Huayu for engineering students

Chapter 195 Interview ([-])

"I want to ask a question that the audience friends are particularly concerned about, that is, can this material be practical? When will it be practical?" Shui Junyi asked some personal questions one by one. After cooperating with the questions, he jumped out of the project development process and started Ask what your real audience cares about.

"You have been holding back this question for a long time." Teacher Duan joked.

"It's not like that. For interviews, you have to do it step by step." Shui Junyi is not a newcomer. He has interviewed many important people in the bay at a young age.

"Well, let Wang Xu talk about this issue. Last time we talked about this content, he made us dizzy. Let him talk to you too." Teacher Duan gave way with a smile.

He knew that he had been in the limelight enough today, and he knew who the higher-ups wanted to praise.I have gained enough benefits from this single order, so I can't overdo it.

"That's right, let Wang Xu talk about it. He's not flattering him. He really has a long-term view on this thing." Zhang Hongyu really admires Wang Xu, and naturally spares no effort to praise him. Engineering students are actually very easy to deal with, professionally. In a fight, whoever is the most powerful will listen to him.

"Then let me talk about it, first whether it is practical or not. My answer is yes, definitely, but not now." Wang Xu nodded and gave a firm answer.

"What about the time?" Shui Junyi asked.

"I don't know, no one knows. I still need to devote energy to research. No one knows when the results will be produced." Wang Xu shook his head.

Shui Junyi was silent, and looked up at the two bragging people, is this how you talk so that people faint?Could it be that he fainted?Cut that part back.

"Professor Duan, what do you think?"

"My opinion is the same as Wang Xu's." The old Duan is also a human being. If Wang Xu doesn't say it, he must have his own considerations. If you can't say it, then it's best not to say it.

But in his heart, he raised the importance of Wang Xu's long passage recorded last time, and at the same time turned his head to give his doctoral student a warning look.

"Where's classmate Zhang?"

"I agree with Wang Xu's point of view." Zhang Hongyu is also an individual, and when he saw Professor Duan's warning eyes, he immediately understood.

Well, it seems that these three people don't intend to continue chatting on this aspect, and Shui Junyi is not a fool, there must be something that cannot be said, otherwise such a fuss would not have happened.

But it's also very simple, just go back and cut out the entire paragraph, and just ask other questions.

"Then let's change the question, Professor Duan, as the first batch of Chinese students to study in the United States after China's reform, what do you think of the current enthusiasm for going abroad?" Shui Junyi changed the direction of the question. It is also necessary to ask some hot questions and talk about opinions.

"Going abroad is a good thing. If you are poor, you will change, and if you change, you will succeed. It is very good to go out and have a look and learn. If I have never been out, I can't even use a scanning electron microscope. Even if this opportunity is in front of me, I have no ability to accept it." Stay." Professor Duan was obviously very emotional.

"So would you encourage your students to get out?"

"Xiao Zhang? He's already a doctoral student, so it doesn't make much sense to go out. Even if he is a postdoc, it's a waste of time. If they are undergraduates or postgraduates, I will encourage them to go out." Professor Duan replied firmly.

"Would you persuade them to come back?"

"Of course, you don't know how short I am here."

"Then aren't you afraid that the students will never return?"

"There's nothing to be afraid of. Some will never return, and some will come back. If you don't come back today, you will come back later.

Just like what the boss said, if you go out a hundred and come back, you will earn money. "Professor Duan is a loyal admirer of the boss, and Wang Xu and the others have known it for a long time.

"There is a heated discussion on this issue in the society. Many people think that Mizuki is the highest institution of learning. Every year, a large number of students go abroad, but very few return. What do you think about this issue?" Shui Junyi asked a very sharp question.

Wang Xu was a little dazed. This issue was discussed 30 years later in his previous life.As everyone knows, this issue has actually been discussed for a round in the 90s.It's just that the professional media are still participating in the discussion at this moment, and they are more or less moral.

Wang Xu remembered that later generations were full of people scolding Mizuki on the Internet. As an alumnus, Wang Xu was naturally very angry, so he asked in the class alumni group,
"Everyone is scolding Mizuki on the Internet, what do you think?"

"Actions speak louder than words", this is the only answer given in the group, it's very Mizuki and very engineering.

After that, Wang Xu didn't pay attention to any discussions related to Mizuki, nor went to the Internet to scold and fight, because he also felt very naive, and even went to the group to ask him, which seemed naive.

Hearing the familiar question at this time, Wang Xu suddenly felt a little funny.

"Then we have to go out. If we don't go out, we don't know anything. If we don't go out, what should we do?"

"But most of the people who went out didn't come back."

"It's helpful if you don't come back. Most of the research funds for international cooperation in China are almost brought back by those who didn't come back.

They did stay overseas for a better life, and even became foreigners. It is very selfish to use the current newspapers to say.

But they are also helping us objectively. I don’t know about others. Our scanning electron microscope cannot be bought without those people. Anyway, I personally have no position to scold them.

