They are all in the army, who is in love?
Chapter 167: He scolded Su Zitao and shocked the whole audience
Chapter 167: He scolded Su Zitao and shocked the whole audience
After Chen Ming finished talking about his views, he calmly sat back in his chair.
He spit it out quickly.
But in the discussion room, everyone looked at each other, almost shaken by their outlook on life.
Is this a fucking private?Whose private knows so much?
Who would have thought just now that Chen Ming had just arrived and had just sat here and listened for a few minutes, and he could really talk a lot?
Wei Wenbo's lips twitched when he heard this, and he sat there in silence for a long time.
He also knows a little about the concept of information warfare, and he probably knows a little about the points mentioned by Chen Ming.
It's just that I can't explain it in detail like Chen Ming, I only know a little bit.
It is this similar point of view that is rarely used in project research.
Firstly, the scope is too broad, and many things are just conjectures, unable to be verified. Secondly, the scope is too large, and it is difficult to control. The direction of the subject can easily go astray, and the final results are neither fish nor fowl.
If the scope of information warfare integrates news, economy, finance, food, network, etc., then the subject will be too high-end to start with.
HKUST students are powerful, but they are just students after all. The scope has expanded so much, rising to the international level, not limited to the military level.
Such research is often only accessible to real military experts and professors, and their discussion groups are not even close to the level.
not to mention.
It is not uncommon for graduation projects in colleges to start high and go low, with the head of a tiger but the tail of a rat. It cannot even be called a snake's tail. In short, there are many examples of miserable endings.
However, he couldn't refute it.
Because Chen Ming was right, the title of their project mentioned information warfare, and its own height has been raised.
If it is the final result, the thunder will be loud but the rain will be small, and it will definitely not pass the test.
Moreover, the research direction has been approved by the supervisor, and temporary changes are impossible.
If the final content has little reference value or is too superficial, it will be dismissed directly by the instructor.
There is no point in working for months in vain.
Chen Ming's words were merciless and revealed the fig leaf, making a group of people in the discussion room unable to raise their heads in shame.
However, as for academics, not everyone has nothing to say.
For example, Su Zitao, who was wearing glasses, lowered his head and pondered for a long time, then looked up at Chen Ming and retorted with a questioning tone: "The information war you mentioned is only of a scope and international nature. If the subject extends in this direction .”
"Then how to define the final direction of combined operations? This is completely contradictory. How can a unit fighting with hundreds of people on such a large scale have too many inevitable connections?"
"The research is not about sensationalism. Academics and research are about practicality. If the scope of information warfare is so broad, the final direction will only be beyond our control."
"An uncontrollable outcome may cause our project to die midway. I think it is better to stay grounded."
Su Zitao's conclusive rebuttal seemed reasonable, but in fact, everyone present could hear that he was running low on confidence.
That's right, it's just a lack of confidence.
The research direction, final application, finalization, and setting of the topic are all handled by their group of University of Science and Technology students. People from the army are only responsible for providing grassroots experience.
It was said that everyone jointly studied and finalized it, but when the troops came over, they only knew about this topic.
Now Chen Ming just pointed out that the research direction was wrong, and Su Zitao refuted it, saying that it was difficult to control the right direction.
Whether this can be controlled, whether it can be controlled well, does it have anything to do with Chen Ming's theory just now?
When deciding on a topic, why didn’t I think of asking?
When thinking about information warfare, why don’t we think about it so comprehensively?
Or is it that they did not have the ability to distinguish between information warfare and information-based armies in their minds at that time?
The topic has already been decided. If people point out shortcomings and wrong directions, what is there to refute?
Just when everyone was leaning toward Chen Ming, Chen Ming, who had just finished speaking and had been sitting there silently, looked up at Su Zitao again.
With a calm face, he responded with a tone of no doubt: "The scope is so broad that it can be ignored?"
"What's the difference between doing a project and doing academic work? Make bold assumptions, be cautious in verification, and be cautious in getting results. Don't you understand such a simple truth?"
Chen Ming said, standing up straight again. Anyway, he had made up his mind. In this sword-sharpening plan, he must not remain unknown. The bigger the noise, the better.
It's about the future, so I don't care about that much anymore.
What's more, this Su Zitao spoke against him again and again, to an extent that went beyond the scope of discussion and exchange. Chen Ming felt that it was necessary to teach him a lesson.
What about HKUST students?
Just because the school is awesome, doesn't mean that everyone in it is awesome. There is a mixed bag of good and bad, and they are suitable for any unit.
At least the opponent's character is not up to par, and he is worse than a private soldier.
Chen Ming stood up and raised his tone a bit, stared at Su Zitao and said calmly: "As a soldier, I am timid, so what are you doing? If you go to the army, you will also mislead your disciples."
"As a future commander and fighter, you are stuck in your position, do not want to make progress, but are proud of it, and will not do it if it is difficult?"
