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Chapter 684 Idealism and materialism, the difference between the original body and the second spirit

Chapter 684 Idealism and materialism, the difference between the original body and the second spiritual body, and the use of

After thinking for a long time, Luo Yan's original body regained his wise and confident demeanor and said, "What role do you think the two ancestors of Tianji Palace played in this?"

"Player or pawn?"

The second spirit thought about it and said uncertainly: "Both a chess piece and a chess player?"

The original character raised his eyebrows slightly, looked weird, and did not respond.

But this reaction made the second spirit body feel stunned, and then he asked in shame and anger: "What is that look in your eyes?"

"Are you looking down on me for being stupid?"

The two are born and bred as one, and the other party can understand the slightest emotional expression most clearly.

It is precisely because of this understanding that the second spiritual body instantly became furious.

Luo Yan's real body showed a mouthful of white teeth, and then replied: "What do you think?"

Although they are both Luo Yan, the second spiritual body is an independent part, similar to a second personality.

Even though the information known is the same, the second body's way of thinking is obviously not as comprehensive as the original body's in terms of many feedback issues.

"You damn guy!" The second spirit was angry. Who was he looking down on?

Is he that stupid?

"Okay, stop making trouble, and hurry back to the Five Elements Sect. Our memories need to be integrated again. I am also very interested in those immortal secrets."

"The second is Elder Baimei from the Tianji Palace. He asked us to go to the Earthly Immortal Alliance. I'm afraid he has other intentions. I have to think about it carefully."

"In addition, if things go as expected, the people who want to attack Yang Chao already have a rough target."

Yang Chao's luck was amazing, and Luo Yan knew it best. If this was the manifestation of the power of luck, then it went without saying who could seize the power of luck.

That is definitely not an ordinary creature!

"Stop changing the subject and explain yourself clearly. Why am I so stupid?" The second spiritual body didn't buy into the original body's tricks and continued to refuse to give in.

If we don't make this guy explain himself clearly today, he will definitely fight with the main body when he comes back!
Luo Yan's original body is helpless. Although the two are one, due to the differences in their main and secondary personalities, they have similar but completely different personalities.

"You, think more about how I thought when I encountered problems before, and you should understand where the problem lies this time."

"The point you discussed with that elder was the mysterious power of fate and the line of cause and effect. This is the core!"

"And you just briefly mentioned a point: I make my own destiny and seek my own happiness."

The second spirit body said frankly, "Isn't this what you originally thought? I just said it truthfully. Could it be wrong?"

Luo Yan's main body shook his head and sighed: "I didn't mean to say you were wrong."

"Then..." The second spirit body frowned.

"Similarly, I didn't mean to say that you are right." Luo Yan's main body spoke again.

"You!" The second spirit body glared at him, as if to ask if he was kidding me, and glared at him angrily.

"The elder of the Tianyan Sect asked you what fate is, and you answered with these eight words, 'My fate is determined by me, and my happiness is sought by myself.' From our perspective, there is nothing wrong with that."

"But there is one thing you have overlooked." Luo Yan's eyes were clear, containing a sky full of stars and carrying a mysterious charm.

"Which point?" The second spirit body was silent.

"That elder once gave an example. If you plant a seed today, you will harvest a tree next year, right?" Luo Yan's main body asked.

The second spirit nodded and recalled the scene again. It was indeed the case.

The old man from Tianyan Sect did use this tree species as an example, he was sure of it!
"If I say that the elder's original intention is completely opposite to yours, but still deliberately makes you think that you have the same idea, would you believe it?" Luo Yan's main body said with a smile.

The second spirit body narrowed its eyes slightly, waiting for the main body's next words.

Although the two parties are one and the same, from a practical point of view, the main body's way of thinking should be more comprehensive, because if it is not comprehensive enough, the main body would not be alive today.

But from his birth to now, it has not been more than ten years at most.

Although I have all the memories of the main body, memories are just memories. When it comes to analyzing human nature, an eight-year-old self is indeed not as profound as the main body.

This is a fact, the second spirit body acknowledges it!
"The reason why I'm so sure that you were deliberately misled is because that elder changed the concept. He said that observing the growth of the seed and determining its destiny is cultivation."

