Great warships
Chapter 855 Selling TR Components Complete a Small Goal
At noon that day, during the meal, Xu Zhengyang whispered a few words in Qin Tao's ear.
"Everyone, I'm very sorry, I need to excuse me for a moment." Qin Tao had an apologetic expression on his face: "The domestic phased array radar research and development unit we coordinated is here. Let me communicate with them first."
Boss Qin is so awesome, the request made in the morning was invited over at noon!Gushkov was very emotional. In Damao, it is quite fast to finish this kind of thing within a week.
"Go, Mr. Qin, we are waiting for your good news." Nicholas said.
This is of course just a coincidence. After Qin Tao arranged things yesterday, Yang Dawei went to contact the 23rd Institute. He originally made a phone call to contact the 23rd Institute. Unexpectedly, the [-]rd Institute was very excited after receiving the news. They didn't need Yang Dawei to go over to get the materials. send it here!
So, it happened to catch up with Da Mao's demand, so it just sold to Da Mao to save face, see, we pay more attention to your needs!
When Qin Tao came to the meeting room, there were already three or five people sitting in it, and the leader was Mr. Wang whom he had met when he was bidding. He was a veteran with a high position in the 23rd institute, and he was in the 14th institute with Mr. Ben. same status.
"Old Wang, it's hard work for you to come all the way here." Qin Tao was very enthusiastic: "We just have this intention, and we may not be able to sell it. You don't need to be so enthusiastic."
"Now is the era of market economy. We can do it, and so can the 14th institute. Of course, we have to catch up with your Mingzhou Group." Wang Lao said.
Now the Aegis battleship's phased array radar is provided by 14. Their radar array not only has S-band components, but also some C-band components, which are used to provide target illumination for the Hongqi IX missile, and the small The shield uses a C-band front, and this 14th institute can also make it, so their 23rd institute must seize the opportunity.
"Old Wang, since you are here, I have a question to ask."
There is no need for Qin Tao to ask questions about the matters entrusted to Yang Dawei. He needs to understand the questions of Nicholas and the others.
"President Qin, please speak."
"In addition to the overall support of our shipborne phased array radar, can we also provide T/R components separately?"
Qin Tao's words made Mr. Wang a little curious: "Mr. Qin, are you saying that some components on one front are broken and need to be replaced? This is best replaced by the supplier, and your shipyard may not be able to replace it. OK."
"No, I'm asking for someone else, a foreign client."
foreign customer?
Mr. Wang thought for a while, and then said: "Boss Qin, then we can't make the decision, after all, we don't produce T/R components."
"What, you don't produce it?" Now it was Qin Tao's turn to be shocked: "Then how do you make your phased array radar antenna?"
"President Qin, after these years of development, our phased array radar industry has developed. Whether it is ship-borne, land-based, airborne, military or aerospace, phased-array radar is needed. Our 23 Such a unit belongs to the assembly unit of phased array radar, and we also need to get goods from upstream suppliers."
"Upstream supplier?"
"That's right, we don't have a chip factory, how do we produce T/R components?"
In the past, the core of the radar was an electromagnetic tube, which was produced by a tube factory. Now the core of the radar is a T/R component, which is essentially an integrated circuit, so it needs to be produced by a chip manufacturer.
The 23rd Institute does not have this capability, so it must be direct procurement.
"Then what are the upstream production units of our domestic T/R modules?" Qin Tao was curious and continued to ask.
"The production of this kind of component is not easy. Although it can be used by civilians, it is mainly developed by the research institutes affiliated to the military industry group. In our country, the 13th and 55th institutes of the Electric Science Division are the main ones. By the way, why don't you Mingzhou Group Join in? If you come in, maybe you can develop more advanced T/R components."
This thing also has grades, the higher the technology, the smaller the volume produced, the lower the calorific value, the higher the yield, and the more advanced the performance.
"That is to say, we have to go to Institute 13 and Institute 55 to ask."
"Well, I have to ask them, but if you need it, Mr. Qin, I can just give them a call." Wang Lao said.
"Well, call later, I still have something to ask you."
"please say."
"Can our 13th and 55th institutes produce X-band components?"
"Of course you can. The X-band radar is used to support your fourth-generation stealth aircraft. Wait, Mr. Qin, you just asked about the shipboard radar, right? The main shipboard search radar doesn't use the X-band radar, right?"
"That's right, Mr. Qin, shipborne search radars are generally S-band, and C-band is rare, and X-band is not suitable at all."
