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Chapter 161 The Opportunity of Prairie City
Chapter 161 The Opportunity to Return to Grassland City
After a long time, the applause from the meeting gradually subsided.
After the applause completely subsided, Dean Wang asked, "Professor Sun, how many gastric cancer patients do you need to participate in this project?"
Professor Sun thought for a while and said: "Each group of syndrome types should not be less than 100 people, the number is small, and the clinical data is not convincing."
Everyone below the podium took a deep breath when they heard that each group needed 100 people.
For a while, the meeting room fell into a chaotic atmosphere, and the experts and scholars below started discussing with each other in twos and threes.
After the discussion became quieter, Dean Wang continued: "One group consists of 100 people, and six groups are 600 people. However, no one knows what type of gastric cancer the patient is before the four-diagnosis combined with dialectics. With a scale of 600 people with different types of syndromes, the number of patients participating in this project must be far greater than [-], or even reach the scale of [-]."
Dean Wang stared at Professor Sun and asked: "Since now, there has never been such a large-scale clinical topic of traditional Chinese medicine. Professor Sun, have you considered how many people a team is needed to satisfy a project with a scale of one thousand people?" Do you need it? Where do you go to find so many doctors who specialize in TCM tumor treatment?"
Hearing Dean Wang's question, the participants below started whispering and discussing again.
After the discussion became quieter, Professor Sun replied: "When we were designing the project, we estimated that the number of members of the research team should not be less than [-] doctors, but each doctor does not have to be a doctor who is proficient in tumor treatment. I will Provide a unified treatment plan for each syndrome group. Each syndrome group only needs to lead a doctor who is proficient in TCM tumors. The other syndrome group members do not need such high requirements. Only the four diagnosis and ginseng can identify the syndrome. That's it."
"As for the problem of personnel, I plan to cooperate with several Chinese medicine universities to do this project together."
When Professor Sun first planned to do this project, he found that to do this project, even with all the strength of the Tumor Research Institute, it was impossible to complete it, and even the strength of the Research Institute could only be said to be reluctant.
Only then did Professor Sun realize how difficult it is to experiment with evidence-based medicine in traditional Chinese medicine.
In later generations, various centers of evidence-based medicine have sprung up, leading to the dispersion of research efforts.The strength of each evidence-based medicine center is also uneven, and the strength in clinical research and methodological research is still very weak.In addition, due to the lack of top-level design at the national level, the division of labor and functions of various institutions are unclear, and no joint force for collaborative innovation has been formed, which is not conducive to the output and transformation of high-quality evidence.
This has also caused the popularity of evidence-based medicine in traditional Chinese medicine to remain high, but it is difficult to produce results. The results are evidence-based in traditional Chinese medicine, not evidence-based for a certain disease. It can only be said that evidence-based verification of traditional Chinese medicine requires There are too many doctors.
With the assistance of modern monitoring equipment, western medicine can manage thousands or tens of thousands of experimenters at the same time in a small-scale research group.
The size of the Chinese medicine research group is directly proportional to the number of experimenters. The larger the number of experimenters, the larger the size of the research group. Basically, the ratio of one to twenty should be maintained.
This is why the progress of evidence-based medicine in traditional Chinese medicine is so slow. Compared with evidence-based medicine in western medicine, the number of participants in evidence-based medicine in traditional Chinese medicine is much higher than that in western medicine.
Evidence-based experiments on diseases in traditional Chinese medicine cannot be completed by a professor with a few students, let alone a major. It needs to use all the strength of the school level to complete it, but it is impossible for that school to do it for a project. Use all the scientific research strength of the school.
If you want to practice evidence-based Chinese medicine, you must unite and concentrate efforts from multiple institutions to accomplish major tasks, but it is easy to say, but difficult to do.
Professor Sun insisted on being a pioneer. The purpose was to use the influence of the research institute to integrate a part of the strength of evidence-based medical research through the first evidence-based project of Chinese medicine at the time when evidence-based medicine in traditional Chinese medicine was just emerging, and to establish a cooperation model. Laying a foundation for the development of TCM evidence-based medicine is also my final contribution to the development of TCM before retirement.
As soon as they heard that they needed to cooperate with the university, there was a heated discussion below the podium.
Dean Wang took advantage of the discussion below to meditate for a while. Although the members of the research group can jointly solve the problems with the school, they are facing new problems. Traditional Chinese medicine has never had such a large-scale project. One more question.
