You say you have an iron will, are you serious?

Chapter 330 Professor Zhao, why do you have no idea?

Large-scale basic scientific research projects are prone to problems, which is inevitable.

Engineering is practice, and practice is different from theory and is full of problems. There is no problem without reality. People can only try to make the project as close to theory as possible and eliminate various influencing factors.

The bigger the project, the more problems there are.

In particular, large-scale basic scientific research projects all use the most advanced technology and products in the world today.

The most advanced means having the most powerful performance. But at the same time, the most advanced also means unstable, otherwise it is not advanced, and it has been promoted and applied in society on a large scale.

Therefore, looking at science from a higher level, our country’s idea and the dialectical thinking talked about by Chairman Mao are YYDS.

Of course, if you don't reach a certain level, you won't be able to understand this. Instead, you will think that this is nonsense. Science is science. If it is mixed with politics, it will have no innovation and no future.

Zhao Mo has gradually understood this recently, but listening to Gao Zhiqiang's complaints, he still couldn't help but feel speechless. This is not the case for a large-scale basic scientific research project that is prone to problems, right?

Problems occur every now and then?

How to do research on this?

The time span is so long that it is truly speechless.

The two chatted for a while. In addition to high-energy physics, Professor Gao Zhiqiang also talked about superconductivity-related topics.

Gao Zhiqiang first asked Zhao Mo if he knew about some recent scientific research results on superconductivity at the University of Tokyo.

"do not know!"

Zhao Mo shook his head first, then asked with a smile: "Have they mastered room-temperature superconductivity?"

"Cough cough~"

Gao Zhiqiang was immediately choked and couldn't laugh or cry: "Of course not. If they succeed in room-temperature superconductivity, then the whole world will change. Is there any peace now?"

After that, he introduced the scientific research results he knew.

Only then did Zhao Mo understand what was going on.

It turns out that Professor Yoshihide Tokura of the University of Tokyo discovered a new iron-based superconducting structure that achieved high-temperature superconductivity above 60K. He also discovered an interface superconducting mode, which is to grow thin films on the surface of a special substrate. One atomic layer. These papers were published in Nature, which injected new vitality into the field of "iron-based superconductivity" and made this field popular again.

"That's it?"

Zhao Mo secretly thought, knowing that these achievements were indeed groundbreaking, but for a latecomer, he knew that these achievements were just some initial steps on the road to room-temperature superconductivity, not even steps.

Twenty years later, room temperature superconductivity is still far away.

Not to mention room temperature superconductivity, even high temperature superconductivity is still expensive and the usage conditions are very high!

Of course, Zhao Mo would not deny it, so after Gao Zhiqiang finished the introduction, he just smiled, nodded and said, "It's pretty good."

Listening to his response, Gao Zhiqiang was speechless: "..."

No, what do you mean by pretty good?

Can this kind of scientific research achievement, which can be called a major breakthrough, only be regarded as pretty good in your case?

Good guy, since I built a 1,000-ton thrust rocket engine and won the Fields Medal, the requirements are getting higher and higher now!

For a moment, he didn't know how to answer the question.

Zhao Mo saw that he had stopped talking, and his face looked a little strange. He was vaguely aware of some of his thoughts, but he did not explain it. Instead, he asked: "Which teams here are studying this area?"

Gao Zhiqiang was still a little uneasy and reluctantly replied: "The team of Academician Zhao Xian of the Institute of Physics of the Chinese Academy of Sciences has done more in-depth research. Others include the team of Professor Han Lin of Yan University."

Zhao Mo continued to ask: "Is it also an iron-based superconductor?"

Gao Zhiqiang nodded and replied: "Mainly, but I am also trying other materials."

Zhao Mo nodded to express his understanding and thought to himself: "Although it was the team of Little Book Nishino Bear who first discovered iron-based superconductivity, and our achievements in this area have given them gold to a certain extent, we all started from the same starting line. It’s also an engineering problem, so there’s nothing to worry about. What’s more, the final result of room temperature superconductivity will probably not be in this direction.”

Iron-based superconductivity, a compound containing iron, was discovered in 2006.

At that time, the original intention of Xiaobo Nishino Bear's team was to develop new materials for display applications, just like he invented indium gallium zinc oxide. Unexpectedly, they successfully discovered the high-temperature superconducting superconducting properties of iron-based materials, and in one fell swoop, they discovered the previously silent superconducting properties. The long-standing field of superconductivity has once again been pushed to the forefront and exploded.

Latecomers, those who have made achievements in research on iron-based superconductivity, can add or subtract based on Nishino Bear's research.

According to Zhao Mo's understanding, Nishino Bear is therefore the favorite for the Nobel Prize every year, although he fails every year.

"Looking at this trend, everyone is relatively optimistic. Room-temperature superconductivity is expected to be realized in the next twenty years~"

Gao Zhiqiang then talked about the discussions within the circle.

"..."

Zhao Mo was a little speechless, shook his head and said: "I don't think so. I think that before the theory is clear, blindly relying on one material after another and constantly doping experiments like this will not work in the next twenty years. It’s definitely impossible to achieve room-temperature superconductivity. Even if we use a large AI model to do experiments, we still can’t do it.”