The accuracy of the X-band is high, so it can be used as a fire control radar, but if it is to be used as the main search radar, the search distance is too short, unless more modules are superimposed. Later generations of the US Ford-class aircraft carrier are equipped with X-band AN The /SPY-3 multifunctional radar is used to accurately track targets, but it still has to be equipped with the S-band AN/SPY-4 long-range search radar, and the radar is very large.
"Yes, this band is not used, but the customer has a request."
"Okay, then let's ask together." Elder Wang asked, "Are there any other requirements?"
"temporarily unavailable."
Elder Wang picked up the phone.
"Old Zhao, I'm Lao Wang. I'd like to introduce you a business. Can your T/R components be sold abroad?"
"What, can you sell bipolar silicon and gallium arsenide components? What's the price?"
"okay, got it."
Putting down the phone, Mr. Wang looked at Qin Tao: "Mr. Qin, they said that they can sell the products of the previous generation and the previous two generations, and the price is not expensive. A single component of bipolar silicon costs [-] yuan, and that of gallium arsenide costs [-] yuan. .The frequency is optional."
"RMB or USD?" Qin Tao asked.
"Of course it is RMB." Wang Lao said: "Over the years, our domestic technology has developed rapidly, and the cost has long been reduced. The price they want, of which more than [-]% of the profit. After all, we are selling to the outside world, not for our own use. .”
When the Western world was still gnashing their teeth at the high price of phased array radar, the Eastern has been able to launch a large number of Aegis warships. The most important reason is to make this T/R component into a cabbage price. Of course, it is cheap for personal use. , sell to make money.
"Okay, then I'll convert these prices into US dollars and sell them to Lao Maozi." Qin Tao said: "It's time for our domestic institutions to make money."
The core of the active phased array radar is this antenna system, which accounts for 60.00% of the cost of the entire radar system. It is cheap for domestic use, but of course the export must be in line with international standards.Lao Maozi is no exception, at least Lao Maozi can still buy it, even if the Western world wants to buy it.
Hearing Qin Tao's words, Mr. Wang opened his eyes wide, and directly converted RMB into US dollars, which is the export price. If they successfully supply the new frigate developed by Mingzhou Group, they can also make a lot of money.
"Okay, let's continue talking, I'm going to accompany Lao Maozi."
When Qin Tao came back to look for Lao Maozi, they were still eating, and eating delicious food in the East was already an important project for them to come to the East.
"Mr. Qin, you came back so soon? How did the talk go?" Gushkov asked nervously. This matter is related to the development of their Fazatron Group. This is not just to build radar for the navy. Air Force fighters also need advanced radars and advanced T/R components.
"I asked. For the sake of our Mingzhou Group, they are willing to sell."
"Really? That's really great!" Gushkov finally let go of a hanging heart.
"What about the price?" asked Nikolai, who was most worried about this.
"In terms of price, it is the same as the domestic supply." Qin Tao said: "The products are divided into two types. The price of bipolar silicon is [-] US dollars per piece, and the price of gallium arsenide is [-] US dollars per piece."
"what?"
Gushkov was taken aback by the price.
Bipolar silicon is too backward, so it can’t be used for sure. You can only use gallium arsenide, which costs 500 dollars a piece. Even if only 6000 pieces are used for one phased array, it is [-] million dollars. [-] million US dollars, this is too expensive, right?
"Boss Qin, isn't the price a bit high?"
"Is it high? You can inquire and see how much the phased array radar antenna used on the warships being developed in the West costs." Qin Tao said: "It means that we in the East have advanced manufacturing technology to reduce the cost. I can tell you that when we built the first Aegis battleship, the four-sided phased array radar and each antenna cost over [-] million yuan."
Over [-] million!
These people have complicated eyes.
"Mr. Qin, we know this is very expensive, but we didn't expect it to be so expensive. If gallium arsenide is used to make a four-sided phased array, the price will exceed 6000 million. We also plan to use an S-band rotating phased array later. , if they are put together, the price will be unbearable."
"Then use bipolar silicon, and the cost can be reduced by half. I said that our first Aegis battleship uses bipolar silicon on the front, and the cost factor is considered."
Bipolar silicon is the worst, which is determined by basic physical conditions. For example, the movement speed of electrons in silicon wafers is five to ten times slower than that in gallium arsenide, and the signal transmission will naturally be slower.And the forbidden bandwidth is also poor.
The current mainstream is gallium arsenide, which has completely replaced the unreliable bipolar silicon. At the beginning, the 346 radar used a part of bipolar silicon to reduce costs.In fact, it doesn’t cost much to manufacture a single T/R module, but the problem is that the yield rate is low. If only one of a thousand units is usable, the price of this one will have to be sold at the price of a thousand units.
