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Chapter 191 Little people come to the end!

Chapter 191 The Little People Come to an End! (Please subscribe!)

Zhou Cheng could actually understand Luo Yun's mood at the moment.

During the previous lectures, Luo Yun also complained, but it was whispered in private. Luo Yun never participated in any Q&A or discussion sessions.

As for what Luo Yun said, Zhou Cheng had also heard it from the mouths of other people next door, and it was even more extreme.

However, everyone has their own fixed circle.

Zhou Cheng's current circle is in the No. [-] Hospital, that is, Cai Dongfan, Luo Yun, and Du Yanjun.

But although there is Luo Yun in his circle, Luo Yun's circle is not quite the same as his own.

Luo Yun is a graduate student of Jiaotong University in Shanghai, which is well known in the department, and even in Hunan Province, many people know about it.

He didn't realize it before, but Associate Professor Zuo Hu of the Affiliated Hospital of Hunan University recognized Luo Yun, and if Luo Yun was in Hunan Province, then the news would definitely not be dismissed as non-existent.

It's just that if he knew that Luo Yun was a student of Professor Zeng Diwei, why would Professor Dong He of Hunan Provincial People's Hospital insist on involving Mr. Zeng in this academic conference? What do you think!
Zhou Cheng secretly glanced at Luo Yun from the corner of his eye, just as he was about to ask something.

Someone stood up from the fifth row in front, and was staring at his mobile phone seriously. After watching for a while, he hurriedly walked from the crowd to the next alleyway, and came straight to the rear.

While walking, he was still counting, muttering: "The second to last row, the first, second, third, and fourth seats on the right hand side!"

While he was counting like this, Zhou Cheng also saw this person's movements, the strange color in his pupils froze for a moment, and he took the initiative to speak: "Dong Yuhai?"

There was a lot of surprise in his tone.

This Dong Yuhai is a classmate of their class and a celebrity in the class, because he had the best grades in the postgraduate entrance examination, the target school for admission, and the best person, not one of them, even in their class , and no one else did better than Dong Yuhai.

He was admitted to Shanghai Jiaotong University, but Zhou Cheng didn't know which affiliated hospital he was in.

Dong Yuhai is of medium build, slightly fat, wearing black-rimmed glasses, short cut, and slightly dark skin.

When he heard someone calling his name, he glanced at Zhou Cheng, and naturally recognized his classmate, that is Zhou Cheng, but he just heard that Zhou Cheng failed the exam, and he didn't know if he took the exam again. Clear.

(Note: This classmate has paved the way for the simulation process before!)
He didn't come here to reminisce about the past, he just nodded slightly to Zhou Cheng, but asked Luo Yun, "Excuse me, is this Teacher Luo Yun? I'm Teacher Liu Yiping's student."

"My name is Dong Yuhai."

When he said this, he was obviously a little nervous.

He was still a student of Liu Yiping in the No. [-] Academy of Shanghai, so he naturally heard about Luo Yun. Luo Yun was still his uncle in terms of seniority.

The reason why Liu Yiping came to participate in the annual meeting of Hunan Province this time was related to Luo Yun. It happened that he was from Hunan Province, so Liu Yiping brought him along instead of the other brothers with PhDs.

Among the graduate students, he is the third researcher, and he is currently a senior student among the students!

When Luo Yun heard Dong Yuhai's self-reported identity, he replied, "Well, you are the Dong Yuhai that Senior Brother Liu mentioned earlier?"

"Well, Teacher Luo!" Dong Yuhai was about to go in when he saw this.

There was still room, the seat where Yang Yifeng was sitting before was still available, it was on Zhou Cheng's left, Zhou Cheng saw that Dong Yuhai was going to sit in, so he moved a seat to the left.

Dong Yuhai still nodded his thanks to Zhou Cheng, but he still didn't reminisce about the past, but sat down and said in a low voice: "Mr. Luo, my teacher told me just now, let me come to you, saying that I want to discuss something with you." .”

Luo Yun nodded, turned his body, and asked Dong Yuhai to sit down.

