Man Tanghong
Chapter 767
Li Yuanji didn't answer in a hurry, but asked instead: "Father thinks, besides the Turks, what other great enemies do we have in the Tang Dynasty?"
Li Yuan's eyes widened all of a sudden, with a look of cursing.
That's all for the sake of it, what else is there besides a wealthy family?
However, Li Yuan still didn't curse out loud after all, but just said angrily, "A wealthy family!"
Li Yuanji nodded and said, "That's right, it's a wealthy family. Then my father thinks, how should we eliminate them when the wealthy families cannot be attracted?"
Li Yuan frowned again, the look of wanting to curse was no longer on his face, replaced by a solemn and pensive expression.
After a long time, Li Yuan said in a heavy and helpless voice, "There is no other way but to wear it down bit by bit."
After all, a wealthy family is not a cat or a dog, and it is not something you can eliminate if you want to.
As long as they don't cause any harm to Datang, and keep themselves safe and don't violate any laws of Datang, you really have nothing to do with them.
In addition, most of the knowledge of Datang is in the hands of others, and most of the talents of Datang are also in the hands of others.
If Datang wants to develop and grow stronger, it cannot do without others.
They have already spread their influence to all aspects of Datang through the knowledge and talents they have in their hands.
Therefore, without a reasonable reason and a reasonable excuse, Datang has no way to use violence against others.
Once it moves, it will arouse public anger and cause backlash from all aristocratic families.
Therefore, if Datang wants to eliminate others, it can only plan it slowly, using time to nibble away bit by bit.
Other than that, there is no other way.
Li Yuanji stared at Li Yuan and asked again, "Then father thinks, can my Tang Dynasty kill them bit by bit?"
Li Yuan opened his mouth, wanting to say 'yes', but when the words came to his lips, he didn't have the courage to say them.
He is still alive, and when his sons are still alive, they may be able to unanimously and unanimously kill and erode the control and influence of the wealthy family over Datang.
But after he died and his sons died, he couldn't guarantee whether his grandsons, or even great-grandchildren, could implement this point.
After all, when he was alive, he couldn't control his sons, which made his sons fight endlessly, and they were almost brothers. After he died, his grandchildren and great-grandchildren were even less likely to be controlled by him.
At that time, even if he and his sons keep the best national policy, even if they write the strategy against the wealthy family into a booklet, so that the grandsons and great-grandchildren don't have to use their brains and do it according to the book, the grandson and great-grandchildren will not He may not be able to listen, and there may even be Ni Sun and Ni great grandson, overthrowing everything he and his sons have set, and supporting the wealthy family again.
So he didn't have the confidence to say 'can'.
"What do you think, just say it, don't try to trick me here!"
Li Yuan glared at Li Yuanji again, and shouted impatiently.
He's not the impatient kind of person, he just doesn't like listening to his son tease him.
In his opinion, they are all a family, and they should have something to say when they get together, instead of trying to play tricks and do things that go around.
Li Yuanji pursed his lips in secret, and he didn't show any more, "It seems that my father also knows that it is impossible to wipe out the rich and powerful families just by the generations of my Tang Dynasty.
Because what we think is right and what we are doing, our successors may not necessarily think it is right, and they may not necessarily follow suit.
In addition, once the aristocratic and wealthy families have a solid foundation in my Tang Dynasty and become a giant, our successors may not have the courage to oppose them.
Therefore, we must clear away the rich and powerful families in our two generations, and leave a clean and non-threatening country to our children and grandchildren. "
Li Yuan nodded in agreement, and even Li Jiancheng and Li Shimin, who were listening on the sidelines, subconsciously nodded in agreement.
But Li Yuan still urged impatiently: "Hurry up and tell me what you are going to do, don't talk about such irrelevant nonsense!"
It doesn't matter? !
Li Yuanji didn't know whether to cry or laugh.
Li Yuan really thinks he's upright, if you really think these are all nonsense, then why are you nodding?
However, Li Yuanji didn't bother with Li Yuan, and continued: "A sage once said that if there is an opportunity, we will take advantage of it, and if there is no opportunity, we will create it.
We don't want to see aristocratic families grow big, and we don't want to see this cancer of aristocratic families continue to affect the country of Datang, and we don't want to leave this cancer of aristocratic families to future generations.
Then we have to create opportunities, lead them to make mistakes, and lead them to show their flaws.
Therefore, it is justifiable to use strong means to eradicate them.
I asked Uncle Shentong Wang and others to set up martial arts in various places, which is one of them.
Let cousin Xiaogong and Su Dingfang introduce them to water and sea transportation is the second. "
Hearing this, Li Yuan fell into deep thought.
