Smart Industrial Empire
1330 Don't try to fool with second-hand equipment
What Yunfei meant was very clear. I never thought that I had to obtain these devices from you. ,
In this world, not only German equipment is feasible.
Even if the United States and Germany can strictly prohibit the export of various high-end top equipment and technologies to China in strict accordance with the Vasenaar Agreement, these will not stop the crazy Japanese.
The Toshiba incident that year can fully prove that the Japanese attach more importance to this agreement than money and national interests.As for the Toshiba incident that year, the Netherlands happened to be the last transit point for the five-axis linkage machining center of Toshiba Corporation of Japan to enter the former Soviet Union.It was only after the Netherlands was found that this matter was found out.
It is not without reason that Yunfei chose the Netherlands.
What's more, at this time, the Dutchman's pigtails were grabbed by him.
"Mr. Yun, it is impossible for the Japanese to sell ion implantation equipment and various advanced integrated circuit production equipment to your country!" Wim Kok's expression changed dramatically.The Japanese urine, they know very clearly.
Although he didn't participate in the Toshiba incident that caused a lot of trouble back then, he definitely understood it very clearly.
It was precisely because of the Toshiba incident that year that the Netherlands lost something that outsiders did not know.Their radar technology was acquired by the United States and the United Kingdom at that time.So now there are many competitors.
The relationship between the former Soviet Union and Japan was absolutely hostile.
There are only eternal interests in the world, but no eternal friendship and hatred. The five-axis linkage machining center exported to the former Soviet Union in Japan has fully proved it.What's more, the entire domestic economy of Japan is currently in turmoil.
"You don't need to think about this. Please!" Yun Fei said indifferently.
"Mr. Yun, it was just a joke made by Prime Minister Cork just now. Since we can talk to your government about some sensitive technology integration equipment, it is natural that we have discussed these civilian equipment..." Eiffel's brain turned, this For a while he couldn't care about anything else.
Yun Fei's words are definitely not threatening them, the Japanese are the biggest competitors in Europe and America.After the Japanese economy began to rise in the 70s and [-]s.Just robbed too much of the market.
The shamelessness of the Japanese runs deep in their bones. For money, they can do anything.
"A joke? Can this matter be joked like this? Tell me, how much can you provide? I don't have much time to waste here with you." Yun Fei's attitude became very cold at this moment.Japan has successfully developed nuclear weapons and demonstrated their power in Africa.It is impossible for the NATO countries headed by the United States to have no reaction to Japan.Among other things, once the Japanese economy collapses, it will bring many opportunities to the whole world.
This is just like in the stock market, when the entire stock market crashes.Most lost their fortunes, but some made a lot of money.
The world market is only so big. If the world's second-strongest economy collapses, these markets will be enough to bring great opportunities to some countries.Europe and the United States worry that most of this opportunity will be given to China, but China's exports are not so strong now. China's exports are often primary mining products and primary agricultural products.
The big head will still be obtained by the European and American powers of the world powers.
It is impossible for the Americans to let go of this opportunity.
Even Germany will not be reconciled to their second place being taken away by Japan.
The Japanese will fight.They can only rely on the Chinese market to support their industries.At that time, they will be sanctioned anyway, and they will never care about exporting various high-tech technologies to the Chinese market.As long as China can obtain these technologies, there is no need to worry about being blocked by world powers.
This is completely the idea of harming oneself and benefiting others.
Ordinary people can't do it.Crazy Japanese, no one can tell.
Otherwise, the United States would not have been hypocritically discussing with other countries after the mushroom cloud rose over Africa for such a long time.You must know that after the terrorist al-Qaeda bombed the World Trade Center, the United States did not pass for a month.It brazenly launched a war against Afghanistan.
"Mr. Yun, it's really hard to get what you asked for. There is no problem with an optical microscope with a power of 150, but an electron microscope with a power of [-] million is clearly beyond our capabilities..." Eiffel cunningly avoided quantity.
It is necessary to discuss what technical standard equipment to provide here.Let's talk about this number.
"80 times..." Eiffel replied decisively.
Wim Kok beside him wanted to say something, but he stopped him.
