Daming 1805
Chapter 22 After all, we have to wait until the experiment is successful
Chapter 22 After all, we have to wait until the experiment is successful
Facing Zhu Jingyuan's request to apply separately, Zou Bingtai was a little surprised, but he soon understood the reason.
Then he sighed in his heart, what His Highness thought was really far-reaching.
It's just that the premise of all this is that the experiment can be successful, otherwise it's just a mess:
"His Royal Highness has considered it very comprehensively, so I will first patent the two schemes today. After the experiment is successful, His Highness will come again."
"Thank you Da Sikong."
Zhu Jingyuan smiled and nodded again, thanking him, and then Zhu Jingyuan immediately considered that the Ministry of Industry also contributed to the "inventing" of the plane.
I just provided the idea and direction. The specific design and production of the aircraft itself were completed by the craftsmen of the Ministry of Industry.
Under the principle of "invent first", the inventor must make a real object before applying for a patent. If considered in this way, the Ministry of Industry can even be regarded as the main inventor.
Moreover, if Zou Lao Shangshu did not remind and help himself, he would probably not be able to obtain the patent for this aircraft.
In addition, the Ministry of Industry is also the competent authority for industry and patents, and I will have to deal with them in the future.
Therefore, after careful consideration, Zhu Jingyuan decided to take the initiative to benefit from the ownership of the patent and distribute a part to the Ministry of Industry.
Even if it is his own exclusive use, the other party should not embarrass his grandson in the future.
However, if you distribute the patent income to the other party, you can bind the competent authority as a collaborator.
In the future, the Ministry of Industry will be more proactive and cooperative, whether it is handling industrial procedures or applying for and combating patent infringement.
So Zhu Jingyuan spoke his thoughts out of the stubborn words:
"Without the help of Da Sikong and the great workers in the Ministry of Industry, I would not have been able to complete the design and experiment by myself.
"So the plane should be regarded as a joint invention of both of us, and the benefits should also be shared with the Ministry of Industry."
Zou Bingtai immediately waved his hand with a smile:
"His Royal Highness is really too modest, the Ministry of Industry is just adding new solutions to the large number of projects that are already being tested.
"Having the Ministry of Industry share the profits with private inventors is more troublesome than private individuals, whether it is declaration or appraisal, and receipt of payment is another process.
"Furthermore, isn't this experiment a success yet? Does Your Highness now think that this experiment will be successful?
"In fact, most of the craftsmen in the Ministry of Industry do not recognize fixed wings, and some people even compare them with perpetual motion machines.
"The reason Your Highness has said it himself. Taking off without waving your wings is a kite flying, but this patent requires the ability to take off without wind..."
Zhu Jingyuan felt a little helpless, the old man seemed to have chatted with him and started to talk about his thoughts.
Although it is euphemistic to say it in the name of most of the craftsmen of the Ministry of Industry, but in his own heart, he probably does not think that fixed-wing aircraft can be successful.
In fact, this is also the case in history. Later generations saw the takeoff of the plane as a matter of course, but people at that time could not understand it, because the wings of the fixed-wing aircraft would not move.
After the Wright Brothers experiment hit the papers, many people still took it for granted as gimmicky fake news, including the U.S. Army...
Zou Lao Shangshu obviously did not want to go through a very complicated set of administrative approval, declaration and registration procedures for this kind of ignorant matter.
But Zhu Jingyuan felt that if he could, he still had to give it.
Otherwise, if you make a lot of money in the future, most of the people in the Ministry of Industry will feel uncomfortable, and you will have to deal with them often in the future.
So Zhu Jingyuan continued to insist:
"Da Sikong, even if the Ministry of Industry did not cooperate specifically, this experiment was completed by both of us, so at least [-]% of the income should be given to the Ministry of Engineering."
Zou Shangshu was obviously stunned when he heard it, and then shifted his posture slightly, pulling his fingers to reason:
"It seems that His Royal Highness is really very confident in his own vision. Let's not talk about whether the experiment will be successful or not. Your Highness, listen to the old man to tell you about the aircraft itself.
