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Chapter 150
Chapter 150
"Your Majesty, Yuan Keli is the governor of water transportation and is responsible for the important task of transporting grain. If he prepares sea ships again, he may not be able to do it and miss the important events of the court. It is better to choose a suitable person to take charge of it. As long as the shipbuilding craftsmen are there, there should be no difference."
Seeing that Shen Li and Wen Chun were both defeated, Li Tingji, the newly promoted cabinet scholar, couldn't help but secretly rejoice.The setback of the two Donglin Party bosses was a good time for the Zhejiang Party to come forward.
On the issue of opposing the construction of sea-going ships, the Donglin Party and the Zhejiang Party are allies on the same front, but their strategies do not have to be exactly the same.You are too stupid, and it will definitely not work if you confront a well-prepared emperor in an unfamiliar field.
Then let's look at our constraints. Isn't Yuan Keli good at building ships? Then we should find a way to prevent him from direct jurisdiction and replace it with an official.The more people in charge, the lower the efficiency and the more mistakes there will be. This is a simple truth.
As long as it can be delayed for a year and a half, and there is time to destroy the craftsmen and key personnel, the sea-going ship will still not be built.At that time, no matter how anxious the emperor was, it would be in vain, and he could only break his teeth and swallow it in his stomach.
There is no chance of reactivating Yuan Keli. It is impossible to give him the opportunity to build a shipyard and gather shipbuilders steadily. He can just find a few officials to deal with it. No matter how capable he is, he has to go home and endure it.The emperor will not fall out with most officials because of the departure or stay of one official. This is also an official practice.
"...Yes, you can't do two things at once... However, the county magistrate is not as good as taking charge now. Yuan Keli has already built the sea-going ship, so it would be very troublesome to replace him midway, which is not good for the construction.
The matter of water transportation is indeed a major event and cannot be ignored for a day... It is better to remove him from the post of governor of water transportation and be dedicated to the governor of suppressing bandits. He is a fourth-rank official and not permanent. His duties are to build sea ships, destroy pirates, and prevent Japanese pirates. "
Faced with the problem of who should manage the shipyard, the emperor seemed to have no good solution. He fell into deep thought for a while, which immediately gave the officials who opposed the new large-scale ship to suppress bandits hope and cheered up.
But good moods are always short-lived. In less than half a cup of tea, the emperor had a new idea. He actually wanted to remove Yuan Keli from the position of governor of water transportation and devote himself to building sea ships and suppressing bandits.
You must know that the Governor of Water Transport is a very wealthy man. How could he have fallen into the hands of outsiders if he had not been deceived by the emperor.Now the fat job was suddenly recovered, but no one was happy, because with it a new position was born, the bandit-suppressing governor!
Even though his rank is much lower than that of the Governor of Water Transport, it is still unsettling.Mainly to suppress bandits, the governor was sent on a temporary basis. He was regarded as an imperial envoy sent by the emperor and was not under the control of any department.
When will the errands be done and the position will be revoked...who knows!As long as there are pirates, it doesn't need to be revoked.The question is, from ancient times to the present, who has ever heard that the sea is calm and free of bandits and thieves?This motherfucker is obviously cheating, but there is no way to expose it, so-called conspiracy!
"Your Majesty, building sea ships costs a lot of money. I wonder where this expense will come from?" Three consecutive big moves were easily resolved by the emperor. The ministers could not think of new moves for a while. At this time, Hu Minister Zhao Shiqing spoke.
He is a complete neutralist, always taking matters into his own hands and rarely getting involved in court battles.But this time we can no longer protect ourselves and pretend to be stupid. Building a sea-going ship will definitely cost a lot of money.
According to the records of the Ministry of Household Affairs, when Emperor Yongle built escort warships, the price of bare materials for each hull was around 7000 taels, and the cost of labor costs was tens of thousands. This was the price 200 years ago!