"Tell me." Luo Yun knew that Liu Yiping also felt that it was not good to make a phone call at this time, and if Liu Yiping stood up and went out at the same time as him to discuss things, he would definitely be interpreted.

"Ms. Luo, my teacher said that Professor Xu is of the older generation. He probably didn't mean to target Mr. Zeng, so I hope Mr. Luo will stop asking questions later. He will ask two questions." Dong Yuhai respectfully Paraphrasing Liu Yiping's words.

As a graduate student of the Ninth Academy of Shanghai, he has naturally participated in no less than [-] academic conferences. There will be many academic disputes in academic conferences like this!
They will argue with each other to show the background of different units. Although they will not directly kill each other, they will not show any affection.

Moreover, Dong Yuhai also said something that could not be passed on to Luo Yun, that is, when he introduced Professor Liu Yiping, he did not deliberately emphasize that Liu Yiping was a student of Academician Zeng Diwei, and that he was in the same team as Zeng Diwei .

Too much emphasis on Academician Zeng Diwei will make it appear that Liu Yiping is useless and only consumes his teacher, and it seems that he has relied on the teacher's shadow to reach his current position.In fact, this is not the case. Professor Liu Yiping's ability is also very outstanding.

Mr. Xu and the others are members of the older generation. People of their generation will not pay too much attention to the younger generation. It would be nice if they have the time and thought to sort out the relationship between the characters of the same generation. How can they care about the students of the same generation? who is it?

But what Mr. Xu said before, there was a suspicion that Zeng Diwei didn't understand principles. He was afraid that Luo Yun would be young and energetic, so he directly opened his mouth.

Liu Yiping can pat his butt and go back to Shanghai. He is still a professor, and he still has Zeng Diwei as his backer.But Luo Yun has already decided to hang out in the circle of Xiang Province, offending Mr. Xu, I am afraid that Luo Yun will be even more difficult to move forward!

Luo Yun's abilities were extraordinary before, but he was still only hovering on the edge of the top three hospitals...

For this reason, Liu Yiping asked his student Dong Yuhai to send a message to Luo Yun, telling Luo Yun not to speak.

Of course he wanted to stand up, if he said in front of him that Zeng Diwei didn't even care about principles, and he didn't open his mouth, then he would be in vain!
Hearing this, Luo Yun took a deep breath and said, "Okay, I understand, thank you for your hard work, Xiao Dong."

Dong Yuhai waved his hands and continued to nod: "No hard work, no hard work, Mr. Luo."

She tried her best to show her kindness to Luo Yun, showing a sincere smile.He knew that he would not be able to get a doctorate, and there was no doctorate to study, so he applied for the doctoral programs in three places: our school, Yueshan University, and Shonan University, but he has not yet been able to get in touch with the doctoral supervisor.

The number of doctorate places and pit positions is far lower than the number of graduate students, even an order of magnitude reduction!
It is estimated that it is enough to suspend. In the future, he might have to go back to his hometown in Hunan Province to work. Liu Yiping mentioned to Dong Yuhai that if he wants to come back to find a good job, he might need his uncle to help him a little bit. It's better to speak next.

In fact, Dong Yuhai has long wanted to know Luo Yun, but he just didn't have the opportunity!

Luo Yun didn't reply, he just looked at his nose, nose and mouth, and his mouth and heart.

Just tapping the table with his hands.

Seeing this, Dong Yuhai turned his head to Zhou Cheng and said, "Brother Zhou Cheng, hello, long time no see."

"Where is Brother Zhou Cheng studying in graduate school now?"

Dong Yuhai knew Zhou Cheng, but the reason why he knew Zhou Cheng was not because of Zhou Cheng's good grades, but because Dong Yuhai heard that Zhou Cheng often went out to work part-time, went all kinds of adventures, and was able to do nothing. , In fact, he is also a maverick.

What's more, Zhou Cheng is relatively generous and easy-going on weekdays. Although Dong Yuhai feels that his grades are good, he is a little proud.

