Haisheng Mingdi
Chapter 464 Fight if you don't agree
Chapter 464 Fight if you don't agree
"Trade can exchange what is needed, adjust supply and demand, and promote development."
Zhu Yihai attaches great importance to the economy. During the war, agricultural production was greatly affected, and it was even more necessary to increase tax subsidies from the industrial and commercial trade.
North Korea is a huge market. In the past, the tribute trade was too small and restricted a lot.
Zhu Yihai's plan is to fully liberalize trade. When Dongjiang Town reopens, Dongjiang will be the nearest trade transfer point. Denglai, Ningbo, Chongming, Hangzhou and other ports can also be fully liberalized for North Korean officials and people to trade.
At the same time, he also hoped that North Korea would let Xuanshapo, Pyongyang, Uiju, Seoul and other places allow Ming businessmen to go to trade.
In the Ming Dynasty, the two countries traded with each other, opened their ports, and jointly cracked down on smuggling.
North Korea’s ginseng, cattle, horses, wood, medicinal materials, grain, etc. can all enter Daming, and Daming can also sell silk, cotton, ironware, tea, etc. to North Korea, not only for exchange of goods, but also for profits and taxes.
For the courts of both countries, this is extremely beneficial.
Although the trade in the past was limited to the official and non-governmental trade was prohibited, but that was a thing of the past, with past considerations, for the current Zhu Yihai, he values the benefits of open trade more.
Moreover, private trade itself is more in line with the laws of market and economic development. What the court needs to do is to make the best use of the situation, not to block it.
As long as you do a good job in auditing and tax collection, you will be fine.
"Recently, my Ming and the Dutch started a war in the East China Sea, so I hope that North Korea will not trade with the Dutch in the future."
Cui Mingji directly stated that Western churches have also been sneaked into North Korea recently, which has had a very bad influence on the people's thinking. The North Korean court has also discussed the banning of churches many times.
They intend to ban all Western churches, and even completely ban Portuguese, Dutch, Spanish and other Westerners from coming to trade, and severely crack down on smuggling.
Of the two East Asian nations, North Korea and Japan, North Korea is more conservative than Japan.
However, Japan banned religion earlier, mainly because Japan had a large trade with several Western countries, which attracted many foreigners, and the spread of the church had a great impact on the people, and even the Shimabara Rebellion occurred.After this turmoil, Japan banned religion and expelled the Portuguese and Spaniards behind the Catholic Church, but lenient the Dutch and allowed them to continue trading, making the Netherlands Japan's only Western trading partner.
The Dutch maintain trade relations with Japan and can earn a lot of money every year. Because of the development of trade with Japan, they need Taiwan as a trade transit point even more.
In particular, they could only occupy Taiwan and trade with the Zheng Group after repeated attempts to open up trade with the Ming Dynasty failed.
"Your Majesty, rest assured that North Korea will never let the Dutch step into North Korea."
In fact, Zhu Yihai had greeted the Dutch before and wanted to have a good talk with them. Zhu Yihai summoned the Dutch representatives in Taiwan and proposed a friendly plan.
That is to say, Ming allowed the Netherlands to trade with Daming, and opened more than a dozen ports such as Hangzhou, Ningbo, Guangzhou, Wenzhou, and Guangzhou to allow them to come to Ming for free trade. Captured Keelung Port.
This proposal is very sincere, and even the opening of the Ming port is what they have always dreamed of, but they could not persuade the Ming Dynasty at all, neither the literary nor the military, occupying Penghu by force, and even fighting along the coast failed. up.
In particular, the rise of the Zheng family has monopolized Daming's goods, so that they finally had to start a transit trade in Taiwan. They could only buy Daming's goods from Zheng's hands, and then resold them to Japan, or shipped them back to Badawi Asia and other places.
Now you can directly trade with Ming Dynasty, which means a bigger Chinese market, and a place where you can directly purchase Chinese goods without middlemen earning their price difference.
