super energy power

Chapter 510 Patent Barriers

Wang Yun's eyebrows were twisted into Sichuan characters, and he said to himself: "I haven't heard of any domestic unit's carbon fiber research that is close to a finished product."

"You really think their technology is researched by yourself." Yang Ming looked at Wang Yun's pure eyes, one head and two big, shook his head, pulled it up and left, thinking: Are all the researchers are idiots? ?Such a person can deceive 00 fools, and is planning to deceive another 5000?

Wang Yun didn't know why, so he turned his head to look back, and said in his mouth: "Didn't he say that there will be carbon fiber technology soon? Our office is tracking the progress of carbon fiber in various countries in the world at any time, and there was a meeting yesterday to report. The documents and journals of the Patent Office There is no movement at all... Is it really dark under the lights? Let me think about it, we domestically manufacture carbon fiber, the research institute under the Petroleum Corporation counts as a share, and the research institute under Sinopec counts as a share, and there is no movement from CNOOC. In other words, in the past, the research institutes under the Ministry of Coal also made carbon fiber, and there were also research institutes under the Ministry of Textiles. However, the Ministry of Textiles has long since disappeared.

He said as he walked, but Yang Ming laughed angrily.

Seeing that there were people wearing half-worn suits beside Su Cheng, Yang Ming pulled Wang Yun back and said, "The cars these people are riding in are run by foreign affairs, and the young man who spoke just now can be seen as being run by China Merchants, so Said, they probably came to Su Dong to ask for technology, so pay attention when you speak."

"You mean, these people belong to the government?"

"probably."

"The government is also interested in our technology?"

"Maybe."

Wang Yun frowned and asked, "Give me money?"

"Ah? Give me some." Yang Ming said absently.

Wang Yun shook his head: "That won't work. Today's government has a lot of money, and it gives less. How can I subsidize the interns and pay the assistants? It depends on who compares it to the cheapness of asphalt spinning. A month's electricity bill is even higher. How many tens of thousands?"

Yang Ming was stunned, and said dumbly: "I thought you would agree, and I have learned how to calculate feelings."

"In the research institute, I spend one yuan in half, can it be counted? Technology transfer is charged by share, and the number of transfers is too many. It is worthless.

Yang Ming couldn't help laughing, and wanted to tell him a few more times, the two of them had already arrived at Su Cheng's side.He had no choice but to stand aside and watch Su Cheng introduce each other to them.

The newly emerged government officials were indeed a joint effort from several companies.The provincial-level and municipal-level investment promotion offices in Jiangsu and Zhejiang have come, and the lobbyists all over the hall are mainly from them.The Foreign Affairs Office came to cover for the Investment Promotion Office.After providing a coat, the soy sauce begins.Accompanying Su Cheng is a synthetic fiber research institute, numbered "826".Although I didn't go into details, in China, this kind of unit that uses numbers purely does not belong to the army, but is also a secret unit of key departments.

Yang Ming suddenly became nervous, and said to himself: I am not a crow's mouth, I am not a crow's mouth...

Today's army is not just poor.And a good appetite.There are so many military enterprises, some make money and some don't.Those who make money make a lot of money in silence, and those who don’t make money desperately demand policies and funds. The army is fighting for money every day, and they don’t care about research institutes that can’t produce results immediately. They, not to mention making money, can't afford to subtract a family price from the cost price and then discount it, and they won't be ambiguous when it comes to grabbing business.

This kind of unit that neither cares about the market nor understands the market is the most terrifying.If he ruins the market, he will look at you with big innocent eyes.

Fortunately, everyone was reserved and did not stand in the hall to discuss business. Ducat and others quickly brought the topic to technical aspects and had a cordial conversation with Wang Yun.

Yang Ming turned around and went to the Information Bureau to find the information of 826 Office.

After calling Dong Feng, Yang Ming rubbed his hands and stood downstairs in the Information Bureau waiting for the result.Except for Sioux City, there are very few high-level executives in the Dahua headquarters who are eligible to enter the information bureau, but there are a few high-level guys in the branches outside the Dahua headquarters.

