Chapter 402
"You used to always say that your favorite thing in the world is silver, but you were never greedy for ink, and you are indeed not greedy for ink." Zhu Yuanzhang said, "But now we want to take out the silver and distribute it to the people for their use. But you don’t want it for the people?”
"In our opinion, you are just a pure miser with a habit of collecting silver, and you can't walk when you see silver, and you are not really for the people of the world."
"Otherwise, you wouldn't hold those silver coins and never let go."
"The old minister dare not!" Lu Chang said tremblingly after hearing this.
Zhu Yuanzhang talked about this, and he no longer dared to stand up and object, and gave money to the people.
What's more, the Ming treasury is so rich now, the biggest credit is still the emperor.
Of course it is also Qin Yu's.
It has nothing to do with his Jin Xing Shangshu.
If it were changed to before, the treasury of the Ming Dynasty would already have tens of millions of taels of silver.
"Report to the emperor." At this time Yang Xian stood up and said, "The so-called taking from the people and using it for the people is the correct way to govern the country and is a benevolent government. But it is not used for the people in this way. silver?"
"Yes, using it for the people is definitely not as simple as distributing money."
After hearing this, the other ministers also agreed with Yang Xian's point of view.
"Because the common people don't understand how to maximize the benefits of money." Seeing that the officials agreed, Yang Xian continued to report, "Most of them will save their money, and they can't make money from money at all."
"In the end, their money still stays in the bank. What's the difference between this and not sending out silver?"
"It's the same as not giving money?" Zhu Yuanzhang smiled. "Having money in hand and not using it is completely different from not having money, okay? Yang Xian, go ahead."
"Only when the money is in the hands of the court, can it play its fullest role." Yang Xian said, "For example, the court can use money to build public facilities, build water conservancy projects, etc..."
"And if all the money is in the hands of the people, then the imperial court will not be able to do things that benefit the country and the people."
"Nonsense!" Zhu Yuanzhang said after hearing the words, "Since we want to shout slogans that we should take from the people and use them for the people, then the money belongs to the people. How the people want to use the money is their business. Why should we make decisions for them? "
"Why should we use their money for construction? Have they agreed?"
"So distributing money is really taking from the people and using it for the people."
"The so-called construction of water conservancy and public construction are all empty-headed things, and they are all fooling the people. Now some places like to engage in political achievement projects. They need to spend a lot of money to repair projects that obviously don't need to be repaired. , took the people’s money and squandered it.”
"Or, they took the opportunity to enrich themselves."
"Only by distributing money to the people can prevent such things from happening to the greatest extent, and it is truly for the benefit of the people."
"In addition, if a place needs construction, and the construction is indeed beneficial to the people, let the local people collectively vote. Let the people decide whether the project should be built, instead of letting others decide for them."
"Besides, the imperial court itself is a powerful force, and it still needs the support of the people to survive?"
"If you engage in overseas trade casually, or plunder a little from overseas, the imperial court can make a lot of money."
"The imperial court doesn't want to use its own power to get money from overseas and then do practical things for the people. Then the imperial court can only squeeze the internal people to make money. Therefore, a court that does not plunder wealth from outside will never be a good court."
Yang Xian fell silent when he heard the words, and retreated.
……
"Your Majesty, when you distribute money to the people, should you distribute money or Hongwu treasure notes?" Lu Chang asked again.
"Of course Hongwu treasure banknotes were distributed." Zhu Yuanzhang said, "Are you stupid to distribute real gold and silver stocks?"
Lu Chang was silent when he heard the words, and said after a long while: "In this case, the Banknote Bureau will be needed to print money day and night. Then it seems meaningless to distribute money to the people..."
"How did it lose its meaning?" Zhu Yuanzhang asked.
"This, old minister, the old minister doesn't know." Lu Chang said.
"Let me let you answer this question for Master Lu." At this time, Shangshu Shen Wansan stood up and said, "Master Lu means that there is only so much wealth in the entire Ming Dynasty."
"If Hongwubao banknotes are printed on a large scale and distributed to the common people, it will inevitably cause prices to rise."
"Then the people used to buy one shimi for one tael of silver, but only two taels of silver can buy a shimi for one shimi. So giving money to the people has lost its meaning, and their actual wealth has not increased."