"Why is it that the final result may be premature? What happens if it is premature? Our ancestors engaged in academics, research, and experiments, but were they ever afraid of premature death?"
"Soldier, when you hear the word "fear", you can take off your military uniform, because there are still many dilemmas, challenges, and dangers you will face in the future." "I don't have as high an education as you. , but at least I know the concept of "cognitive domain". The battlefield is not only divided into how to fight. If everything were so simple, then those enemies who are eyeing us would have fought long ago. Why would they tolerate it? And why should we endure it?”
"We can assume that combat can be divided into the physical domain, the information domain and the cognitive domain. The cognitive domain includes human perception, understanding, beliefs, values, judgment and decision-making and other psychological and spiritual dimensions."
"In other words, if you don't occupy the high ground of your thinking, others will occupy it."
"When doing a project, I always want to research some of the simplest things, write it on it, and package it as my own results. So what's the point of doing such a project or not doing it?"
"It's a well-known thing, just go to the grassroots troops and get a veteran comrade who can give you a point of view that you can talk about, and write it into the project, aren't you ashamed?"
"Is fighting just gun against gun, cannon against cannon on the battlefield? That is the final form of war, not the only form."
“Have propaganda wars and psychological warfare played a small role in modern history?”
"Before going to war, some countries will take advantage of the opponent's illiteracy rate and use the above two tactics to alienate the people, or even brainwash them to tell them that aggression is right. Isn't this a war?"
"Do you think our biggest enemy will fight us openly? Don't be naive, they would rather spend [-] million every day to smear us, carry out cultural penetration, and cannibalize us bit by bit. This is information warfare."
"How much do you know about their methods? How many can you deal with?"
"If as soldiers and commanders and fighters of the future army, we cannot face these problems head-on and find it difficult to even take on a subject, then when we actually go face to face with such an enemy."
"Where can we retreat?"
"My pen is weak, how can I expect to be proud and have the courage to stand face to face?"
"It's funny."
"Anyone can say the word "difficulty", except soldiers, because the duties of soldiers and what they face are far from being described as "difficulty."
"Today, we retreated, and tomorrow there is no possibility of advancing."
"Why can't information warfare be combined with synthetic warfare?"
"Extensibility, variability, intersectionality, three-dimensionality, destructiveness, dispersion, mobility, continuity, aren't these aspects all related to information warfare?"
"Choose a few aspects at random, have in-depth discussions, exchanges, and combine them with reality. Why can't we define them?"
"Died young? Are you afraid of losing? Why do you wear military uniforms and do you want to be a soldier?"
Chen Ming's words were calm, but every word was precise. Su Zitao's face was so stunned that he didn't dare to raise his head.
The signature movement of pushing up glasses was gone, and Chen Ming was completely speechless.
He sat there with his head bowed and said nothing.
When Chen Ming explained information warfare just now, he just explained it from the perspective of the overall situation.
But this time, he directly denounced some people's thoughts and denounced their cowardice.
This is not as simple as removing a fig leaf, it is simply a knife in the waist, blocking even the escape route for making excuses.
Now, whoever opposes it is just complacently complacent, and whoever says it is difficult just doesn’t want to make progress.
What's going on here?
It was only then that the members of the Seventh Sword Group realized that they had really underestimated Chen Ming.
People's understanding of information warfare and synthesis is not low, and there is such a person in the seventh group.
It's not a burden, but a big help.
Team leader Wei Wenbo coughed twice in embarrassment, and the shock in his heart almost overwhelmed all his cognition. He also realized that he was indeed stingy before.
It was not about people or things, but the importance he attached to this exchange group that made him prejudiced, thinking that people from the army could not be of much help.
Wei Wenbo thought for a while and then said sincerely: "Comrade Chen Ming is right and his criticism is correct. So, let's stop here for today's discussion class."
"It is true that we were not fully prepared. Let's prepare again when we go back. We will discuss it in the cultural class next week."
"Let's all disband, there are no tasks scheduled for today."
Following the group leader's order, a group of students from the University of Science and Technology took the materials they had prepared and left without looking back.
I saw a group of veterans from the army looking at each other in confusion. It had been half a month since they had been here, and they had never seen the students leave with their heads down so low.
"Awesome, brother, I didn't expect you to keep it hidden." Pang Pangwei even rushed over and patted Chen Ming excitedly.
His impulsive look made him want to be beaten on the spot.
The veterans who came from other troops stared at Chen Ming with fierce eyes. They were so happy, so happy.
This was the first time for Group Seven that in the cultural class, people from the army suppressed the students from the University of Science and Technology, and they suppressed them firmly and submissively.
They were just shocked. Chen Ming's remarks today caused far more sensation than that.
The cultural exchange of an entire group was interrupted and suddenly postponed for a week. How could the instructor above not pay attention?