Zhu Yihai even suggested that they could come to China to preach, as long as they abide by the laws of Ming Dynasty and act according to the rules of Ming Dynasty.
Originally, he thought that the Dutch would readily agree, and then start in-depth cooperation with Daming like the Portuguese, but who knew that this matter would not work out in the end.
The Dutch wanted to trade with Ming, but were unwilling to give up Taiwan.
They even proposed that Ming should assign Macau to them in the Portuguese concession.
This is very excessive.
The Portuguese have indeed weakened these years, and even their colonies in Malacca and other places have been captured by the Dutch one after another. However, Macau is a treasure land. The rent of 500 taels a year is exchanged for a huge profit of at least 250 million taels of silver every year. income.
They occupy an advantageous location in Macau, and earn a lot of money through the entrepot trade every year. How can they be willing to quit?
At the beginning when the Dutch sent a fleet to besiege Macau, the Portuguese soldiers in Macau were few, but they all stood firm to the end. Finally, they stopped the Dutch commander with a single shot, repelled the enemy, and defended this treasured place.
For Daming, the Portuguese in Macau were already friendly and cooperative partners. They helped Zhu Yihai a lot in the early stage, providing mercenaries, selling artillery, gunpowder, etc. The strengthening of trade between the two sides was a matter of mutual benefit.
The Dutch lion opened his mouth, talked for a few rounds, and finally broke up unhappy.
If the peace talks fail, then they can only fight hard.
Zhu Yihai also knew that this negotiation failed, but in fact, the Zheng family was also involved in the trouble. Before that, the Zheng family had fought several battles with the Dutch East India Company, and finally drove the Dutch out, monopolizing Ming's foreign trade rights.
Now that the imperial court is opening up sea trade, the Zheng family is actually the one that suffers the most, but they have nothing to do.
But if there is a chance, I am still very willing to make sabotage.
The failure of this negotiation was mainly due to the fact that during the negotiation period, Zheng Hongkui, Governor of Fujian, sent people to Taiwan, attacked the Dutch on the island, killed more than a dozen Dutch people, and then attacked two Dutch merchant ships at sea.
The Zheng family blocked the Taiwan Strait and did not allow the Dutch merchant ships to go north. They wanted to cut off the Dutch trade with Japan, and wanted the Dutch to trade with Zheng, so that they could earn this intermediate money.
This side is negotiating, and the Zheng family is making a secret move over there.
The Dutch trade with Japan makes huge profits every year. Their ships can sail directly from Batavia (Jakarta) to Japan, but they also need to trade with Zheng to purchase Chinese goods.
The Cheng family tore up the agreement reached with the Dutch after the war, attacked their colony in Taiwan, intercepted their merchant ships, and even stopped selling their goods, and the Dutch were also annoyed.
They even think that Zheng's behavior was instigated by Ming, negotiating here, and secretly doing bad things over there. The Dutch who have been strong for the past few years will no longer negotiate, and want to fight the Ming army in Taiwan, and let Daming calm down with a big defeat , and then force Ming to trade and recognize their possession of Taiwan.
Facing this situation, Zhu Yihai didn't explain any more.
If you can't make a deal, then fight, if you don't eat the toast, then give him a fine drink.
While Zhu Yihai sent people to Luzon to negotiate with the Spaniards on opening up trade cooperation, he also asked Zhu Chenggong, Zhang Kentang, He Tengjiao, Zhang Mingyang, Qu Shixu and other southeastern border ministers to step up preparations for the recovery of Taiwan.
United with the Spaniards to block the northward route of the Dutch, and promised to allow the Spaniards to return to the island of Taiwan to establish trading posts and trade in Hong Kong after the Dutch on the island of Taiwan were wiped out.
Zhu Yihai also sent people to Japan as an envoy, but the generals of the Tokugawa family of the Japanese shogunate were a little out of their wits, or they were bent on seclusion and did not buy into Daming's account. It may also be because they sent troops to North Korea in the early years, and were finally defeated by Daming. The fight was a bit miserable, so I still remember the grudge.