The price of domestically produced products is now cheap, mainly because of the increase in yield.
Gallium arsenide is still the mainstream in the world, and the price in the Western world is much higher than Qin Tao's quotation, which is enough to convince Lao Maozi that Qin is always their good friend and always considers their interests.
In fact, these are already outdated. The most advanced is gallium nitride. Its fusing temperature has reached [-] degrees, which is three times that of gallium arsenide. This high temperature means that it can work at a higher temperature. At high temperature, the power is greater and the time is longer. Its bandgap bandwidth is three times that of GaAs, and the energy density is ten times that of GaAs. These all make GaN a better phased array radar. Component materials.
Of course, gallium nitride cannot be sold, and it is already good to be able to sell gallium arsenide.
"It is already very good that we can purchase advanced T/R components from the East, and the issue of price is not a problem." Nikolai said.
The funding for the construction of this first warship comes from a special source, so they don’t have to worry about it. However, for the subsequent construction, the funding is really a big problem, but we will talk about it later, maybe in a few years, they will also be able to produce gallium arsenide T/ What about R components?
Nicholas made a decision on the spot. Although he preferred to hand over these equipments directly to Mingzhou Group for matching, he knew that there were domestic considerations in the country, and it would be very difficult for Mingzhou Group to build the hull. If the state group engages in other supporting facilities, there will be more voices of opposition.
"President Qin, can we go to the supplier of T/R components?" Gushkov made a new request.
"Look? Of course there is no problem." Qin Tao said: "I can take you there, but will the rest of you follow?"
The others shook their heads, this is really nothing to look at, the key is that they can't understand it either.
Qin Tao was able to send out the invitation because he couldn’t understand it. This thing can’t be learned just by looking at it, especially the preparation of materials is more critical. Who made us Dongfang the main supplier of gallium?Only we have a complete industrial chain, and only we can make the price down.
"Let's go to the capital and discuss with your navy about visiting the aircraft carrier." Nicholas said.
International Zhuang, 13 electrical departments.
"Our 13th Institute was founded in 1956, when it was still in the capital, and later moved to International Village in 63. We are the earliest, largest, and most powerful semiconductor research institute in China." The person in charge who came to the reception Zhang Chao introduced to everyone: "In the past few decades, we have created 36 domestic firsts in the field of semiconductors. For example, in 57, we manufactured our first transistor. The first silicon integrated circuit was developed, the first gallium arsenide integrated circuit was manufactured in 65, and the first semiconductor laser was manufactured in 82."
Qin Tao's eyes widened when he heard this: "Director Zhang, I didn't expect your institute to be so famous and powerful!"
"Well, the results only represent the past, not the present. We have long since fallen behind in the semiconductor field, and your Mingzhou Group is the number one." Zhang Chao said: "We are currently planning to purchase some semiconductor production from the Mingzhou Group. Equipment, including lithography machines and etching machines, etc., but has not been able to make enough purchase funds."
"Purchasing funds is not a matter. You can buy equipment first and pay back the money later, but I believe that you have advanced products and you will get enough funds soon."
As long as he completes the task of providing T/R components to Lao Maozi this time, he will earn tens of millions of dollars. Do you still have no money to purchase chip production equipment?
"President Qin, can you sell us your chip production equipment?" Gushkov asked suddenly.
I came here for an inspection, and the first stop was the honor room. Gushkov listened patiently to what the other party said, but now that he heard about the chip production equipment, he immediately thought of something. If he purchased the chip production equipment from the East, then Their chip production can quickly rise to a higher level.
"Sell it to you? Of course, no problem, you can just order it."
"Can we have credit?"
"Of course not. Our business is to make a profit after all. If you, the Fazatron Group, come to our east to start a business, we can pay on credit. After all, it is convenient to ask for an account."
What are you kidding, we have nothing to do with each other, why should I owe you credit?
Gushkov could only change the subject: "Shall we go to the production line next?"
"Production line? Not yet, let's go to the meeting room and introduce the characteristics of our T/R components to you. Aren't you going to purchase? We have to talk about it in detail."
Gushkov nodded. They really need to bring all the technical parameters, and they have to take back a few pieces of finished products, which can speed up the research and development progress. If the project is delayed, His Excellency Nikolai will definitely be unhappy.
In fact, Qin Tao couldn't understand these details, but since he was here, he had to go to the meeting, so let's take it as a way to join in the fun.