Now is definitely not the time to provoke Yun Fei anymore, otherwise there is really nothing to talk about.
Yun Fei is not as easy to fool as those Chinese officials.
"What about sending beggars? How many laboratories are still using 80 times? Carl Zeiss is developing an electron microscope with a magnification of 300 million times?" Yun Fei is also unclear as to how far the Germans have come in electron microscopes. .
Foreign professional magazines are also contraband for them.
These things are generally not published in external magazines.Just like the graphene-based microprocessors and molybdenum-based chips developed abroad, it took many years before they were announced.
These things are for the sake of technical secrecy.
And when these things are announced abroad, the Chinese only know some nouns, principles, etc., and it is impossible to reveal the slightest.
"One million times..." Eiffel gritted his teeth and said.
These are the ones that are going to be eliminated in their laboratory.It didn't take long for them to purchase these microscopes. To meet Yunfei's requirements, their laboratory must be upgraded as soon as possible, and then they exported these second-hand equipment to China.
Only in this way can greater losses be avoided.
After being found out about this transaction, they can also shirk it by disposing of second-hand equipment to China.All countries in the world do this. Haven't you seen the equipment and advanced production lines imported from China, are they all second-hand equipment purchased from abroad?
In this regard, Japan and the United States have taken the greatest advantage.
Especially in Japan, they upgraded and eliminated the 80s steel production line and production technology, which made a lot of money in backward China.These equipment even allowed them to recover the cost of new production lines and new process development.
The Chinese have no choice.
"This matter has not been discussed. Mr. Eiffel, don't think that I don't know what your calculations are. I am not interested in second-hand equipment. When I purchased the ion implanter, lithography machine, and cmp machine for Xingmeng's production line You use second-hand equipment to fool us, do such a thing once, do you think you can do it again? Or do you think Chinese people are fools?" Yun Fei unceremoniously exposed Eiffel's conspiracy.
The original equipment was all marked with the price of new equipment.
Since the reform and opening up, such things are very common in China.Slightly more advanced, many foreign companies use obsolete second-hand equipment to fool the Chinese, especially the huge number of second-hand CNC machine tools.
It is an undeniable fact that China is the world's largest industrial waste recycling country.
Machinery and equipment that have been scrapped abroad are absolutely advanced equipment for China, which has poor manufacturing capabilities and backward technology.What Yunfei can know is that before he left that world, most of the CNC machine tools made in China were not able to perform better than the CNC machine tools exported to China from Europe and the United States in the early days of reform and opening up.
It’s good to know that what can be exported to China is not a good thing, at least not for foreigners.
"How is that possible? Those equipments are all new equipments we purchased. Although some of the production lines are second-hand, these key equipments are all the latest equipment!" Ke Cilei was shocked, he really didn't expect Yunfei to know about this.
Aren't these things even the most basic maintenance to be handled by their technicians?
"Except for the new paint on the outside, how many things are new on the inside? These things have already passed, and it is no longer interesting to pursue them. And, I really have to thank you, otherwise we would not dare to dismantle it with confidence. Use these devices for research..." Yun Fei said with a smile on his face.
It was an accident to know this at first.
As for the top-level foreign equipment, there are not many Chinese technicians who dare to disassemble it for research.After all, these gadgets even have very few accessories.
"So, we have to make it clear from the beginning, lest we both argue about these things in the future..." Yun Fei's smile made Eiffel and Ke Cilei sneer.
They are sure that the reason why Yunfei asked for so many at one time is to take apart these things to see if they are brand new inside.
For laymen, these things are simply indistinguishable from the old.
For someone like Yun Fei who started out as a mechanical manufacturer and has a huge mechanical technology research team, these things can be seen at a glance.There is a big difference between second-hand equipment and new equipment.
"Mr. Yun, this 150 million times is really too difficult to get." The wishful thinking in Eiffel's heart was disrupted by Yun Fei, and he really didn't know how to deal with it.
For them, not to mention 150 million times, even 200 million times is not a problem, but the premise is that they have to use it themselves.
Exporting to China is obviously not acceptable.
Carl Zeiss sold such top-level equipment to them, and they would definitely come to check it out soon.It is to strictly implement the content of the Vasena agreement. (To be continued..)
ps: Thanks to jeffko0106 for the two monthly tickets.
