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Chapter 504 Cooperation and Competition

Wang Yun said proudly: "What we make is cheap short fiber. Although the strength is weaker, it also has advantages. In addition to the functions of thermal conductivity and electromagnetic shielding, the chemical corrosion resistance of the Hua 100 carbon fiber we made has also been improved. I dare say that even if Toray’s pitch-based carbon fiber of the same type is better than ours, it’s not much better.”

If you were a researcher in the 70s, you would be embarrassed if you didn't say that you were the number one in the world.However, in the 90s, it was clear that backward researchers would leave some room for rhetoric. Wang Yun's mentality was very subtle. He was very confident, but worried that companies in developed countries would have some leeway. With a technical reserve beyond imagination, there is not enough confidence to speak.

Su Cheng is not a real researcher, so he didn't have time to experience such emotions, but he grasped the key point and asked, "How do you achieve one-tenth of the cost? How about the cost of raw materials?"

Wang Yun was in the middle of his emotions, and he was stunned for a while by what he said, shaking his head on the other end of the phone, and said: "I use ethylene pyrolysis tar as raw material, from atmospheric and decompression steps to spinnable pitch, we all It doesn’t cost much to make it by the researchers themselves, even if it is produced in a factory, I don’t think it will cost much.”

Su Cheng suddenly said, "This is much cheaper than polyacrylonitrile carbon fiber."

"That's not true." Wang Yunle laughed out loud.

Polyacrylonitrile is also a difficult chemical raw material. It can be regarded as a kind of chemical fiber, but it is much more difficult than ordinary chemical fiber. At least in China, it will take more than 10 years of development to gradually mass-produce this important raw material.during the production of carbon fiber.Polyacrylonitrile is the main cost, often up to two-thirds stronger, if not pitch-based carbon fiber.If you want to greatly reduce the cost, the investment will increase several times.

It is estimated that it will take a long time to imitate the applicable polyacrylonitrile.

Therefore, Chinese researchers, who control costs as naturally as breathing, used pitch-based carbon fibers at the beginning of the project.After it is made, the application range of pitch-based carbon fiber is not as good as that of polyacrylonitrile.But in the end, it solves the problem of having and not having.

Sioux City didn't even care about the scope of use of asphalt-based carbon fibers.From the perspective of the development of later generations, it doesn't matter what quality carbon fiber is, as long as the price is right.There is nothing that cannot be sold.The simplest analogy is that some of the big dogs who buy carbon fiber rackets and carbon fiber bicycles know the tensile strength and modulus, and a few know the difference between the strength and modulus of carbon fiber.

Take a moment to bask in the joy of success.Only then did Su Cheng think of an important question.Said: "What about the output? How much can you produce per month?"

"The current goal is ten tons a month." Wang Yun smacked his lips cheerfully, and said, "I guess it's a bit difficult to sell 3 yen, but 2 yen is not difficult. 1 ton is a million yen. It is a bit early to recover the investment in the laboratory, and the maintenance funds are estimated to be no problem. In fact, if the investment is more, the recovery will be faster..."

This is his old routine of asking for funds, and he speaks while something is being made.The effect will obviously be much better.

However, Su Cheng was shocked by 10 tons.

Can the output of 10 tons be considered factory production?

The tofu workshops in the countryside probably make more tofu in a month than this.

Of course, carbon fiber is a little more difficult to make than tofu... But it is not a little bit far from the ideal production capacity of Sioux City.

"How long will it take to increase to 50 tons?" Su Cheng asked with difficulty.

50 tons can’t be said to be too much. At this time, for a carbon fiber company, it is normal for a factory to produce more than 600 tons per year, and a company with an annual output of several thousand tons is considered a promising company.A carbon fiber factory with an annual output of [-] tons is probably slightly higher than the qualified line.

If this standard is used in steel and other industries, it may not even be considered a small steel factory. Fortunately, the unit price of carbon fiber is high enough to maintain the scale of a high-tech company.