Moreover, the hull alone cannot be used to go into the sea. It must be equipped with sail gear, ropes, various living facilities, etc., and it costs 2000 taels of silver.No one can make a bareboat?Even if each ship carries 200 people, food, clothing, clothing, weapons, and salaries are still a huge expense over the course of a year.With the current economic situation of the imperial court, it cannot afford to support dozens of warships, let alone hundreds of warships.A sea-going ship only invests in consumables that produce no output. Once it sinks in a big storm, tens of thousands of taels of silver will be lost. You won't even risk a splash, it will be a pure loss!
No matter what other people's opinions are, or how legitimate the emperor's reasons are, anyway, the Ministry of Revenue has no money, and if it has money, it will not be idle.This is his attitude, even when facing the emperor.
"Zhao Shangshu, you are reading the old almanac. Governor Yuan stated in detail in the memorial that the hull of a two-masted clipper with 8 materials, 6 feet 2 feet long and 7 feet 400 feet wide, was selected. The money was 560 taels, the labor cost was only 60 taels, and it took two and a half months.
The hull of a three-masted warship with a length of more than 15 feet and a width of 4 feet and 6 feet is made of 5000 materials. It is also made of high-quality nanmu. The material cost is 4000 taels and the labor is 500 taels. It only took five months.
If Taicang cannot come up with the money, it will be paid by the inner treasury.I thought that if we build two or three ships first to test the effect, even if it is not satisfactory, the loss will not be big.If it is suitable for use and built in large numbers, what do you think? "
The Ministry of Revenue does have some files on the Yongle Dynasty's construction of long-distance voyages. Hong Tao has also read them and understands what Zhao Shiqing is worried about.However, after actual testing and the use of hydraulic sawing machines instead of labor, the cost of building a sailboat was no different from that of 200 years ago.
The keel splicing technology further reduces the cost and difficulty of building sailboats, and the larger the hull, the lower the relative cost.After all, there is no need to ask for a whole big piece of wood. As long as the material is suitable, a few short pieces of wood can be spliced into a complete keel.
With the help of machinery, half of the labor can be saved and the construction speed can be doubled.If the supply of dry wood were not insufficient, the Haihe Shipyard could even start construction of five or six warships at the same time, and the cost could be reduced by another [-]%.
However, the cost of these two ship types is only the hull, not including all accessories and sails on the deck, not to mention weapons and soldiers.If they are all equipped, it cannot be calculated now. At least the cost of the artillery is a mystery. We have to wait for Zhao Shizhen to come up with samples.
As for whether it is affordable to build and maintain, in fact, it has nothing to do with the later investment, but depends on the thinking mode.Sea-going ships, especially ocean-going ships, should not be a financial burden from the day they are launched, but should be revenue-generating tools.
In the world at the same time, I am afraid that only the Ming Dynasty had this concern.Others are eager to tear down all the beams in the palace and build ships to go out to sea, because they can make money and make a lot of money.
Sometimes Hong Tao wondered what the rulers of the Ming and Qing dynasties were thinking. He watched helplessly as Franji, Hongmao Yi, and British businessmen drove over thousands of miles in big ships and worked tirelessly to get there, making everyone's mouth water.Then he just looked at it like this, even though the people in the country were not well fed or clothed, but he didn't think anything of it.
I can't think of a way to make money, and I can't imitate cats and tigers. But when I mention the internal strife torturing the people, my creativity immediately goes straight to the sky. They are all vanguards and Zhuge Liang, and their schemes are endless.
It wasn’t until I was beaten all over the place that I thought of learning from others. I didn’t study seriously. I had to be picky and picky. I only wanted immediate results, and all the foundations and systems were thrown aside.It seems that someone else can catch up with and surpass the achievements that others have developed over hundreds of years by tinkering with them for ten days and a half!Is he stupid or bad?
The most frightening thing is that this kind of thinking mode can be passed down through genes. The ancestors summed it up so rightly, dragons give birth to dragons and phoenixes, and the sons of mice can dig holes!