In the conference room, the two sides began to discuss. Various professional vocabulary made Qin Tao, an expert, feel dizzy, but there were some that he could understand.
"Yes, four-sided phased array radar requires a lot of computing power. We can no longer use military chips. We plan to use civilian Elbrus 2000 chips. Its performance is not much worse than your Godson-[-]. In our opinion, with this This kind of processor is fully capable of completing data processing tasks."
Speaking of Lao Maozi's electronics industry, many people will think of the wrong technology tree and the wrong path of electronic tube miniaturization. In fact, this is a complete misunderstanding. In the era of the Red Empire, Lao Maozi also had a chip industry, and it was not good enough. Poor, in terms of CPU, Elbrus is the most famous.
The first supercomputer of the Red Empire used Elbrus 2. In 86, Elbrus-3 appeared, which was the first 16-bit processor. If the Red Empire did not collapse, then The follow-up Elbrus will definitely replace Intel and AMD and become the most powerful processor in the world. (It is said that the Red Empire collapsed, and many old men went to the west, and Pentium-3 was the chief engineer of Lao Maozi.)
Some left, and some stayed. Those who stayed continued to conduct research and development at the Moscow SPARC Technology Center. Its predecessor was the Lebedev Institute of Precision Mechanics and Computing Technology in the era of the Red Empire. It was later renamed MCST (Moscow Center for SPARC Technologies), in 2000, they developed the Elbrus 2000 processor, which is a civilian processor based on the Elbrus-3 architecture, with a working frequency of 300 MHz. Compared with the world's advanced level, there is a big gap, but it is still enough Military use.
However, hearing what he said, Qin Tao couldn't help asking: "Are you sure that Elbrus 2000 has been developed?"
"Of course, can this be false?"
Well, since the other party is so sure, Qin Tao will not say anything. He remembers that this processor seems to be a PPT project. Because of the lack of research and development funds, he doesn't know how long it will take to get it out. The old man is in the military industry. The Elbrus-90 is used in the game. The structure is different from the former. Many anti-aircraft weapons are used. Although it is mature, its processing power is seriously insufficient.
When the hull is built and the old man installs the weapon system, they will find that their own processor is still in the PPT stage. What should we do then?Project delay is certain, but Qin Tao has fulfilled his obligation to remind.
The meeting lasted for more than two hours, and finally all the technical parameters were determined. Gushkov said, "Can we go to the production line now?"
"Okay, now I can take you to visit." Zhang Chao replied, after all this time, it was only half an hour before getting off work, and he just passed by after a quick look.
The workshop was clean and tidy, and everyone was working in dust-proof clothing. Gushkov couldn't get enough of the step-by-step manufacturing process. After a while, he was taken out with the excuse of leaving get off work.
After eating together, Gushkov went to the guest house to rest, and Zhang Chao finally had time to communicate with Qin Tao alone.
"Thank you, Mr. Qin, for introducing us to a big customer. We negotiated just now that they want to purchase 5000 yuan for X-band T/R components and 5000 yuan for S-band T/R components. Great deal!"
"Well, I've already reported the price to them. It's 1 dollars each, so that's 4000 million dollars... Wait, no, why do they want so much? Just their four-sided shield, [-] dollars is enough That's enough, [-] yuan is enough for the rotating phased array at the back, they are funding for the Black Navy!"
Fazatron's main research is not shipboard radar, but airborne radar. They asked for so much this time, not only can they build relevant radars for the navy, but they can also build two or three airborne radars at the same time!
They must be short of research funding, and there is no relevant unit to provide them with qualified T/R components. Now that they have slashed the navy, they can survive this test.
Hearing what Qin Tao said, Zhang Chao's face became serious.
"President Qin, I heard that you have a good relationship with Mr. Nicholas of Damao Navy. Since the people in Fazatron are so excessive, do you want to explain this situation to Mr. Nicholas and reduce the order?"
"Reduce? Why should we reduce? We only order and sell goods, we don't care about other things, this is their internal matter, our export may be a one-shot deal this time, of course, the more we sell, the better." Qin Tao said : "In this way, we 13 have sufficient funds to update equipment and invest in the research and development of more advanced equipment!"
Who is Qin Tao on good terms with?Of course it's not Lao Maozi, but a domestic military research and development personnel! A well-known company like 13 needs to make more money, so as to form a healthy development, even if it cheats the old man, it should be taken for granted.
Hearing Qin Tao's words, Zhang Chao's heart was filled with emotion: "Thank you, Mr. Qin! We will definitely work hard on research and development to make our military industry stronger!"