But in fact, there are not many such ideas, so it is not the kind of renunciation account.

"I didn't pass the exam, and then I took the regular training exam, and now I'm in the No. [-] Hospital for regular training. Now I'm following Mr. Luo." Zhou Cheng didn't mention the things he didn't pass the postgraduate exams a few times, and it's not a glorious thing.

Dong Yuhai nodded, looked at Luo Yun with regret, and continued: "That's really a pity, but it's good to train first. I still don't know if I can graduate on time. After that, you have to train.”

Although Dong Yuhai's grades entered Shanghai Jiaotong University, he failed to be admitted to a professional graduate student, but was transferred to an academic graduate student.

Dong Yuhai was very disappointed at the time, but he didn't give up because he had books to read.

"Brother Dong, you are joking, you are the number one in our grade, how could you fail to graduate?" Zhou Cheng knew that Dong Yuhai must be joking, it is impossible for him to fail to graduate.

"Brother Zhou Cheng, you should call me Dong Yuhai, it sounds too uncomfortable to call me Dong Ge." Dong Yuhai hastily corrected Zhou Cheng's address.

Then, Dong Yuhai chatted with Zhou Cheng for a while, and left with an excuse, his eyes still wandering occasionally on Zhou Cheng's notebook where he was taking notes.

After Dong Yuhai left, Luo Yun spoke up, and turned to Zhou Cheng with an envious expression: "Are you a little envious?"

"Would you like me to introduce you to my senior brother, Professor Liu, as long as you can pass the retest line of Shanghai Jiaotong University, he will accept you."

Luo Yun continued to fool and seduce Zhou Chenglai like a devil.

But Zhou Cheng didn't rush to refuse this time, but said: "Mr. Luo, let me think about it again. It would be great if you can guide the students."

I said so on the lips, but what I thought in my heart was, co-author.

Once before, the classmate I met in Shanghai turned out to be Dong Yuhai?

Dong Yuhai's teacher is Liu Yiping, and during that simulation?

sin sin!

Luo Yun sighed: "How can I take care of graduate students? If I want to take care of graduate students, it will probably take decades. After a few decades, it will be even more out of my turn."

At present, the minimum requirement for graduate tutors and doctoral tutors is a master's degree, which is a limitation of the times. In the early years, postgraduates or even undergraduates could find a good job.

But now, in the medical industry, it is difficult to stay in the top three hospitals in provinces and cities without a doctorate.

Not to mention bringing a graduate student, don't even think about it without a doctorate.

So no matter how bad Luo Yun is, he still wants to get a doctorate, preferably a full-time one. If it doesn't work, he can barely do it on the job, but the gold content of a part-time doctoral student is far less than that of a full-time one.

But it doesn't matter.

Luo Yun continued to shift his attention to Dong He who was giving a lecture, and Zhou Cheng didn't say much.

……

Dong He continued to introduce...

But the next content, everyone almost guessed, nothing more than that they sent the cultured specimens and case data to Academician Zeng's team twice, and conducted a remote video consultation.

The more Dong He said, the more excited he became. After all, today is really Waterloo for Professor Zhu.

No one dared to forget this matter for at least ten years, and even, in the end, it would reach the ears of Academician Zeng——

Academician Zeng may not speak or act.

He can't guarantee whether he is angry or not, but he will definitely be unhappy!

Thinking of this, Dong He continued the tone that I came to ask for advice, and asked earnestly:
"Because of the complexity of this case, I am here today to learn from my colleagues. I don't know if there are any experts and professors who can give more sincere advice on this case!"

Everyone rolled their eyes.

Suggest, suggest shit,
Who dares to speak now?
Liu Yiping is sitting below.

Of course, I dare not suggest, but there are still problems.

For example, there was a person who raised his hand and was called by Zhu Jinshan, stood up and asked:
"Professor Dong, can you tell us in detail how you considered after the patient's first admission and postoperative exudate?"

"Clinically, it is not uncommon for wounds to ooze, and we all must have encountered them."