In this world, not only German equipment is feasible.
Even if the United States and Germany can strictly prohibit the export of various high-end top equipment and technologies to China in strict accordance with the Vasenaar Agreement, these will not stop the crazy Japanese.
The Toshiba incident that year can fully prove that the Japanese attach more importance to this agreement than money and national interests.As for the Toshiba incident that year, the Netherlands happened to be the last transit point for the five-axis linkage machining center of Toshiba Corporation of Japan to enter the former Soviet Union.It was only after the Netherlands was found that this matter was found out.
It is not without reason that Yunfei chose the Netherlands.
What's more, at this time, the Dutchman's pigtails were grabbed by him.
"Mr. Yun, it is impossible for the Japanese to sell ion implantation equipment and various advanced integrated circuit production equipment to your country!" Wim Kok's expression changed dramatically.The Japanese urine, they know very clearly.
Although he didn't participate in the Toshiba incident that caused a lot of trouble back then, he definitely understood it very clearly.
It was precisely because of the Toshiba incident that year that the Netherlands lost something that outsiders did not know.Their radar technology was acquired by the United States and the United Kingdom at that time.So now there are many competitors.
The relationship between the former Soviet Union and Japan was absolutely hostile.
There are only eternal interests in the world, but no eternal friendship and hatred. The five-axis linkage machining center exported to the former Soviet Union in Japan has fully proved it.What's more, the entire domestic economy of Japan is currently in turmoil.
"You don't need to think about this. Please!" Yun Fei said indifferently.
"Mr. Yun, it was just a joke made by Prime Minister Cork just now. Since we can talk to your government about some sensitive technology integration equipment, it is natural that we have discussed these civilian equipment..." Eiffel's brain turned, this For a while he couldn't care about anything else.
Yun Fei's words are definitely not threatening them, the Japanese are the biggest competitors in Europe and America.After the Japanese economy began to rise in the 70s and [-]s.Just robbed too much of the market.
The shamelessness of the Japanese runs deep in their bones. For money, they can do anything.
"A joke? Can this matter be joked like this? Tell me, how much can you provide? I don't have much time to waste here with you." Yun Fei's attitude became very cold at this moment.Japan has successfully developed nuclear weapons and demonstrated their power in Africa.It is impossible for the NATO countries headed by the United States to have no reaction to Japan.Among other things, once the Japanese economy collapses, it will bring many opportunities to the whole world.
This is just like in the stock market, when the entire stock market crashes.Most lost their fortunes, but some made a lot of money.
The world market is only so big. If the world's second-strongest economy collapses, these markets will be enough to bring great opportunities to some countries.Europe and the United States worry that most of this opportunity will be given to China, but China's exports are not so strong now. China's exports are often primary mining products and primary agricultural products.
The big head will still be obtained by the European and American powers of the world powers.
It is impossible for the Americans to let go of this opportunity.
Even Germany will not be reconciled to their second place being taken away by Japan.
The Japanese will fight.They can only rely on the Chinese market to support their industries.At that time, they will be sanctioned anyway, and they will never care about exporting various high-tech technologies to the Chinese market.As long as China can obtain these technologies, there is no need to worry about being blocked by world powers.
This is completely the idea of harming oneself and benefiting others.
Ordinary people can't do it.Crazy Japanese, no one can tell.
Otherwise, the United States would not have been hypocritically discussing with other countries after the mushroom cloud rose over Africa for such a long time.You must know that after the terrorist al-Qaeda bombed the World Trade Center, the United States did not pass for a month.It brazenly launched a war against Afghanistan.
"Mr. Yun, it's really hard to get what you asked for. There is no problem with an optical microscope with a power of 150, but an electron microscope with a power of [-] million is clearly beyond our capabilities..." Eiffel cunningly avoided quantity.
It is necessary to discuss what technical standard equipment to provide here.Let's talk about this number.
"80 times..." Eiffel replied decisively.
Wim Kok beside him wanted to say something, but he stopped him.
Now is definitely not the time to provoke Yun Fei anymore, otherwise there is really nothing to talk about.