Although the China Academy of Traditional Chinese Medicine has its own hospital, it cannot free up more than 1000 hospital beds. If it does so, all three hospitals will be paralyzed.
Dean Wang asked: "Professor Sun, more than 1000 test participants are more than 1000 hospital beds. How do you arrange these patients?"
Professor Sun explained: "Since the project is a joint project with colleges, my design is that each college participating in the project is responsible for a syndrome group, and the hospital affiliated hospital of the college will handle the hospitalization of patients in this syndrome group. "
Hearing that Professor Sun asked the joint college to solve the patient's hospitalization problem by itself, the discussion below became louder than ever.
Some institutions have already withdrawn because the subject will occupy a large number of their already tense hospital beds and affect the income of hospitals and schools.
Those who are short-sighted will naturally have long-term vision. These people have already buried their thoughts in their hearts.
Don't look at the loud discussions at the scene, but everyone has their own thoughts in their hearts.
Huang Su in the back row heard his opportunity to return to Grassland City.
Regardless of the fact that there are three hospitals directly under the China Academy of Traditional Chinese Medicine, there are really no spare beds for Professor Sun.
The topic was proposed by Professor Sun, so naturally he was also responsible for a pattern.
It just so happened that Grassland City had already started construction of a new inpatient area in order to be rated as a top-three hospital, adding [-] beds. When I came to the capital, I had already completed the interior decoration.
As long as Huang Su told Briggood about this matter, with Briggood's utilitarian character, he would absolutely agree with it with both hands and feet.
A major scientific research project landed in the Grassland People's Hospital, and this year's top three rating can be said to be sure, not to mention how much such a great political achievement will bring him in his career.
Huang Su began to plan in his heart how to tell Professor Sun about this matter.
Huang Su basically didn't listen to the later project defense.
Until Zhang Yuan pushed himself: "Huang Su, why are you in a daze, the meeting is over."
Only then did Huang Su regain his senses, and began to look around, looking for Chen Jingshan in the conference room.
It wasn't until he looked at the door that he saw Chen Jingshan standing with Professor Sun, and beside him was President Cao of Heilongjiang University of Traditional Chinese Medicine.
Zhang Yuan patted Huang Su again and said: "Hey, what is Huang Su looking for, it's time to go!"
Huang Su then got up and left the meeting room with Zhang Yuan and Wei Lai.
"Teacher, tutor!"
Walking to the door, Huang Suxian greeted Chen Jingshan and Professor Sun and asked, "Teacher, why are you here? Don't tell me when you are here, so I can pick you up!"
"Why can't I come? Don't forget who gave your tutor the newspaper." Chen Jingshan patted Huang Su's shoulder and encouraged: "You didn't disappoint me, now you are Lao Sun's student, We must learn from Lao Sun well."
"Teacher, I understand!" Huang Su looked at Chen Jingshan and Professor Sun and said, "Teacher, tutor! Then we will go back to the office first."
Professor Sun said: "Okay, you guys go back first!"
"Okay, you go back first, I have something to talk to your mentor about."
Chen Jingshan spoke only after Professor Sun finished speaking, after all, he had to take care of Professor Sun's emotions.
After Huang Su left, she heard Principal Cao asking about how to work together on the project behind her.
Huang Su turned her head, glanced at President Cao, and directed at President Cao's insight into academics. No wonder he later became the president of the China Academy of Chinese Medical Sciences.
At the beginning of the project design, Professor Sun proposed to cooperate with colleges and universities, and Huang Su was skeptical that there would be colleges and universities willing to cooperate.
These universities are very arrogant, who would be willing to contribute in vain.It also needs to be a green leaf for others.
Seeing that some colleges took the initiative to contact Professor Sun, Huang Su finally let go of her heart.
It can only be said that Huang Su still underestimated Professor Sun's influence in the Chinese medicine field.
Underestimates the benefits that institutions can achieve from this program.
As Professor Sun said, if the whole test of a syndrome is carried out in a certain school, it means that the whole process of participation is dominated by the school, and the first-hand test data can be obtained for the school. Carry out evidence-based medical research to provide practical experience and data reference.
Even if the project fails, it can improve the school's level of tumor treatment. Who doesn't know that Professor Sun is a well-known TCM tumor expert in the country.