"No one can guarantee that we will not encounter a situation similar to yours during the operation in the future, so I hope you can pass on some experience."

This is no longer a question, but a real question.

And I was just chatting, I don't know if I hope to cover up the unhappiness that happened before!
Of course, if someone asks a question, he must answer it.

Dong He, as the speaker, is of course very familiar with the whole process of the case,
"In this case, when the exudate first appeared, it looked like pure wound exudate, slightly bloody, and after a few days, it became more like fat liquefaction,"

"And when we were performing debridement and suturing, we saw a subcutaneous cavity, so we performed debridement and drainage. Continuous irrigation,"

"We have strictly aseptically collected the exudate before, during, and after the operation; we have done detailed laboratory inspection and culture of the nature and appearance of the exudate, and found nothing special. It is the same as the exudate we usually see."

"Through this case, we suggest that we must be very careful when encountering exudate in the future, and we must carefully consider such an extreme situation to prevent similar situations from happening again." Dong He talked eloquently!

"Thank you, Professor Dong." The person who asked the question thanked him. From the beginning to the end, he did not identify himself.

And even Zhu Jinshan didn't name the person who asked the question.

However, right after Dong He finished his question and answer, Professor Liu Yiping in front raised his hand again!
Zhu Jinshan could use Dong He's continued introduction as an excuse after he finished his answer, but he can't always use this as an excuse.And in the last question and answer session, he bypassed Liu Yiping.

Always bypassing, there will be problems, so Zhu Jinshan can only bite the bullet and call Professor Liu Yiping's name.

"Please pass the microphone over to Professor Liu Yiping. Professor Liu should have something to say." Zhu Jinshan said.

The people sitting next to Liu Yiping in the audience rolled their eyes, was this sloppy?
Originally, they had a lot of questions to ask about this case, but it was just because everyone knew each other when it came out, so naturally they didn't want to talk too much. In order to save Liu Yiping's face, they didn't raise their hands.

A suspicion of watching the excitement from the other side!
Liu Yiping finally got the microphone he was thinking about, stood up, and opened politely:
"Thank you, Professor Dong, for bringing us such a special case and introducing us the experience of handling such a rare case. I believe that the reason why Professor Dong brought up such a case is also due to intense psychological struggle."

"Although Professor Dong is well-prepared, he is rigorous and skilled in the diagnosis and treatment process of the cases."

"But me? I'm still listening, and there are some things I don't quite understand. I hope Professor Dong can teach me a thing or two!"

"Professor Liu, ask." Dong He bowed slightly, took two steps back, with a smile all over his face, and his tone was extremely polite!
He had a video discussion with Academician Zeng Diwei's team. How could he not recognize Professor Liu Yiping?
He actually didn't know that Professor Liu Yiping would come, and the ppt he originally prepared was not like this, and even the content of the case shared in the report was not like this. He just took out this special case after seeing Professor Liu Yiping. from!

Dong He did it on purpose.

Professor Liu Yiping paused, and after organizing his language a bit, he turned around and said respectfully:
"Before, Professor Song from the Second Affiliated Hospital of Shonan University, Senior Song said such a sentence."

"The doctors in the radiology department are only responsible for the preliminary reading of the plain films and give a detailed report. Our orthopedic doctors are the ones who take care of the last pass."

"You have to believe the report of the radiology department, and you certainly can't believe it all, right?"

Dong He nodded.

I just felt a little astonished, because what Professor Liu Yiping said didn't seem to be a problem?Isn't that what Professor Liu Yiping should ask?

It was because this direction and point exceeded Dong He's expectations, so Dong He's heart beat a little faster. Professor Liu Yiping, you are really picking on me, right?Did Professor Xu and Zhu Jinshan just pass by?
Professor Liu Yiping continued: "It's the same, we don't mention other departments. Our joint surgery always encounters various problems in other departments. We will ask for consultation!"

"So, when we ask for a consultation, do we ask them to help us solve the problems we encounter during the operation, or ask them to assess the risks of the operation and ask the consulting department for specialized diagnosis and treatment?"