"Have you ever thought about what parts are left on the fixed-wing flying machine besides the wings and rudder surfaces designed by His Royal Highness?
"A minimal gasoline engine with two propellers, then a few steel pipes and wheels as the frame.
"So, even if this experiment is really successful, then it is His Highness's two ideas, the wing shape and the control method, which play an absolute leading role in the project.
"His Royal Highness went out and hired two engineering college students to work, and then went to the market to buy materials and tools. The old man estimated that three to fifty silver dollars could solve the problem.
"His Royal Highness is really willing to sell 50% of the profits of the flying machine patent that he is very confident in for this mere three and fifty silver dollars?"
Zhu Jingyuan sighed secretly, it seemed that the other party really didn't want to go through the process for such an uncertain thing, and after a little thought, he said:
"In this case, we don't sign any agreement. If the experiment is really successful, I will use [-]% of the patent revenue every year to organize an aviation industry association.
"The mission of the Aviation Industry Association is to promote and promote the development of the aviation industry, and at the same time serve as a communication platform for manufacturers and researchers.
"Relevant organizations are linked to the Ministry of Industry, and the corresponding funds are handed over to the Ministry of Industry to manage and organize the activities of industry associations.
"The Ministry of Industry should not be able to resign from the responsibility of promoting industrial and technological development, right?"
Zou Bingtai's beard trembled, he nodded helplessly and said slowly:
"Okay—His Royal Highness has said this, and the old man can only agree, but still that sentence, after all, we have to wait for the experiment to succeed."
Zhu Jingyuan felt that Zou Lao Shangshu still didn't pay much attention to it, and he didn't realize how big the profit was.
This is 20% of the foundation of an entire industry. All aircraft production in the next [-] years will involve this patent.
More importantly, the aviation industry association, which has not yet written a word, has unlimited future prospects.
I wonder if the future officials of the Ministry of Industry will be annoyed by the decision of Lao Shangshu today.
But since the other party has already agreed, Zhu Jingyuan no longer tangled, and quickly changed to another topic:
"Thank you Da Sikong, let's talk about the battleship design next. I dare to ask Da Sikong, does the ship division have a design plan for a battleship that uses fully equipped main guns for centralized fire control?"
Zhu Jingyuan finally talked about the highlight of today.
The real future of aircraft and tanks is more than ten or twenty years away, but the future of dreadnoughts is just around the corner.
Although it is said that with the design, construction and testing cycle of the capital ship, it is impossible to complete it within a year even if it is accelerated.
Therefore, the newly designed warships must be difficult to affect the peace talks.
However, after the peace talks are over, he may not have the power and qualifications to directly interfere in the design and construction of the battleship.
At the same time, the design of warships using two four large-caliber main guns and several sub-caliber artillery guns was almost a standard design in this period.
The dreadnought battleship that I want is to give up those fixed sub-caliber artillery, and all use a unified large-caliber main gun.
This model seems to be taken for granted in later generations, but it was an extremely radical idea at the time.
The designers of the military and the Ministry of Industry cannot intuitively recognize the role of this design until they see the effect directly.
The key point is that the cost of the capital ship is high, and the construction period is long.
In the history of the British Empire, the first dreadnought was built for one test, and the improved version was only built in batches of three.
However, in the previous traditional capital ships, it was normal to have five or six ships in the first class, and even eight or nine ships, and they have been built continuously for many years.
从1892至1906年,14年间建造了9级,共计52艘传统主力舰,平均每年3.7艘。
It can be seen that the British Imperial Navy at that time was also very cautious about the design of dreadnoughts, just as everyone treated aircraft carriers in the early days.
Therefore, Zhu Jingyuan felt that if he did not take advantage of his current power to forcefully promote the design and construction of dreadnoughts, he might have to wait for several years before he could see mass-produced dreadnoughts.
His current forcible push can make the Imperial Navy fearless a few years ahead of schedule.
As soon as the dreadnoughts are released, all the original battleships will be eliminated. The sooner they become completely dreadnoughts, the more resources they can save and their combat effectiveness will be improved.
Therefore, even if it is temporarily unavailable, Zhu Jingyuan must submit it as soon as possible.
