Reborn Entrepreneurial Giant.
Chapter 688 Cooperating with BYD Again
Qu Li is not Musk. His "sustainable energy economy" plan has been criticized as "fake big empty" because of the lack of specific implementation plans. Many people think he is bragging, but he is indeed working in this direction.
Even if Qu Li and his plan are not approved, no one in China can oppose it. This is the most widely spread and influential "environmental protection idea" by Chinese entrepreneurs around the world.
Relevant departments, such as the central government, said in their propaganda that this was formed under the idea of a community with a shared future for mankind, a roadmap for Chinese entrepreneurs to change the world.
In the process of promoting the idea of "sustainable energy economy", Qu Li showed more traditional Chinese ideas, such as the opposition and unity of yin and yang. He wanted to let people know that Qu Li is not a Western entrepreneur, and his way of thinking about problems is similar to that of the West. capitalists are different.
Someone also asked Qu Li how Jumei and Glory participated in the "sustainable energy economy". Lead us to the sea of stars."
At that time, he regarded Glory and Future Geometry as a whole, but now it is no longer needed. Glory has Hive Energy and will directly participate in the construction of the Energy Internet.
What about the future, only electric cars?It's not a big problem to do so, no one can accuse him of anything, Qu Li can't finish everything.But beyond that, there are things that can be done, like home energy storage.
As I said before, electricity prices in Europe and the United States fluctuate with the market. When it is low, it may be lower than that in China, and when it is high, it is dozens of times higher. Such a large price fluctuation creates an arbitrage range. Smart equipment can not only save money, but also use electricity stably and uninterruptedly, and occasionally make money.
Of course, this depends on the price of energy storage equipment and the fluctuation range of electricity. Even if there are peak and valley electricity prices in China, there are still restrictions on electricity consumption, and the arbitrage space is still too small to save money on equipment.
Qu Li wanted to do something. After researching the European and American electricity markets, he discovered this opportunity, which is Tesla’s Powerwall. Future plans to get involved in household energy storage. It should be safer to use lithium iron phosphate batteries, right?
Energy storage is mainly used on the power generation side, the grid side, and the user side. Originally, Honeycomb Energy can also do it, but virtual power plants are mainly oriented to the power generation side and the grid side. one time.
Honeycomb Energy does not have lithium iron phosphate batteries at present. Purchasing BYD's batteries can give some support to this electric vehicle company. Although Lao Wang insists on making electric vehicles, he has no adventurous spirit. He publicly said that 65% of BYD's technological innovations are public patents, and 25% are public patents. For existing products (reverse engineering), 5% is independent innovation.Another 5% don't know who ate it.
Cooperating with BYD, Qu Li is not worried that Chuanfu will find this market. In the overseas market, ZTE and Huawei are the only domestic companies that can compete with Honor. Future Geometry can take advantage of Honor's channels and connections, and its advantages are very obvious.If you don't believe me, look at BYD ten years later, what is the proportion of exports?
Speaking of which, although Qu Li looks down on the current BYD, their pure electric car e6 basically has no sales in China, but they still contact overseas markets, such as Xiangjiang, London, the Netherlands and other countries, where they all exist as taxis.
It stands to reason that if the product is good, they will definitely be able to open up the international market from now on, but Brother Chuanfu is very unkind, saying that Tesla Geometry is a toy for the rich, and even the people in his company look down on e6.
Qu Li called the boatman directly and agreed to purchase lithium iron phosphate batteries, including what products he would use these batteries for. The battery management system is used in the power bank, and these core competencies cannot be seen or touched, unless an employee jumps to BYD with the source code.But it seems that only Xiaopeng Motors has done this kind of thing.
"Don't you buy our batteries for your electric vehicles?" The boatman wants more
BYD’s lithium iron phosphate batteries during this time period are basically no one wants them. By 2015, it seems that they have directly announced that they will no longer export them. It’s not that they don’t want to sell them. They really don’t have high-quality customers.
"I can't find a reason, ternary lithium is already the best choice at this stage." Qu Li admired BYD at first, but until he knew the future geometry, the proportion of honeycomb energy R&D personnel, the proportion of R&D investment, etc. After reading the data, he realized that BYD's success is due to their persistence for more than ten years, waiting for this wave, rather than the success of their technology accumulation for more than ten years.
Just look at the R&D investment. Last year, BYD Group spent 29 billion yuan on R&D, but including electronic foundries, power batteries, and vehicle R&D. By 2015, it was only 36.7 billion yuan, and the revenue in the same year was about 800 billion yuan.However, by 2015, Tesla's R&D investment will be 7.2 million US dollars, about 46.5 billion US dollars, and its revenue will be about 250 billion US dollars.