The Wa Kingdom didn’t pay much attention to the envoys of the Emperor Ming, and even refused to open up trade with the Ming Dynasty.
Zhu Yihai didn't bother to talk about this kind of dead-headedness. Trade is not allowed, so let's smuggle.
The profits of international trade at sea are so huge, and the Tokugawa family can't stop them. If the shogunate doesn't cooperate, then ask the lords below to cooperate.
World War I in Taiwan was inevitable.
Regarding the matter of recovering Taiwan, the vast majority of voices in the imperial court are now in disapproval. The reason is very simple, that is, it is a deserted island in the middle of the sea.
Including some hungry people from Fujian who went to the island to reclaim wasteland in the early years, the total is only [-] to [-] Han people.
With such a small population, coupled with the fact that Fujian is separated by the sea, it is inconvenient to travel in high winds and waves, so it is not worth spending too much effort to fight. Now we should fight the Tartars first.
Moreover, even if it is laid down, it will not be easy to develop it.
On the coast of Daming, any larger island is far stronger than this Taiwan island. It is very expensive to transport people to cultivate it, and it is difficult to recover the cost. The current situation is not worthwhile.
The islands of Chongming and Zhoushan, any one of them, has a population of 20 million, countless fields, and the benefits of fishing and salt. Wouldn’t it be a hundred times or a thousand times better than that island?
Although there are many voices of suspicion and opposition, Zhu Yihai still insists on taking back Taiwan Island.
As for the large investment in development, it is difficult to pay back for a while, it also depends on the situation.
For example, now the Central Plains is full of war and famine, and Taiwan Island is in the East China Sea, which can be said to be in the rear. What is needed now is a boat to transport the hungry people from Huainan, Shandong, Huguang and other places to Taiwan Island, and provide everyone with some seeds and farm tools. Let everyone reclaim wasteland and rely on themselves, at least to have a stable environment, is it a hundred times better than staying in the dead land of the Central Plains?
After three to five years of hard work, I can always be self-sufficient.
Even if you build a shack at the beginning and work hard for a few years, you will always be able to pay off your hardships. Sooner or later, the court will be able to get a tax return, not to mention a place where people can be settled safely in troubled times, which is also an excellent source of soldiers.
On the other hand, by fighting against Taiwan, we can also take the opportunity to integrate the soldiers and horses in Fujian, Guangdong and Guangxi, and strengthen the jurisdiction of the court. Even in the long run, driving away the Dutch and retaking Taiwan is also a serious weakening of the Zheng family.
Zheng's ability to dominate the sea these years is also related to their defeat of the Dutch in the early years and then reaching a trade agreement with them. When this agreement is broken, the pattern can be redrawn.
Zheng's status will naturally weaken again.
The southeast is far away, and Zhu Yihai can only hope that Zhu Chenggong and the others can defeat the Dutch as soon as possible and regain Taiwan.
At that time, it may be easier to talk about it by sending someone to talk to the Dutch.
He still hopes to start trade with the Dutch. After all, they are very powerful in Nanyang, and the two sides trade, a mutually beneficial and win-win situation, but next time, it will be the trade between the Ming Dynasty and the Dutch, not the trade between the Zheng family of Fujian and the Dutch in Taiwan. up.
"Is Your Majesty planning to fight the Tartars here?"
The son of the Joseon Dynasty, Li Hao, looked at the bastions and water villages that were about to take shape in Laizhou Bay, and was very interested. This fort was different from what he had seen before, and he had never seen such a fort even in the Liaodong Tartars.
I just feel that it is full of edges and corners, full of ferocity.
Especially those heavy artillery that are hoisting up the fort are even more mighty.
"Well, I am waiting for the Tartars here, and they should be coming soon."
Li Hao was very excited and asked to deploy missions for him and his five hundred North Korean archers.
"Our North Korean archers have always been good at shooting, and we will never disappoint His Majesty."
Zhu Yihai smiled, North Korean archers are indeed quite famous, just like their kimchi, beauties, and Korean ginseng, they are treasures of North Korea.