Yun Fei is not as easy to fool as those Chinese officials.
"What about sending beggars? How many laboratories are still using 80 times? Carl Zeiss is developing an electron microscope with a magnification of 300 million times?" Yun Fei is also unclear as to how far the Germans have come in electron microscopes. .
Foreign professional magazines are also contraband for them.
These things are generally not published in external magazines.Just like the graphene-based microprocessors and molybdenum-based chips developed abroad, it took many years before they were announced.
These things are for the sake of technical secrecy.
And when these things are announced abroad, the Chinese only know some nouns, principles, etc., and it is impossible to reveal the slightest.
"One million times..." Eiffel gritted his teeth and said.
These are the ones that are going to be eliminated in their laboratory.It didn't take long for them to purchase these microscopes. To meet Yunfei's requirements, their laboratory must be upgraded as soon as possible, and then they exported these second-hand equipment to China.
Only in this way can greater losses be avoided.
After being found out about this transaction, they can also shirk it by disposing of second-hand equipment to China.All countries in the world do this. Haven't you seen the equipment and advanced production lines imported from China, are they all second-hand equipment purchased from abroad?
In this regard, Japan and the United States have taken the greatest advantage.
Especially in Japan, they upgraded and eliminated the 80s steel production line and production technology, which made a lot of money in backward China.These equipment even allowed them to recover the cost of new production lines and new process development.
The Chinese have no choice.
"This matter has not been discussed. Mr. Eiffel, don't think that I don't know what your calculations are. I am not interested in second-hand equipment. When I purchased the ion implanter, lithography machine, and cmp machine for Xingmeng's production line You use second-hand equipment to fool us, do such a thing once, do you think you can do it again? Or do you think Chinese people are fools?" Yun Fei unceremoniously exposed Eiffel's conspiracy.
The original equipment was all marked with the price of new equipment.
Since the reform and opening up, such things are very common in China.Slightly more advanced, many foreign companies use obsolete second-hand equipment to fool the Chinese, especially the huge number of second-hand CNC machine tools.
It is an undeniable fact that China is the world's largest industrial waste recycling country.
Machinery and equipment that have been scrapped abroad are absolutely advanced equipment for China, which has poor manufacturing capabilities and backward technology.What Yunfei can know is that before he left that world, most of the CNC machine tools made in China were not able to perform better than the CNC machine tools exported to China from Europe and the United States in the early days of reform and opening up.
It’s good to know that what can be exported to China is not a good thing, at least not for foreigners.
"How is that possible? Those equipments are all new equipments we purchased. Although some of the production lines are second-hand, these key equipments are all the latest equipment!" Ke Cilei was shocked, he really didn't expect Yunfei to know about this.
Aren't these things even the most basic maintenance to be handled by their technicians?
"Except for the new paint on the outside, how many things are new on the inside? These things have already passed, and it is no longer interesting to pursue them. And, I really have to thank you, otherwise we would not dare to dismantle it with confidence. Use these devices for research..." Yun Fei said with a smile on his face.
It was an accident to know this at first.
As for the top-level foreign equipment, there are not many Chinese technicians who dare to disassemble it for research.After all, these gadgets even have very few accessories.
"So, we have to make it clear from the beginning, lest we both argue about these things in the future..." Yun Fei's smile made Eiffel and Ke Cilei sneer.
They are sure that the reason why Yunfei asked for so many at one time is to take apart these things to see if they are brand new inside.
For laymen, these things are simply indistinguishable from the old.
For someone like Yun Fei who started out as a mechanical manufacturer and has a huge mechanical technology research team, these things can be seen at a glance.There is a big difference between second-hand equipment and new equipment.
"Mr. Yun, this 150 million times is really too difficult to get." The wishful thinking in Eiffel's heart was disrupted by Yun Fei, and he really didn't know how to deal with it.
For them, not to mention 150 million times, even 200 million times is not a problem, but the premise is that they have to use it themselves.
Exporting to China is obviously not acceptable.
Carl Zeiss sold such top-level equipment to them, and they would definitely come to check it out soon.It is to strictly implement the content of the Vasena agreement. (To be continued..)
ps: Thanks to jeffko0106 for the two monthly tickets.
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