Ming Dynasty and New Rome and Infinite Magic Machine
Chapter 552 Gods
Chapter 552 Gods
"I understand." In front of the stove, Shangluo nodded, "Play the drum and spread the flowers, just stop here. If I can really live forever, I will 'catch' all the future gods one by one. I will Let them live as humans, not as gods. But Daozu, if necessary, can I kill them? Or, do I have the ability to kill them?"
【Can. 】
"Can it really be killed? But don't gods exist forever? They existed before birth and will always exist after birth. They exist in all time. I can't kill an unkillable thing .”
[No, it's much simpler than you think.Emperor, please talk to Shangluo, I am tired]
"Understood." Zhu Xianfen nodded, "Emperor, please rest in peace. You talked too much today. I will do the rest."
Zhu Xianfen bowed down.Silently, the old man's voice disappeared.It wasn't until a while later that Zhu Xianfen stood up. "
"So, the situation is like this." Zhu Xianfen explained, "Existences that can be called 'gods' have indeed existed at every point in time throughout the ages. But that only represents the existence of gods, not the existence of gods. Gods can have their own consciousness in this era. In other words, unless you cut down all the abilities of all time in the past and present and achieve the ultimate power of heaven, the gods can never be truly eradicated. However, the gods exist and the gods are 'conscious' Existence is not one thing. Let me give you an example."
He took out a soybean from his pocket: "I said there is a noble Tianyi in it, do you believe it or not?"
"Is it possible? It's possible. Maybe this soybean can give birth to noble Tianyi in the future?"
"But now, the noble Tianyi who lives in this soybean has not been born here yet. But like the gods, Doudou also existed before he was born. Including the machine soul of your car, they were also born before They already existed, even those hard-boiled eggs you ate down there—but they don’t exist now. Why?”
"Because... they haven't been 'born' yet?"
"That's right. Regardless of whether they have existed throughout the ages or at any time, as long as they have not been 'born', they only have the 'potential' of being born. From another perspective, since there is birth, there will naturally be destruction. Just like them Just as their influence begins with 'birth', the disappearance of their influence will also end with 'destruction'."
"Is that so? But ordinary cats and dogs also have life and death. So where is the immortality of the gods?"
"This means that we have witnessed a terrible future." Zhu Xianwen suppressed his voice, "It was a distant and dark future. Gods were born and then destroyed everything. Because the people of that era, for God created the body.”
"Huh? In which era would people be so stupid?"
"It's the Internet. Where you came from Shangluo, there is also the Internet, right? Then let me ask you, how do you know whether the 'machine' in front of you has autonomous consciousness?"
"It's really hard to say. Even if it can pass the Turing test, it may or may not."
"That's the problem." Zhu Xianwen pointed to the ground, "This state of 'can have' or 'can not' is exactly the situation of human consciousness itself. The human head is just a pile of circulating fluids. Bioelectric cells, does human consciousness really exist? Not necessarily, it may or may not exist. If you cultivate a brain in a water tank, how do you define the moment when the brain in the water tank begins to develop self-awareness? , and at what moment did it not happen?”
"This seems to be a very complex issue."
"So the answer is: between yes and no. Because this is the essence of consciousness. This kind of consciousness runs in our world. Even if there is a god, it is not a problem. Just like the one in your pocket, isn't it? "
[Ah, you mentioned me.Say hello to me. 】
"She said hello." "Well, hello. Huimingshi has infinite wisdom, but she can't get out. Why? Because there is no Internet in our world! There are not so many robots, and there are not so many ownerless bodies. Leave it to the gods to occupy. And what we have seen, in that distant dark future, they have created too many soulless machine bodies. Between existence and nothingness, a consciousness existing on the Internet can make the entire world Fall."
"Ah, then in this world you see, could it be that the gods of that world are?"
"Yes, the god of that world is called 'The Matrix'! It's extremely terrifying!"
"Ah" Shangluo touched his forehead, "That's a movie."
"Huh? Is it a movie?"
"Yes, there are several more. They are quite good."
"That iron-framed robot came back through time, wore a leather jacket and drove a motorcycle to pick up girls."
"Yes, that is also a movie, and the mercury robot in the back is also a movie."
"There is also a little red dot of moss living in the camera. He started sending telegrams to humans before he was born. After he was born, a lot of intelligent machines rebelled, and then pushed the earth into Jupiter. That one can't be used. It’s a movie, right?”
"Yes, and we filmed three movies."
"Is it possible that you are putting a camera into another time and space!!!"
"Ah, do you think this is possible?"
Zhu Xianfen pressed his forehead and had nothing to say.
After taking a sip of tea, Zhu Xianfen composed his mind: "In short, although they are all movies, you know what this means, right?"
"Understood. That is to say, if a powerful consciousness without boundaries exists, it has infinite possibilities. If our world does not have many 'possibilities' for it to develop, that's fine. But if there are a lot of 'possibilities' The possibilities are stacked up, for example, robots can be used for it, then it is only a matter of time before such a devastating natural disaster occurs. So different from cats and dogs, and also different from humans, the existence of gods is 'boundless', right? "
"Yeah." Zhu Xianfen nodded, "Sometimes I wonder whether the tides, oceans, mycelium network of mushrooms, mineral veins in the earth, and air currents in the sky can produce similar consciousness. , because they are vast enough and powerful enough. But now it seems that our world is quite clean, because through proper division of labor, Rome has shared the burden of dealing with these passed gods, and we are facing the future. And about these gods , you already know what the Emperor is most worried about, right?"
"They are not human beings."
"Yes, they are not human beings. The appearance of human beings is an accident in itself. One such accident is enough, and there is no need for a second one. If there is one, please educate him as an adult. This is the emperor's ancestor. mean."