What's more, how do you know that they won't come back in the future?
By the way, you'd better deal with this part, I'm afraid it will affect their overseas life and affect their purchase of similar equipment in the future. "

Professor Duan's face showed some grief and indignation, but also some helplessness. He himself came back.But there are also many friends who stayed overseas, and even his own ex-wife did not come back.

He really has no position to refute. In the words of later generations, your wife is treasonous, so you can still be a good thing?

Wang Xu knew a little about Professor Duan. After all, this set of scanning electron microscopes was still quite new, and his successful introduction showed his personal ability.

In these years, being able to successfully introduce equipment is a kind of ability in itself, so Wang Xu also asked Senior Zhang some stories about Professor Duan.But Wang Xu has never heard of his wife's story, after all, Senior Zhang is only a student.

However, Professor Duan immediately described the process of introducing the scanning electron microscope. After all, he was facing a reporter from Huaxia TV. I believe he will handle the issue of whether it can be broadcast.

In Professor Duan's explanation, the introduction of this set of electron microscopes was actually blocked. It took a year for the approval alone. Both the department and Professor Duan submitted a lot of appeal materials but failed.

Later, it was his original supervisor who wrote a letter, saying that this thing was indeed for scientific research, and with this endorsement, the electron microscope was successfully introduced.

And this letter was obtained by his ex-wife who stayed overseas to help him find a mentor.

She also studied abroad at her own expense, and she was a student of the same supervisor as Professor Duan. When Professor Duan returned to China, he divorced her peacefully.

She stayed in the United States and is now working as a teaching assistant at her original university.

A very ordinary love story, if there is no introduction, it is as calm as countless such stories.

But the addition of such a device in the middle makes this story a little more dramatic.

Wang Xu didn't know what the woman was thinking, for love, for the country, or just for a little apology to her ex-husband.

Anyway, the result is like this, over there continue to hold a green card, in front of a teaching assistant, doing research, publishing papers, and living a comfortable life.

And Professor Duan's electron microscope passed through the customs smoothly, and it was indeed used for scientific research, so it didn't cause any trouble there.On the contrary, he made a major achievement, which made him very proud. Even his mentor called yesterday to congratulate him.

Well, that's right, in this day and age, the Ugly Congress will get the "Science" magazine earlier than in China, and it will be more than a day earlier.

In this grand historical era, this incident is really small, but it has a profound impact on the Department of Materials.Mizuki's other electron microscopes are very old and probably won't be used for a few years, but this one is the latest model and can be used for a long time.

Listening to Professor Duan's narration, Wang Xu didn't feel any disturbance in his heart. There are too many such things in this era.If there is no accident, there will be a movie "Big Sabbath" released this year, starring Ge You and Xu Fan, telling the story of divorce after going abroad.

In such an era, such a story happened, and the deduced story only recorded this era.

When the era develops, the story is just a story, and people in the new era will no longer understand the era in the story, so there are new stories.

As Du Mu of the Tang Dynasty said in "A Fang Gong Fu", "Later generations mourn and fail to learn from it, which also makes future generations mourn future generations again."

Wang Xu curled his lips as he thought about the similar words of later generations. He didn't have the desire to answer quickly. He definitely didn't need to answer this question.

After all, with his current status, he has a good root, and the education he received completely in China is beyond the ranks of rotten people. He is a powerful group.

No matter whether it was thrown 20 years ago or 30 years later, no one can spray him.

The atmosphere was a bit heavy, Shui Junyi found that his question just now was not good, and the answer was a bit overdue.The original expectation of giving up high salaries overseas to return, making major achievements, and slapping overseas professors in the face did not happen.

Although there is no help from overseas funds, this key equipment was purchased overseas, and the purchase was not smooth, and even helped by people staying overseas, which is not a boast.

And just as Professor Duan worried, it would not be beautiful if the broadcast would affect the purchase of equipment in the future.Points of view pinch pinch, can not really affect the development.

Therefore, Shui Junyi decided to change another current hot issue, education, after all, there is a genius here, who was educated in China, you can try it.

"Student Wang Xu, the comparison of education at home and abroad has been discussed in the newspaper recently, have you heard about it?" Shui Junyi still asked a forward-looking question first, so as not to ask three questions.

"Well, I understand." Wang Xu nodded. This issue was also a hotly discussed issue in the early 90s. This is the era when elementary school students are most popular, and various small essays are regarded as facts in many newspapers and periodicals. reported.

You know, there is no Baidu and Google at the moment, let alone countless people who have lived overseas for a long time to help you dispel rumors.Therefore, ordinary people believe what is written in the newspaper. Back in this era, Wang Xu has not seen such small essays.

And why the West is so advanced, the small days are so developed, and what is wrong with education is the most heatedly discussed era.What kind of quality education, happiness education, and interest education are all being introduced to the country at this time.

Many educators, without knowing the cause and effect, let alone the history of development, go abroad for investigation with a realistic attitude.

What I saw was advanced and peaceful, and the children grew up happily. When they came back, they would naturally brag about the advancement of Western educational concepts.

Then the country also followed suit. Anyway, the moon in the west is relatively round, which is the consensus in this era.

You see, it's such a mess.

For a while the west wind overwhelms the east wind, and for a while the east wind overwhelms the west wind.

