I have lived forever since the end of Qin Dynasty

Chapter 396: War of words with ministers

With the double act of Chen Luo and Liu Che, the inspection and examination system was like a map, slowly unfolding in front of the courtiers.

By the time they realized it, the "dagger" had been revealed.

There are hundreds of ministers in the palace. They have different factions, family backgrounds and origins, and their attitudes towards the imperial examination system are naturally very different.

When the conversation between the two ended, the controversy in the palace began.

"Your Majesty, as the saying goes, 'no merit will not be rewarded.' Those talented people in the countryside have not made any substantial contributions to the Han Dynasty. I don't know whether they are really talented. They are appointed as officials based on hasty recommendations." , is this too far-fetched? I’m afraid it’s hard for them to convince their subordinates when they become officials.”

Chen Luo squinted his eyes and recognized this person.

The other party is Lu Chan’s grandson.

In this world line, the Zhulu Rebellion did not occur. After the death of Emperor Hui, the Lu family could no longer compete with the Heroes Faction. During the reign of Emperor Wen, they were even squeezed out of the center of power. However, the family's lives were saved.

However, the Lu family has three positions that can be inherited. Although they cannot get the highest power, they are enough to ensure wealth.

Even though most of the Lu family's descendants have become useless in recent years, there are still many officials worth 1,200 dan.

This is the benefit brought to the Lu family under the inheritance system.

If it were replaced by the imperial examination system, the Lu family would have competitors for the official position that they originally held firmly in their hands.

What's more, the incompetent descendants of the Lu family are dwarfed by the officials who were promoted. I'm afraid others will have grounds for impeachment.

Those official positions that could have been safely obtained have become in danger.

The inspection system violated the core interests of the other party, so it was not surprising that he stood up impatiently and wanted to defend himself.

With a humble smile on his face, Chen Luo stood up.

He came well prepared and considered almost every situation, and the other party's statement was also part of his calculations.

He said in a deep voice: "Your Majesty, I don't agree with Lu Taichang's point of view.

First, he said that the talented people in the countryside did not contribute to the Han Dynasty. So what did Lu Taichang define as contribution?

Paying taxes on time and responding to the official call are considered contributions, or does Lu Taichang only think that serving as an official is a contribution.

Secondly, I think there is no need to discuss whether the virtuous people in the countryside have talent.

The hero of the founding of the Han Dynasty, Marquis Wenwen of Feng was only an official, Marquis Wenzhen of Yangxia was a garrison soldier, and your ancestors were not descendants of nobles. Isn't this the best proof that there are talented people in the countryside?

Thirdly, as for whether the talents who have been promoted are qualified, we do not directly send them to the posts, but conduct strict assessments.

Those who pass the assessment can go to work, and those who fail the assessment will stay and study. If they fail to pass the assessment after studying for many years, they cannot afford the reputation of a talented person, and will naturally be sent back to their place of origin, without delaying the people. .

Lu Taichang, do you think what I said makes sense? "

Chen Luo did not let go of every argument in the other party's words and completely denied it.

But he didn't chase her down and say anything uglier.

After all, his current power in the court is not very deep. If he offends too many people, there will be a lot of unnecessary help in the process of implementing the inspection system.

After hearing this, Taichang Lu blushed and wanted to refute, but couldn't find a suitable reason.

In any other place, I would have shouted angrily, but now the order of the morning court has been much improved compared to the early Han Dynasty, and all kinds of etiquette and rules are in place.

So he could only sit down quietly to avoid having an attack.

However, Lu Taichang gave up his objection, which did not mean that others fully accepted the inspection system.

There wasn't a moment of silence before someone stood up again.

"Chen Yilang, I think the talented people in the imperial examinations may be good at taking exams and have fame in vain, but they are not good at serving as officials. What should we do if such a situation occurs?"

The person who asked the question was not familiar to Chen Luo.

However, he still smiled and answered: "The talented people promoted by the police come from the countryside, so they can better understand the difficulties of the people, and can formulate corresponding policies based on the actual situation.

As for those people who can only cope with exams and don't know how to adapt, I think they should belong to a very small number. Moreover, such people can at least complete the tasks assigned by the court honestly. In fact, they have surpassed some local officials at the moment. "

After listening to this, the other party sat down thoughtfully.