The people coming and going from the information bureau were in a hurry, but no one looked at Yang Ming, let alone came up to say hello.It's totally different from the bustle of the headquarters, or the calmness of the Dahua Research Office.

After waiting for about a quarter of an hour, when Yang Ming was almost impatient, a girl from the information bureau came out of the building, handed him a sealed envelope, and left after taking the receipt.

Yang Ming stretched out his hand to open it, only to find that there was only a blank sheet of paper inside, which read: Incomplete information, subordinate for final assembly.

"Bah..." Yang Ming gasped.

Although the Dahua Information Bureau is an information collection agency for enterprises, there are always some common materials.Throwing back a blank sheet of paper only shows that the level of Institute 826 is high enough that all information is kept secret except for the code name.The Dahua Information Bureau has always given up on such domestic units.

In China's system, there are two types of units with a high level of confidentiality, one with advanced and important products, and the other with high administrative levels in research institutions.The products made by the local military regions are the most advanced, and they may not have the high level of secrecy of the military commission toilet. When it comes to the description of "subordinate to the final assembly", at least it shows that the 826 institute has a deep background.

"Crossing the Raptors." Yang Ming put the white paper in his pocket, and didn't rush to go back. It's been such a long time, Su Cheng should have known if the 826 Institute is not very good.

In fact, Director Lu of the Synthetic Fiber Research Institute didn't even want to hide it from Su Cheng.

The director of the research institute, who looks like a university professor, was afraid that Su Cheng would make a mistake in his judgment. First, he reported his number like a bandit in the rivers and lakes, and specifically stated: "This research institute shoulders the important task of reforming the entire army's equipment. Entrust, we must learn from Dahua Industry..."

Su Cheng then nodded frequently: "Well said, the new era and the new situation are indeed different, um, let's go to the laboratory first."

After saying these two sentences, he said another sentence in English, and he took the lead and went to the laboratory.

People flocked in, and Director Lu couldn't figure out if Su Cheng understood. He wanted to ask carefully, but there were a lot of foreigners around him, so he had to endure it.

This patience is two hours.

Wang Yun was ready.I took everyone to visit several testing laboratories of the Carbon Fiber Institute. Many important parameters have to be tested several times.Time is also delayed.

Foreign technicians from several companies even brought their own standard materials and used them on the test machines to make sure that the values ​​of the machines were correct.

Su Cheng also allowed them to operate, thinking that the buyer is the buyer, and the carbon fiber has spent so much research expenses, it is better to recycle part of it.

Until people are tired and horses are exhausted.Wang Yun took them to visit a few laboratories.

This time the speed is faster.Of the 6 selected laboratories, only the earliest preparation laboratory can enter, and the other 5 are all looking at the windows.Even so, a group of people looked at it very seriously.

Wang Yun pinched his watch, every 2 minutes a different group of people would lie on the window, and 3 groups of people would watch.Just walk away.

In this situation.Director Lu could only hold back his energy, like everyone else, read as many records as possible, and had no extra time to ask questions.As for looking at flowers on horseback, how many things can be seen, that is the level of the individual.

Even so, Ducat is also very satisfied, waiting for the six laboratories to read it.Without waiting for others to speak, he tapped the civilization stick.Question: "I noticed that Dahua uses raw materials with high aromaticity during the preparation of mesophase pitch. Is this conscious?"

Wang Yun replied, "It's conscious."

"Oh? What's the principle?" Dukat is a high-level technical leader. Before coming here, he carefully confirmed the carbon fiber technology mastered by bp company, and he was sure that he had no understanding of this aspect.

Wang Yun seemed to explain very openly: "In the raw material, when the interaction force between the large π bond conjugated structure is relatively large, it may cause the softening point to increase, the viscosity to increase, and it is difficult to spin. Therefore, we require the preparation The raw material of mesophase pitch must contain a certain amount of hydrogen, that is, the structure needs to contain a certain amount of cycloalkyl and aliphatic side chains."

As soon as he finished speaking, someone asked, "How much is a certain amount of hydrogen?"

"This is the secret of the experiment." Wang Yun nodded.