(End of this chapter)
"Your Majesty, Yuan Keli is the governor of water transportation and is responsible for the important task of transporting grain. If he prepares sea ships again, he may not be able to do it and miss the important events of the court. It is better to choose a suitable person to take charge of it. As long as the shipbuilding craftsmen are there, there should be no difference."
Seeing that Shen Li and Wen Chun were both defeated, Li Tingji, the newly promoted cabinet scholar, couldn't help but secretly rejoice.The setback of the two Donglin Party bosses was a good time for the Zhejiang Party to come forward.
On the issue of opposing the construction of sea-going ships, the Donglin Party and the Zhejiang Party are allies on the same front, but their strategies do not have to be exactly the same.You are too stupid, and it will definitely not work if you confront a well-prepared emperor in an unfamiliar field.
Then let's look at our constraints. Isn't Yuan Keli good at building ships? Then we should find a way to prevent him from direct jurisdiction and replace it with an official.The more people in charge, the lower the efficiency and the more mistakes there will be. This is a simple truth.
As long as it can be delayed for a year and a half, and there is time to destroy the craftsmen and key personnel, the sea-going ship will still not be built.At that time, no matter how anxious the emperor was, it would be in vain, and he could only break his teeth and swallow it in his stomach.
There is no chance of reactivating Yuan Keli. It is impossible to give him the opportunity to build a shipyard and gather shipbuilders steadily. He can just find a few officials to deal with it. No matter how capable he is, he has to go home and endure it.The emperor will not fall out with most officials because of the departure or stay of one official. This is also an official practice.
"...Yes, you can't do two things at once... However, the county magistrate is not as good as taking charge now. Yuan Keli has already built the sea-going ship, so it would be very troublesome to replace him midway, which is not good for the construction.
The matter of water transportation is indeed a major event and cannot be ignored for a day... It is better to remove him from the post of governor of water transportation and be dedicated to the governor of suppressing bandits. He is a fourth-rank official and not permanent. His duties are to build sea ships, destroy pirates, and prevent Japanese pirates. "
Faced with the problem of who should manage the shipyard, the emperor seemed to have no good solution. He fell into deep thought for a while, which immediately gave the officials who opposed the new large-scale ship to suppress bandits hope and cheered up.
But good moods are always short-lived. In less than half a cup of tea, the emperor had a new idea. He actually wanted to remove Yuan Keli from the position of governor of water transportation and devote himself to building sea ships and suppressing bandits.
You must know that the Governor of Water Transport is a very wealthy man. How could he have fallen into the hands of outsiders if he had not been deceived by the emperor.Now the fat job was suddenly recovered, but no one was happy, because with it a new position was born, the bandit-suppressing governor!
Even though his rank is much lower than that of the Governor of Water Transport, it is still unsettling.Mainly to suppress bandits, the governor was sent on a temporary basis. He was regarded as an imperial envoy sent by the emperor and was not under the control of any department.
When will the errands be done and the position will be revoked...who knows!As long as there are pirates, it doesn't need to be revoked.The question is, from ancient times to the present, who has ever heard that the sea is calm and free of bandits and thieves?This motherfucker is obviously cheating, but there is no way to expose it, so-called conspiracy!
"Your Majesty, building sea ships costs a lot of money. I wonder where this expense will come from?" Three consecutive big moves were easily resolved by the emperor. The ministers could not think of new moves for a while. At this time, Hu Minister Zhao Shiqing spoke.
He is a complete neutralist, always taking matters into his own hands and rarely getting involved in court battles.But this time we can no longer protect ourselves and pretend to be stupid. Building a sea-going ship will definitely cost a lot of money.
According to the records of the Ministry of Household Affairs, when Emperor Yongle built escort warships, the price of bare materials for each hull was around 7000 taels, and the cost of labor costs was tens of thousands. This was the price 200 years ago!