"Master Shen is right!"
"Master Shen is still proficient in business affairs!"
……
When the ministers heard the words, they all said.
"Old minister, it is precisely this worry." Lu Chang said.
"Shen Wansan, what do you think?" Zhu Yuanzhang ignored the officials, but asked Shen Wansan.
"I also think that Master Lu Chang is right." Shen Wansan said after thinking for a while.
"Shen Wansan, you are our Minister of Commerce, in charge of business affairs across the country. If you are still like others, with such shallow insights, then you are not worthy to be our Minister of Commerce." Zhu Yuanzhang said.
"Your Majesty, I actually understand that the court's distribution of money to the people is not the same as whether it is given or not." Shen Wansan said, "The reason why I said that just now is because I am afraid that some people will be dissatisfied with my minister if I tell the truth."
It turned out that after Shen Wansan had been an official for a long time, he also learned the ways of the world.
In fact, he already knew the ways of the world very well before, otherwise he wouldn't have made such a big business.
At the time when he was the Shangshu of the Ministry of Commerce, he was the new official who took office three times, and he wanted to repay Zhu Yuanzhang's great kindness with all his blood.But after a long time, he began to hide his edge again, unwilling to offend people easily.
"Speak, we order you to speak directly." Zhu Yuanzhang said, "If you are afraid of offending others, then don't stay in the important position of Minister of Commerce."
"Minister, obey the order." Shen Wansan said after hearing the words.
"In fact, there is a huge difference between giving money to the people and not giving it." Shen Wansan said, "It is definitely not as everyone said. After giving money to the people, it will cause prices to rise, and the actual wealth of the people will not increase. .”
"The difference, to be honest, even a three-year-old child can understand."
"Therefore, the minister uses the incident of a three-year-old child as an analogy, and uses the incident of a five-year-old child as an analogy. I am afraid that those stupid people will not be able to understand."
"Okay." Zhu Yuanzhang said, "Tell me your analogy."
"In the village where Weichen lived before, there were ten children from tenant families and one child from a rich man's family. They were all three years old." Shen Wansan became bolder when he received Zhu Yuanzhang's approval.
(End of this chapter)
"You used to always say that your favorite thing in the world is silver, but you were never greedy for ink, and you are indeed not greedy for ink." Zhu Yuanzhang said, "But now we want to take out the silver and distribute it to the people for their use. But you don’t want it for the people?”
"In our opinion, you are just a pure miser with a habit of collecting silver, and you can't walk when you see silver, and you are not really for the people of the world."
"Otherwise, you wouldn't hold those silver coins and never let go."
"The old minister dare not!" Lu Chang said tremblingly after hearing this.
Zhu Yuanzhang talked about this, and he no longer dared to stand up and object, and gave money to the people.
What's more, the Ming treasury is so rich now, the biggest credit is still the emperor.
Of course it is also Qin Yu's.
It has nothing to do with his Jin Xing Shangshu.
If it were changed to before, the treasury of the Ming Dynasty would already have tens of millions of taels of silver.
"Report to the emperor." At this time Yang Xian stood up and said, "The so-called taking from the people and using it for the people is the correct way to govern the country and is a benevolent government. But it is not used for the people in this way. silver?"
"Yes, using it for the people is definitely not as simple as distributing money."
After hearing this, the other ministers also agreed with Yang Xian's point of view.
"Because the common people don't understand how to maximize the benefits of money." Seeing that the officials agreed, Yang Xian continued to report, "Most of them will save their money, and they can't make money from money at all."
"In the end, their money still stays in the bank. What's the difference between this and not sending out silver?"
"It's the same as not giving money?" Zhu Yuanzhang smiled. "Having money in hand and not using it is completely different from not having money, okay? Yang Xian, go ahead."
"Only when the money is in the hands of the court, can it play its fullest role." Yang Xian said, "For example, the court can use money to build public facilities, build water conservancy projects, etc..."
"And if all the money is in the hands of the people, then the imperial court will not be able to do things that benefit the country and the people."
"Nonsense!" Zhu Yuanzhang said after hearing the words, "Since we want to shout slogans that we should take from the people and use them for the people, then the money belongs to the people. How the people want to use the money is their business. Why should we make decisions for them? "
"Why should we use their money for construction? Have they agreed?"