The official from the Foreign Affairs Office frowned and said, "Since it's a secret experiment, why explain it in front of foreigners..."

"Regarding this research, we have applied for a patent." Wang Yun interrupted Director Lu's words, but he didn't respond with a smile.

"Ah..." There was a sigh of disappointment all around.

Material data is frequently tested, and material testing is often expensive. If you are unlucky, it is not surprising that it will take several months and cost millions of dollars. Besides, the influence of patents, the cost of time and money It's even bigger.

However, for such a small key point, if you buy it directly, the other party may not ask for a few million dollars.

Most of the people present were businessmen, and they immediately lost interest in it.

Dukat communicated with his deputy for a while, and then said: "If you want to maintain the interaction force between the conjugated structures at a certain level, only quantitative hydrogen, cycloalkyl and aliphatic side chains may not be enough."

"What you said is." Wang Yun had obtained the authorization a long time ago, raised his thumb and said, "Quinoline insolubles, heterocyclic compounds containing nitrogen, oxygen, and sulfur, metal-organic compounds and complexes, active components , have certain requirements.”

"You have a complete theory about this?" Dukat showed a surprised expression.There are so many compounds, if only one of them is measured, the relationship between them is troublesome. This is where the complexity of chemical research lies. The relationship between compounds that affect the final performance of the product must be analyzed according to the mathematical arrangement. Yes, every additional compound adds hundreds of possibilities.For modern industry, experiments without theoretical guidance can be described as huge sums of money, and even bp cannot afford it.

Wang Yun did not answer directly, but only smiled and said: "The current conclusion proves to be valid."

The validity of the conclusion does not prove the integrity of the theory.

Dukat also knew that there was nothing to ask, and was a little disappointed.

At this time, Timothy, who came from afar, stepped forward.He didn't know much about technology, so he didn't move forward. Until now, he stepped up to the front desk and said with a smile: "Su Dong, can we visit Dahua Industrial's production plant now?"

As soon as this statement came out, everyone's eyes lit up.

Director Lu even licked his lips and moved forward.

Although the 826 Institute is a synthetic fiber research institute, there are so many types of synthetic fibers, and they can't afford enough funds to continue research on carbon fibers.Therefore, getting a cheap carbon fiber production line is his greatest expectation.

The production plant of Dahua Industrial.He is his first goal, more important than the laboratory.

The industrial production and laboratory production of any industrial material are different.The main difference is the output and cost.Steel is an extreme example.A brand new alloy material, its laboratory parameters are just a reference.What matters is how to mass-produce.Even the same kind of steel, because of the different methods of mass production, ultimately determines the different fates of the two companies.

Carbon fiber is still a high-tech material, and the word "high-tech" means that its output will not be too high.Nevertheless, the pattern of industrial production is still different.

Dahua Industrial's cheap carbon fiber focuses on cheapness.In the eyes of Ducat and others, its technical parameters can only be said to be lackluster.Just passable.But such a passable material for a tenth of the cost.The meaning is completely different.

What foreign manufacturers want to see most is how Dahua Industrial can control costs.

Even if you can't buy Dahua Industrial's technology, you might get some inspiration by visiting their industrialized production methods.

With such an idea.Visiting company executives.Most of them have technical assistants around them.Even senior executives with a technical background like Ducat are worried about the aging of their knowledge and bring newcomers with them.

Wang Yun was a little hesitant, and the foreign businessmen said repeatedly: "The factory must be seen."

"If you don't look at the factory, your judgment will be inaccurate."

"Go now."

Director Lu suddenly became nervous, feeling aggrieved that his treasures were being touched by others, and said in a choked voice: "Director Su, the technology that should be kept secret. Let's keep it a secret. Everyone knows the situation of carbon fiber now. If it's just If you buy carbon fiber, that's enough."

Su Cheng said "Oh" in a kind manner.

Ducat smiled and said, "It's not the carbon fiber finished product that Director Su is going to sell."

Su Cheng nodded and smiled, "No."

"Su Dong intends to sell technology?" Tim West asked

"Let's focus on patent licensing." Su Cheng smiled.

