Chapter 236 This hole cannot be opened

"Appellee, do you have any comments on cross-examination of the evidence?"

Zhang Guangzhi looked so carefully that the judge became a little impatient while waiting.

Lu Guangchao saw Zhang Guangzhi's little thoughts and didn't want to rush him at first, but with so many people waiting, he couldn't just let him go.

"Well, wait a minute. It should be gone."

Zhang Guangzhi also knew not to challenge the judge's patience, so he pretended to turn over the facts a few more times, and the evidence presentation and cross-examination session was finally over.

“Then let’s move on to the court debate, with the appellant starting first.”

In fact, there is no need for the judge to say it. These people in the court also know very well that Ren Zhen will definitely continue to follow the question just now.

“The respondent mentioned in his rebuttal to our appeal just now that according to relevant regulations of our country, the resident ID card should be filled in with standardized Chinese characters and numerical symbols that comply with national standards. We have reached an agreement on this.

So through the evidence just shown, I think it is enough to prove that Chinese pinyin is not a standard Chinese character.

According to the relevant content of my country’s Chinese Pinyin Program, the most important use of Chinese Pinyin at present is to notate Chinese characters and serve as a tool for teaching Mandarin. In other words, Chinese Pinyin is an auxiliary tool for us to use standardized Chinese characters, as well as standardized Chinese characters. They cannot be lumped together. "

Ren Zhen glanced at Zhang Guangzhi. His face was as dark as water, and he was obviously still thinking about countermeasures:

"As for what the respondent mentioned, C, as a symbol, is a universal standard symbol internationally. What the appellant wants to emphasize is that English letters are universal standard symbols internationally, which does not mean that they can certainly be used as our The use of numerical symbols in the Resident Identity Card Law.

To take a step back, my country's current relevant legal regulations do not clearly stipulate how the digital symbols that meet national standards in our country should be used in resident ID cards.

In other words, it is still uncertain whether English letters are in line with our national standard symbols. Even if the answer is yes, we still have to consider how the letters should be used in ID cards. "

"The appellant also said that how C should be used in the ID card should be considered, but the appellee believes that based on most of the ID cards in our country, since X can be used on the ID card, then the same, C should also be given the same status as X."

Zhang Guangzhi had already lost the battle on the issue of whether C was a standard text. Zhang Guangzhi knew that it was pointless to dwell too much on this issue, so he instead seized on the example he gave using his own ID card.

Hearing this, Wang Suning, who was sitting next to Ren Zhen, became a little nervous.

From the court hearing to just now, everything seemed to be going smoothly. He was still rejoicing just now. It was a wise choice to come to Ren Zhen this time. It was obviously the same appeal and point of view, but they could give completely different reasons. , and also pointed out the loopholes in Zhang Guangzhi’s speech.

But the problem Zhang Guangzhi is talking about now is actually something that has always been on his mind.

Zhang Guangzhi also raised this issue during the first trial. They did not give a good response at that time, so these days he has been thinking about whether this X can give a reasonable explanation that is beneficial to his side.

Unfortunately, he didn't find the answer, so now he is inevitably nervous. If Ren Zhen failed to give a decent response, wouldn't the lawsuit be lost just because of this?

Wang Suning's palms were a little sweaty.

"Appellant, do you have any response to this question?"

Lu Guangchao looked at Ren Zhen, and he actually had some thoughts in his mind. This X was used on the ID number and had never been used on the name.

But he was also a little curious, could this lawyer think of this level? If so, what kind of argument would he give?

"Have."

Ren Zhen smiled without any trace of panic:

“First of all, regarding the X mentioned by the appellee, we admit that there are indeed many people with this letter on their ID cards, but we must also see that, without exception, these Location.

But in this case, the C in Zhang C was placed on the line of his name. These are two completely different situations. "

"But they all appear on the ID card. Why can it be placed on the ID number, but not on the name?"