Li Jiancheng and Li Shimin were also pondering, looking thoughtful.
After a long time, Li Shimin asked suddenly: "Do you want to use martial arts to break the control of the aristocratic family's knowledge?"
Li Yuanji nodded and said, "Not bad..."
Li Shimin frowned and said, "With only one martial art, it may be difficult to break the control of the aristocratic family's knowledge. If we set up elementary schools in various places, or expand government schools in various places to recruit poor students, it may be possible..."
Li Yuanji smiled and said: "The second brother is right, but the second brother did not consider the influence of the wealthy family in various places. With them, even if Mengxue is established, it will only become their private property. They will turn Mengxue into a To become a school that only accepts the children of their families and the children of their relatives, it is impossible for the children of poor people to get started.
More importantly, even if we force them to take in the children of poor people, they will select the best from among the best, take them into the sect, and then use the power behind them to recommend them to become officials.
In this way, the elementary schools we set up are equivalent to making wedding dresses for them.
The same is true of government schools everywhere. "
Li Shimin frowned all of a sudden, and said in a deep voice, "Then what if we use the former imperial examination to select scholars?"
Li Yuanji laughed and said: "It's useless to use any method of selecting scholars on this basis..."
They pinched the tip when they were in elementary school. Don't talk about taking the imperial examination to get scholars. Even if you go to various places to get scholars in person, the people who are selected are still from other people.
In the process of pinching the top, even if there are some omissions, they can still pinch a few more waves in the process of recommending from the Mongolian school to the county school, and from the county school to the imperial school.
Moreover, when people control the place and affect the government and the public, those who are not pinched by others, or those who are rebellious and unwilling to attach to others, no matter how talented they are, they can be suppressed and not let them stand out.
What's more, even if there were one or two lucky ones, they broke through many obstacles, appeared in Taixue, and even passed the imperial examination.
People can also corrupt them with money and seduce them with beauty after they pass the exam, and pull them into their camp.
Even if he blocks the temptation, he will be easily manipulated and played to death in a court full of his own people.
Is Wei Zheng talented enough?
In the pre-Sui Dynasty, there was no chance to stand out at all. In the troubled times at the end of the Sui Dynasty, it was only after following several lords that they showed their talents.
In this way, he was reused only after he married a wife from an aristocratic family.
Although Wei Zheng was poor as a young man, he even worked as a Taoist priest for his livelihood, but Wei Zheng's family background is not comparable to that of the children of poor families.
His grandfather was the governor of Guangzhou during the Northern Wei Dynasty, and his father was the county magistrate of Shangdang Tunliu during the Northern Qi Dynasty. If you look at it carefully, he can be considered to be from a poor family, with a family of the same size.
In this way, he was able to stand out after superimposing the double buffs of Troubled Times and Aristocratic Family.
From this we can see how difficult it is for a child from a really poor family to get ahead when a wealthy family controls the world.
It can almost be said to be hell-level difficulty.
Looking at the heroes in the early Tang Dynasty, Ma Zhou and Zhang Liang may be the only ones who were born in poverty.
Historically, the former invested in Chang He's mansion, became Chang He's retainer, and became an official through Chang He's recommendation.
The latter followed Li Mi, Li Shiji, and Li Shimin, and received several rounds of war dividends before he was able to take the lead.
One is bowing to the aristocratic family, and the other is a hero created by the current situation.
The former is the mainstream way and the only way for children from poor families to get ahead.
The latter is almost impossible to replicate, because Datang's country has been stabilized, and it is impossible to return to the troubled times.
Therefore, when the aristocratic family controls the knowledge and the promotion channel, no matter what method you use to recruit scholars, you will not be able to get someone who has nothing to do with the aristocratic family.
"Then it will be useful for you to set up martial arts in various places? You don't want to get soldiers in the army, do you? Do you think the army can train herdsmen officers?"
Li Shimin was not angry when his idea was denied, but asked seriously.
Li Yuanji said with a smile: "Of course it is impossible for me to recruit soldiers in the army, and I don't think that the army can train any herdsman officials. The reason why I set up martial arts in various places is also to use the martial arts in various places to promote them in various places." Meng Xue."
The army is a violent institution, which can only cultivate killers, and it is impossible to cultivate herdsmen officials.
Recruiting soldiers in the army, or training soldiers to become soldiers, is definitely the most stupid behavior, and it is also the most disastrous behavior for the country and the people.
Therefore, the army can only be used as a springboard, a springboard to break the monopoly of aristocratic families on knowledge.
"Appreciate further details!"