"Since it involves production technology, please let us visit Dahua Industrial's factory."

Su Cheng shook his head at this time, and said, "Dahua Industrial is only going to authorize 3 companies, so there is no need for a group visit."

A group of people came to a sudden.

Ducat is the most wealthy and powerful, without any stumbling blocks, asked: "How to determine the price?"

"Based on production volume, it's $30 per kilogram." Su Cheng smiled.

Ducat frowned: "Isn't that higher than the production cost of carbon fiber?"

"But it's still profitable." Su Cheng smiled and said, "Although it is cheap staple fiber, it should be able to be sold at a quarter of the price of ordinary fiber in the early stage."

Wang Yun next to him pretended to take off his glasses to wipe them, and he was so excited.In order to use the cheapest raw materials and the cheapest production process to knead a passable carbon fiber, he did several years of paper research, and then led nearly 00 project teams and 100 interns and assistants to complete the test. task.During this process, the number of patents obtained by Dahua Industrial Carbon Fiber Research Institute exceeded [-]. No matter which country it is in, this is an extremely large number of patents, and there is no doubt that it constitutes a patent barrier.

Now, after all, there is something to be gained.

The Carbon Fiber Research Institute is no longer a research institute that eats nothing.

Wang Yun looked at the foreigners in front of him like he was looking at a herd of fat sheep.

Ducat and others immediately started bargaining.

The proposal of patent buyout and patent transfer was quickly rejected by Sioux City, and the derivative authority of the patent was also restricted.

Sioux City Lions opened their mouths to protect their own patent barriers. Under the condition that the interests of the company were not damaged, the price of patent authorization quickly reached 1 US dollars per ton, which is 00 yuan per kilogram.

This figure is neither high nor low. Based on the annual output of 500 tons, the annual patent expenditure is about 600 million U.S. dollars, which is just a drop in the bucket for large companies.However, if the quantity is too large, it will be scary. The output of 5000 tons represents a patent fee of 6000 million US dollars, and the patent fee of 5 tons is 6 million US dollars.

For industrial production, as long as the production capacity increases, 5 tons is nothing.Now Boeing has started to use carbon fiber to make aircraft empennages. If the price of carbon fiber is cheap enough, the world aviation industry alone can swallow tens of thousands of carbon fibers.The prospect of the automobile industry is even more terrifying. Although it is difficult to say how many years it will take to manufacture car bodies with carbon fiber, the consumption of carbon fiber can be met.

It is extremely important for foreign companies to determine a contract with continuity.

Someone even immediately proposed a 15-year, near-lifetime contract.

The negotiation lasted for more than three hours.In addition to the carbon fiber contract, there are also some tripartite contracts such as the purchase of equipment.

After discussing the details, it was late in the evening, and Su Cheng got up to invite everyone to dinner. Then Director Lu came over and said with a smile: "Su Dong, look at the technology of carbon fiber, can you transfer some of it to us?"

"Oh, you also want to buy patent licenses? Let's trade in RMB. Well, how about the current price?" Sioux City gave a generous discount. Foreign exchange in 93 is still very valuable, and trading in RMB is itself a discount.

Director Lu smiled, and said, "We don't need patent authorization, we just make something for the army, you teach us how to do it, we guarantee that the product will not enter the market, what do you think?"

Carbon fiber is also a hot commodity in China, and the military is also the target user of Sioux City. If the 826 Institute sells carbon fiber to the army, the latter will also have to pay the 826 Institute.

Different from ordinary factories, a small factory like carbon fiber is obviously very suitable for the 826 in transition.

Su Cheng didn't care about Director Lu's abacus, and said with a smile: "Well, let's visit the factory first. Tomorrow morning, after you visit Dahua's factory, we will make a decision."

Director Lu didn't find it strange that he didn't get the promise. He smiled proudly and said, "Then we will make a decision after visiting the factory tomorrow. By the way, does Mr. Su have time in the evening? A few friends would like to meet you."

"Then Hwaseong Intercontinental Hotel, we just have dinner together." Su Cheng turned around and greeted the others.

Director Lu looked at his back and let out a soft "hum".

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