Moreover, the hull alone cannot be used to go into the sea. It must be equipped with sail gear, ropes, various living facilities, etc., and it costs 2000 taels of silver.No one can make a bareboat?Even if each ship carries 200 people, food, clothing, clothing, weapons, and salaries are still a huge expense over the course of a year.With the current economic situation of the imperial court, it cannot afford to support dozens of warships, let alone hundreds of warships.A sea-going ship only invests in consumables that produce no output. Once it sinks in a big storm, tens of thousands of taels of silver will be lost. You won't even risk a splash, it will be a pure loss!
No matter what other people's opinions are, or how legitimate the emperor's reasons are, anyway, the Ministry of Revenue has no money, and if it has money, it will not be idle.This is his attitude, even when facing the emperor.
"Zhao Shangshu, you are reading the old almanac. Governor Yuan stated in detail in the memorial that the hull of a two-masted clipper with 8 materials, 6 feet 2 feet long and 7 feet 400 feet wide, was selected. The money was 560 taels, the labor cost was only 60 taels, and it took two and a half months.
The hull of a three-masted warship with a length of more than 15 feet and a width of 4 feet and 6 feet is made of 5000 materials. It is also made of high-quality nanmu. The material cost is 4000 taels and the labor is 500 taels. It only took five months.
If Taicang cannot come up with the money, it will be paid by the inner treasury.I thought that if we build two or three ships first to test the effect, even if it is not satisfactory, the loss will not be big.If it is suitable for use and built in large numbers, what do you think? "
The Ministry of Revenue does have some files on the Yongle Dynasty's construction of long-distance voyages. Hong Tao has also read them and understands what Zhao Shiqing is worried about.However, after actual testing and the use of hydraulic sawing machines instead of labor, the cost of building a sailboat was no different from that of 200 years ago.
The keel splicing technology further reduces the cost and difficulty of building sailboats, and the larger the hull, the lower the relative cost.After all, there is no need to ask for a whole big piece of wood. As long as the material is suitable, a few short pieces of wood can be spliced into a complete keel.
With the help of machinery, half of the labor can be saved and the construction speed can be doubled.If the supply of dry wood were not insufficient, the Haihe Shipyard could even start construction of five or six warships at the same time, and the cost could be reduced by another [-]%.
However, the cost of these two ship types is only the hull, not including all accessories and sails on the deck, not to mention weapons and soldiers.If they are all equipped, it cannot be calculated now. At least the cost of the artillery is a mystery. We have to wait for Zhao Shizhen to come up with samples.
As for whether it is affordable to build and maintain, in fact, it has nothing to do with the later investment, but depends on the thinking mode.Sea-going ships, especially ocean-going ships, should not be a financial burden from the day they are launched, but should be revenue-generating tools.
In the world at the same time, I am afraid that only the Ming Dynasty had this concern.Others are eager to tear down all the beams in the palace and build ships to go out to sea, because they can make money and make a lot of money.
Sometimes Hong Tao wondered what the rulers of the Ming and Qing dynasties were thinking. He watched helplessly as Franji, Hongmao Yi, and British businessmen drove over thousands of miles in big ships and worked tirelessly to get there, making everyone's mouth water.Then he just looked at it like this, even though the people in the country were not well fed or clothed, but he didn't think anything of it.
I can't think of a way to make money, and I can't imitate cats and tigers. But when I mention the internal strife torturing the people, my creativity immediately goes straight to the sky. They are all vanguards and Zhuge Liang, and their schemes are endless.
It wasn’t until I was beaten all over the place that I thought of learning from others. I didn’t study seriously. I had to be picky and picky. I only wanted immediate results, and all the foundations and systems were thrown aside.It seems that someone else can catch up with and surpass the achievements that others have developed over hundreds of years by tinkering with them for ten days and a half!Is he stupid or bad?
The most frightening thing is that this kind of thinking mode can be passed down through genes. The ancestors summed it up so rightly, dragons give birth to dragons and phoenixes, and the sons of mice can dig holes!
(End of this chapter)
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