"I dare not make a decision on this before I see that practice method."

"But one thing is certain: when you faced the seed, the argument you put forward, 'I decide my fate, and I seek my own happiness', was not appropriate for the topic you were discussing at the time."

Master Luo Yan had received education in his previous life and knew very well that there was no absolute right or wrong in a matter. It was only the differences in views and positions that led to conflicts of opinion between people.

These are the two most famous viewpoints in previous philosophy, namely the dialectics of materialism and idealism.

Simply put, materialism refers to the focus on matter, with consciousness, thinking, mind, and ideas as shadows.

Idealism is just the opposite.

These are two different arguments and two different ways of thinking.

Just as the seed actually exists, its growth also really exists.

This means that the example given by the elder is materialism, that is, using material observations to prove his point of view.

That is, matter dominates people's consciousness and thinking. This is one.

The eight words emphasized by the second spiritual body: "My destiny is in my own hands, and my own happiness is in my own hands." This is a typical example of the world's essence from the inside out, composed of thoughts, consciousness, and ideas. Matter is just its shadow.

The two are totally unrelated and are not talking about the same point at all. This is the second point!
But when the second spirit mentioned this, the elder kept silent.
When teaching the Dharma, it was obvious that the second spirit had misunderstood the meaning, but the elders of Tianyan Sect still thought that the second spirit was very good and what he said was very right.
A person whose views are obviously contrary to yours and who is not of the same origin as you, you still think he is teachable and have high expectations of you.
Even a three-year-old child would find this hard to believe!
If we dig deeper, this is a typical case where military generals believe that they can rule the world through force and will attack anyone who disobeys them.

But scholars believe that harmony is the most important thing and that one should live in peace with people all over the world!

These are two concepts of different nature!
Those who firmly believe in them are most likely people with two different philosophies!

Therefore, after learning about the general conversation between the second spiritual body and the head of the Tianyan Sect, Luo Yan's main body felt that the second spiritual body was deliberately fooled.

Because from the perspective of human nature, it is almost impossible for a person who does not conform to one's own practice concept to be recognized by the other party. From the perspective of facts, when teaching the Dharma, a person who cannot even understand one's own ideas still teaches the Dharma to the other party.
If there is no trick here, Luo Yan's master will not believe it.

This is the difference between Luo Yan's main body and his second spiritual body. The main body not only understands concepts and tends to be rational in thinking, but also understands human nature!
In order to make the second spirit body understand more thoroughly, he explained again:
"The seed that was buried took root, sprouted, grew, and produced green branches."

“The wind blows it, the sunlight shines on it, it seems to possess the sunlight and the wind, but in fact it is just a tree seed, it does not possess anything!”

"From a realistic perspective, the sun and the wind will disappear."

"So the so-called causal force that the elder was referring to should have meant that when the sun shines, we should bask in the sun, and when the wind blows, we should enjoy the wind."

"This process is the root of the need for profound enlightenment!"

"As for that tree seed, no matter what it eventually grows into, it is at most a tree. It has nothing to begin with, and it is not a part of the sunlight and wind, nor will it change the sunlight and wind."

"I think what the elder of Tianyan Sect wants to tell you is: All things are for my use, not my possession."

"This is what he calls the practice of causal power!"

After hearing these words, the second spiritual body was stunned for a moment.

He was not stupid and he immediately figured out the twists and turns here.

The master's meaning was very clear. His own cultivation philosophy was obviously inconsistent with that of the old fellow from Tianyan Sect, but the other party felt that he was a great talent and could be taught?
Isn't this a clear case of fraud?
But he was still self-righteous, immersed in the joy of teaching and imparting the Dharma, and thought he was a great talent.
Little did he know that if it wasn't for some unknown purpose, based on those words alone, the other party would reply: Although this child has talent, he is not suitable for the Taoist practice of our lineage.
"Damn, this old guy is here deceiving children?" The second spirit body gritted his teeth.

He still thought that the old guy was a good person, with a kind face, and was extremely careful when teaching.