This wave is definitely not a loss.
(End of this chapter)
After a long time, the applause from the meeting gradually subsided.
After the applause completely subsided, Dean Wang asked, "Professor Sun, how many gastric cancer patients do you need to participate in this project?"
Professor Sun thought for a while and said: "Each group of syndrome types should not be less than 100 people, the number is small, and the clinical data is not convincing."
Everyone below the podium took a deep breath when they heard that each group needed 100 people.
For a while, the meeting room fell into a chaotic atmosphere, and the experts and scholars below started discussing with each other in twos and threes.
After the discussion became quieter, Dean Wang continued: "One group consists of 100 people, and six groups are 600 people. However, no one knows what type of gastric cancer the patient is before the four-diagnosis combined with dialectics. With a scale of 600 people with different types of syndromes, the number of patients participating in this project must be far greater than [-], or even reach the scale of [-]."
Dean Wang stared at Professor Sun and asked: "Since now, there has never been such a large-scale clinical topic of traditional Chinese medicine. Professor Sun, have you considered how many people a team is needed to satisfy a project with a scale of one thousand people?" Do you need it? Where do you go to find so many doctors who specialize in TCM tumor treatment?"
Hearing Dean Wang's question, the participants below started whispering and discussing again.
After the discussion became quieter, Professor Sun replied: "When we were designing the project, we estimated that the number of members of the research team should not be less than [-] doctors, but each doctor does not have to be a doctor who is proficient in tumor treatment. I will Provide a unified treatment plan for each syndrome group. Each syndrome group only needs to lead a doctor who is proficient in TCM tumors. The other syndrome group members do not need such high requirements. Only the four diagnosis and ginseng can identify the syndrome. That's it."
"As for the problem of personnel, I plan to cooperate with several Chinese medicine universities to do this project together."
When Professor Sun first planned to do this project, he found that to do this project, even with all the strength of the Tumor Research Institute, it was impossible to complete it, and even the strength of the Research Institute could only be said to be reluctant.
Only then did Professor Sun realize how difficult it is to experiment with evidence-based medicine in traditional Chinese medicine.
In later generations, various centers of evidence-based medicine have sprung up, leading to the dispersion of research efforts.The strength of each evidence-based medicine center is also uneven, and the strength in clinical research and methodological research is still very weak.In addition, due to the lack of top-level design at the national level, the division of labor and functions of various institutions are unclear, and no joint force for collaborative innovation has been formed, which is not conducive to the output and transformation of high-quality evidence.
This has also caused the popularity of evidence-based medicine in traditional Chinese medicine to remain high, but it is difficult to produce results. The results are evidence-based in traditional Chinese medicine, not evidence-based for a certain disease. It can only be said that evidence-based verification of traditional Chinese medicine requires There are too many doctors.
With the assistance of modern monitoring equipment, western medicine can manage thousands or tens of thousands of experimenters at the same time in a small-scale research group.
The size of the Chinese medicine research group is directly proportional to the number of experimenters. The larger the number of experimenters, the larger the size of the research group. Basically, the ratio of one to twenty should be maintained.
This is why the progress of evidence-based medicine in traditional Chinese medicine is so slow. Compared with evidence-based medicine in western medicine, the number of participants in evidence-based medicine in traditional Chinese medicine is much higher than that in western medicine.
Evidence-based experiments on diseases in traditional Chinese medicine cannot be completed by a professor with a few students, let alone a major. It needs to use all the strength of the school level to complete it, but it is impossible for that school to do it for a project. Use all the scientific research strength of the school.
If you want to practice evidence-based Chinese medicine, you must unite and concentrate efforts from multiple institutions to accomplish major tasks, but it is easy to say, but difficult to do.
Professor Sun insisted on being a pioneer. The purpose was to use the influence of the research institute to integrate a part of the strength of evidence-based medical research through the first evidence-based project of Chinese medicine at the time when evidence-based medicine in traditional Chinese medicine was just emerging, and to establish a cooperation model. Laying a foundation for the development of TCM evidence-based medicine is also my final contribution to the development of TCM before retirement.
As soon as they heard that they needed to cooperate with the university, there was a heated discussion below the podium.
Dean Wang took advantage of the discussion below to meditate for a while. Although the members of the research group can jointly solve the problems with the school, they are facing new problems. Traditional Chinese medicine has never had such a large-scale project. One more question.