"Okay, stay!"
(End of this chapter)
"Trade can exchange what is needed, adjust supply and demand, and promote development."
Zhu Yihai attaches great importance to the economy. During the war, agricultural production was greatly affected, and it was even more necessary to increase tax subsidies from the industrial and commercial trade.
North Korea is a huge market. In the past, the tribute trade was too small and restricted a lot.
Zhu Yihai's plan is to fully liberalize trade. When Dongjiang Town reopens, Dongjiang will be the nearest trade transfer point. Denglai, Ningbo, Chongming, Hangzhou and other ports can also be fully liberalized for North Korean officials and people to trade.
At the same time, he also hoped that North Korea would let Xuanshapo, Pyongyang, Uiju, Seoul and other places allow Ming businessmen to go to trade.
In the Ming Dynasty, the two countries traded with each other, opened their ports, and jointly cracked down on smuggling.
North Korea’s ginseng, cattle, horses, wood, medicinal materials, grain, etc. can all enter Daming, and Daming can also sell silk, cotton, ironware, tea, etc. to North Korea, not only for exchange of goods, but also for profits and taxes.
For the courts of both countries, this is extremely beneficial.
Although the trade in the past was limited to the official and non-governmental trade was prohibited, but that was a thing of the past, with past considerations, for the current Zhu Yihai, he values the benefits of open trade more.
Moreover, private trade itself is more in line with the laws of market and economic development. What the court needs to do is to make the best use of the situation, not to block it.
As long as you do a good job in auditing and tax collection, you will be fine.
"Recently, my Ming and the Dutch started a war in the East China Sea, so I hope that North Korea will not trade with the Dutch in the future."
Cui Mingji directly stated that Western churches have also been sneaked into North Korea recently, which has had a very bad influence on the people's thinking. The North Korean court has also discussed the banning of churches many times.
They intend to ban all Western churches, and even completely ban Portuguese, Dutch, Spanish and other Westerners from coming to trade, and severely crack down on smuggling.
Of the two East Asian nations, North Korea and Japan, North Korea is more conservative than Japan.
However, Japan banned religion earlier, mainly because Japan had a large trade with several Western countries, which attracted many foreigners, and the spread of the church had a great impact on the people, and even the Shimabara Rebellion occurred.After this turmoil, Japan banned religion and expelled the Portuguese and Spaniards behind the Catholic Church, but lenient the Dutch and allowed them to continue trading, making the Netherlands Japan's only Western trading partner.
The Dutch maintain trade relations with Japan and can earn a lot of money every year. Because of the development of trade with Japan, they need Taiwan as a trade transit point even more.
In particular, they could only occupy Taiwan and trade with the Zheng Group after repeated attempts to open up trade with the Ming Dynasty failed.
"Your Majesty, rest assured that North Korea will never let the Dutch step into North Korea."
In fact, Zhu Yihai had greeted the Dutch before and wanted to have a good talk with them. Zhu Yihai summoned the Dutch representatives in Taiwan and proposed a friendly plan.
That is to say, Ming allowed the Netherlands to trade with Daming, and opened more than a dozen ports such as Hangzhou, Ningbo, Guangzhou, Wenzhou, and Guangzhou to allow them to come to Ming for free trade. Captured Keelung Port.
This proposal is very sincere, and even the opening of the Ming port is what they have always dreamed of, but they could not persuade the Ming Dynasty at all, neither the literary nor the military, occupying Penghu by force, and even fighting along the coast failed. up.
In particular, the rise of the Zheng family has monopolized Daming's goods, so that they finally had to start a transit trade in Taiwan. They could only buy Daming's goods from Zheng's hands, and then resold them to Japan, or shipped them back to Badawi Asia and other places.
Now you can directly trade with Ming Dynasty, which means a bigger Chinese market, and a place where you can directly purchase Chinese goods without middlemen earning their price difference.
Zhu Yihai even suggested that they could come to China to preach, as long as they abide by the laws of Ming Dynasty and act according to the rules of Ming Dynasty.