This is a big deal.
(End of this chapter)
After Chen Ming finished talking about his views, he calmly sat back in his chair.
He spit it out quickly.
But in the discussion room, everyone looked at each other, almost shaken by their outlook on life.
Is this a fucking private?Whose private knows so much?
Who would have thought just now that Chen Ming had just arrived and had just sat here and listened for a few minutes, and he could really talk a lot?
Wei Wenbo's lips twitched when he heard this, and he sat there in silence for a long time.
He also knows a little about the concept of information warfare, and he probably knows a little about the points mentioned by Chen Ming.
It's just that I can't explain it in detail like Chen Ming, I only know a little bit.
It is this similar point of view that is rarely used in project research.
Firstly, the scope is too broad, and many things are just conjectures, unable to be verified. Secondly, the scope is too large, and it is difficult to control. The direction of the subject can easily go astray, and the final results are neither fish nor fowl.
If the scope of information warfare integrates news, economy, finance, food, network, etc., then the subject will be too high-end to start with.
HKUST students are powerful, but they are just students after all. The scope has expanded so much, rising to the international level, not limited to the military level.
Such research is often only accessible to real military experts and professors, and their discussion groups are not even close to the level.
not to mention.
It is not uncommon for graduation projects in colleges to start high and go low, with the head of a tiger but the tail of a rat. It cannot even be called a snake's tail. In short, there are many examples of miserable endings.
However, he couldn't refute it.
Because Chen Ming was right, the title of their project mentioned information warfare, and its own height has been raised.
If it is the final result, the thunder will be loud but the rain will be small, and it will definitely not pass the test.
Moreover, the research direction has been approved by the supervisor, and temporary changes are impossible.
If the final content has little reference value or is too superficial, it will be dismissed directly by the instructor.
There is no point in working for months in vain.
Chen Ming's words were merciless and revealed the fig leaf, making a group of people in the discussion room unable to raise their heads in shame.
However, as for academics, not everyone has nothing to say.
For example, Su Zitao, who was wearing glasses, lowered his head and pondered for a long time, then looked up at Chen Ming and retorted with a questioning tone: "The information war you mentioned is only of a scope and international nature. If the subject extends in this direction .”
"Then how to define the final direction of combined operations? This is completely contradictory. How can a unit fighting with hundreds of people on such a large scale have too many inevitable connections?"
"The research is not about sensationalism. Academics and research are about practicality. If the scope of information warfare is so broad, the final direction will only be beyond our control."
"An uncontrollable outcome may cause our project to die midway. I think it is better to stay grounded."
Su Zitao's conclusive rebuttal seemed reasonable, but in fact, everyone present could hear that he was running low on confidence.
That's right, it's just a lack of confidence.
The research direction, final application, finalization, and setting of the topic are all handled by their group of University of Science and Technology students. People from the army are only responsible for providing grassroots experience.
It was said that everyone jointly studied and finalized it, but when the troops came over, they only knew about this topic.
Now Chen Ming just pointed out that the research direction was wrong, and Su Zitao refuted it, saying that it was difficult to control the right direction.
Whether this can be controlled, whether it can be controlled well, does it have anything to do with Chen Ming's theory just now?
When deciding on a topic, why didn’t I think of asking?
When thinking about information warfare, why don’t we think about it so comprehensively?
Or is it that they did not have the ability to distinguish between information warfare and information-based armies in their minds at that time?
The topic has already been decided. If people point out shortcomings and wrong directions, what is there to refute?
Just when everyone was leaning toward Chen Ming, Chen Ming, who had just finished speaking and had been sitting there silently, looked up at Su Zitao again.
With a calm face, he responded with a tone of no doubt: "The scope is so broad that it can be ignored?"
"What's the difference between doing a project and doing academic work? Make bold assumptions, be cautious in verification, and be cautious in getting results. Don't you understand such a simple truth?"
Chen Ming said, standing up straight again. Anyway, he had made up his mind. In this sword-sharpening plan, he must not remain unknown. The bigger the noise, the better.
It's about the future, so I don't care about that much anymore.
What's more, this Su Zitao spoke against him again and again, to an extent that went beyond the scope of discussion and exchange. Chen Ming felt that it was necessary to teach him a lesson.
What about HKUST students?
Just because the school is awesome, doesn't mean that everyone in it is awesome. There is a mixed bag of good and bad, and they are suitable for any unit.
At least the opponent's character is not up to par, and he is worse than a private soldier.
Chen Ming stood up and raised his tone a bit, stared at Su Zitao and said calmly: "As a soldier, I am timid, so what are you doing? If you go to the army, you will also mislead your disciples."
"As a future commander and fighter, you are stuck in your position, do not want to make progress, but are proud of it, and will not do it if it is difficult?"