Zhang Guangzhi knew that his question was a bit silly, but it should undoubtedly be effective.

"We have to go back and look at the provisions of Article 2 of the Resident Identity Card Law that the respondent has repeatedly mentioned."

Ren Zhen had already thought of his words:

“We all know that resident ID cards should be filled in using standardized Chinese characters and numerical symbols, but the Resident Identity Card Law does not provide clear regulations on where to use standardized Chinese characters and where to use numerical symbols.

So how should we understand and apply this provision in the absence of clear provisions in the law?

According to the logic of the respondent, X can be used as an ID number, and C should be used as a name. This seems to be a very reasonable explanation of this legal provision, but if we analyze this in depth If you use some logic, you will find that this understanding is actually wrong. "

Zhang Guangzhi still wants to refute, why do you say my logic is wrong?

But Ren Zhen didn't stop to give him a chance to refute:

“We tentatively believe that X or C are the symbols mentioned by the respondent, but where should this symbol be used?

In other words, is it appropriate to use symbols in the name column?

I think the answer is clear when I put it this way.

According to ordinary people's logical thinking, standardized Chinese characters should of course be used in the name column. However, considering the particularity and length of the ID number, adding numerical symbols is obviously more convenient for recording and distinguishing, and prevents overlap or overlap of ID numbers. It's a confusing situation.

Therefore, although the law does not specify where Chinese characters and numerical symbols should be used in ID cards, based on the usage habits of Chinese characters and symbols, as well as the original legislative intention of the Resident ID Card Law, only the name column should be used. It is more appropriate to standardize Chinese characters. "

Ren Zhen's detailed analysis clearly touched the hearts of the judges, and they all couldn't help but nod.

"What's more, the respondent's claim that X is used as a numeric symbol in the ID card is actually untrue."

Ren Zhen is not over yet:

“If the respondent had carefully studied the coding rules of our ID number, he would have known that the X was actually placed on the ID number as a substitute for a number.

Each of our ID numbers has 18 digits. The first 17 digits are called the 'body code' of the ID card, and the last digit is the 'check code' used to verify authenticity.

Add the first 17 digits of the ID card according to the predetermined coefficients, and you will get a total of 0 different verification codes from 10 to 11. The last digit of some people's ID numbers is X because of their verification The code is exactly 10.

In order to maintain the uniformity that our ID numbers are all 18 digits, X is used instead of 10 as a special check code.

So in essence, X only became a substitute for the number 10 due to special reasons. Instead of being used as an English letter in the ID number, it naturally became the number that symbolizes the national standard stipulated in the Resident Identity Card Law. symbol.

The respondent's logic for identifying "

Wonderful!

In contrast to the ugly face of Zhang Guangzhi opposite him, the joy on Wang Suning's face was not concealed at all.

Is this how X came to be? Learned a lot!

I couldn't say a word to refute X before, but lawyer Ren could give some untenable reasons, even two. Is this because there is specialization in the profession?

If I had known that I would come to him during the first trial, it wouldn't have taken so long.

When Wang Suning had already decided that the mission was completed, Zhang Guangzhi still had to speak.

“The appellant pointed out in his appeal that the reason why he disagreed with the plaintiff Zhang C’s use of this name was that in addition to violating the relevant provisions of the law, it also violated public order and good customs.

But in Zhang C's more than ten years of life experience, whether he was studying for exams, buying insurance, or going to the bank to handle business, using this name has never caused any trouble, nor has it ever had any negative impact.

The name Zhang C does not fundamentally violate public order and good customs, it is just inconsistent with the cultural habits of our people.

According to ordinary people's understanding, the C in Zhang C is indeed an English letter, but it is also one of the Chinese Pinyin letters. The respondent believes that this C is not enough to cause an unacceptable situation to the conscience of ordinary people.