"Everyone, I'm very sorry, I need to excuse me for a moment." Qin Tao had an apologetic expression on his face: "The domestic phased array radar research and development unit we coordinated is here. Let me communicate with them first."
Boss Qin is so awesome, the request made in the morning was invited over at noon!Gushkov was very emotional. In Damao, it is quite fast to finish this kind of thing within a week.
"Go, Mr. Qin, we are waiting for your good news." Nicholas said.
This is of course just a coincidence. After Qin Tao arranged things yesterday, Yang Dawei went to contact the 23rd Institute. He originally made a phone call to contact the 23rd Institute. Unexpectedly, the [-]rd Institute was very excited after receiving the news. They didn't need Yang Dawei to go over to get the materials. send it here!
So, it happened to catch up with Da Mao's demand, so it just sold to Da Mao to save face, see, we pay more attention to your needs!
When Qin Tao came to the meeting room, there were already three or five people sitting in it, and the leader was Mr. Wang whom he had met when he was bidding. He was a veteran with a high position in the 23rd institute, and he was in the 14th institute with Mr. Ben. same status.
"Old Wang, it's hard work for you to come all the way here." Qin Tao was very enthusiastic: "We just have this intention, and we may not be able to sell it. You don't need to be so enthusiastic."
"Now is the era of market economy. We can do it, and so can the 14th institute. Of course, we have to catch up with your Mingzhou Group." Wang Lao said.
Now the Aegis battleship's phased array radar is provided by 14. Their radar array not only has S-band components, but also some C-band components, which are used to provide target illumination for the Hongqi IX missile, and the small The shield uses a C-band front, and this 14th institute can also make it, so their 23rd institute must seize the opportunity.
"Old Wang, since you are here, I have a question to ask."
There is no need for Qin Tao to ask questions about the matters entrusted to Yang Dawei. He needs to understand the questions of Nicholas and the others.
"President Qin, please speak."
"In addition to the overall support of our shipborne phased array radar, can we also provide T/R components separately?"
Qin Tao's words made Mr. Wang a little curious: "Mr. Qin, are you saying that some components on one front are broken and need to be replaced? This is best replaced by the supplier, and your shipyard may not be able to replace it. OK."
"No, I'm asking for someone else, a foreign client."
foreign customer?
Mr. Wang thought for a while, and then said: "Boss Qin, then we can't make the decision, after all, we don't produce T/R components."
"What, you don't produce it?" Now it was Qin Tao's turn to be shocked: "Then how do you make your phased array radar antenna?"
"President Qin, after these years of development, our phased array radar industry has developed. Whether it is ship-borne, land-based, airborne, military or aerospace, phased-array radar is needed. Our 23 Such a unit belongs to the assembly unit of phased array radar, and we also need to get goods from upstream suppliers."
"Upstream supplier?"
"That's right, we don't have a chip factory, how do we produce T/R components?"
In the past, the core of the radar was an electromagnetic tube, which was produced by a tube factory. Now the core of the radar is a T/R component, which is essentially an integrated circuit, so it needs to be produced by a chip manufacturer.
The 23rd Institute does not have this capability, so it must be direct procurement.
"Then what are the upstream production units of our domestic T/R modules?" Qin Tao was curious and continued to ask.
"The production of this kind of component is not easy. Although it can be used by civilians, it is mainly developed by the research institutes affiliated to the military industry group. In our country, the 13th and 55th institutes of the Electric Science Division are the main ones. By the way, why don't you Mingzhou Group Join in? If you come in, maybe you can develop more advanced T/R components."
This thing also has grades, the higher the technology, the smaller the volume produced, the lower the calorific value, the higher the yield, and the more advanced the performance.
"That is to say, we have to go to Institute 13 and Institute 55 to ask."
"Well, I have to ask them, but if you need it, Mr. Qin, I can just give them a call." Wang Lao said.
"Well, call later, I still have something to ask you."
"please say."
"Can our 13th and 55th institutes produce X-band components?"
"Of course you can. The X-band radar is used to support your fourth-generation stealth aircraft. Wait, Mr. Qin, you just asked about the shipboard radar, right? The main shipboard search radar doesn't use the X-band radar, right?"
"That's right, Mr. Qin, shipborne search radars are generally S-band, and C-band is rare, and X-band is not suitable at all."