Gao Zhiqiang was shocked: "Uh..."

He didn't expect Zhao Mo to be so pessimistic.

When they were about to speak, Mr. Yang's voice rang from the side: "What can't be solved?" The two turned around and saw that Mr. Yang had finished reading the paper and was rubbing his eyes to ask them.

Zhao Mo smiled and explained the discussion between the two of them just now.

Mr. Yang nodded, first handed the report to Gao Zhiqiang, and then asked Zhao Mo with a smile: "The theories are all based on reality. I don't think there must be a theory to achieve room temperature superconductivity. Or Xiao Zhao, do you already have an idea?" ?”

Zhao Mo suddenly felt ashamed: "Mr. Yang, I have no idea."

Yang Lao joked: "You are Professor Zhao, how come you don't have any ideas? You should have some ideas."

Zhao Mo: "Ahem, really not!"

"Really not?"

Mr. Yang looked at him seriously and asked.

"Really not!"

This time, Zhao Mo answered very seriously and his tone was decisive.

Mr. Yang looked at him strangely and said, "That shouldn't be the case. Xiao Zhao, you have always been very thoughtful. Looking at your report, I didn't know you had thought so much during this period. You have so many ideas that I can't I dare not think about it anymore. Not only did I design the project plan, but I also developed a new algorithm to calculate the brightness of the light source to billions of times?"

Zhao Mo: "..."

Boss, are you criticizing or praising?

He felt like he wanted to be happy but didn't want to be happy.

"The fourth-generation synchrotron radiation light source? Didn't the third-generation synchrotron radiation light source just be built in the Magic City?"

Gao Zhiqiang's surprised voice helped him smooth things over.

The first time he got the report, Gao Zhiqiang was stunned just by looking at the title. He immediately raised his head and looked at Zhao Mo. He didn't understand how Zhao Mo had such an idea and made such a report.

Zhao Mo looked at him and smiled: "The third-generation synchrotron radiation light source will be built as soon as it is built. This is the fourth generation, high-energy synchrotron radiation. There is no conflict between the two."

Great God, that’s not what I asked!

Gao Zhiqiang coughed and reminded tactfully: "The investment in this kind of project exceeds tens of billions. Is it necessary to build the fourth generation in such a hurry?"

In his opinion, Zhao Mo's report recommendations are inappropriate.

The third-generation synchrotron radiation light source in Modu, which was only completed and put into official use last year, is sufficient for some basic scientific research at this stage. The country is still short of money. We just spent tens of billions to build a third-generation building. If you turn around and ask the country to build a fourth-generation building, the country will definitely not agree.

Even if "high energy" is added, the essence is still the same. Will it cost a lot of money?

"I understand this~"

Zhao Mo nodded and then explained: "According to my estimation, the investment in the fourth generation will not exceed nine billion, but the value that can be produced will not be nine billion, but ninety billion, or even 8 billion. More importantly, the third generation is actually relatively backward in technology internationally. As far as I know, many scientific research teams have gone to the SPring- next door to do their projects. Why? It’s because other people’s ones are more advanced and more powerful than ours.”

Gao Zhiqiang: "..."

Hearing this, he had to remain silent because what Zhao Mo said was true.

We do not have a high-energy synchrotron radiation light source. The third-generation synchrotron radiation light source in Shanghai is not “high-energy”.

The so-called high energy means that the beam energy of the emitted electrons is extremely high. The higher the energy, the more the spectrum of the synchrotron radiation light source expands to the high-energy end, the more things can be seen, and the more things in the microscopic world can be learned. See the virus structure clearly, observe how drugs and targets work, observe the surface of the chip at the atomic level... and so on.

Just like shining a flashlight, the brighter the light, the more you can see and the easier it is to walk.

For example, with technology like observing the surface of a chip at the atomic level, don’t you know how others do it when you see it?

That's how reverse engineering comes about.

The third-generation synchrotron radiation light source of Modu runs at 3.5 Gev, which is the highest in my country. But the small book SPring-8 can directly reach 8Gev, which is the highest in the world, so others have the word "8" in their names, just to tell everyone, look, I am the best.

"I'll read the report first~"

Gao Zhiqiang then read the report carefully.

Mr. Yang smiled slightly and asked: "Xiao Zhao, I am very satisfied with your report, but it is not easy to convince the country, and the conditions of Wudaokou are not enough to undertake such a large project."

"Thank you Mr. Yang!"

Zhao Mo knew that Mr. Yang agreed with his idea. He was so happy that he quickly asked: "Can you please give me some advice~"

Mr. Yang laughed and said, "You little naughty boy", and then slowly said the name of a unit: "Chinese Academy of Sciences!"

Zhao Mo thought for a while, nodded and replied: "Okay!"

Indeed, for such a large scientific research project, Wudaokou, as a university unit, is indeed not suitable to be the main player in the construction. On the other hand, the Chinese Academy of Sciences, a national institution, is a natural fit.

(End of this chapter)