Even compared to names like Zhang Shikeng and Zhang Mao, which are composed entirely of standardized Chinese characters, Zhang C is obviously more neutral and ordinary, and will not have any impact on others, so Zhang C does not violate public order and good customs. "

After hearing Zhang Guangzhi's example, even the judges would have lost their composure if they were not still in court.

Zhang Shiteng? Are you Zhang?

You are really a genius at naming names!

"The example cited by the appellee is too extreme. We still have to look at it from the perspective of ordinary people."

Ren Zhen was not confused by this heavy lifting: "C is indeed one of our Chinese Pinyin letters, but more obviously, it has a greater weight in the public mind as a foreign letter.

As a foreign alphabet, English letters do not have a higher legal status than other foreign letters, let alone the same legal status as standardized Chinese characters.

If we think that C can be used as a name, then naturally, there will be various foreign letters, and from then on, they can appear in the name column of our country's resident ID card.

The respondent judged based on his life experience that the name Zhang C had no adverse effects, but ignored the impact such a name would have on my country's social order and culture.

Therefore, the appellant believed that even if the name Zhang C did not cause actual damage, it still violated public order and good customs and could not be registered as a name on the resident identity card. "

Shall I wipe it? It seems true?

Lu Guangchao was shocked. He discussed it with the other two judges and found that what Ren Zhen said seemed to be true.

Zhang Guangzhi's expression turned serious.

At this point in the trial, the balance has gradually been tilted towards the other side.

In the first instance, the court ruled in favor of them. In addition to believing that the Jianming Law Enforcement Bureau's behavior was a new administrative act regarding the same matter, it also determined that the name Zhang C did not violate public prosecutorial ethics.

Now that people directly admit that they made mistakes in their previous work, you have to let them correct them.

But now even the last trump card of public order and good morals has been taken away. Even if he is a lawyer and Zhang C's father, Zhang Guangzhi doesn't know how to refute.

"Appellee, do you have any other opinions?"

Faced with Lu Guangchao's question, Zhang Guangzhi remained silent.

The court debate did not last long, but Zhang Guangzhi's views in the first trial had been almost completely overturned. The final summary could only be briefly repeated, and the trial came to an end.

Seeing the judges walking out of the court after the adjournment, Zhang Guangzhi sighed inwardly.

Son, if the court finally decides that you have to change your name, you really can’t blame your father for not doing enough.

The lawyer opposite is really too cunning.

Yes, that’s right, it’s all because he’s too cunning!

Zhang Guangzhi glanced at the colleague opposite him who was much younger than him, and suddenly wanted to pry open his head to see what was inside.

How could this kid find such a tricky angle?

Outside the court, several judges formed a small circle.

"Let's talk about it, can Zhang C be used as a name?"

Lu Guangchao stretched his waist.

“Actually, from my personal point of view, I think it’s okay to use this name, and it’s not as serious as the appellant’s lawyer said.

Although what he said is indeed possible, it is somewhat alarmist. "

Du Hongzhi first expressed his position: "Strictly speaking, the regulations are a bit vague. Strictly speaking, the name Zhang C cannot be considered a violation of the law.

Moreover, the main right to name is a personal right. If you want to restrict this right, you have to legislate it personally.

However, the method of explanation by the appellant’s lawyer is indeed reasonable. If a detailed explanation is finally issued, I guess it will be quite different from what he said. "

"And this matter was made wrong by the law enforcement agencies from the very beginning."

Tian Yining's face was full of hatred: "If they didn't approve and register the name Zhang C from the beginning, wouldn't they have changed his name from the beginning? How could there be so many things later.

According to the understanding of Zhang C’s family, if you have approved my registration information, then your law enforcement agency must have recognized my name.

The relevant laws and regulations have not changed now, but the regulations within your law enforcement system have changed. If you ask people to change their names, it does lack a legal basis.

This matter is essentially their Law Enforcement Bureau giving two versions of the same matter, and they are contradictory. I can't blame Zhang C. "

(End of this chapter)

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