The accuracy of the X-band is high, so it can be used as a fire control radar, but if it is to be used as the main search radar, the search distance is too short, unless more modules are superimposed. Later generations of the US Ford-class aircraft carrier are equipped with X-band AN The /SPY-3 multifunctional radar is used to accurately track targets, but it still has to be equipped with the S-band AN/SPY-4 long-range search radar, and the radar is very large.
"Yes, this band is not used, but the customer has a request."
"Okay, then let's ask together." Elder Wang asked, "Are there any other requirements?"
"temporarily unavailable."
Elder Wang picked up the phone.
"Old Zhao, I'm Lao Wang. I'd like to introduce you a business. Can your T/R components be sold abroad?"
"What, can you sell bipolar silicon and gallium arsenide components? What's the price?"
"okay, got it."
Putting down the phone, Mr. Wang looked at Qin Tao: "Mr. Qin, they said that they can sell the products of the previous generation and the previous two generations, and the price is not expensive. A single component of bipolar silicon costs [-] yuan, and that of gallium arsenide costs [-] yuan. .The frequency is optional."
"RMB or USD?" Qin Tao asked.
"Of course it is RMB." Wang Lao said: "Over the years, our domestic technology has developed rapidly, and the cost has long been reduced. The price they want, of which more than [-]% of the profit. After all, we are selling to the outside world, not for our own use. .”
When the Western world was still gnashing their teeth at the high price of phased array radar, the Eastern has been able to launch a large number of Aegis warships. The most important reason is to make this T/R component into a cabbage price. Of course, it is cheap for personal use. , sell to make money.
"Okay, then I'll convert these prices into US dollars and sell them to Lao Maozi." Qin Tao said: "It's time for our domestic institutions to make money."
The core of the active phased array radar is this antenna system, which accounts for 60.00% of the cost of the entire radar system. It is cheap for domestic use, but of course the export must be in line with international standards.Lao Maozi is no exception, at least Lao Maozi can still buy it, even if the Western world wants to buy it.
Hearing Qin Tao's words, Mr. Wang opened his eyes wide, and directly converted RMB into US dollars, which is the export price. If they successfully supply the new frigate developed by Mingzhou Group, they can also make a lot of money.
"Okay, let's continue talking, I'm going to accompany Lao Maozi."
When Qin Tao came back to look for Lao Maozi, they were still eating, and eating delicious food in the East was already an important project for them to come to the East.
"Mr. Qin, you came back so soon? How did the talk go?" Gushkov asked nervously. This matter is related to the development of their Fazatron Group. This is not just to build radar for the navy. Air Force fighters also need advanced radars and advanced T/R components.
"I asked. For the sake of our Mingzhou Group, they are willing to sell."
"Really? That's really great!" Gushkov finally let go of a hanging heart.
"What about the price?" asked Nikolai, who was most worried about this.
"In terms of price, it is the same as the domestic supply." Qin Tao said: "The products are divided into two types. The price of bipolar silicon is [-] US dollars per piece, and the price of gallium arsenide is [-] US dollars per piece."
"what?"
Gushkov was taken aback by the price.
Bipolar silicon is too backward, so it can’t be used for sure. You can only use gallium arsenide, which costs 500 dollars a piece. Even if only 6000 pieces are used for one phased array, it is [-] million dollars. [-] million US dollars, this is too expensive, right?
"Boss Qin, isn't the price a bit high?"
"Is it high? You can inquire and see how much the phased array radar antenna used on the warships being developed in the West costs." Qin Tao said: "It means that we in the East have advanced manufacturing technology to reduce the cost. I can tell you that when we built the first Aegis battleship, the four-sided phased array radar and each antenna cost over [-] million yuan."
Over [-] million!
These people have complicated eyes.
"Mr. Qin, we know this is very expensive, but we didn't expect it to be so expensive. If gallium arsenide is used to make a four-sided phased array, the price will exceed 6000 million. We also plan to use an S-band rotating phased array later. , if they are put together, the price will be unbearable."
"Then use bipolar silicon, and the cost can be reduced by half. I said that our first Aegis battleship uses bipolar silicon on the front, and the cost factor is considered."
Bipolar silicon is the worst, which is determined by basic physical conditions. For example, the movement speed of electrons in silicon wafers is five to ten times slower than that in gallium arsenide, and the signal transmission will naturally be slower.And the forbidden bandwidth is also poor.
The current mainstream is gallium arsenide, which has completely replaced the unreliable bipolar silicon. At the beginning, the 346 radar used a part of bipolar silicon to reduce costs.In fact, it doesn’t cost much to manufacture a single T/R module, but the problem is that the yield rate is low. If only one of a thousand units is usable, the price of this one will have to be sold at the price of a thousand units.
