Live appraising treasures, I became a national treasure expert?

Chapter 191 Dare to eat shit

On the top of the live broadcast room, a huge light sign was hung with special effects: No. 1 in the fight against counterfeiting of antiques.

Just these seven words can make those who know a little bit blind for a few seconds.

Zheng Wanjiu sat upright under the light sign, wearing a blue suit, his hair was slicked and sleek, and he had a plump carrot statue in front of his face.

It's probably due to the shooting angle. No matter how you look at the picture, it looks like two porcelain urns, one large and one small.

Netizens immediately became amused: "Is this fat man in a green suit the one who followed Li Anzhi during the live broadcast that day?"

"Nonsense, this face is so recognizable, how can there be a second place? Look at that watch, Vacheron Constantin's tourbillon, how can ordinary people afford it?"

"There is also a note on the porcelain bottle: An Benzhai... When Jiang Lingyu was live broadcast that day, was this the one who danced the most happily and scolded Li Anzhi the most?"

"Yes, otherwise why would Li Anzhi take a break from him?"

Little expert: "Haha... Now who dares to say that Li Anzhi is a coward, who dares to say that he is a melon, stand up for me!"

Zuan Alley: "Don't talk nonsense... you didn't read the introduction? It's just Zheng Manjiu who is fighting counterfeiting, and it has nothing to do with anyone else!"

Nutrition Express: "Stop talking nonsense. It's not like Lao Zheng has never appeared in Li Anzhi's live broadcast room. Is he capable of this?"

Pin Yixuan: "That's right, you have to figure out why there are professional counterfeiters in other industries, but the fundamental reason why no one dares to crack down on counterfeiting in the antique industry.

It is not a so-called customary rule at all, but it is difficult to identify, and there are no relevant identification standards and legal provisions. "

Just like consumer goods and food, with a little knowledge, ordinary people can identify whether these things are good or bad, and whether they meet the standards.Even if instruments are needed for a certain aspect, the quality and technical department of any small county can detect it.

Then remove the "Food Law" and a lot of dazzling but extremely detailed "Quality Standards" and "Laws and Regulations". Whether you can win the lawsuit and how much money you can lose if you win the lawsuit are all clear to even the lawyer. No need to ask.

But if you switch to antiques: let alone detection, there are very few scientific and technological means that can be used for this thing. It all depends on the appraiser's eyesight, experience, and knowledge reserves... In short, it is difficult!

And it is very easy to make mistakes. I dare say that there is no one involved in this field who has not made mistakes, including professors and scholars from the top and most authoritative research institutions in the country. "

"The most important thing is that the effort is not proportional to the benefit: in the fight against counterfeit consumer goods and food, you can get [-]% off if it is fake, or [-]% if it's fake, but for antiques, you have to pay a lot of money to get back the money you paid for the fakes if you file a lawsuit. .

You want to ask why?It's very simple: the country has not promulgated any quality system and appraisal standards related to antiques, and there is no legal basis related to the value of antiques... To put it more simply: there is no legal basis for the value of antiques. Today, things are only worth a dime. Maybe it will be worth 100 million tomorrow..."

“It’s not that exaggerated, but the judicial department rarely uses the economic value of antiques as the basis for judging cases. At most, they only draw on or consider part of it, including tomb robbing cases and antique smuggling cases.

Therefore, those who buy counterfeit goods and sue rarely win the case. The most serious thing is a refund and return... If you still don't understand, you can search for the "Experts defrauding Qianlong's original "Songyang Pines and Cypresses" case that once shocked the whole country. The plaintiff lost the case in the first instance, second instance, and final instance..."

"Haha... You talk a lot, you have the final say... But as long as Zheng Wanjiu doesn't admit it and Li Anzhi doesn't show his face, who dares to say that this live broadcast room is related to Li Anzhi?"

"That's why it's too insidious: revenge has been avenged, and it has no effect at all!"

"There is something even more insidious: I saw Fatty Zheng marking all the antiques, and I also saw him throwing something in the box before the clerk sealed it, right? That was a miniature camera... all of these are evidence!"

"What do you mean, tell me in detail!"

“Antique lawsuits are indeed very difficult to litigate. Just like the “Songyang Pines and Cypresses” case mentioned before, the reason why the court ruled against the plaintiff was that there was no identification standard and no legal support, and the value could not be determined, but also because of the chain of evidence. imperfect:
Because the expert said that the fake painting he bought from the plaintiff for 17 yuan had already been sold to the Americans, and God knows where it is now... and the plaintiff could not prove that he later bought the original painting for 9000 million yuan, and the expert defrauded them from it before. The one left is the same painting...

The reason why most antique lawsuits are lost is for the same reason: the plaintiff has no way to prove that the thing he bought from the defendant is the one now in court... In short, the defendant says you switched the contract. , but you can’t provide any evidence! "

"Damn, can it still be like this?"

"Do you think Li...well, why did the assistant film the entire scene or just one shot? Why did Fatty Zheng make the mark: I won't say whether the lawsuit can be won or not. At least I can prove that this thing was bought from your store. One piece!”

