Rekindle 2003
Chapter 239
Chapter 239
The joke Gao Youping said is indeed a joke, but it is also the bitter tears of many programmers.
In Qingyun's view, this joke is basically the most problems that customers can encounter in the whole process of a product's development.
In the middle, there are customers' wonderful requirements and whimsical ideas, as well as troubles caused by market personnel who do not understand technology.
He also understood Gao Youping's meaning. In fact, the market staff can avoid a lot of trouble if they know a little bit about technology.
Gao Youping shrugged his shoulders, "The above is just an exaggerated comparison, and the example I gave is a bit extreme.
But the sad chef inside is indeed the current status of technicians.
Mr. Xiaoqing, we don't care what we say. "
Qing Yun smiled and nodded, "The reason why I invite you to the lounge is that I want to use this brainstorming style to let everyone express their views on the company's future development.
So, Mr. Gao, don’t care what the topic is, talk more about your views. This will help me sort out my thoughts and the future development of Yanhuang Group. "
Gao Youping took a deep look at the young man in front of him, then heaved a long sigh, "Mr. Xiaoqing, why didn't you show up earlier!"
Compared with market personnel who understand technology, in fact, for technical personnel, such a respectful and virtuous leader is really rare.
After that, he covered his face with his hands, rubbed it vigorously, and continued,
"Except that the company status of technologists needs to improve.
In fact, I think there is also a disadvantage in the management of the domestic software industry. The front and back ends of software development are too separated. This is not just a problem with TOP, but all domestic companies have this problem.
Good marketing personnel in reality... In fact, I prefer to call them product managers according to foreign companies.
A good product manager should have a very complete long-term and short-term plan for a project.
With this kind of planning, certain functions will not be transferred at will, and the project team will have a better understanding of the project.
A good product manager should also understand data and technology, at least the communication is on the same channel, and it is also convenient for each other to use facts to convince each other.
In the end, I think that a good product manager should know how to coordinate and communicate, rather than dictatorial, or flattering customers blindly.
For the needs that can be realized, we will realize them. For the needs that cannot be realized, we will try our best to do our best, but for the needs that are completely impossible, the product manager must have a spectrum in his heart, and he must know how to refuse.
So, Mr. Xiaoqing, I personally really suggest that TOP... oh no, Yanhuang Group, a certain percentage of product managers in the future can be selected from technical personnel, which has both market sensitivity and tolerance for technology and understanding.
A technologist is not just a tool for writing code.
I still remember what Song Ruhua said before we left the company. He said, 'I can sell a tree for 5 yuan a year, but what does supporting a technician bring me? '
In his view, all the orders come from the market personnel, and the technicians just fulfill the orders they get back according to the needs.
However, Mr. Xiaoqing, it is not only the marketers who make money for the company, but also the technicians who implement the software.
Without the code we write, where will the software function be realized?
Writing code is not something that a so-called technical secondary school student can achieve!It is a knowledge industry with high threshold requirements, Song Ruhua is playing the piano completely! "
Seeing Gao Youping getting emotional, Yan Kaiyuan on the side pulled him, and continued,
"President Xiaoqing, what Lao Gao said is actually correct. To tell you the truth, I am currently engaged in the development of a project in the telecommunications industry in the design institute where I work. Eleven of the twelve people in my team are from TOP.
At the end of 2001, I resigned from TOP. At the beginning of 2002, I was the lead author to formulate the business and technical specifications of the engineering project management information system for Huaguo Telecom Group.
The telecom group company was the first to choose our products. In 2002, the software products we developed according to this specification won a contract amount of more than 700 million for the design institute, and the products were directly put into use in twelve southern provinces of China Telecom. At the same time, the product was put into use in three provincial-level companies of China Netcom.
From software development to marketing of this product, there is no so-called management personnel involved, and no so-called marketing personnel. Everything is based on the twelve of us.
May I ask, why do we technicians who are not making money according to Boss Song suddenly learn to make money after leaving TOP?