Although the China Academy of Traditional Chinese Medicine has its own hospital, it cannot free up more than 1000 hospital beds. If it does so, all three hospitals will be paralyzed.
Dean Wang asked: "Professor Sun, more than 1000 test participants are more than 1000 hospital beds. How do you arrange these patients?"
Professor Sun explained: "Since the project is a joint project with colleges, my design is that each college participating in the project is responsible for a syndrome group, and the hospital affiliated hospital of the college will handle the hospitalization of patients in this syndrome group. "
Hearing that Professor Sun asked the joint college to solve the patient's hospitalization problem by itself, the discussion below became louder than ever.
Some institutions have already withdrawn because the subject will occupy a large number of their already tense hospital beds and affect the income of hospitals and schools.
Those who are short-sighted will naturally have long-term vision. These people have already buried their thoughts in their hearts.
Don't look at the loud discussions at the scene, but everyone has their own thoughts in their hearts.
Huang Su in the back row heard his opportunity to return to Grassland City.
Regardless of the fact that there are three hospitals directly under the China Academy of Traditional Chinese Medicine, there are really no spare beds for Professor Sun.
The topic was proposed by Professor Sun, so naturally he was also responsible for a pattern.
It just so happened that Grassland City had already started construction of a new inpatient area in order to be rated as a top-three hospital, adding [-] beds. When I came to the capital, I had already completed the interior decoration.
As long as Huang Su told Briggood about this matter, with Briggood's utilitarian character, he would absolutely agree with it with both hands and feet.
A major scientific research project landed in the Grassland People's Hospital, and this year's top three rating can be said to be sure, not to mention how much such a great political achievement will bring him in his career.
Huang Su began to plan in his heart how to tell Professor Sun about this matter.
Huang Su basically didn't listen to the later project defense.
Until Zhang Yuan pushed himself: "Huang Su, why are you in a daze, the meeting is over."
Only then did Huang Su regain his senses, and began to look around, looking for Chen Jingshan in the conference room.
It wasn't until he looked at the door that he saw Chen Jingshan standing with Professor Sun, and beside him was President Cao of Heilongjiang University of Traditional Chinese Medicine.
Zhang Yuan patted Huang Su again and said: "Hey, what is Huang Su looking for, it's time to go!"
Huang Su then got up and left the meeting room with Zhang Yuan and Wei Lai.
"Teacher, tutor!"
Walking to the door, Huang Suxian greeted Chen Jingshan and Professor Sun and asked, "Teacher, why are you here? Don't tell me when you are here, so I can pick you up!"
"Why can't I come? Don't forget who gave your tutor the newspaper." Chen Jingshan patted Huang Su's shoulder and encouraged: "You didn't disappoint me, now you are Lao Sun's student, We must learn from Lao Sun well."
"Teacher, I understand!" Huang Su looked at Chen Jingshan and Professor Sun and said, "Teacher, tutor! Then we will go back to the office first."
Professor Sun said: "Okay, you guys go back first!"
"Okay, you go back first, I have something to talk to your mentor about."
Chen Jingshan spoke only after Professor Sun finished speaking, after all, he had to take care of Professor Sun's emotions.
After Huang Su left, she heard Principal Cao asking about how to work together on the project behind her.
Huang Su turned her head, glanced at President Cao, and directed at President Cao's insight into academics. No wonder he later became the president of the China Academy of Chinese Medical Sciences.
At the beginning of the project design, Professor Sun proposed to cooperate with colleges and universities, and Huang Su was skeptical that there would be colleges and universities willing to cooperate.
These universities are very arrogant, who would be willing to contribute in vain.It also needs to be a green leaf for others.
Seeing that some colleges took the initiative to contact Professor Sun, Huang Su finally let go of her heart.
It can only be said that Huang Su still underestimated Professor Sun's influence in the Chinese medicine field.
Underestimates the benefits that institutions can achieve from this program.
As Professor Sun said, if the whole test of a syndrome is carried out in a certain school, it means that the whole process of participation is dominated by the school, and the first-hand test data can be obtained for the school. Carry out evidence-based medical research to provide practical experience and data reference.
Even if the project fails, it can improve the school's level of tumor treatment. Who doesn't know that Professor Sun is a well-known TCM tumor expert in the country.
This wave is definitely not a loss.
(End of this chapter)
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