(End of this chapter)
Facing Zhu Jingyuan's request to apply separately, Zou Bingtai was a little surprised, but he soon understood the reason.
Then he sighed in his heart, what His Highness thought was really far-reaching.
It's just that the premise of all this is that the experiment can be successful, otherwise it's just a mess:
"His Royal Highness has considered it very comprehensively, so I will first patent the two schemes today. After the experiment is successful, His Highness will come again."
"Thank you Da Sikong."
Zhu Jingyuan smiled and nodded again, thanking him, and then Zhu Jingyuan immediately considered that the Ministry of Industry also contributed to the "inventing" of the plane.
I just provided the idea and direction. The specific design and production of the aircraft itself were completed by the craftsmen of the Ministry of Industry.
Under the principle of "invent first", the inventor must make a real object before applying for a patent. If considered in this way, the Ministry of Industry can even be regarded as the main inventor.
Moreover, if Zou Lao Shangshu did not remind and help himself, he would probably not be able to obtain the patent for this aircraft.
In addition, the Ministry of Industry is also the competent authority for industry and patents, and I will have to deal with them in the future.
Therefore, after careful consideration, Zhu Jingyuan decided to take the initiative to benefit from the ownership of the patent and distribute a part to the Ministry of Industry.
Even if it is his own exclusive use, the other party should not embarrass his grandson in the future.
However, if you distribute the patent income to the other party, you can bind the competent authority as a collaborator.
In the future, the Ministry of Industry will be more proactive and cooperative, whether it is handling industrial procedures or applying for and combating patent infringement.
So Zhu Jingyuan spoke his thoughts out of the stubborn words:
"Without the help of Da Sikong and the great workers in the Ministry of Industry, I would not have been able to complete the design and experiment by myself.
"So the plane should be regarded as a joint invention of both of us, and the benefits should also be shared with the Ministry of Industry."
Zou Bingtai immediately waved his hand with a smile:
"His Royal Highness is really too modest, the Ministry of Industry is just adding new solutions to the large number of projects that are already being tested.
"Having the Ministry of Industry share the profits with private inventors is more troublesome than private individuals, whether it is declaration or appraisal, and receipt of payment is another process.
"Furthermore, isn't this experiment a success yet? Does Your Highness now think that this experiment will be successful?
"In fact, most of the craftsmen in the Ministry of Industry do not recognize fixed wings, and some people even compare them with perpetual motion machines.
"The reason Your Highness has said it himself. Taking off without waving your wings is a kite flying, but this patent requires the ability to take off without wind..."
Zhu Jingyuan felt a little helpless, the old man seemed to have chatted with him and started to talk about his thoughts.
Although it is euphemistic to say it in the name of most of the craftsmen of the Ministry of Industry, but in his own heart, he probably does not think that fixed-wing aircraft can be successful.
In fact, this is also the case in history. Later generations saw the takeoff of the plane as a matter of course, but people at that time could not understand it, because the wings of the fixed-wing aircraft would not move.
After the Wright Brothers experiment hit the papers, many people still took it for granted as gimmicky fake news, including the U.S. Army...
Zou Lao Shangshu obviously did not want to go through a very complicated set of administrative approval, declaration and registration procedures for this kind of ignorant matter.
But Zhu Jingyuan felt that if he could, he still had to give it.
Otherwise, if you make a lot of money in the future, most of the people in the Ministry of Industry will feel uncomfortable, and you will have to deal with them often in the future.
So Zhu Jingyuan continued to insist:
"Da Sikong, even if the Ministry of Industry did not cooperate specifically, this experiment was completed by both of us, so at least [-]% of the income should be given to the Ministry of Engineering."
Zou Shangshu was obviously stunned when he heard it, and then shifted his posture slightly, pulling his fingers to reason:
"It seems that His Royal Highness is really very confident in his own vision. Let's not talk about whether the experiment will be successful or not. Your Highness, listen to the old man to tell you about the aircraft itself.
"Have you ever thought about what parts are left on the fixed-wing flying machine besides the wings and rudder surfaces designed by His Royal Highness?