This is not the case, but a mechanical problem.
Therefore, if you are willing to make large-scale adjustments to the software institute, please be sure to consider the voice of the technical staff. "
Qing Yun nodded, "I understand your opinions.
Let's start from the beginning.
This is how I look at the company's salary and treatment for technical personnel.
A good company should give new employees a good and relaxed room for growth. If they come up, they will be paid high wages, which is not conducive to the development of employees and the company.
From now on in Yanhuang Group, the salary of new employees must be the average salary level in the industry, it will not be lower than the average, and it will never be too high.
However, the promotion mechanism will be greatly adjusted.
To put it simply, I am going to recreate a sequence outside of the position, which is the rank.
This not only allows technicians to have room for salary promotion, but also allows technicians to increase their voice in the company.
This is what I think, for professional matters, rank has the final say, and for management matters, position has the final say.
Don't look at me this way, this method is actually not trendy at all, and factories like Compal Wistron and Foxconn are using it.
Of course, if a rank system is established, a relatively strict evaluation system will be established accordingly.
Those who can go up, and those who are mediocre go down.
While ensuring that technical personnel will have a stable development regardless of their rank or salary level, it is also to prevent the situation of sleeping on the credit book. "
Speaking of this, Qing Yun felt no pressure at all.
The methods used by later generations of big manufacturers are actually very scientific, and they can be used directly.
Everyone in Fangyuan looked at each other, and each of them saw the meaning of excitement in each other's eyes.
Especially Fang Yuan, who loves technology, doesn't like management at all.
But there is a good wife in the family, who always pushes him to make progress. From time to time, he will say which best friend's husband has become a supervisor, and whose husband has been promoted again.
It's not that his wife dislikes him, this is just a trivial matter of couples chatting.
But the psychological pressure on Fangyuan himself was not so great.
Well now, with the path of promotion, not only will the income increase, but the wife will go out and chat with her girlfriends, and there is no need to say that her husband is a code farmer.
(End of this chapter)
The joke Gao Youping said is indeed a joke, but it is also the bitter tears of many programmers.
In Qingyun's view, this joke is basically the most problems that customers can encounter in the whole process of a product's development.
In the middle, there are customers' wonderful requirements and whimsical ideas, as well as troubles caused by market personnel who do not understand technology.
He also understood Gao Youping's meaning. In fact, the market staff can avoid a lot of trouble if they know a little bit about technology.
Gao Youping shrugged his shoulders, "The above is just an exaggerated comparison, and the example I gave is a bit extreme.
But the sad chef inside is indeed the current status of technicians.
Mr. Xiaoqing, we don't care what we say. "
Qing Yun smiled and nodded, "The reason why I invite you to the lounge is that I want to use this brainstorming style to let everyone express their views on the company's future development.
So, Mr. Gao, don’t care what the topic is, talk more about your views. This will help me sort out my thoughts and the future development of Yanhuang Group. "
Gao Youping took a deep look at the young man in front of him, then heaved a long sigh, "Mr. Xiaoqing, why didn't you show up earlier!"
Compared with market personnel who understand technology, in fact, for technical personnel, such a respectful and virtuous leader is really rare.
After that, he covered his face with his hands, rubbed it vigorously, and continued,
"Except that the company status of technologists needs to improve.
In fact, I think there is also a disadvantage in the management of the domestic software industry. The front and back ends of software development are too separated. This is not just a problem with TOP, but all domestic companies have this problem.
Good marketing personnel in reality... In fact, I prefer to call them product managers according to foreign companies.
A good product manager should have a very complete long-term and short-term plan for a project.
With this kind of planning, certain functions will not be transferred at will, and the project team will have a better understanding of the project.
A good product manager should also understand data and technology, at least the communication is on the same channel, and it is also convenient for each other to use facts to convince each other.
In the end, I think that a good product manager should know how to coordinate and communicate, rather than dictatorial, or flattering customers blindly.