The price of domestically produced products is now cheap, mainly because of the increase in yield.
Gallium arsenide is still the mainstream in the world, and the price in the Western world is much higher than Qin Tao's quotation, which is enough to convince Lao Maozi that Qin is always their good friend and always considers their interests.
In fact, these are already outdated. The most advanced is gallium nitride. Its fusing temperature has reached [-] degrees, which is three times that of gallium arsenide. This high temperature means that it can work at a higher temperature. At high temperature, the power is greater and the time is longer. Its bandgap bandwidth is three times that of GaAs, and the energy density is ten times that of GaAs. These all make GaN a better phased array radar. Component materials.
Of course, gallium nitride cannot be sold, and it is already good to be able to sell gallium arsenide.
"It is already very good that we can purchase advanced T/R components from the East, and the issue of price is not a problem." Nikolai said.
The funding for the construction of this first warship comes from a special source, so they don’t have to worry about it. However, for the subsequent construction, the funding is really a big problem, but we will talk about it later, maybe in a few years, they will also be able to produce gallium arsenide T/ What about R components?
Nicholas made a decision on the spot. Although he preferred to hand over these equipments directly to Mingzhou Group for matching, he knew that there were domestic considerations in the country, and it would be very difficult for Mingzhou Group to build the hull. If the state group engages in other supporting facilities, there will be more voices of opposition.
"President Qin, can we go to the supplier of T/R components?" Gushkov made a new request.
"Look? Of course there is no problem." Qin Tao said: "I can take you there, but will the rest of you follow?"
The others shook their heads, this is really nothing to look at, the key is that they can't understand it either.
Qin Tao was able to send out the invitation because he couldn’t understand it. This thing can’t be learned just by looking at it, especially the preparation of materials is more critical. Who made us Dongfang the main supplier of gallium?Only we have a complete industrial chain, and only we can make the price down.
"Let's go to the capital and discuss with your navy about visiting the aircraft carrier." Nicholas said.
International Zhuang, 13 electrical departments.
"Our 13th Institute was founded in 1956, when it was still in the capital, and later moved to International Village in 63. We are the earliest, largest, and most powerful semiconductor research institute in China." The person in charge who came to the reception Zhang Chao introduced to everyone: "In the past few decades, we have created 36 domestic firsts in the field of semiconductors. For example, in 57, we manufactured our first transistor. The first silicon integrated circuit was developed, the first gallium arsenide integrated circuit was manufactured in 65, and the first semiconductor laser was manufactured in 82."
Qin Tao's eyes widened when he heard this: "Director Zhang, I didn't expect your institute to be so famous and powerful!"
"Well, the results only represent the past, not the present. We have long since fallen behind in the semiconductor field, and your Mingzhou Group is the number one." Zhang Chao said: "We are currently planning to purchase some semiconductor production from the Mingzhou Group. Equipment, including lithography machines and etching machines, etc., but has not been able to make enough purchase funds."
"Purchasing funds is not a matter. You can buy equipment first and pay back the money later, but I believe that you have advanced products and you will get enough funds soon."
As long as he completes the task of providing T/R components to Lao Maozi this time, he will earn tens of millions of dollars. Do you still have no money to purchase chip production equipment?
"President Qin, can you sell us your chip production equipment?" Gushkov asked suddenly.
I came here for an inspection, and the first stop was the honor room. Gushkov listened patiently to what the other party said, but now that he heard about the chip production equipment, he immediately thought of something. If he purchased the chip production equipment from the East, then Their chip production can quickly rise to a higher level.
"Sell it to you? Of course, no problem, you can just order it."
"Can we have credit?"
"Of course not. Our business is to make a profit after all. If you, the Fazatron Group, come to our east to start a business, we can pay on credit. After all, it is convenient to ask for an account."
What are you kidding, we have nothing to do with each other, why should I owe you credit?
Gushkov could only change the subject: "Shall we go to the production line next?"
"Production line? Not yet, let's go to the meeting room and introduce the characteristics of our T/R components to you. Aren't you going to purchase? We have to talk about it in detail."
Gushkov nodded. They really need to bring all the technical parameters, and they have to take back a few pieces of finished products, which can speed up the research and development progress. If the project is delayed, His Excellency Nikolai will definitely be unhappy.
In fact, Qin Tao couldn't understand these details, but since he was here, he had to go to the meeting, so let's take it as a way to join in the fun.