Li Shimin seemed to be very concerned about this matter, and waited for the next sentence with a serious face.
Li Yuan's eyes widened all of a sudden, with a look of cursing.
That's all for the sake of it, what else is there besides a wealthy family?
However, Li Yuan still didn't curse out loud after all, but just said angrily, "A wealthy family!"
Li Yuanji nodded and said, "That's right, it's a wealthy family. Then my father thinks, how should we eliminate them when the wealthy families cannot be attracted?"
Li Yuan frowned again, the look of wanting to curse was no longer on his face, replaced by a solemn and pensive expression.
After a long time, Li Yuan said in a heavy and helpless voice, "There is no other way but to wear it down bit by bit."
After all, a wealthy family is not a cat or a dog, and it is not something you can eliminate if you want to.
As long as they don't cause any harm to Datang, and keep themselves safe and don't violate any laws of Datang, you really have nothing to do with them.
In addition, most of the knowledge of Datang is in the hands of others, and most of the talents of Datang are also in the hands of others.
If Datang wants to develop and grow stronger, it cannot do without others.
They have already spread their influence to all aspects of Datang through the knowledge and talents they have in their hands.
Therefore, without a reasonable reason and a reasonable excuse, Datang has no way to use violence against others.
Once it moves, it will arouse public anger and cause backlash from all aristocratic families.
Therefore, if Datang wants to eliminate others, it can only plan it slowly, using time to nibble away bit by bit.
Other than that, there is no other way.
Li Yuanji stared at Li Yuan and asked again, "Then father thinks, can my Tang Dynasty kill them bit by bit?"
Li Yuan opened his mouth, wanting to say 'yes', but when the words came to his lips, he didn't have the courage to say them.
He is still alive, and when his sons are still alive, they may be able to unanimously and unanimously kill and erode the control and influence of the wealthy family over Datang.
But after he died and his sons died, he couldn't guarantee whether his grandsons, or even great-grandchildren, could implement this point.
After all, when he was alive, he couldn't control his sons, which made his sons fight endlessly, and they were almost brothers. After he died, his grandchildren and great-grandchildren were even less likely to be controlled by him.
At that time, even if he and his sons keep the best national policy, even if they write the strategy against the wealthy family into a booklet, so that the grandsons and great-grandchildren don't have to use their brains and do it according to the book, the grandson and great-grandchildren will not He may not be able to listen, and there may even be Ni Sun and Ni great grandson, overthrowing everything he and his sons have set, and supporting the wealthy family again.
So he didn't have the confidence to say 'can'.
"What do you think, just say it, don't try to trick me here!"
Li Yuan glared at Li Yuanji again, and shouted impatiently.
He's not the impatient kind of person, he just doesn't like listening to his son tease him.
In his opinion, they are all a family, and they should have something to say when they get together, instead of trying to play tricks and do things that go around.
Li Yuanji pursed his lips in secret, and he didn't show any more, "It seems that my father also knows that it is impossible to wipe out the rich and powerful families just by the generations of my Tang Dynasty.
Because what we think is right and what we are doing, our successors may not necessarily think it is right, and they may not necessarily follow suit.
In addition, once the aristocratic and wealthy families have a solid foundation in my Tang Dynasty and become a giant, our successors may not have the courage to oppose them.
Therefore, we must clear away the rich and powerful families in our two generations, and leave a clean and non-threatening country to our children and grandchildren. "
Li Yuan nodded in agreement, and even Li Jiancheng and Li Shimin, who were listening on the sidelines, subconsciously nodded in agreement.
But Li Yuan still urged impatiently: "Hurry up and tell me what you are going to do, don't talk about such irrelevant nonsense!"
It doesn't matter? !
Li Yuanji didn't know whether to cry or laugh.
Li Yuan really thinks he's upright, if you really think these are all nonsense, then why are you nodding?
However, Li Yuanji didn't bother with Li Yuan, and continued: "A sage once said that if there is an opportunity, we will take advantage of it, and if there is no opportunity, we will create it.
We don't want to see aristocratic families grow big, and we don't want to see this cancer of aristocratic families continue to affect the country of Datang, and we don't want to leave this cancer of aristocratic families to future generations.
Then we have to create opportunities, lead them to make mistakes, and lead them to show their flaws.
Therefore, it is justifiable to use strong means to eradicate them.
I asked Uncle Shentong Wang and others to set up martial arts in various places, which is one of them.
Let cousin Xiaogong and Su Dingfang introduce them to water and sea transportation is the second. "
Hearing this, Li Yuan fell into deep thought.