"A minimal gasoline engine with two propellers, then a few steel pipes and wheels as the frame.
"So, even if this experiment is really successful, then it is His Highness's two ideas, the wing shape and the control method, which play an absolute leading role in the project.
"His Royal Highness went out and hired two engineering college students to work, and then went to the market to buy materials and tools. The old man estimated that three to fifty silver dollars could solve the problem.
"His Royal Highness is really willing to sell 50% of the profits of the flying machine patent that he is very confident in for this mere three and fifty silver dollars?"
Zhu Jingyuan sighed secretly, it seemed that the other party really didn't want to go through the process for such an uncertain thing, and after a little thought, he said:
"In this case, we don't sign any agreement. If the experiment is really successful, I will use [-]% of the patent revenue every year to organize an aviation industry association.
"The mission of the Aviation Industry Association is to promote and promote the development of the aviation industry, and at the same time serve as a communication platform for manufacturers and researchers.
"Relevant organizations are linked to the Ministry of Industry, and the corresponding funds are handed over to the Ministry of Industry to manage and organize the activities of industry associations.
"The Ministry of Industry should not be able to resign from the responsibility of promoting industrial and technological development, right?"
Zou Bingtai's beard trembled, he nodded helplessly and said slowly:
"Okay—His Royal Highness has said this, and the old man can only agree, but still that sentence, after all, we have to wait for the experiment to succeed."
Zhu Jingyuan felt that Zou Lao Shangshu still didn't pay much attention to it, and he didn't realize how big the profit was.
This is 20% of the foundation of an entire industry. All aircraft production in the next [-] years will involve this patent.
More importantly, the aviation industry association, which has not yet written a word, has unlimited future prospects.
I wonder if the future officials of the Ministry of Industry will be annoyed by the decision of Lao Shangshu today.
But since the other party has already agreed, Zhu Jingyuan no longer tangled, and quickly changed to another topic:
"Thank you Da Sikong, let's talk about the battleship design next. I dare to ask Da Sikong, does the ship division have a design plan for a battleship that uses fully equipped main guns for centralized fire control?"
Zhu Jingyuan finally talked about the highlight of today.
The real future of aircraft and tanks is more than ten or twenty years away, but the future of dreadnoughts is just around the corner.
Although it is said that with the design, construction and testing cycle of the capital ship, it is impossible to complete it within a year even if it is accelerated.
Therefore, the newly designed warships must be difficult to affect the peace talks.
However, after the peace talks are over, he may not have the power and qualifications to directly interfere in the design and construction of the battleship.
At the same time, the design of warships using two four large-caliber main guns and several sub-caliber artillery guns was almost a standard design in this period.
The dreadnought battleship that I want is to give up those fixed sub-caliber artillery, and all use a unified large-caliber main gun.
This model seems to be taken for granted in later generations, but it was an extremely radical idea at the time.
The designers of the military and the Ministry of Industry cannot intuitively recognize the role of this design until they see the effect directly.
The key point is that the cost of the capital ship is high, and the construction period is long.
In the history of the British Empire, the first dreadnought was built for one test, and the improved version was only built in batches of three.
However, in the previous traditional capital ships, it was normal to have five or six ships in the first class, and even eight or nine ships, and they have been built continuously for many years.
从1892至1906年,14年间建造了9级,共计52艘传统主力舰,平均每年3.7艘。
It can be seen that the British Imperial Navy at that time was also very cautious about the design of dreadnoughts, just as everyone treated aircraft carriers in the early days.
Therefore, Zhu Jingyuan felt that if he did not take advantage of his current power to forcefully promote the design and construction of dreadnoughts, he might have to wait for several years before he could see mass-produced dreadnoughts.
His current forcible push can make the Imperial Navy fearless a few years ahead of schedule.
As soon as the dreadnoughts are released, all the original battleships will be eliminated. The sooner they become completely dreadnoughts, the more resources they can save and their combat effectiveness will be improved.
Therefore, even if it is temporarily unavailable, Zhu Jingyuan must submit it as soon as possible.
(End of this chapter)
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