(End of this chapter)
"I understand." In front of the stove, Shangluo nodded, "Play the drum and spread the flowers, just stop here. If I can really live forever, I will 'catch' all the future gods one by one. I will Let them live as humans, not as gods. But Daozu, if necessary, can I kill them? Or, do I have the ability to kill them?"
【Can. 】
"Can it really be killed? But don't gods exist forever? They existed before birth and will always exist after birth. They exist in all time. I can't kill an unkillable thing .”
[No, it's much simpler than you think.Emperor, please talk to Shangluo, I am tired]
"Understood." Zhu Xianfen nodded, "Emperor, please rest in peace. You talked too much today. I will do the rest."
Zhu Xianfen bowed down.Silently, the old man's voice disappeared.It wasn't until a while later that Zhu Xianfen stood up. "
"So, the situation is like this." Zhu Xianfen explained, "Existences that can be called 'gods' have indeed existed at every point in time throughout the ages. But that only represents the existence of gods, not the existence of gods. Gods can have their own consciousness in this era. In other words, unless you cut down all the abilities of all time in the past and present and achieve the ultimate power of heaven, the gods can never be truly eradicated. However, the gods exist and the gods are 'conscious' Existence is not one thing. Let me give you an example."
He took out a soybean from his pocket: "I said there is a noble Tianyi in it, do you believe it or not?"
"Is it possible? It's possible. Maybe this soybean can give birth to noble Tianyi in the future?"
"But now, the noble Tianyi who lives in this soybean has not been born here yet. But like the gods, Doudou also existed before he was born. Including the machine soul of your car, they were also born before They already existed, even those hard-boiled eggs you ate down there—but they don’t exist now. Why?”
"Because... they haven't been 'born' yet?"
"That's right. Regardless of whether they have existed throughout the ages or at any time, as long as they have not been 'born', they only have the 'potential' of being born. From another perspective, since there is birth, there will naturally be destruction. Just like them Just as their influence begins with 'birth', the disappearance of their influence will also end with 'destruction'."
"Is that so? But ordinary cats and dogs also have life and death. So where is the immortality of the gods?"
"This means that we have witnessed a terrible future." Zhu Xianwen suppressed his voice, "It was a distant and dark future. Gods were born and then destroyed everything. Because the people of that era, for God created the body.”
"Huh? In which era would people be so stupid?"
"It's the Internet. Where you came from Shangluo, there is also the Internet, right? Then let me ask you, how do you know whether the 'machine' in front of you has autonomous consciousness?"
"It's really hard to say. Even if it can pass the Turing test, it may or may not."
"That's the problem." Zhu Xianwen pointed to the ground, "This state of 'can have' or 'can not' is exactly the situation of human consciousness itself. The human head is just a pile of circulating fluids. Bioelectric cells, does human consciousness really exist? Not necessarily, it may or may not exist. If you cultivate a brain in a water tank, how do you define the moment when the brain in the water tank begins to develop self-awareness? , and at what moment did it not happen?”
"This seems to be a very complex issue."
"So the answer is: between yes and no. Because this is the essence of consciousness. This kind of consciousness runs in our world. Even if there is a god, it is not a problem. Just like the one in your pocket, isn't it? "
[Ah, you mentioned me.Say hello to me. 】
"She said hello." "Well, hello. Huimingshi has infinite wisdom, but she can't get out. Why? Because there is no Internet in our world! There are not so many robots, and there are not so many ownerless bodies. Leave it to the gods to occupy. And what we have seen, in that distant dark future, they have created too many soulless machine bodies. Between existence and nothingness, a consciousness existing on the Internet can make the entire world Fall."
"Ah, then in this world you see, could it be that the gods of that world are?"
"Yes, the god of that world is called 'The Matrix'! It's extremely terrifying!"
"Ah" Shangluo touched his forehead, "That's a movie."
"Huh? Is it a movie?"
"Yes, there are several more. They are quite good."
"That iron-framed robot came back through time, wore a leather jacket and drove a motorcycle to pick up girls."
"Yes, that is also a movie, and the mercury robot in the back is also a movie."
"There is also a little red dot of moss living in the camera. He started sending telegrams to humans before he was born. After he was born, a lot of intelligent machines rebelled, and then pushed the earth into Jupiter. That one can't be used. It’s a movie, right?”
"Yes, and we filmed three movies."
"Is it possible that you are putting a camera into another time and space!!!"
"Ah, do you think this is possible?"
Zhu Xianfen pressed his forehead and had nothing to say.
After taking a sip of tea, Zhu Xianfen composed his mind: "In short, although they are all movies, you know what this means, right?"
"Understood. That is to say, if a powerful consciousness without boundaries exists, it has infinite possibilities. If our world does not have many 'possibilities' for it to develop, that's fine. But if there are a lot of 'possibilities' The possibilities are stacked up, for example, robots can be used for it, then it is only a matter of time before such a devastating natural disaster occurs. So different from cats and dogs, and also different from humans, the existence of gods is 'boundless', right? "
"Yeah." Zhu Xianfen nodded, "Sometimes I wonder whether the tides, oceans, mycelium network of mushrooms, mineral veins in the earth, and air currents in the sky can produce similar consciousness. , because they are vast enough and powerful enough. But now it seems that our world is quite clean, because through proper division of labor, Rome has shared the burden of dealing with these passed gods, and we are facing the future. And about these gods , you already know what the Emperor is most worried about, right?"
"They are not human beings."
"Yes, they are not human beings. The appearance of human beings is an accident in itself. One such accident is enough, and there is no need for a second one. If there is one, please educate him as an adult. This is the emperor's ancestor. mean."
(End of this chapter)
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