For the needs that can be realized, we will realize them. For the needs that cannot be realized, we will try our best to do our best, but for the needs that are completely impossible, the product manager must have a spectrum in his heart, and he must know how to refuse.
So, Mr. Xiaoqing, I personally really suggest that TOP... oh no, Yanhuang Group, a certain percentage of product managers in the future can be selected from technical personnel, which has both market sensitivity and tolerance for technology and understanding.
A technologist is not just a tool for writing code.
I still remember what Song Ruhua said before we left the company. He said, 'I can sell a tree for 5 yuan a year, but what does supporting a technician bring me? '
In his view, all the orders come from the market personnel, and the technicians just fulfill the orders they get back according to the needs.
However, Mr. Xiaoqing, it is not only the marketers who make money for the company, but also the technicians who implement the software.
Without the code we write, where will the software function be realized?
Writing code is not something that a so-called technical secondary school student can achieve!It is a knowledge industry with high threshold requirements, Song Ruhua is playing the piano completely! "
Seeing Gao Youping getting emotional, Yan Kaiyuan on the side pulled him, and continued,
"President Xiaoqing, what Lao Gao said is actually correct. To tell you the truth, I am currently engaged in the development of a project in the telecommunications industry in the design institute where I work. Eleven of the twelve people in my team are from TOP.
At the end of 2001, I resigned from TOP. At the beginning of 2002, I was the lead author to formulate the business and technical specifications of the engineering project management information system for Huaguo Telecom Group.
The telecom group company was the first to choose our products. In 2002, the software products we developed according to this specification won a contract amount of more than 700 million for the design institute, and the products were directly put into use in twelve southern provinces of China Telecom. At the same time, the product was put into use in three provincial-level companies of China Netcom.
From software development to marketing of this product, there is no so-called management personnel involved, and no so-called marketing personnel. Everything is based on the twelve of us.
May I ask, why do we technicians who are not making money according to Boss Song suddenly learn to make money after leaving TOP?
This is not the case, but a mechanical problem.
Therefore, if you are willing to make large-scale adjustments to the software institute, please be sure to consider the voice of the technical staff. "
Qing Yun nodded, "I understand your opinions.
Let's start from the beginning.
This is how I look at the company's salary and treatment for technical personnel.
A good company should give new employees a good and relaxed room for growth. If they come up, they will be paid high wages, which is not conducive to the development of employees and the company.
From now on in Yanhuang Group, the salary of new employees must be the average salary level in the industry, it will not be lower than the average, and it will never be too high.
However, the promotion mechanism will be greatly adjusted.
To put it simply, I am going to recreate a sequence outside of the position, which is the rank.
This not only allows technicians to have room for salary promotion, but also allows technicians to increase their voice in the company.
This is what I think, for professional matters, rank has the final say, and for management matters, position has the final say.
Don't look at me this way, this method is actually not trendy at all, and factories like Compal Wistron and Foxconn are using it.
Of course, if a rank system is established, a relatively strict evaluation system will be established accordingly.
Those who can go up, and those who are mediocre go down.
While ensuring that technical personnel will have a stable development regardless of their rank or salary level, it is also to prevent the situation of sleeping on the credit book. "
Speaking of this, Qing Yun felt no pressure at all.
The methods used by later generations of big manufacturers are actually very scientific, and they can be used directly.
Everyone in Fangyuan looked at each other, and each of them saw the meaning of excitement in each other's eyes.
Especially Fang Yuan, who loves technology, doesn't like management at all.
But there is a good wife in the family, who always pushes him to make progress. From time to time, he will say which best friend's husband has become a supervisor, and whose husband has been promoted again.
It's not that his wife dislikes him, this is just a trivial matter of couples chatting.
But the psychological pressure on Fangyuan himself was not so great.
Well now, with the path of promotion, not only will the income increase, but the wife will go out and chat with her girlfriends, and there is no need to say that her husband is a code farmer.
(End of this chapter)
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