"So? When Academician Zeng gave the remote consultation opinion, Professor Dong He, did you use it for direct embezzlement, for reference, or for direct execution?"

"It is better to have no books than to believe in books." Liu Yiping added this sentence at the end!
The voice fell, and the scene became quiet again!

Silence is like a disease, which spreads widely and can be heard when a needle falls.

Many people began to breathe rapidly.

Professor Liu Yiping's question can no longer be described as sharp!
Professor Liu Yiping clearly pointed out that what Academician Zeng gave was a consultation opinion.

Consultation opinion, is for reference only?It's not an order, do you have any brains?Are you a professor?
If you're a doctor and you just do what you're told, what kind of professor are you?
The remote consultation opinion means that Academician Zeng did not see the patient in person, did not conduct a physical examination in person, did not participate in the previous diagnosis and treatment decisions, and did not personally participate in all the patient's course of disease.

Without the above, it would be impossible to know the progress and current level of the patient's condition well by relying on the so-called case and medical record data. You are his attending and doctor in charge, and you regard the words of Academician Zeng as an imperial decree?

If this is the case, then just build a remote consultation platform. Why do we need so many hospitals?

Soul torture.

refer to?
Why don't you refer to the actual reality?

If executed directly.

Then your diagnosis and treatment process is very problematic.

Of course, Professor Liu Yiping's words don't just mean this?

He also combined what Professor Song said before, and they all saw the previous things with their own eyes.
You can't expect a radiologist to know as much about orthopedics as an orthopedic surgeon!

Naturally, one cannot ask Academician Zeng, who has never seen the patient, to understand the patient's condition as well as Dong He and the others!

If Dong He had only made a reference, he would not have put this thing on a slide to talk about it, and even brought it out to the annual orthopedic meeting to talk about it, using Zeng Diwei as a knife to design Zhu Jinshan!
Next to Liu Yiping, when Chen Xueliang heard this question, his eyelids twitched.

First, the question that Professor Liu Yiping just asked would not involve any reputation of his master, Academician Zeng, even if he went to his master, he would appreciate this question a lot.

Critical thinking combined with reality!
This is the most important quality in learning!
Who dares to say wrong?
Second, similarly, this question directly wiped away the embarrassment caused by Professor Zhu's question before. Instead, all the pressure was transferred to Dong He, and also to the Provincial People's Hospital. ...

In an instant, Dong He's back and vest were covered with sweat, and he couldn't find the right words to answer for a while!

The fine sweat on the forehead also began to condense slowly, and began to spread.

But he only hesitated for more than ten seconds before replying, "Thank you Professor Liu for your question."

"As I said before, we refer to the opinions of Academician Zeng and combine the patient's own wishes. It is the patient and his family who carefully choose joint fusion according to their own family conditions and their own tolerance for prognosis."

"They hope that they can sacrifice joint mobility in exchange for savings in medical costs."

"Although I also know that the best treatment for patients is a win-win situation. But what kind of treatment is not decided by our doctors, but the patient's own choice."

"Believe this, all the comrades present have a deep understanding, right?"

Dong He's answer was very beautiful, and it diverted everyone's attention well.

He shifted the problem from the doctor to the patient!

Which doctor has not encountered a strange case?
Even a little too much, even the time of entering the operating room and the time of leaving the operating room have to be discussed and determined with you.It is said that I have asked the master to tell my fortune, when to go in and when to come out, it is absolutely safe, and it can guarantee great wealth.

Then there are cases where the master was hit in the afternoon...

After Dong He replied tremblingly and bit the bullet.

Professor Liu Yiping said again: "Thank you, Professor Dong, for your answer. I'm being greedy today, so I'll ask one more question."

"I just want to ask Professor Dong, since you are only referring to it during the diagnosis and treatment process, where did you refer to the guide? Whose plan did you refer to, when was the guideline? When was the plan?"

After Liu Yiping finished speaking, he put down the microphone and quietly looked at Dong He on the stage, without looking in Zhu Jinshan's direction!