Li Jiancheng and Li Shimin were also pondering, looking thoughtful.
After a long time, Li Shimin asked suddenly: "Do you want to use martial arts to break the control of the aristocratic family's knowledge?"
Li Yuanji nodded and said, "Not bad..."
Li Shimin frowned and said, "With only one martial art, it may be difficult to break the control of the aristocratic family's knowledge. If we set up elementary schools in various places, or expand government schools in various places to recruit poor students, it may be possible..."
Li Yuanji smiled and said: "The second brother is right, but the second brother did not consider the influence of the wealthy family in various places. With them, even if Mengxue is established, it will only become their private property. They will turn Mengxue into a To become a school that only accepts the children of their families and the children of their relatives, it is impossible for the children of poor people to get started.
More importantly, even if we force them to take in the children of poor people, they will select the best from among the best, take them into the sect, and then use the power behind them to recommend them to become officials.
In this way, the elementary schools we set up are equivalent to making wedding dresses for them.
The same is true of government schools everywhere. "
Li Shimin frowned all of a sudden, and said in a deep voice, "Then what if we use the former imperial examination to select scholars?"
Li Yuanji laughed and said: "It's useless to use any method of selecting scholars on this basis..."
They pinched the tip when they were in elementary school. Don't talk about taking the imperial examination to get scholars. Even if you go to various places to get scholars in person, the people who are selected are still from other people.
In the process of pinching the top, even if there are some omissions, they can still pinch a few more waves in the process of recommending from the Mongolian school to the county school, and from the county school to the imperial school.
Moreover, when people control the place and affect the government and the public, those who are not pinched by others, or those who are rebellious and unwilling to attach to others, no matter how talented they are, they can be suppressed and not let them stand out.
What's more, even if there were one or two lucky ones, they broke through many obstacles, appeared in Taixue, and even passed the imperial examination.
People can also corrupt them with money and seduce them with beauty after they pass the exam, and pull them into their camp.
Even if he blocks the temptation, he will be easily manipulated and played to death in a court full of his own people.
Is Wei Zheng talented enough?
In the pre-Sui Dynasty, there was no chance to stand out at all. In the troubled times at the end of the Sui Dynasty, it was only after following several lords that they showed their talents.
In this way, he was reused only after he married a wife from an aristocratic family.
Although Wei Zheng was poor as a young man, he even worked as a Taoist priest for his livelihood, but Wei Zheng's family background is not comparable to that of the children of poor families.
His grandfather was the governor of Guangzhou during the Northern Wei Dynasty, and his father was the county magistrate of Shangdang Tunliu during the Northern Qi Dynasty. If you look at it carefully, he can be considered to be from a poor family, with a family of the same size.
In this way, he was able to stand out after superimposing the double buffs of Troubled Times and Aristocratic Family.
From this we can see how difficult it is for a child from a really poor family to get ahead when a wealthy family controls the world.
It can almost be said to be hell-level difficulty.
Looking at the heroes in the early Tang Dynasty, Ma Zhou and Zhang Liang may be the only ones who were born in poverty.
Historically, the former invested in Chang He's mansion, became Chang He's retainer, and became an official through Chang He's recommendation.
The latter followed Li Mi, Li Shiji, and Li Shimin, and received several rounds of war dividends before he was able to take the lead.
One is bowing to the aristocratic family, and the other is a hero created by the current situation.
The former is the mainstream way and the only way for children from poor families to get ahead.
The latter is almost impossible to replicate, because Datang's country has been stabilized, and it is impossible to return to the troubled times.
Therefore, when the aristocratic family controls the knowledge and the promotion channel, no matter what method you use to recruit scholars, you will not be able to get someone who has nothing to do with the aristocratic family.
"Then it will be useful for you to set up martial arts in various places? You don't want to get soldiers in the army, do you? Do you think the army can train herdsmen officers?"
Li Shimin was not angry when his idea was denied, but asked seriously.
Li Yuanji said with a smile: "Of course it is impossible for me to recruit soldiers in the army, and I don't think that the army can train any herdsman officials. The reason why I set up martial arts in various places is also to use the martial arts in various places to promote them in various places." Meng Xue."
The army is a violent institution, which can only cultivate killers, and it is impossible to cultivate herdsmen officials.
Recruiting soldiers in the army, or training soldiers to become soldiers, is definitely the most stupid behavior, and it is also the most disastrous behavior for the country and the people.
Therefore, the army can only be used as a springboard, a springboard to break the monopoly of aristocratic families on knowledge.
"Appreciate further details!"
Li Shimin seemed to be very concerned about this matter, and waited for the next sentence with a serious face.
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