Lin Gao Qiming
Chapter 1347 Trade Agreement
Chapter 1347 Trade Agreement
The "Xingwei" in the Qing Dynasty originally meant "military exercises".This is especially true before entry.This time, they deliberately showed off the strength of the Eight Banners in front of Huang Hua, so all the soldiers were dressed in full body clothes, deliberately showing the combat power of the army.
Huang Taiji secretly watched Huang Hua's reaction from nearby - he already knew from the Tang newspapers and memorials that the fighting power of the Tai'ao people was far superior to that of the Ming army, and that in the conflict on Duozhi Island, the elite of the Eight Banners in Zhenjiang Fort were left alone On the island, the Tai'ao people, who were completely at a disadvantage in terms of numbers, fought to the death. The opponent was not only very powerful in firearms, but also had well-founded advances and retreats and strict discipline during the battle. They were rare elites.
Looking at Huang Hua now, although his face was quite shocked, there was no worry or fear at all. When Bayara soldiers rode and shot, there was even a contemptuous smile on the corner of his mouth.
Huang Taiji has always boasted of the strength of the Eight Banners, especially those who participated in the hunting were all the elites of each banner, many of them were Bayara soldiers.In a field battle, the charge of one or two hundred Bayara elite soldiers can kill more than ten times the Ming army, and it is not uncommon for one to fight ten times.
Seeing that the yellow envoy was a little overwhelmed by the aura displayed by the elite soldiers of the Eight Banners, but overall, he seemed completely unconcerned.
This is strange, could it be that they also have an army with great martial arts skills?Huang Taiji thought about it secretly, but he had too little information about the people of Da'ao.He has a lot of spies in Beijing, but the intelligence he gathers is concentrated on the military and political aspects, and mainly on the news from the court. Although Australian products are very famous in Beijing, Australians have never appeared in the court.Even the disastrous defeat in Hainan Island at the beginning was only said to be "Kun Thief", and according to the report, although the Kun Thief defeated the Ming army, they had already been defeated under the city of Guangzhou and fled back to the sea.Huang Taiji will not be able to connect the two for a while.
Looking at the twenty soldiers he brought, they looked quite capable, but apart from their sabers and two short guns, they didn't seem to be wearing close-fitting armor, and it seemed that their riding skills were not very good.
He called a valet and gave some instructions softly.
After a while, several horns sounded, and a wild boar rushed out from the bushes, followed by dozens of bayalas brandishing knives and riding horses, shouting and chasing it all the way.
Driven by the hunters, the wild boar panicked and headed straight for where Huang Hua and the others were. This wild boar was a long-standing old mandrill pig, heavy in weight, with two yellowed fangs and a mane on its neck. Falling trees are creepy to watch.
Although Huang Hua claimed to have "seen everything before", when he saw this frighteningly large wild boar - he had seen pigs with a life cycle of only 12 months - pounced on aggressively, he immediately panicked With hands and feet, he couldn't help but took a step back.
The guards near him were all trained in guarding. The 16 people immediately divided into two rows and lined up in front of him. The first row drew out their sabers, and the second row drew out their pistols and opened their triggers. They were ready to intercept wild boars in an instant. .The other 4 people were ready to cover the chief's escape once the wild boar broke through the barrier.
Huang Taiji didn't want to really frighten or hurt the envoy of Tai O. Seeing the wild boar approaching, the nearby cavalry swarmed up, poked with arrows and guns, and killed the wild boar in an instant.
After the hunt was over, Huang Hua was sent back to Shenyang by the officials of the Ministry of Rites and rested in the post house.The next day, an official from the household department came to formally negotiate with him on the details of the mutual market.
In the trade with the Manchu and Qing Dynasties, the most controversial issue within the Senate was the credit of the Manchu and Qing Dynasties.
The trade credit of the Manchu Qing Dynasty was very bad in history. The strong bullied the weak, and the meaning of strong buying and strong selling was very strong.Sometimes simply "credit".North Korea's Li Dynasty suffered a lot from it, so how to ensure the safety of trade and the payment of the other party has become an important part of trade.
The establishment of a fortified trade fortress is the most suitable method.This trade fortress could also be used as a workstation for intelligence activities against the Manchu Qing and as a forward base for future armed offensives.
Lushun was a place they had considered, but Lushun was far away from the core area ruled by the Qing Dynasty, almost isolated from the world. It was good as a military base, but too remote as a trading port.