"You mean that at this point, you may not even be able to win the lawsuit?"

"You should win, but it consumes a lot of energy and time... If you don't understand, you can learn from the 'Full Jade Clothes Counterfeiting Case' which is more sensational and can subvert three views: the lawsuit lasted for seven years. !”

"It is to use 2 yuan to make a jade dress, and then ask experts to appraise the value of 24 billion, and then mortgage it to the bank, and then borrow 12 billion?"

"Correct!"

"It can't be that the defendant said that the bank really exchanged his money?"

"Absolutely correct... Fortunately, the bank's vault was fully monitored. The defendant's lawyer had no choice but to argue that although the jade garment is only worth 24 now, it was indeed worth [-] billion at the time. This was based on the legal loophole that 'the value of antiques cannot be determined' ...Although the bank won the lawsuit in the end, the process was very tortuous and quite bizarre...If you don’t believe it, look at the experts who participated in the appraisal at that time!”

"Holy crap... the director of the Beijing University Cultural Relics Appraisal Center?"

"Good guy, and the deputy dean of the Forbidden City?"

"What is that? Look at this: Deputy Director of the National Cultural Relics Appraisal Committee and President of the National Collection Association?"

"If I go... I'm equal to He Anbang, Lu Benzhi, and Wu Xiang. Are we still far behind them?"

"Wu Xiang is not far behind the one from Beijing University, which is just two steps forward. But with the status and level of the remaining two, He Anbang and Lu Benzhi have no hope in this life."

"What happened to these guys in the end?"

"Of course it's nothing serious...I just say that the level is not high enough. Although the appraisal fee is ridiculously high and beyond the awareness of ordinary people, there is no way to prove that they jointly issued it knowing that the jade garment was a fake. The appraisal certificate is worth 24 billion, so no one can do anything to them!"

"I've learned a lot...I finally know why there are so many fakes in the antique market, but each one has an appraisal certificate issued by an expert, and each one has a bigger origin than the last?"

"You think... So, there are fewer experts like Li Anzhi who appreciate the quality of water, have no record of it, and never let others appraise it, than giant pandas!"

"Does it need to be used? If he just picks one up from a street stall, it will be enough for others to work hard for several lifetimes."

"This is..."

"Haha, listen... Zheng Manjiu's assistant is starting to explain!"

"I'll go...doesn't this sound sound familiar?"

"If it weren't for Li Anzhi, I would have swallowed the phone!"

"Haha, you think this is Li Anzhi? Come on, get the evidence..."

Gradually, there were more and more netizens in the live broadcast room. In a short time, the number of people online exceeded [-].And it keeps @, keeps @...

"I came here because of the reputation. I heard that Li Anzhi is on the air... Let me go. Is it really Li Anzhi?"

"No, you heard it wrong, it's just that the sound is a bit similar!"

"Brother, come here without opening your mouth. Look at the introduction of the live broadcast room: This is Zheng Wanjiu, Mr. Zheng's assistant. His surname is An, so we call him Xiao An... but his surname is definitely not Li!" "So, this live broadcast is completely personal to Mr. Zheng. Behavior has nothing to do with others!"

"Good guys, are you telling lies with your eyes open...no, with your ears open?"

"Why don't you call me Xiaoan?"

"Do you have the ability to let him show his face?"

"Mr. Zheng said, he doesn't look good!"

"What the hell... well, there are many of you, so you have the final say."

Netizens were noisy, Zheng Wanjiu was trembling with joy, but Li Ding'an spoke loudly:

"The above is the whole process of purchasing this carrot statue. The seller frankly stated that it is true to its authenticity and is accompanied by an appraisal certificate issued by Mr. Luo Yingzong, a member of the "Liao Province Ancient Porcelain Evaluation Committee": including the sole, glaze, body quality, and style identification. , patina, etc., all have in-depth analysis...

The final identification date was the Kangxi period of the Qing Dynasty, and the place of production was JDZ Ruoshen kiln... But after our identification, this item is a fake, and the age is no more than three years... The basis is also very simple:
First, the porcelain clay has not been aged, and is directly used as new clay... See if the texture of the sole of the foot is very coarse, and there are many impurities... This can be used to identify it;
Second, this piece was shaped by a tire pressing machine, and there are many traces of machine tire shaping left inside and outside the body;"

Third, when fired in an electric furnace, the vitrification of the glaze is too high and the brightness is too strong;

Fourth, the old-fashioning technique is too single, and the method of "hard object knocking" is used to peel off the glaze. The characteristics are also obvious, and it can be recognized at a glance with a high-power magnifying glass... Then use potassium permanganate to deglaze. This method is more Easy to identify...look, the color of my fingers...

The fifth and easiest thing to spot is that the style is wrong: Anyone who knows a little bit about porcelain knows that in the Qing Dynasty, if the deep kiln only fired blue and white..."

Li Ding'an's speech was not fast, and he spoke in great detail. Wherever he spoke, the magnifying glass in his hand would be placed on the corresponding part.

When it came to removing the glaze with potassium permanganate, he dipped his hand in water and rubbed it twice on the glaze, and then put his hand in front of the camera.