Originally, he thought that the Dutch would readily agree, and then start in-depth cooperation with Daming like the Portuguese, but who knew that this matter would not work out in the end.
The Dutch wanted to trade with Ming, but were unwilling to give up Taiwan.
They even proposed that Ming should assign Macau to them in the Portuguese concession.
This is very excessive.
The Portuguese have indeed weakened these years, and even their colonies in Malacca and other places have been captured by the Dutch one after another. However, Macau is a treasure land. The rent of 500 taels a year is exchanged for a huge profit of at least 250 million taels of silver every year. income.
They occupy an advantageous location in Macau, and earn a lot of money through the entrepot trade every year. How can they be willing to quit?
At the beginning when the Dutch sent a fleet to besiege Macau, the Portuguese soldiers in Macau were few, but they all stood firm to the end. Finally, they stopped the Dutch commander with a single shot, repelled the enemy, and defended this treasured place.
For Daming, the Portuguese in Macau were already friendly and cooperative partners. They helped Zhu Yihai a lot in the early stage, providing mercenaries, selling artillery, gunpowder, etc. The strengthening of trade between the two sides was a matter of mutual benefit.
The Dutch lion opened his mouth, talked for a few rounds, and finally broke up unhappy.
If the peace talks fail, then they can only fight hard.
Zhu Yihai also knew that this negotiation failed, but in fact, the Zheng family was also involved in the trouble. Before that, the Zheng family had fought several battles with the Dutch East India Company, and finally drove the Dutch out, monopolizing Ming's foreign trade rights.
Now that the imperial court is opening up sea trade, the Zheng family is actually the one that suffers the most, but they have nothing to do.
But if there is a chance, I am still very willing to make sabotage.
The failure of this negotiation was mainly due to the fact that during the negotiation period, Zheng Hongkui, Governor of Fujian, sent people to Taiwan, attacked the Dutch on the island, killed more than a dozen Dutch people, and then attacked two Dutch merchant ships at sea.
The Zheng family blocked the Taiwan Strait and did not allow the Dutch merchant ships to go north. They wanted to cut off the Dutch trade with Japan, and wanted the Dutch to trade with Zheng, so that they could earn this intermediate money.
This side is negotiating, and the Zheng family is making a secret move over there.
The Dutch trade with Japan makes huge profits every year. Their ships can sail directly from Batavia (Jakarta) to Japan, but they also need to trade with Zheng to purchase Chinese goods.
The Cheng family tore up the agreement reached with the Dutch after the war, attacked their colony in Taiwan, intercepted their merchant ships, and even stopped selling their goods, and the Dutch were also annoyed.
They even think that Zheng's behavior was instigated by Ming, negotiating here, and secretly doing bad things over there. The Dutch who have been strong for the past few years will no longer negotiate, and want to fight the Ming army in Taiwan, and let Daming calm down with a big defeat , and then force Ming to trade and recognize their possession of Taiwan.
Facing this situation, Zhu Yihai didn't explain any more.
If you can't make a deal, then fight, if you don't eat the toast, then give him a fine drink.
While Zhu Yihai sent people to Luzon to negotiate with the Spaniards on opening up trade cooperation, he also asked Zhu Chenggong, Zhang Kentang, He Tengjiao, Zhang Mingyang, Qu Shixu and other southeastern border ministers to step up preparations for the recovery of Taiwan.
United with the Spaniards to block the northward route of the Dutch, and promised to allow the Spaniards to return to the island of Taiwan to establish trading posts and trade in Hong Kong after the Dutch on the island of Taiwan were wiped out.
Zhu Yihai also sent people to Japan as an envoy, but the generals of the Tokugawa family of the Japanese shogunate were a little out of their wits, or they were bent on seclusion and did not buy into Daming's account. It may also be because they sent troops to North Korea in the early years, and were finally defeated by Daming. The fight was a bit miserable, so I still remember the grudge.
The Wa Kingdom didn’t pay much attention to the envoys of the Emperor Ming, and even refused to open up trade with the Ming Dynasty.