Wang Yun didn't expect that Su Cheng's vision would be set in ten or twenty years. Over the phone, he hummed for a long time and said, "The monthly production of 20 tons is actually our goal in the next stage, and it is relatively difficult to achieve now. .In fact, the price of carbon fiber per ton is more than 50 U.S. dollars, and 10 tons of carbon fiber per month still has some funds.”

"Well, it's very good." Sioux City suddenly came to his senses, and praised: "I was in a hurry, you guys did a very good job. In fact, a vice president of Halliburton proposed to buy all the products we produced. Carbon fiber, what do you think about this?"

Wang Yun smiled silently, and said, "Su Dong, even if we start the factory, we can produce 10 tons of carbon fiber per month and probably use it ourselves. However, as long as you give me the funds, I don't care where the carbon fiber goes."

As soon as he finished speaking, the other end of the phone yelled: "Wait! You don't care about me. Our shipping company paid for these carbon fibers."

"Is that Xiao Yan?" Su Cheng couldn't hear the voice clearly, but he knew it when he heard the shipping company, and it was most likely Yan Xuecan.

"It's me, Hello, Su Dong." Yan Xuecan smiled. He is a middle-level senior in Dahua Industrial, but because he is young, he has a lot of money to show cuteness, so he grabbed the microphone and said: "Su Dong, our lng The ship is progressing smoothly. In terms of production technology, 95% of the problems have been solved. However, we still hope to localize as much as possible. For example, compressed natural gas tanks, we hope to use our own carbon fiber, and this can also be effective Reduce the cost of lng ships. Therefore, we want to give priority to purchasing carbon fiber within the group..."

"Dahua Shipping Company and Dahua Laboratory are affiliated companies. It's okay to sell them first, but not to sell them cheaply. Therefore, even if you want to reduce costs, you can only buy them at market prices." Su Cheng said in a deep voice. .Although Dahua Shipbuilding belongs to Sioux City, many outsourcing projects of Dahua Shipbuilding are for factories under CSSC. Even if [-]% of these factories are transferred to Dahua Industrial, they cannot be regarded as Dahua Shipbuilding. The companies under the industry are only peripheral companies with a low degree of connection.Therefore, it is impossible for Dahua Industrial to have a state-owned enterprise-style allocation, which is the pricing mechanism.All follow the market.

Yan Xuecan readily agreed, and said: "You just need to sell all the carbon fiber to other companies, and the price is [-] US dollars per ton. This is also more cost-effective than what we purchase from outside."

Sioux Cheng gave a "hmm" and replaced Wang Yun to let him continue to promote research and development, and promised an additional fund of 1000 million yuan. Only then did the long international roaming end and return to Nazarbayev's presidential office .

Timothy was sitting on the right side of the door, and when he opened the door, he was smiling like a rabbit.Chat with Nazarbayev in Russian.This alone makes Sioux City admire. Timothy is not a professional staff member in the Russian region. He spent most of his early years.They are all used in Spanish-speaking countries, but judging by his Russian, it is comparable to the locals, a foreign language that can chat, fart and make jokes.It is already high-end in China.It feels like a waste to fall on the vice president of Timothy.

The elites of foreign oil companies are especially deeply felt abroad. Companies like Halliburton have branches in more than 80 countries and regions, and have businesses in almost 0 countries around the world. It can be said that they are genuine multinational.Compared with Dahua Industrial, the most basic point is that the company can find employees who have mastered dozens of languages.Not to mention Dahua Industrial, China may not be able to have it.therefore.Dahua Industrial has not been able to achieve internationalization so far, and it is even more difficult to earn money from foreigners through commercial means.

"Did Mr. Su make a decision?" After finishing his sentence, Timothy turned to Su Cheng.

Nazarbayev also took the opportunity to look over.

Su Cheng smiled and said, "Dahua Industrial is preparing to digest this batch of carbon fibers internally."