Obviously, his and Lu Taichang's ideas were completely different.

Lu Taichang opposed the imperial examination because he fundamentally disliked this type of system. He felt that it was an obstacle to the development of the family for the Lu family. In any case, he would stand against it and would not support the implementation of the imperial examination system.

But this is not the case for him. If the inspection system is beneficial, then of course he will not oppose the implementation of the inspection system. If the inspection system is not beneficial to the Han Dynasty, then he will become a firm opposition.

In the conversation between Chen Luo and Liu Che just now, they only showed the concept of the Chaoju system, but did not go into depth about the content of the Chaoju system.

Therefore, he decided to start from the perspective of questioning, questioning Chen Luo, questioning the possible loopholes in the inspection system, thinking that if Chen Luo's answer was hesitant, he would become a staunch opposition. After all, even the framers of the system could not Explain its shortcomings, so how can anyone else believe it is a reasonable system?

So as soon as he stood up, he started from the perspective of detecting talents and raised questions.

Chen Luo's answer convinced him and caused him to think a lot.

Which one is of higher quality, compared with the talents who have been promoted through the inspection and the current officials who rely on their family background and military merit to become officials?

The quality of the former has not yet been verified, but the performance of the latter is obvious to all.

The abilities of the first and second generations of the hero sect are basically above the standard. Starting from the third generation, they are uneven and cannot be praised.

As for those who take the military route to become officials, those people have their own way of fighting and killing, but politics advocates balance, and the emphasis is not to be too impulsive. The recognized three generations of leaders of the Han military, Han Xin, Zhou Bo and Zhou Yafu, Some political performances actually have obvious flaws.

However, Han Xin retreated bravely and returned to Huaiyin early without arousing suspicion.

As for the father and son Zhou Bo and Zhou Yafu, they both almost got killed because of some carelessness.

Therefore, he started to stand up to question Chaju, but Chen Luo's words made him inclined to support Chaju.

Even though it is a new system, it may bring new changes to Dahan.

"Chen Yilang, what should we do if the inspection system brings about the danger of cliques and selfish interests?" Another person stood up and asked in a deep voice.

Chen Luo narrowed his eyes.

This is actually a good question.

However, he did not panic, and asked in a slow voice, "If nothing is found, will the court be able to form factions for personal gain?"

As for the disadvantages of forming a party, the talents selected by the inspection and examination come from various counties and counties, and there are no more than three or five people each year.

These people are not related by blood, nor have any interests entangled with each other. They will not return to their place of origin as officials in the future, and they may not even be able to meet each other for several years after leaving Chang'an.

If we form a party, I'm afraid it won't be that easy, right?

Rather than worrying that the inspection system will lead to clique formation and selfish interests, perhaps there are other ways to become an official, which we need to worry about more. "

I am just answering from one aspect. The actual situation is not that simple. However, there was no loophole in his words, and time was short. Everyone in the court could not think of how to attack Chen Luo's remarks from other angles.

But then again, the power of forming a party under the inspection system is within the controllable range.

You must know that military elites form cliques. Those people fight together on the battlefield. They have a strong friendship. In addition, they have military power. If they form a clique, it may even lead to the overthrow of the regime.

If relatives form a party, they will also gather a large group of people for their own interests. Although the Lu family does not have chaos in this world line, there were many similar examples during the Spring and Autumn Period and the Warring States Period. Even the current domineering Dou family can be used as evidence.

As for the prince forming a clique, it is actually more taboo. You must know that the prince has the right to inherit the throne. If he has too much power in the court, I am afraid the emperor will start to consider whether his son can't wait.

There were many ministers who stood up and raised objections, but their views were dismissed one by one by Chen Luo.

Gradually, the voices of opposition in the palace began to subside.

It wasn't that they were convinced, but that they found they couldn't defeat Chen Luo.

No matter what reasons he gave, Chen Luo could always refute from a higher perspective and smash his reasons into pieces.

From the perspective of interests, these people must resist the emergence of the inspection system.

But if they stay out of the matter and judge from a rational perspective, they have even been convinced by Chen Luo.

The effect of Chen Luo's battle with the ministers is obvious.

As the voice of opposition subsided, relatively more ministers supported Chaju.

The inspection system has offended the interests of some people, but it will also bring sufficient benefits to other people.