However, Professor Liu Yiping's words were like a sharp sword, reaching out to Professor Xu, Zhu Jinshan and other people in the Affiliated Hospital of Shonan University!
It cannot be said that an academician's consultation opinion is more credible than the current general knowledge of everyone!
This is absolutely impossible? !
No academician has ever had such an idea.

No one would talk like that.

But, let me ask, since academicians can't go against the principles and guidelines?So where should you refer to the guide?Who's plan?
Only in this way can we treat this kind of complicated knee joint infection well, and at the same time, what is the cost of the patient?
Combined with the last sentence of the previous question.

It is better to have no books than to believe in books!
Do you think for yourself?

You know, the total time of Dong He's lecture is only 10 minutes.

15 minutes for sharing, 5 minutes for Q&A.

Before Liu Yiping stood up, Professor Zhu's greetings and old Professor Xu's words of support were still lingering in everyone's ears:
"First of all, I'm not here to ask questions."

"Second, no matter what kind of expert or academician they are, they must have the most sufficient evidence before they can perform surgery."

"In your case, no matter what the situation is, joint cleaning and revision are the best choices. Even if Academician Zeng is standing in front of me now, that's the reason."

So, on the surface, it seems that Liu Yiping is targeting and embarrassing Dong He, but in fact he is pointing his sword at other places.

Pointing at Sang and scolding Huai, who wouldn't be able to come to this venue?

Who can understand?

Dong He didn't answer Liu Yiping's question after a few seconds.

There was no way to answer, but Liu Yiping looked at him, and he could only bite the bullet and say, "Professor Liu, I really can't answer this question for you. Because we searched all the guidelines before the operation, All the principles of standardized treatment have not found a clear definition of what happened in this case!"

"Our surgical plan and decision were made on the spur of the moment after extensive discussions in the department."

"If you have to talk about a guideline and principle, then it is individualized treatment. According to the patient's situation, be ready to respond at any time. I don't know how Professor Liu will make a choice when he encounters such a problem?"

Dong He threw the question back, begging for mercy in the middle of the song, let's let this topic go, shall we?

Liu Yiping said: "Thank you, Professor Dong, for your answer. For this patient, I will try my best to consider social and economic factors and choose joint fusion or amputation!"

"Even if it's cruel!"

Professor Liu Yiping sat down again after speaking.

However, Professor Liu Yiping, after sitting down, Professor Xu and Professor Song, including Professor Kong, felt like they were sitting on pins and needles.They raised their hands one after another, as if they wanted to chase after Dong He and continue to ask questions.

But in fact, everyone knows their purpose is to answer Professor Liu Yiping's question.

Seeing this scene, Dong He suddenly felt a catastrophe coming!

If, today, old seniors like Professor Liu Yiping and Professor Song had a fight, then he would be standing on the edge of a knife, on the cusp of the storm, with no one left or right. He already regretted bringing this case up. His original intention was not so……

Professor Zhu Jinshan also has the same thoughts as Liu Yiping.

He was also hilarious, that's why he fell into Dong He's pit. Fortunately, Professor Xu helped him, but now?

It seems that Professor Xu also fell into the pit because of "Happy mouth".

Now, there is no winner in this invisible struggle!

In the end, if Liu Yiping wins, the old professors will think that Liu Yiping is aggressive and come to make trouble!At this age, they have long since given up clinical practice, and only want to spend the rest of their lives in peace.

When you come to an academic conference, you are here to support the scene, not to compete for fame and fortune.

But not to mess with filth either.

Old people have the same name! ~
But if several old professors win in the end and insist on arguing for right or wrong on the consultation opinions of Academician Zeng Diwei, then Mr. Zeng may not personally end the case and bring the case to the orthopedics department half a month later. Talk at the annual meeting.

Let colleagues from all over the country come and comment on a right or wrong!
At that time, it will be even more difficult to end this matter. Although this possibility is very low, it is not ruled out.