Even at the same time, these two phenomena will appear on different issues at the same time, how can a word be messed up.

This is the 90s, and Wang Xu, who has returned to the old days, is having fun watching it anyway.

In fact, it was this kind of chaos that created the vitality of the 90s. All kinds of ideas collided violently, crazily seizing every brain, and everyone was deeply trapped in it, unable to extricate themselves.

If you don’t believe me, carefully observe the people around you who have experienced this era, especially those with a high degree of education, whether they have a kind of entanglement with overseas.

For a while, I love it to death, and for a while, I hate it so much that I gnash my teeth. It is even more bloody than the Korean drama Qiongchao.

Wang Xu's thinking is very simple. There is only one principle that engineering students should remember, "Practice is the only criterion for testing truth". It is simple and rude, but it is incontrovertible.

Should it be sent abroad? Yes, because later generations have proved that money and technology can only be brought back by sending abroad.

Should we engage in quality education? No, because later generations have proved that the college entrance examination is the only fair way to advance.

"Then do you think quality education should be promoted in China?" Shui Junyi calmly asked his question.

"I don't know much about quality education. Quality education is learning from the ugly country. Since it is learning, I think I still have a say.

No matter what to learn, should you choose the good ones and learn the right ones?I don't know if it's right, but at least make sure it's harmless. "Wang Xu's tone was as slow and lazy as ever, and he no longer had the excitement at the beginning. The excitement will be over after a while. People in the imperial capital, laziness is the essence.

"You're right, so how do you distinguish between the good and the bad, or the harmless?" Shui Junyi was obviously aroused by Wang Xu's opening remarks.

"It's easy to tell whether it's good or bad. Practice is the only criterion for testing the truth. Just look at the results of the implementation." Wang Xu said frankly.

"You mean, we should look at educated people?" Shui Junyi would not answer questions, he was a reporter, and his purpose was only to guide the conversation.

"Yes, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, these are the most sought-after upstarts in Ugly country science and technology, right, can they be used as successful models of Ugly country education?"

"Yes, they are all famous and have made extraordinary achievements. But the achievements of a few people cannot be used as evidence of the background of education." Shui Junyi was still very rigorous.

"That's right, what about their peers, are they the backbone of Ugly Country?" Wang Xu asked.

"Well, it can be said that they inherited the good family fortune left by their predecessors, and now they are supporting it." Shui Junyi answered after thinking for a while.

"Bill Gates, 37, Steve Jobs was the same age, and Larry Ellison was a little older, 48, which is consistent with our own country's three-and-forty-year-old people being the backbone of construction , right." Wang Xu was persuasive.

"Well, I seem to understand what you mean, but please explain to the audience." Shui Junyi understood Wang Xu's logic, but still asked Wang Xu to explain clearly.

"The so-called quality education, or happy education, is a by-product of the education reform carried out by the Reagan administration in the early 80s. It was implemented in public schools after the rise of private education. The purpose is actually to solve the problem of insufficient teachers. Even now Nor has it been popularized throughout the ugly country.

In any case, happiness education has been carried out in Ugly for less than ten years, and the people receiving this education are still underage. How can we say that Ugly’s success is the result of this kind of education? This is obviously contrary to logic.

The results of education need to be seen for at least 30 years, that is, these people are all 40 years old, and that is the right time to test.

Well, that time is about 2010 to 2020, you can guess what the ugly will be like at that time. "

Wang Xu thought for a while about the appearance of the ugly country in later generations, um, a slight smile appeared on the corner of his mouth, and then continued to speak:
"The prosperous ugly country we see now, those elites, people around the age of 40, their primary education is actually the result of education 30 years ago, we should see what kind of education they received 30 years ago Education, instead of examining the current education methods in ugly countries.

This is the basic principle of research. We cannot use the current prosperity to explain that the current education system is good. There is no causal relationship between the two.

Those three people, or their peers, are the backbone of the current Ugly Country. If Ugly Country is successful, then the education of these people is successful, and this is the cause and effect relationship.

But what kind of education did they receive?Sorry, they have a traditional education, very similar to ours.

The main subjects are reading, mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology, geography, history, and foreign languages.

Teachers can beat students, and every semester requires exams, rankings, homework after class, scoring, and even parents' signatures.

After all these are busy, I have the time to study art, dance and other elective courses.

There is no quality education, no burden reduction, no students giving marks to teachers, no students who like to come or not, no students who can learn whatever they like, nothing, they receive the same education method as us.

The only difference is that they receive this kind of education from a wider group of people than us, and the content is deeper than ours.

So, according to normal logic, we should learn this.Make our similar education wider and deeper, and learn from the education of Ugland 30 years ago, instead of rushing to learn the education reform that Ugland has not yet known the results of.

I am not an educator, but I also know that happy education is not a new concept recently proposed. It should have a long history, but it has not been implemented on a large scale in Ugly countries until recently. Shouldn’t we ask why? "

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(Professor Duan's story is adapted from a story about the introduction of equipment that the author heard in his early years)

(5000-word chapter, finish the interview, don’t subdivide it, I don’t want to make it fragmented.)
(Interview today, no update.)
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