In the conference room, the two sides began to discuss. Various professional vocabulary made Qin Tao, an expert, feel dizzy, but there were some that he could understand.
"Yes, four-sided phased array radar requires a lot of computing power. We can no longer use military chips. We plan to use civilian Elbrus 2000 chips. Its performance is not much worse than your Godson-[-]. In our opinion, with this This kind of processor is fully capable of completing data processing tasks."
Speaking of Lao Maozi's electronics industry, many people will think of the wrong technology tree and the wrong path of electronic tube miniaturization. In fact, this is a complete misunderstanding. In the era of the Red Empire, Lao Maozi also had a chip industry, and it was not good enough. Poor, in terms of CPU, Elbrus is the most famous.
The first supercomputer of the Red Empire used Elbrus 2. In 86, Elbrus-3 appeared, which was the first 16-bit processor. If the Red Empire did not collapse, then The follow-up Elbrus will definitely replace Intel and AMD and become the most powerful processor in the world. (It is said that the Red Empire collapsed, and many old men went to the west, and Pentium-3 was the chief engineer of Lao Maozi.)
Some left, and some stayed. Those who stayed continued to conduct research and development at the Moscow SPARC Technology Center. Its predecessor was the Lebedev Institute of Precision Mechanics and Computing Technology in the era of the Red Empire. It was later renamed MCST (Moscow Center for SPARC Technologies), in 2000, they developed the Elbrus 2000 processor, which is a civilian processor based on the Elbrus-3 architecture, with a working frequency of 300 MHz. Compared with the world's advanced level, there is a big gap, but it is still enough Military use.
However, hearing what he said, Qin Tao couldn't help asking: "Are you sure that Elbrus 2000 has been developed?"
"Of course, can this be false?"
Well, since the other party is so sure, Qin Tao will not say anything. He remembers that this processor seems to be a PPT project. Because of the lack of research and development funds, he doesn't know how long it will take to get it out. The old man is in the military industry. The Elbrus-90 is used in the game. The structure is different from the former. Many anti-aircraft weapons are used. Although it is mature, its processing power is seriously insufficient.
When the hull is built and the old man installs the weapon system, they will find that their own processor is still in the PPT stage. What should we do then?Project delay is certain, but Qin Tao has fulfilled his obligation to remind.
The meeting lasted for more than two hours, and finally all the technical parameters were determined. Gushkov said, "Can we go to the production line now?"
"Okay, now I can take you to visit." Zhang Chao replied, after all this time, it was only half an hour before getting off work, and he just passed by after a quick look.
The workshop was clean and tidy, and everyone was working in dust-proof clothing. Gushkov couldn't get enough of the step-by-step manufacturing process. After a while, he was taken out with the excuse of leaving get off work.
After eating together, Gushkov went to the guest house to rest, and Zhang Chao finally had time to communicate with Qin Tao alone.
"Thank you, Mr. Qin, for introducing us to a big customer. We negotiated just now that they want to purchase 5000 yuan for X-band T/R components and 5000 yuan for S-band T/R components. Great deal!"
"Well, I've already reported the price to them. It's 1 dollars each, so that's 4000 million dollars... Wait, no, why do they want so much? Just their four-sided shield, [-] dollars is enough That's enough, [-] yuan is enough for the rotating phased array at the back, they are funding for the Black Navy!"
Fazatron's main research is not shipboard radar, but airborne radar. They asked for so much this time, not only can they build relevant radars for the navy, but they can also build two or three airborne radars at the same time!
They must be short of research funding, and there is no relevant unit to provide them with qualified T/R components. Now that they have slashed the navy, they can survive this test.
Hearing what Qin Tao said, Zhang Chao's face became serious.
"President Qin, I heard that you have a good relationship with Mr. Nicholas of Damao Navy. Since the people in Fazatron are so excessive, do you want to explain this situation to Mr. Nicholas and reduce the order?"
"Reduce? Why should we reduce? We only order and sell goods, we don't care about other things, this is their internal matter, our export may be a one-shot deal this time, of course, the more we sell, the better." Qin Tao said : "In this way, we 13 have sufficient funds to update equipment and invest in the research and development of more advanced equipment!"
Who is Qin Tao on good terms with?Of course it's not Lao Maozi, but a domestic military research and development personnel! A well-known company like 13 needs to make more money, so as to form a healthy development, even if it cheats the old man, it should be taken for granted.
Hearing Qin Tao's words, Zhang Chao's heart was filled with emotion: "Thank you, Mr. Qin! We will definitely work hard on research and development to make our military industry stronger!"
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