As the chairman of the conference, Zhu Jinshan's scalp was a little numb, so he asked, "Professor Kang, the case brought by Professor Dong today is still very impactful, but because of time constraints, why don't we put the academic discussion together?" Things, put it in the tea break of the first and second quarters in the second half of the conference?"

Although Zhu Jinshan was interrupting, old Professor Xu still insisted on standing up and asking the staff for a microphone.

The staff was also very helpless, looked at Zhu Jinshan, and in the end, they could only pass the microphone to Professor Xu!

After Professor Xu took the microphone, he looked directly at Professor Liu Yiping: "Professor Liu, I still have some questions to ask you about your question just now."

"Individualized treatment, this is a common topic in all medical disciplines, that's right."

"Even, I can boldly say that the guidelines we think are [-]% wrong, and none of them are right. Even the indications and contraindications we follow are actually wrong."

"Then can we not abide by it?"

"The cases we encounter in reality will not be written according to textbooks and guidelines, so is our random treatment advisable and correct?"

"If all treatments are understood according to individualized treatment, then who will guarantee the rights and interests of patients in the end?"

"If there is no objective criterion, will we doctors be wrong at any time in the process of practicing medicine?"

"Our medical law stipulates that we have the right and the obligation to provide patients with the best medical resources and best medical advice. We must guarantee the lives and health of the masses!"

"Then we don't need to refer to it?"

"Wouldn't it be useful to refer to an existing guide without having the same guide?"

"Joint infection, even complicated infection, is not an absolute indication for joint fusion, is it?"

Mr. Xu knew that Professor Liu Yiping's words were aimed at him, so he fought back one by one.

It even brought the topic to a very high level all at once. Without guidelines, can you not follow the guidelines?
It is better to have no books than to believe in books, so why don't you read books?
……

When Mr. Xu asked back, Zhou Chengcheng noticed that Luo Yun was frowning at the moment, as if he was thinking about how to reply.

Because many pitfalls were left in Professor Xu's question, he didn't know if Liu Yiping noticed it.

Luo Yun looked at Liu Yiping's movements with a little worry, as if he was worried that Liu Yiping would raise his hand soon. This question actually requires a little more careful thinking.

Seeing Luo Yun's troubled expression, Zhou Chengcheng whispered in Luo Yun's ear for a while.

After Luo Yun heard it, he immediately looked at Zhou Cheng in astonishment: "Is that appropriate?"

Zhou Cheng then said: "Mr. Luo, if this doesn't calm down, it won't do any good to start a fight. This is actually just a misunderstanding. We can only calm things down first, and we can talk slowly later."

Luo Yun immediately stood up when he heard the words, and then waved to the staff member holding the microphone.

But the staff, all graduate students, walked towards Luo Yun, but they didn't dare to pass the microphone to Luo Yun. They just stood beside Luo Yun, looked at Zhu Jinshan, and waited for his instructions and orders!
Zhu Jinshan's head is getting bigger now, Liu Yiping first made the topic of Dong He's provocation reach the explosive point, and now Luo Yun comes again.

And these two happened to be Zeng Diwei's students, you can't do it unless you call him, he's just big-headed.

Who knows what Luo Yun is going to say now?
However, in the end, Zhu Jinshan still couldn't bear everyone's gaze, so he could only temporarily stop the idea of ​​the next speaker giving a lecture, and then said, "I invite Dr. Luo from the Eighth Hospital."

As Zhu Jinshan was speaking, he saw that Professor Liu Yiping paused when he was about to stand up after hearing him tell Luo Yun to speak, and then turned around to look back.

I saw that after Luo Yun took the microphone, he said calmly: "Professor Zhu, Professor Dong, in fact, I personally think that the debate between Professor Liu and Senior Xu just now was a little one-sided. "

"First of all, all of our guidelines and principles are designed to protect patients' right to life and health, while at the same time guaranteeing the rights and interests of our doctors themselves at special times!"

"In this particular case, I think arthrodesis is a good option as a bridge between debridement of septic arthritis of the knee and knee resurfacing surgery."