To be able to say such a conscienceless thing, it seems that there must be some ulterior motive behind it!

Hearing this angry scolding, Luo Yan's main body chuckled with a smile on his face.

"Why are you laughing? You're not a good person either!"

"You guys have such complicated, dirty minds!"

"A simple teaching of the Fa actually involves so many twists and turns."

"I shouldn't say this, no wonder you guys can be so successful on the path of cultivation, with so many tricks up your sleeve, how could it not be smooth?"

"How can ordinary people compare to you?"

The second spiritual body was ashamed and angry, his face became very ugly, and he felt extremely angry and frustrated.

Luo Yan didn't care when his main body was scolded, because his second spiritual body was another him, so there was naturally nothing to be angry with him about.

"Okay, don't think about those things."

"Don't worry about what the elder's purpose is, but you have now obtained his Dharma, this is a fact."

"If there are changes in the future, we will deal with it in the future."

"You should hurry back first. With the origins of the laws and careful preparation, you and I may be able to try to break through to the Spiritual Transformation Realm."

The second spirit nodded, and then the illusion disappeared.

In the Five Elements Sect, Luo Yan's main body opened his eyes, and a hint of contemplation flashed in his eyes.

The news brought by the second spiritual body was basically good news, but it also revealed many things hidden behind the scenes.

This also made Luo Yan understand a truth. As his cultivation level improved, the many inside stories of this world were gradually revealed to him.

"Five Elements Sect, Heavenly Secret Hall, Elder White Eyebrows."

"What role do they play in this?"

Luo Yan thought about it and used his consciousness to draw a picture in the biochip.

The Five Elements Sect, the people from the Immortal Realm, the two masters of the Heavenly Secret Hall, and the names of some other elders he knew were all written down.
Then, Luo Yan continued to list the purpose of their respective existences and the interests they represented.

At the end, there was a lot of dense writing, among which words like 'Twelve Heavenly Tribulations', 'Power of Luck', 'Immortal's Reincarnation', 'High-level members of the Five Elements Sect', 'Five Finger Mountain', etc. were particularly obvious.

“Although it appears that the catastrophe of my Five Elements Sect was caused by those immortals from the upper realm, there are definitely more details involved.”

"Forget it, I'd better find a way to improve my cultivation as soon as possible, otherwise I won't even be qualified to be a chess piece."

Luo Yan thought about it for a long time and felt that although the outline of the catastrophe was becoming clearer, it still lacked a lot of key information. It was useless to think about it any further, so he might as well concentrate on practicing.

In order to break through to the Spirit Transformation Realm, there are four problems that need to be solved: psychic particles, physical strength, spiritual power, and the laws of origin.

The first two, the physical body and psychic particles, are easy to solve. They can reach a limit in a short period of time through continuous accumulation.

Only spiritual power is not enough, and it requires a long period of practice to be perfect.

Luo Yan made a rough estimate and according to the current situation, he would need about seventy years to perfect his spiritual power.

This still seems a bit slow to Luo Yan now.

As for the law of origin, the second spiritual body has already found the origin of the five elements, which is barely enough to break through to the next realm.

"The power of the soul." Luo Yan pondered.

Normally, the increase of spiritual power is usually achieved by practicing the Shenzang Method, namely the "Eight Trigrams Spirit Tempering Chapter", which is gradually increased.

But with his current realm of cultivation, he can only practice it twice a day at most before reaching the limit.

The increase in spiritual power is limited!

This is the highest cultivation speed that Luo Yan's body can maintain. The foundation determines everything, and he can't go faster even if he wants to.

Of course, this is also the limit of the human body, even the reincarnations of immortals cannot change it.

Otherwise, with their strength, they would have achieved immortality again long ago.

After talking with the second spiritual body, Luo Yan realized that the future would bring sudden changes. He was afraid that the Five Elements Sect would not only have a war with the Sea Clan, but the Five Elements Sect itself would also undergo major changes.

If he didn't have strong power before this, he would probably be trapped in this disaster.

Because he is a member of the Five Elements Sect, this is a fact that cannot be escaped no matter what!
(End of this chapter)

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