For a long time, BYD's revenue and profits have been much higher than those of Tesla. It was not until 2018 that Tesla was overtaken by Tesla in terms of revenue, and its profits still surpassed that of Tesla, which does not make money.
In contrast, Qu Li’s facts are too unreliable. In recent years, R&D investment has accounted for more than 10%, even surpassing SAIC, which has the highest revenue and profit in China (investment of 2013 billion in 53). I heard that there are leaders Directly criticizing Shangqi's leadership by name has no courage, which has led them to change the chairman and CEO now.
BYD's R&D investment is not high, but if there is no future geometry among domestic car companies, it will be ranked second. So Chuanfu said that China's auto industry has no second road other than new energy vehicles. Qu Li can understand, but this sentence It is obviously wrong. Geely has invested more than 200 billion to develop the CMA architecture, which is very good. If there is no electric vehicle, with the rise of national strength, Lynk & Co can become a mid-to-high-end brand, and Geely can become the number one independent brand.
Qu Li chatted with Brother Boatman, faintly feeling that Brother Boatman was lonely, he obviously did nothing wrong, how could he be overtaken by Qu Li Qu Tianming who didn't play cards according to the rules.When talking about electric vehicles and disseminator of Chinese culture in China, the first thing that comes to mind is Qu Li and Future Geometry, not BYD Wang Chuanfu.
That's right, the logo of Qiancheng Geometry uses a lot of Chinese, including the foreign sales version. Domestic consumers even know that Qiancheng Geometry has invested a lot of money in order to integrate Chinese characters with the interior style and maintain the aesthetic feeling. Large set of specifications.
Tens of millions are invested just to make the interior design style look beautiful, so some consumers will doubt their own aesthetics even if they think it is not good-looking. feel.
To design a product to look good and simple, but to make consumers feel beautiful without explaining, apart from Apple's extreme, there is only one trick of "blowing".It is very important to let consumers know the beauty of a car with a promising future, and it needs to invest more in brand marketing than design.
The male boatman in science and engineering is not willing to pay for branding, but Qu Li, a young artist, is willing.The difference between brands is not only in technology, but also in many unclear cultural heritages. Qu Li is a master, and the boatman has no doubts about this.
So, of course, the cooperation is going to be carried out. It’s just household energy storage equipment, and the market size is not big?Wait, this is not going to be the next big market after drones, is it?Do you want……
Even if Qu Li and his plan are not approved, no one in China can oppose it. This is the most widely spread and influential "environmental protection idea" by Chinese entrepreneurs around the world.
Relevant departments, such as the central government, said in their propaganda that this was formed under the idea of a community with a shared future for mankind, a roadmap for Chinese entrepreneurs to change the world.
In the process of promoting the idea of "sustainable energy economy", Qu Li showed more traditional Chinese ideas, such as the opposition and unity of yin and yang. He wanted to let people know that Qu Li is not a Western entrepreneur, and his way of thinking about problems is similar to that of the West. capitalists are different.
Someone also asked Qu Li how Jumei and Glory participated in the "sustainable energy economy". Lead us to the sea of stars."
At that time, he regarded Glory and Future Geometry as a whole, but now it is no longer needed. Glory has Hive Energy and will directly participate in the construction of the Energy Internet.
What about the future, only electric cars?It's not a big problem to do so, no one can accuse him of anything, Qu Li can't finish everything.But beyond that, there are things that can be done, like home energy storage.
As I said before, electricity prices in Europe and the United States fluctuate with the market. When it is low, it may be lower than that in China, and when it is high, it is dozens of times higher. Such a large price fluctuation creates an arbitrage range. Smart equipment can not only save money, but also use electricity stably and uninterruptedly, and occasionally make money.
Of course, this depends on the price of energy storage equipment and the fluctuation range of electricity. Even if there are peak and valley electricity prices in China, there are still restrictions on electricity consumption, and the arbitrage space is still too small to save money on equipment.
Qu Li wanted to do something. After researching the European and American electricity markets, he discovered this opportunity, which is Tesla’s Powerwall. Future plans to get involved in household energy storage. It should be safer to use lithium iron phosphate batteries, right?
Energy storage is mainly used on the power generation side, the grid side, and the user side. Originally, Honeycomb Energy can also do it, but virtual power plants are mainly oriented to the power generation side and the grid side. one time.
Honeycomb Energy does not have lithium iron phosphate batteries at present. Purchasing BYD's batteries can give some support to this electric vehicle company. Although Lao Wang insists on making electric vehicles, he has no adventurous spirit. He publicly said that 65% of BYD's technological innovations are public patents, and 25% are public patents. For existing products (reverse engineering), 5% is independent innovation.Another 5% don't know who ate it.