"Professors must know that the curative effect of arthrodesis on joint infection is very obvious. This is a classic joint infection treatment."

"Only in recent years, we have gradually abandoned it because of the adverse consequences of a significant decline in the quality of life of patients caused by it!"

"It is undeniable that other aspects of our modern medicine have developed rapidly. For example, our joint replacement and arthroplasty have developed into a brand new field."

"At this time, it's actually a cliché. It's advisable to bring some operations that we have given up to the operating table as a transition. After all, its curative effect is real."

"Compared with the high cost of multiple debridement and drainage and the use of special antibiotics, fusion is indeed economical and affordable! This is undeniable."

"However, a short-term loss of function can reduce a patient's financial burden to a level they can bear. This is actually the meaning of our doctors. When objective conditions are limited, we can find a unique way to deal with it. "

"Joint replacement after joint fusion is a bit more complicated, but it is also a good choice. Under sterile conditions, it is not difficult to perform joint replacement and reshape joint function."

"Of course we must respect the rules Professor Xu said."

"Professor Liu's individualized treatment plan, we also have to adopt it!"

"Professor Xu, Professor Liu, what do you two think?" Luo Yun looked at the two with a smile.

The thinking of adults, solving things is far more important than making things big, and fighting for fame and fortune for yourself. This is not just a simple mess!
It's a compromise, no one is right, no one is right.

By the way, I also pretended to be a coward, this is the best of all three things.

After listening to Luo Yun's words, Professor Xu had a feeling that he wanted to beat him. What is arthroplasty after joint fusion? It is not difficult to reshape joint function.
Who are you?
Of course, I thought so in my heart, since the young doctor left a retreat for both of them, and found such a compromise, he would not accept it, insisting on saying right or wrong.

The reason why I want to talk about right and wrong is because of Zhu Jinshan's mouth. As a senior at Shonan University, he must of course protect him. Otherwise, if today's incident is spread, how can he mess around outside?
Even Zhu Jinshan is not easy to get along with in the provincial circle.

Liu Yiping was also very satisfied with the result. In the end, it was Luo Yun who came forward to solve Professor Xu's problem. Come forward, he will not come to fight this pioneer.

The transition from joint fusion to joint replacement is such a wonderful idea that ordinary people really can't think of it. Luo Yun's brain circuit is also a bit problematic.

Because after joint fusion, there are not many joint replacements.

Patients don't know how to do it, and few people dare to do it, but Liu Yiping really doesn't know if Luo Yun can do it, because he can't figure out the details of his junior brother. When he was at Zeng Diwei's place before, Luo Yun took Just do the surgery.

I haven't had any problems, I just feel bottomless...

When Zhu Jinshan heard Luo Yun's words, the corners of his mouth twitched for a while, and he quickly said, "Thank you Doctor Luo for your answer, and thank you Professor Liu and Teacher Xu for your wonderful questions. Let us relive the classic surgery and the new surgery. turn around."

"Today's academic feast is definitely a gluttonous feast, but the more delicious ones are yet to come..."

When he said this, he glanced at Sao Luoyun, and cursed in his heart: Damn, I took the bad name of being loud by myself, and I was forced to be faked by others.

Just fucking...

The crowd started to commotion and began to discuss, where is the Eighth Hospital?

After joint fusion, can you still send patients there?

Dr. Luo...

Luo Yun sat down. Next to him, Zhou Cheng continued to sit upright, opened a new page in his notebook, and carefully wrote down the topic of the speaker. This scene made Luo Yun want to pinch Zhou Cheng to death. impulse...

With your ability, how can you still take these notes?

What do you think?

I'm afraid everyone present didn't know that the fight between old professor Xu and his senior brother was caused by Zhou Cheng!
An abandoned technique has become a transfer station...

However, Zhou Cheng didn't notice Luo Yun's eyes. He rubbed his tired hands seriously, then quickly pricked up his ears and listened carefully.

 Starting tomorrow, we are going to go to trial work, and the amount of updates will be reduced in the future!
  
 
(End of this chapter)

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