It will have a great impact on the nobles, but the nobles have controlled the politics of the Han Dynasty for too long. No class will never decay. But in the past, people with lofty ideals had to choose to rely on the corrupt noble class, otherwise There was no chance of getting ahead at all.

After all, most ministers who have reached high positions through talent and learning actually have aversion and disgust towards privileges in their hearts.

When Zhao Wan began to express his support for Chen Luo, the situation in the court completely turned to one side, and the implementation of the inspection system became an unstoppable trend.

And he was also the first Sangong to come forward to express his position.

You must know that Prime Minister Wei Wan belongs to the Honorable Sect and is vaguely related to the Foreign Relations Sect, while Taiwei belongs to the representative of the Military Merit Sect.

Based on their positions alone, it is impossible for these two people to support the implementation of the inspection and examination system.

However, Zhao Wan openly expressed his stance for two reasons.

First, he was originally a civilian, but was single-handedly promoted by Liu Che. Regardless of his position or status, he definitely supported the implementation of the inspection system.

The second reason is selfishness. He is keenly aware that the inspection system will inevitably be recorded in the history books. Although he cannot have the reputation of being the first to advocate it like Chen Luo, he is the first to stand up and express his support. It is also important. It may be recorded in the history books.

Thinking of this, he sat down and looked towards the historian in the corner of the hall.

The other party should have written down all his words just now, right?

Taishi Ling Sima Tan, who was sitting silently in the corner, was busy writing and did not notice Zhao Wan's fiery gaze at all.

He recorded the whole story of the court meeting, focusing mainly on Chen Luo's proposal and Liu Che's reaction.

This is the most worthwhile thing to write down.

As for the reactions of other ministers in the palace, Sima Tan seemed not that important.

At the same time, the controversy in the palace has completely shifted to the side supporting Chaju.

No matter who comes forward and gives reasons to oppose the inspection, Chen Luo will be stunned speechless. Ministers who are qualified to stand in the court have very keen observation skills. They support the implementation of the inspection and can also say corresponding benefits.

In this way, Chen Luo's support for Chaju is not bragging, but the support of others.

Seeing the change in the direction of the wind in the court hall, Liu Che couldn't help but raise the corners of his mouth slightly.

The overall situation is decided!

The implementation of the imperial examination system is unstoppable, and I am afraid that in the near future, it will become a formal national policy and be implemented in the Han Dynasty.

Observing Chen Luo's performance just now, Liu Che was very satisfied.

The implementation of the Chaju system, in the final analysis, was his will to propose and implement the Chaju system in the court.

If Chen Luo failed to convince the ministers and the palace was full of objections, then Liu Che could only rely on his status as emperor and use his power to enforce the inspection.

This is not a suitable solution.

Forcibly promoting the inspection and promotion system is too rigid and can easily make people feel resentful.

Not a good thing in the long run.

After all, the inspection and promotion system is unlikely to be effective in a short period of time. Even if the first batch of talents are directly appointed to the local government, their achievements will not be effective until three to five years.

During this process, if any scandal breaks out in the inspection system or causes any trouble, someone must be responsible for it.

At that time, I, who forcibly promoted the implementation of the inspection system, will inevitably become the primary responsible person.

This will have a huge impact on the emperor's prestige.

But now there is no need for that.

Chen Luo persuaded the ministers and tied about one-third of the court officials aboard the big ship of Chajuzhi. If the ship sank in the future, the risk must be borne by all, not just on the head of one person. .

Looking at Chen Luo kindly, Liu Che tapped the document with his right index finger.

He decided to give out a sufficient reward later, a reward that would be the envy of all the officials.

Of course, the reward for Chen Luo is not only for commendation, but also for his next plan, a plan that no one has told.

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The imperial examination system is a bottom-up system implemented in the Han Dynasty to select talents as officials.

Through the implementation of the imperial examination system, the Han Dynasty selected a large number of talents with both ability and political integrity, enriched and strengthened the central and local feudal ruling institutions, and also played a certain role in promoting the development of social politics, economy, and culture at that time.

It had a good pioneering effect on the official selection system and political management system, and laid a good foundation for Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty to subsequently conquer the Xiongnu. ——"Introduction to the Examination and Examination System in the Han Dynasty"

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