Zhu Yihai didn't bother to talk about this kind of dead-headedness. Trade is not allowed, so let's smuggle.
The profits of international trade at sea are so huge, and the Tokugawa family can't stop them. If the shogunate doesn't cooperate, then ask the lords below to cooperate.
World War I in Taiwan was inevitable.
Regarding the matter of recovering Taiwan, the vast majority of voices in the imperial court are now in disapproval. The reason is very simple, that is, it is a deserted island in the middle of the sea.
Including some hungry people from Fujian who went to the island to reclaim wasteland in the early years, the total is only [-] to [-] Han people.
With such a small population, coupled with the fact that Fujian is separated by the sea, it is inconvenient to travel in high winds and waves, so it is not worth spending too much effort to fight. Now we should fight the Tartars first.
Moreover, even if it is laid down, it will not be easy to develop it.
On the coast of Daming, any larger island is far stronger than this Taiwan island. It is very expensive to transport people to cultivate it, and it is difficult to recover the cost. The current situation is not worthwhile.
The islands of Chongming and Zhoushan, any one of them, has a population of 20 million, countless fields, and the benefits of fishing and salt. Wouldn’t it be a hundred times or a thousand times better than that island?
Although there are many voices of suspicion and opposition, Zhu Yihai still insists on taking back Taiwan Island.
As for the large investment in development, it is difficult to pay back for a while, it also depends on the situation.
For example, now the Central Plains is full of war and famine, and Taiwan Island is in the East China Sea, which can be said to be in the rear. What is needed now is a boat to transport the hungry people from Huainan, Shandong, Huguang and other places to Taiwan Island, and provide everyone with some seeds and farm tools. Let everyone reclaim wasteland and rely on themselves, at least to have a stable environment, is it a hundred times better than staying in the dead land of the Central Plains?
After three to five years of hard work, I can always be self-sufficient.
Even if you build a shack at the beginning and work hard for a few years, you will always be able to pay off your hardships. Sooner or later, the court will be able to get a tax return, not to mention a place where people can be settled safely in troubled times, which is also an excellent source of soldiers.
On the other hand, by fighting against Taiwan, we can also take the opportunity to integrate the soldiers and horses in Fujian, Guangdong and Guangxi, and strengthen the jurisdiction of the court. Even in the long run, driving away the Dutch and retaking Taiwan is also a serious weakening of the Zheng family.
Zheng's ability to dominate the sea these years is also related to their defeat of the Dutch in the early years and then reaching a trade agreement with them. When this agreement is broken, the pattern can be redrawn.
Zheng's status will naturally weaken again.
The southeast is far away, and Zhu Yihai can only hope that Zhu Chenggong and the others can defeat the Dutch as soon as possible and regain Taiwan.
At that time, it may be easier to talk about it by sending someone to talk to the Dutch.
He still hopes to start trade with the Dutch. After all, they are very powerful in Nanyang, and the two sides trade, a mutually beneficial and win-win situation, but next time, it will be the trade between the Ming Dynasty and the Dutch, not the trade between the Zheng family of Fujian and the Dutch in Taiwan. up.
"Is Your Majesty planning to fight the Tartars here?"
The son of the Joseon Dynasty, Li Hao, looked at the bastions and water villages that were about to take shape in Laizhou Bay, and was very interested. This fort was different from what he had seen before, and he had never seen such a fort even in the Liaodong Tartars.
I just feel that it is full of edges and corners, full of ferocity.
Especially those heavy artillery that are hoisting up the fort are even more mighty.
"Well, I am waiting for the Tartars here, and they should be coming soon."
Li Hao was very excited and asked to deploy missions for him and his five hundred North Korean archers.
"Our North Korean archers have always been good at shooting, and we will never disappoint His Majesty."
Zhu Yihai smiled, North Korean archers are indeed quite famous, just like their kimchi, beauties, and Korean ginseng, they are treasures of North Korea.
"Okay, stay!"
(End of this chapter)
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