Cooperating with BYD, Qu Li is not worried that Chuanfu will find this market. In the overseas market, ZTE and Huawei are the only domestic companies that can compete with Honor. Future Geometry can take advantage of Honor's channels and connections, and its advantages are very obvious.If you don't believe me, look at BYD ten years later, what is the proportion of exports?
Speaking of which, although Qu Li looks down on the current BYD, their pure electric car e6 basically has no sales in China, but they still contact overseas markets, such as Xiangjiang, London, the Netherlands and other countries, where they all exist as taxis.
It stands to reason that if the product is good, they will definitely be able to open up the international market from now on, but Brother Chuanfu is very unkind, saying that Tesla Geometry is a toy for the rich, and even the people in his company look down on e6.
Qu Li called the boatman directly and agreed to purchase lithium iron phosphate batteries, including what products he would use these batteries for. The battery management system is used in the power bank, and these core competencies cannot be seen or touched, unless an employee jumps to BYD with the source code.But it seems that only Xiaopeng Motors has done this kind of thing.
"Don't you buy our batteries for your electric vehicles?" The boatman wants more
BYD’s lithium iron phosphate batteries during this time period are basically no one wants them. By 2015, it seems that they have directly announced that they will no longer export them. It’s not that they don’t want to sell them. They really don’t have high-quality customers.
"I can't find a reason, ternary lithium is already the best choice at this stage." Qu Li admired BYD at first, but until he knew the future geometry, the proportion of honeycomb energy R&D personnel, the proportion of R&D investment, etc. After reading the data, he realized that BYD's success is due to their persistence for more than ten years, waiting for this wave, rather than the success of their technology accumulation for more than ten years.
Just look at the R&D investment. Last year, BYD Group spent 29 billion yuan on R&D, but including electronic foundries, power batteries, and vehicle R&D. By 2015, it was only 36.7 billion yuan, and the revenue in the same year was about 800 billion yuan.However, by 2015, Tesla's R&D investment will be 7.2 million US dollars, about 46.5 billion US dollars, and its revenue will be about 250 billion US dollars.
For a long time, BYD's revenue and profits have been much higher than those of Tesla. It was not until 2018 that Tesla was overtaken by Tesla in terms of revenue, and its profits still surpassed that of Tesla, which does not make money.
In contrast, Qu Li’s facts are too unreliable. In recent years, R&D investment has accounted for more than 10%, even surpassing SAIC, which has the highest revenue and profit in China (investment of 2013 billion in 53). I heard that there are leaders Directly criticizing Shangqi's leadership by name has no courage, which has led them to change the chairman and CEO now.
BYD's R&D investment is not high, but if there is no future geometry among domestic car companies, it will be ranked second. So Chuanfu said that China's auto industry has no second road other than new energy vehicles. Qu Li can understand, but this sentence It is obviously wrong. Geely has invested more than 200 billion to develop the CMA architecture, which is very good. If there is no electric vehicle, with the rise of national strength, Lynk & Co can become a mid-to-high-end brand, and Geely can become the number one independent brand.
Qu Li chatted with Brother Boatman, faintly feeling that Brother Boatman was lonely, he obviously did nothing wrong, how could he be overtaken by Qu Li Qu Tianming who didn't play cards according to the rules.When talking about electric vehicles and disseminator of Chinese culture in China, the first thing that comes to mind is Qu Li and Future Geometry, not BYD Wang Chuanfu.
That's right, the logo of Qiancheng Geometry uses a lot of Chinese, including the foreign sales version. Domestic consumers even know that Qiancheng Geometry has invested a lot of money in order to integrate Chinese characters with the interior style and maintain the aesthetic feeling. Large set of specifications.
Tens of millions are invested just to make the interior design style look beautiful, so some consumers will doubt their own aesthetics even if they think it is not good-looking. feel.
To design a product to look good and simple, but to make consumers feel beautiful without explaining, apart from Apple's extreme, there is only one trick of "blowing".It is very important to let consumers know the beauty of a car with a promising future, and it needs to invest more in brand marketing than design.
The male boatman in science and engineering is not willing to pay for branding, but Qu Li, a young artist, is willing.The difference between brands is not only in technology, but also in many unclear cultural heritages. Qu Li is a master, and the boatman has no doubts about this.
So, of course, the cooperation is going to be carried out. It’s just household energy storage equipment, and the market size is not big?Wait, this is not going to be the next big market after drones, is it?Do you want……
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