"Why is it that the final result may be premature? What happens if it is premature? Our ancestors engaged in academics, research, and experiments, but were they ever afraid of premature death?"
"Soldier, when you hear the word "fear", you can take off your military uniform, because there are still many dilemmas, challenges, and dangers you will face in the future." "I don't have as high an education as you. , but at least I know the concept of "cognitive domain". The battlefield is not only divided into how to fight. If everything were so simple, then those enemies who are eyeing us would have fought long ago. Why would they tolerate it? And why should we endure it?”
"We can assume that combat can be divided into the physical domain, the information domain and the cognitive domain. The cognitive domain includes human perception, understanding, beliefs, values, judgment and decision-making and other psychological and spiritual dimensions."
"In other words, if you don't occupy the high ground of your thinking, others will occupy it."
"When doing a project, I always want to research some of the simplest things, write it on it, and package it as my own results. So what's the point of doing such a project or not doing it?"
"It's a well-known thing, just go to the grassroots troops and get a veteran comrade who can give you a point of view that you can talk about, and write it into the project, aren't you ashamed?"
"Is fighting just gun against gun, cannon against cannon on the battlefield? That is the final form of war, not the only form."
“Have propaganda wars and psychological warfare played a small role in modern history?”
"Before going to war, some countries will take advantage of the opponent's illiteracy rate and use the above two tactics to alienate the people, or even brainwash them to tell them that aggression is right. Isn't this a war?"
"Do you think our biggest enemy will fight us openly? Don't be naive, they would rather spend [-] million every day to smear us, carry out cultural penetration, and cannibalize us bit by bit. This is information warfare."
"How much do you know about their methods? How many can you deal with?"
"If as soldiers and commanders and fighters of the future army, we cannot face these problems head-on and find it difficult to even take on a subject, then when we actually go face to face with such an enemy."
"Where can we retreat?"
"My pen is weak, how can I expect to be proud and have the courage to stand face to face?"
"It's funny."
"Anyone can say the word "difficulty", except soldiers, because the duties of soldiers and what they face are far from being described as "difficulty."
"Today, we retreated, and tomorrow there is no possibility of advancing."
"Why can't information warfare be combined with synthetic warfare?"
"Extensibility, variability, intersectionality, three-dimensionality, destructiveness, dispersion, mobility, continuity, aren't these aspects all related to information warfare?"
"Choose a few aspects at random, have in-depth discussions, exchanges, and combine them with reality. Why can't we define them?"
"Died young? Are you afraid of losing? Why do you wear military uniforms and do you want to be a soldier?"
Chen Ming's words were calm, but every word was precise. Su Zitao's face was so stunned that he didn't dare to raise his head.
The signature movement of pushing up glasses was gone, and Chen Ming was completely speechless.
He sat there with his head bowed and said nothing.
When Chen Ming explained information warfare just now, he just explained it from the perspective of the overall situation.
But this time, he directly denounced some people's thoughts and denounced their cowardice.
This is not as simple as removing a fig leaf, it is simply a knife in the waist, blocking even the escape route for making excuses.
Now, whoever opposes it is just complacently complacent, and whoever says it is difficult just doesn’t want to make progress.
What's going on here?
It was only then that the members of the Seventh Sword Group realized that they had really underestimated Chen Ming.
People's understanding of information warfare and synthesis is not low, and there is such a person in the seventh group.
It's not a burden, but a big help.
Team leader Wei Wenbo coughed twice in embarrassment, and the shock in his heart almost overwhelmed all his cognition. He also realized that he was indeed stingy before.
It was not about people or things, but the importance he attached to this exchange group that made him prejudiced, thinking that people from the army could not be of much help.
Wei Wenbo thought for a while and then said sincerely: "Comrade Chen Ming is right and his criticism is correct. So, let's stop here for today's discussion class."
"It is true that we were not fully prepared. Let's prepare again when we go back. We will discuss it in the cultural class next week."
"Let's all disband, there are no tasks scheduled for today."
Following the group leader's order, a group of students from the University of Science and Technology took the materials they had prepared and left without looking back.
I saw a group of veterans from the army looking at each other in confusion. It had been half a month since they had been here, and they had never seen the students leave with their heads down so low.
"Awesome, brother, I didn't expect you to keep it hidden." Pang Pangwei even rushed over and patted Chen Ming excitedly.
His impulsive look made him want to be beaten on the spot.
The veterans who came from other troops stared at Chen Ming with fierce eyes. They were so happy, so happy.
This was the first time for Group Seven that in the cultural class, people from the army suppressed the students from the University of Science and Technology, and they suppressed them firmly and submissively.
They were just shocked. Chen Ming's remarks today caused far more sensation than that.
The cultural exchange of an entire group was interrupted and suddenly postponed for a week. How could the instructor above not pay attention?
This is a big deal.
(End of this chapter)
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