"It's a pity." Timothy didn't seem surprised, and continued: "The newly developed materials will not increase the production capacity too much in the early stage. However, Japanese companies have gone a long way in carbon fiber, and the cost has dropped The speed is also very fast, if the conversion of production capacity is too slow, the original cost advantage may be strongly challenged."

"It's good that Mr. President can understand." Su Cheng pretended not to understand his subtext.

Timothy is not as restrained as the Chinese people. He laughed and said cheekily: "I am worried about you. Low-cost high-tech products have always been a problem in promotion and sales. Now it seems that the cost of advantages, if not If you use it quickly, the advantages will soon disappear, so the previous technology investment will be in vain. The worst part is that such technology often attracts technology investment, but investment is often difficult. have the same effect."

I have to admit that Tim West's words are very insightful and belong to jingyan's talk.Didn't Sioux City promise an investment of 1000 million just now? From the perspective of profit, the first one or two months will be considered as nothing.If foreign companies really have technical reserves, two months is enough for them to sort out and release them. In Jilie's business competition, such technical reserves can often kill small companies with one blow, especially those who relied on loans to survive in the early stage For small high-tech companies, creditors can still wait with peace of mind before the product is produced, but once the product is rejected by the market, the mood will be very different. Very few people are willing to wait for another round of product release.

Although Dahua Industrial will not fall into the category of being easily killed, if the carbon fiber project is not profitable for a long time, it may still be shelved.There are so many high-tech technologies in the world, they cannot be hanged on a single tree.

Therefore, taking advantage of the advantages of the first few months, striving for profits is the general law of the high-tech industry.

Timothy grasped this point, looked at Sioux City's expression and said, "Halliburton consumes a lot of carbon fiber. If we can have cheap carbon fiber, no matter it is hundreds of tons or thousands of tons, we can do it." Everyone was surprised. Chairman Su please think carefully."

"Of course, if the production capacity is increased, we will definitely give priority to Halliburton."

"Actually, Halliburton has a lot of talents in terms of laboratory factoryization. Is Dahua Industrial willing to cooperate with us in production?" After all, Tim West still wants to engage in technical cooperation.This also means that Dahua Industrial is a large company, and it is a Chinese company, otherwise the proposal to directly acquire the company may appear.For a company like Halliburton, in the annual budget, at least 50 billion US dollars are used to acquire the company. This money is not enough to fully acquire Dahua Industrial. Buying an affiliated company or department is enough. Too much.With Halliburton's strength, Timothy has a lot of confidence.

In front of President Nazarbayev, Sioux City is not going to discuss it in detail. Halliburton's vice president doesn't care about wasting Nazarbayev's time, but Sioux City can't think about it. He laughed Said: "We also believe in Halliburton's technology, but I know too little about the situation to make a decision."

Timothy didn't care, and smiled and talked about other topics.He just wanted to inoculate Sioux City before returning to China for the meeting, and told him that Halliburton was interested in this technology, lest other companies suddenly come out and cut him off.

After a few words, the two said goodbye to Nazarbayev with interest, and the President sent them to the door.Ayman was already stupefied, and fearing that his father would continue to reprimand him, he followed the two of them out, walked beside Timsi, and quickly talked about his beloved fashion industry story.

Su Cheng remained calm until he was about to leave when someone suddenly stopped him.

It was Ayman who answered first, and she shouted in surprise and embarrassment: "Wadry?"

It wasn't Wadley standing next to a Bentley.

"Why are you here?" Ayman looked at Timmy with some trepidation, for fear that Wei Deli came to ask the teacher for his crime.In the previous banquet, Ayman's face was lost, and at the same time, Wei Deli's face was lost.Based on Ayman's understanding of Wei Deli, this guy cares about face just like himself.

People in the fashion industry are just trying to save face.

Wei Deli was equally embarrassed, posing in a traditional British pose, and said: "I am here with Mr. Ducat."

"Ok?"

"This is Mr. Ducat, the technical director of BP." Wei Deli introduced the old man in the back of the car, wearing a three-piece suit.

Timmy obviously knew Ducat, his eyes narrowed like a cat's.

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