The color is not very dark, but the purple-red color can still be seen, so even a layman or a novice can see it at a glance and hear it clearly.

For an expert: There is no need to go into such detail, it looks fake at first glance...

After almost half an hour, Li Ding'an finished speaking and switched to the second piece, which was the pastel platter.This time it was faster: the buying and selling process was fast-forwarded twice as fast, and the later part of the shipping and overnight storage was omitted.

"Similarly, this one is authentic to the store and has an appraisal certificate. It is still an expert from the Liao Provincial Ancient Porcelain Evaluation Committee...Similarly, we have identified it as a fake: it is slightly younger than the previous one, about a year ago. Half, the place of production is still JDZ, and it is still industrial mass production.

However, the old-fashioned method is slightly more advanced: scrub the soles with washing powder and polish them with sandpaper, so that the tire texture resembles a glutinous rice tire; then iron nails are placed on the glaze surface and salted rust is sprinkled, and grave soil is mixed with old lime. Doubi shot with 520 glue...

Like this one, it is more difficult to identify the authenticity. Senior collectors can also identify it with their eyesight and feel, but they must be careful.If you are an ordinary enthusiast or have not had much contact with antiques, [-]% of them will be eye-catching.

If you want to identify it afterwards, you need to use instruments and chemical means.But it can be done in a junior high school laboratory, because the ingredients of washing powder and 502 are not complicated..."

"It can be done in school, doesn't it seem difficult?"

"It's not difficult. You should listen to the first half of it clearly: Senior collectors may get caught if they are not careful, let alone ordinary people... Li Anzhi... Oh no, the assistant said it is not difficult, he means that he can find it casually. A laboratory with analytical capabilities..."

"I understand. I guess Zheng Wanjiu didn't see it at the time..."

"Almost, he can be classified as a 'senior collector' at most... Well, look at Zheng Manjiu's face?"

"That's right, he was smiling all over his face just now. When he saw that we said he had a punch in his eye, he stopped laughing immediately."

"Haha... Fatty Zheng is definitely mistaken."

For a moment, the fans burst into laughter...

"Looking at this painting again, the two-foot sketch of the modern painter Lu Yanshao has smooth lines, a combination of hardness and softness, and obvious personal characteristics. It shows that the author has a deep foundation in imitation. He is very familiar with Lu Yanshao's style and should study it in depth. Yes, so maybe it was painted by his students...

The reason why we determined that it was a forgery was because the paper was wrong: it was Chenguang's special rice paper for calligraphy and painting. It was produced after 2000, but Lu Yanshao died in 1993..."

"Holy crap, can you see this?"

"What do you think? Reading paper is just the basic skill of calligraphy and painting appraisers, and their general steps are to look at the paper first, then the scroll, and then the ink and paint. If all of these are correct, they will look at the content..."

“It doesn’t feel difficult either!”

"Well... Is it difficult for you to ask Mr. Zheng?"

Seeing this comment, Zheng Wanjiu's face twitched involuntarily, and then the live broadcast room burst into laughter again.

so interesting...

"The snuff bottle is also a fake. The material is industrial glass, not colored glaze... The birdcage is also wrong. It is not huanghuali, but diesel wood. And the gem on the top of the cage is not natural agate, but artificial... and this picture Leng Mei's "Pictures of Ladies" uses chemical pigments that are only available in modern times, so it is also a fake... Look at this one..."

After a pause, Li Ding'an picked up the chicken-yellow flower pot base and looked at Zheng Wanjiu again.

Lao Zheng immediately understood: If we talk about this, we have to talk about the specific old-fashioned techniques. Then should the clip of him taking a lick be broadcast?

After a moment of hesitation, Zheng Wanjiu gritted his teeth again: Play, why not play?
Let fans also see how much sacrifice I have made, Lao Zheng, in order to fight against counterfeiting?

Zheng Wanjiu was the one operating the video playback. He didn't hesitate and clicked play directly.

This time it was at normal speed, and the conversation between Zheng Manjiu and the manager could be heard clearly. The picture was very clear, and netizens could see it clearly: After reading and touching, Zheng Manjiu even took a lick...

"I'll go, Fatty Zheng, aren't you afraid that this is for ashes?"

"What does it matter? Just think of it as chewing bones!"

"God chews bones!"

"It's not surprising, because most of the high imitations and distressing require the use of acids and alkalis, so many experts will taste it when appraising porcelain!"

"What about this one?"

Just as someone asked, the video stopped and Li Ding'an began to explain: "The distressing techniques for this piece are more advanced. For example, the dipping process does not use chemicals, but uses traditional soaking... This method is both It can make the porcelain body of the crafts tend to be 'stale' or 'glutinous rice', and it can also make the glaze surface resemble a 'natural old' appearance...The disadvantage is that it takes a long time..."

“What is retting?”

"I'm so surprised...it means this thing is soaked in excrement water!"

"And the time will never be short, at least for more than a year, otherwise the glaze and body color will not be so correct!"

"Holy shit, Fatty Zheng even dares to eat shit?"

(End of this chapter)