, there are no reporters or other people. They are all at the helm of the industry or representatives.
The meeting has not yet started, and it is rare for everyone to get together. Many of them have upstream and downstream cooperation relationships, and they all greet and talk.
"Hi, hello, you are coming to this meeting too." A thin man obviously met someone he knew, and after looking for someone to change places, he shook hands and talked with the other party.
"Hello, hello, yes, the invitation sent to me last week, Hua Wei's meeting is quite involved, I see that the bosses of several well-known companies in the industry have come, and the invitation said that they will engage in High-end chips, I didn’t say anything more specific, did you say that?” another fat man asked.
"I didn't say anything, I just said we'll discuss it during the meeting, and I don't know what kind of medicine is sold in the gourd." The thin man replied, and then he looked at the fat man and asked, "Do you think what they said is true or not?" ?”
The chubby man thought for a while, then shook his head and said, "I don't think it's very reliable. If we really want to make chips, we will contact them in private and then spread them out step by step. How can there be such a big fanfare? It's not just a show.
I was watching the news on the day I received the invitation letter. I saw that the media had reported it. How could we know that it was later than the media? This is not like a big plan. "
"I also feel a little abnormal, I don't know what the hell is going on." The thin man nodded and said, but he changed the subject and asked again:
"If it is true, if they are really engaged in high-end chips, will you participate?"
The chubby man thought about it for a while, and finally shook his head: "Unless it's almost finished and the last step is left, or you don't need to invest too much to play with it.
If I were to invest a large amount of manpower and funds to gamble on this castle in the air, I would not be willing.
It's not clear to us how difficult it is for high-end chips. In the end, [-]% of the investment is in vain, and normal production is affected. How can it be cost-effective to directly buy foreign chips.
Even if there is a problem like a stuck neck, we have already made money, and the big deal is to transform and do other things, so we don't bother with this extra effort.
It is not worthwhile to engage in independent research and development. "
The lean man thought for a while and said: "Indeed, it's too uneconomical. Although our company's cash flow is okay, I don't want to invest so much money in research and development.
I buy things by myself and enjoy them, why bother to do independent research and development.
What's more, Hua Wei, a chip designer, took the lead in manufacturing, and it felt unreliable. Even if they jointly spent nine days to come up with Panda EDA, the difficulty of chip manufacturing is far from comparable to that of EDA. cost-effective. "
Their conversation fell into the ears of a 73-year-old man in the back row who was about the same age as Mr. Ren.
His name is Zhang Rujin, and he was the former chairman of Zhongxin International. Zhongxin International is the strongest company in China's chip manufacturing industry. They have been working hard to get closer to the world level in the chip field.
When Zhang Rujin heard that Hua Wei's invitation letter was also an assembly order, he did not hesitate too much. After communicating with the current chairman of Zhongxin International, he came to the meeting on behalf of Zhongxin International.
He did not agree with the words of the two colleagues in the front row. An entrepreneur should not only make money, but also have a sense of mission. Especially in the chip field where China's overall strength is lagging behind, they need to shoulder more of the mission of revitalizing the industry.
So he wants to know, Hua Wei, a company with the same ambition as him, is convening the industry today, what is it going to talk about?
At this time, the negotiation meeting just started. Jiang Fan, representing Hua Wei, walked up to the stage and looked at the densely packed industry speakers in the seats below. Some of them will bear the hope of Huaxia Chip's real rise.
He smiled and said: "Everyone, welcome to come here, I think you already know the purpose of our convening this meeting, yes, we want to manufacture our own domestically produced high-end chips.
Some people may have doubts, you, Hua Wei, a chip designer, why did you pull us a group of professional chip manufacturers, saying that you want to lead us to engage in chip manufacturing?
Yes, it’s as if we, a chip designer, can still produce the world’s most advanced Panda EDA together with Hua Da Jiutian. Therefore, professionalism is not an obstacle that hinders us from making high-end chips.
Some people may also ask, can Hua Wei handle so many links in chip manufacturing?That's right, that's why we invite you to join us in making breakthroughs.
We believe in your determination and strength, just as we believe in our ability to complete this historic project together with you.
Therefore, I need everyone to make a choice. Those who are willing to fight with us, we welcome, and those who are unwilling, we will not force it. "
Jiang Fan didn't say much, and after he finished speaking, he smiled and looked at the audience, waiting for their reaction.
Sure enough, after Jiang Fan finished speaking, there was a lot of discussion in the audience. After a while, someone raised his hand and asked:
"My friend of Hua Wei, do you have some information? How sure are you that you can succeed in such a complex chip manufacturing technology system?"
Jiang Fan smiled and replied: "I have some information, but I'm not sure how sure it is. 0%, 100%, it's all possible."
Question: "How many nanometers of chips are you planning to break through this time?"
Jiang Fan: "I can't disclose it yet, but it belongs to the high-end category."
Ask: "How far have you progressed?"
Jiang Fan: "It's just started."
Question: "How much did Hua Wei invest in you?"
Jiang Fan: "All available cash flow, we will All In."
Ask: "What if it fails?"
Jiang Fan paused, looked at everyone and said: "If you fail, your investment will be in vain, your time will be wasted, of course, we will be like you, or even worse.
And, because you're tied to us to try out the chip's highest level of technology, you might even be under the same pressure as we are.
There are no advantages, all are disadvantages. The only advantage is that if we succeed, perhaps Huaxia's chips will embark on an independent path. There is only one reason for everything we do.
So this is a gamble, and it's your turn to decide whether to bet or not. "
Jiang Fan did not reveal too much actual information. On the one hand, with so many companies and so many people, he does not know the background of all these people, so it is not convenient to disclose that they will eventually manufacture 2nm chips that surpass all current standards. Target.
On the other hand, he also does not want to stay a group of companies that are purely for profit and have no responsibility at all. Today such companies can get together for profit, and tomorrow they can also sell materials and technology for profit. This is absolutely true. It cannot be allowed.
So this is a loyalty test, not to test their loyalty to Hua Wei, but to test their loyalty to the country. Hua Wei made Panda EDA, which should be able to give these people 50% confidence and let them know that Hua Wei Wei is not completely unprepared.
But the other 50% is up to them. It depends on whether they are willing to gamble with Hua Wei and gamble on Huaxia's strength in the field of chips.
But the result seems to be unsatisfactory, and there are more doubts in the venue.
"I'm not sure what to ask us to do. The risk is too great."
"We are all in business and want to make money. If you want to talk about things that are sure to make a profit without losing money or the risk is very low, we are happy to have a drink with you.
But this is a huge amount of money and manpower invested, and the risks are completely unclear. Just for the big proposition of the fate of China's chips, we just need to live well.
Besides, you, Hua Wei, are already under pressure. We live a good life by obeying others. Who will accompany you to put your wealth and life on it. "
"Yes, there is still the risk of offending others. I don't want to be pressured."
There were endless discussions, and Jiang Fan saw the expressions of shaking his head and disdain, and he was also a little disappointed, and finally said:
"The words have been said here, if you are willing to work hard with us for domestic high-end chips, you can stay, and others can go."
After Jiang Fan finished speaking, everyone was silent for two seconds, and then some people got up and started to leave the table, and more and more people left the table.
"Maybe it's really too difficult for everyone." Jiang Fan also smiled helplessly as if mocking himself.
And just when the entire negotiation meeting was developing in a negative direction, an old voice who seemed a little rickety stood up from the audience, looked at everyone and said:
"Everyone, wait a minute and listen to me."
After hearing these words, everyone looked at him in unison.
(End of this chapter)
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