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Chapter 160 5 nanometers? 12 nanometers?

Seeing the call, Yang Ping calmed down, answered the phone and said, "Hello, hello."

On the other end of the phone: "Is this Chairman Yang Ping of Xike Electronics? I'm Hua Wei. I'm calling to inform you that your company has passed the screening and entered the list of participating companies in this chip alliance. Congratulations !"

Yang Ping's face turned from nervousness to joy. He was always worried that if he was not selected, he would not be able to complete the task assigned to him by the other side of the ocean. He did not expect to be so lucky that he was actually selected.

But he still coughed twice, pretending to be calm and said: "Okay, I see, thank you, what should I do?"

The other side replied: "You can bring people to our company in three days. We have some information including your plan and will pass it on to you."

"Okay, I see, goodbye." Yang Ping hung up the phone, the joy in his heart could not be concealed, the task was completed beautifully, not only was he shortlisted, but after three days, he could even get the plan and materials. I explained it to there.

Three days later, Yang Ping personally took people to Huawei Company, and the personnel specially arranged by Jiang Fan gave him a mobile hard disk after confirming it on the computer.

In addition to a fictitious plan that has modified some key nodes in the real plan, there is also a real chip manufacturing and processing part, which is genuine and not fictitious.

It's just that what Jiang Fan gave was not 2 nanometers, but incomplete information about 12 nanometers that young people accidentally made a mistake at the beginning.

Only the real can deceive people.

Yang Ping pretended to be calm on the surface, and listened to Hua Wei's assignment of tasks very seriously, but when he returned to the company, he completely let go, finally completed the task, and the benefits given there can also be honored , he quickly contacted special personnel to pass the news through special channels.

On the other side of the ocean, the old man felt relieved when he received this report.

The surprise is that I thought the other party was just bluffing, but I didn't expect that the other party was really engaged in a high-end chip research and development plan.

I feel at ease because it is said to be high-end, but it is just the 12-nanometer chip manufacturing technology that they did not use many years ago, and it is at least 5 generations behind the 2-nanometer technology they are mass-producing now. It is really nothing to be afraid of.

But to be on the safe side, he decided to hold a meeting to discuss this matter and see if other people had the same opinion.

After introducing the situation of the complete body, the old man looked at everyone, wanting to hear their thoughts.

Some members commented after hearing this: "This is still different from our previous expectations. We thought they were just talking about it. I didn't expect them to hold a semiconductor conference and toss out such a big alliance. I think it is No, you still need to pay attention to it.”

As soon as he finished speaking, other people waved their hands and said, "I don't think it's that serious, so I don't think the industry alliance is much different from organizations like our Semiconductor Association.

Moreover, if they want to develop chips, they should indeed form an alliance. This is a normal operation, and there is no need to lose everything.

It can also be seen from their development goals that their current strongest Zhongxin International can barely mass-produce 14nm chips, and this time the goal is 12nm, which is also within our expectations. Others don't develop at all.

But everyone does not know what level is 12nm, so there is nothing to be afraid of, so I don't think there is anything to worry about. "

"Is it possible that they just use 12nm as a springboard, in fact, to challenge a smaller chip size?" Some people also questioned.

The previous member smiled and replied: "Even if they only use the 12nm chip as a springboard, the next target will be a 10nm chip at most, it's impossible to jump.

Even if it is a 10nm chip, from 10nm to 7nm, and then to the 5nm we produce, there are still two generations of gaps to be overcome.

It took 5 to 10 years for them to cross the first generation. After more than 20 years of the second generation, we don’t know what kind of development it will be. Are you still worried about him?

Besides, our 3nm chips are about to be mass-produced. By then, there will be a gap of three generations between them and us. How many years will the gap between the three generations be?By then, we may have entered the era of quantum chips, who will talk about transistors with you. "

After hearing this, everyone nodded frequently. What they said made sense. Every generation of chips needs to condense countless technologies. How can it be so simple.

But some people still raised questions: "If it's only 12 nanometers, why would they dare to use this as a condition to make our delegation make commercial concessions? After all, they really held a meeting to form an alliance, and it was not a bluff."

The man laughed when he heard it just now, and said: "It's easy to understand, as I said just now, toss out such a conference, and get over half of the semiconductor industry, it's not really just to tell a lie , indicating that they themselves have this plan.

It’s just that we took advantage of this plan by the way during the 5G negotiations, thinking that we have no way to know the truth, so we exaggerated the goal a little bit, and obviously 12 nanometers are not 5 nanometers, trying to fool us.