"So distributing money is really taking from the people and using it for the people."
"The so-called construction of water conservancy and public construction are all empty-headed things, and they are all fooling the people. Now some places like to engage in political achievement projects. They need to spend a lot of money to repair projects that obviously don't need to be repaired. , took the people’s money and squandered it.”
"Or, they took the opportunity to enrich themselves."
"Only by distributing money to the people can prevent such things from happening to the greatest extent, and it is truly for the benefit of the people."
"In addition, if a place needs construction, and the construction is indeed beneficial to the people, let the local people collectively vote. Let the people decide whether the project should be built, instead of letting others decide for them."
"Besides, the imperial court itself is a powerful force, and it still needs the support of the people to survive?"
"If you engage in overseas trade casually, or plunder a little from overseas, the imperial court can make a lot of money."
"The imperial court doesn't want to use its own power to get money from overseas and then do practical things for the people. Then the imperial court can only squeeze the internal people to make money. Therefore, a court that does not plunder wealth from outside will never be a good court."
Yang Xian fell silent when he heard the words, and retreated.
……
"Your Majesty, when you distribute money to the people, should you distribute money or Hongwu treasure notes?" Lu Chang asked again.
"Of course Hongwu treasure banknotes were distributed." Zhu Yuanzhang said, "Are you stupid to distribute real gold and silver stocks?"
Lu Chang was silent when he heard the words, and said after a long while: "In this case, the Banknote Bureau will be needed to print money day and night. Then it seems meaningless to distribute money to the people..."
"How did it lose its meaning?" Zhu Yuanzhang asked.
"This, old minister, the old minister doesn't know." Lu Chang said.
"Let me let you answer this question for Master Lu." At this time, Shangshu Shen Wansan stood up and said, "Master Lu means that there is only so much wealth in the entire Ming Dynasty."
"If Hongwubao banknotes are printed on a large scale and distributed to the common people, it will inevitably cause prices to rise."
"Then the people used to buy one shimi for one tael of silver, but only two taels of silver can buy a shimi for one shimi. So giving money to the people has lost its meaning, and their actual wealth has not increased."
"Master Shen is right!"
"Master Shen is still proficient in business affairs!"
……
When the ministers heard the words, they all said.
"Old minister, it is precisely this worry." Lu Chang said.
"Shen Wansan, what do you think?" Zhu Yuanzhang ignored the officials, but asked Shen Wansan.
"I also think that Master Lu Chang is right." Shen Wansan said after thinking for a while.
"Shen Wansan, you are our Minister of Commerce, in charge of business affairs across the country. If you are still like others, with such shallow insights, then you are not worthy to be our Minister of Commerce." Zhu Yuanzhang said.
"Your Majesty, I actually understand that the court's distribution of money to the people is not the same as whether it is given or not." Shen Wansan said, "The reason why I said that just now is because I am afraid that some people will be dissatisfied with my minister if I tell the truth."
It turned out that after Shen Wansan had been an official for a long time, he also learned the ways of the world.
In fact, he already knew the ways of the world very well before, otherwise he wouldn't have made such a big business.
At the time when he was the Shangshu of the Ministry of Commerce, he was the new official who took office three times, and he wanted to repay Zhu Yuanzhang's great kindness with all his blood.But after a long time, he began to hide his edge again, unwilling to offend people easily.
"Speak, we order you to speak directly." Zhu Yuanzhang said, "If you are afraid of offending others, then don't stay in the important position of Minister of Commerce."
"Minister, obey the order." Shen Wansan said after hearing the words.
"In fact, there is a huge difference between giving money to the people and not giving it." Shen Wansan said, "It is definitely not as everyone said. After giving money to the people, it will cause prices to rise, and the actual wealth of the people will not increase. .”
"The difference, to be honest, even a three-year-old child can understand."
"Therefore, the minister uses the incident of a three-year-old child as an analogy, and uses the incident of a five-year-old child as an analogy. I am afraid that those stupid people will not be able to understand."
"Okay." Zhu Yuanzhang said, "Tell me your analogy."
"In the village where Weichen lived before, there were ten children from tenant families and one child from a rich man's family. They were all three years old." Shen Wansan became bolder when he received Zhu Yuanzhang's approval.
(End of this chapter)
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