Who knew that we actually arranged for people to join their organization, does it all make sense when you think about it this way? "

When everyone heard it, it seemed that this was indeed the case, and the old man nodded after hearing it, as he thought.

While others were talking, David was also thinking about this matter. Is it really just like this?This group of Huaxia people is not so easy to deal with based on the experience of previous fights.

So he also put forward his own point of view: "I think we should be more cautious. Think about it, what if they deliberately released false news to us?"

After David finished speaking, some people really began to think about this possibility, but the old man smiled and interrupted with a wave of his hand:

"David, it's because they were frightened by the new energy battery before. We are professionals who arrange information. They are just a company. How could they be able to conduct background checks so clearly.

Besides, we have actually received the 12nm technical information, they have verified it, and it is all true.

Even if according to what you said, they have really discovered it and deliberately lied to us, then do you think they can really make a 5nm chip?In addition, they have to spend a lot of manpower and energy to develop a complete set of materials for 5-nanometer chips that are behind 12-nanometer chips several years in advance, just to fool us on this day?

You study strategy. Are there any stupid strategists in the world?David, you shouldn't have gone to the Ivy League in the first place. You should have been arranged to go to West Point Military Academy to learn what bravery and courage are. "

After the old man finished speaking, everyone roared.

David shook his head inwardly. William was afraid that he would be dazzled by China's compromise on 5G. He forgot how others found three lithium mines overnight, and forgot how others switched from electric vehicles in a few months. The battery life of five or six hundred kilometers has suddenly crossed to 3 kilometers, but he didn't bother to talk about it.

Even though the old man said that, he still had a faint worry in his heart. The extremely low probability event he just said would not really happen, damn Murphy's law.

At this time, the phone rang, and he looked at it. It was Pete, the boss of Black Rock Fund.

Black Rock Fund previously assisted them in raising the futures price in the nickel mine incident, and used it to attack Shanchuan Mining, which is what Pete did.

As a result, Shanchuan Mining's "management is enough" ultimately failed, and Black Rock Fund suffered heavy losses as a result. Pete has been very depressed. After thinking for a long time, he couldn't figure out why the other party suddenly produced 16 tons of pure nickel.

The old man was also curious, this guy seldom called himself, what happened to the sudden call at this time?So I picked it up.

Old man: "I'm in a meeting, what's the matter?"

Pete: "William, do you still remember the nickel futures incident last time? You said you had the opportunity to find a way to compensate me, but nothing has happened yet?"

The old man was a little impatient. He hated not being forced to do things, but these guys had votes in their hands, so it was not easy to offend them directly.

So he said: "When the time comes, I will find a chance for you."

Pete snorted slightly and said, "No need, I found it myself. Hua Wei set up a chip alliance, right?"

The old man replied: "Not bad."

This is public news, and it's normal for him to know.

Pete went on to say: "Their chip alliance claims to make high-end chips, which faintly reveals the meaning of challenging our chip status, so the stocks of the entire Huaxia semiconductor sector have risen sharply because of this.

So, I want to short them and I want to ask your opinion. "

The old man raised his eyelids, and asked half-testingly: "They have such great news, and they have a successful resume of Panda EDA in front of them. Shouldn't you go long to take advantage of the opportunity? Why are you thinking of shorting instead?"

Pete snorted, thinking that this old guy still wanted to hide it from me, and said: "I installed a company into his chip alliance. According to the information obtained, China's development of this round is only a 12-nanometer chip. It is simply incomparable with our 5nm.

When they actually develop it, the stock price will naturally plummet, and of course I have to short a fortune. "

Although the Huaxia A-share market does not have a direct short-selling mechanism, short-selling can be achieved through securities lending and stock index futures.

"Oh? You also placed a company in?" The old man became interested after hearing Pete's words. If the other party also placed a company, then cross-validation can confirm that the other party's chip alliance is only making 12-nanometer chips. The last trace of doubt in his mind was completely dispelled.

Pete heard the voice, it seems that William also placed someone inside, said: "Yes, I installed the light source, and I also received their complete information on matching the 12-nanometer chip light source technology."

The old man smiled and replied: "So do we, so you can go short with confidence, there will be no problem, I hope you can make up for the loss of the nickel futures last time."

Pete said: "Not only do I need to make up for it, but I also want to make a lot of money."

Old man: "Good luck."

Hanging up the phone, he was completely at ease now, and he didn't forget to show off to David: "The Black Rock Fund called, and they also got the news, 12 nanometers, so do you have anything to worry about?"

David could only bow his head in silence.

But at this moment, in a closed meeting room in Huawei, the real China Chip Alliance meeting officially started.

(End of this chapter)