Therefore, it was finally decided to occupy Zhangzi Island near the mouth of the Yalu River as a fortified trade port.Cargo ships such as T800 transport the goods here and then transfer them into the Yalu River by smaller ships.The population, horses and supplies obtained from the Qing Dynasty can also be temporarily stored on the island.
Zhangzi Island is currently under the control of the Dongjiang Army, but the Dongjiang Army scattered on the islands has not built any defensive facilities such as city walls on the islands, mainly relying on the sea as a natural barrier, which is an obstacle to the Eight Banners who lack water troops and ships. , but not for the Fubo Army.The headquarters of the dispatched army estimated that Zhangzi Island could be occupied only by sending a company of sailors to land.
Since Dongjiang was originally going to be annexed, it is also planned to accept all Liaohai islands under the control of Dongjiang.
After deliberation, the two parties finally reached an agreement: the mutual market location of the two parties will be located on Duozhi Island in the Yalu River in front of Zhenjiangbao.The inter-market interval is tentatively set at once every six months, and the frequency can be increased if necessary.
Commodities in the mutual market are sold in Lingao: salt, paper, cotton cloth, Chinese patent medicine, iron farm tools, armor, bows and arrows produced in Jeju Island.As for the food and artillery strongly requested by the Qing side, the "re-discussion" was temporarily put on hold.Huang Hua reckoned that selling siege artillery was not a big problem, but the possibility of selling grain was extremely low.After all, the cost of food transportation is too high, and the number of people they need to feed is increasing. Even if a stone of grain can sell ten times the profit, it is really not worth it for the Planning Institute.
Generally speaking, the goods needed by the Manchu Qing side are similar to those estimated by the Foreign Intelligence Service and the Ministry of Commerce. The main focus is on the necessary daily necessities and weapons for the people, and many of the commodities listed in the catalog that the commercial departments think may be sold are all excluded. , including commodities that were once thought to be likely to be sold: sugar, chili sauce, and liquor were all directly passed.This inevitably made Huang Hua a little disappointed.
Regarding the payment from the Manchu Qing side, some disputes arose between the two sides. Keishinro Tobe wanted to persuade Huang Hua to mainly accept ginseng and fur as means of payment.From a trade point of view, ginseng and fur are profit-making products. The prices in the customs market are very high and the profits are considerable.A catty of ginseng was only 16 taels of silver even according to the "forced selling price" of the Qing Dynasty to Li Chao, and at least 50 taels per catty in the pass.But the export quantity of this thing is limited after all.Although the trade between the Qing Dynasty and North Korea can often export more than 1000 catties of ginseng at a time, the mutual trade between them is not frequent, and it may take one or two years to save so much dried ginseng.Moreover, the consumer group of this luxury product itself is very small, and once a large amount of importation is bound to cause the price to plummet, the so-called profit will not be that big.
As for the Ministry of Health, it expressed concern about the import of fur—the fur of common fur animals exported from the Northeast, such as minks, otters, and foxes, may become a vector for the spread of plague.Simple deerskin, wild boar skin and the like are acceptable.
Therefore, Huang Hua's response to this was: the Manchu Qing side should either pay gold and silver directly, or use other special products to pay if it is insufficient.Ginseng and fur can't account for too high a proportion, they can only be used as supplements.He proposed that the Qing Dynasty should mainly pay the population and horses as compensation.It can also be supplemented with such things as honey, mountain products and wood.
After the two parties roughly agreed on the trade items, they discussed the prices of the commodities.Because the nobles of the Eight Banners have always regarded the captives as "rare goods to live in", they all set a high price for the captives who wanted to redeem themselves.Li Chao was forced to send hostages to Shengjing after Bingzi's rebellion, and set up a Korean pavilion.The Korean Pavilion often wanted to redeem captive relatives and friends for the officials of the Li Dynasty. The nobles of the Eight Banners often offered high prices, and it was common for a prisoner to pay 100 taels or even 500 taels for ransom.Sometimes even the North Korean Pavilion has no intention of redeeming people, and the relatives and dignitaries of the Eight Banners will force the North Korean Pavilion to redeem people.The price is naturally ridiculously high.
Now that Huang Hua wanted to trade, the price offered by the other party would definitely affect his own price. If the other party sold a prisoner for 50 taels and a horse for 500 taels, then he would have to sell salt for 10 taels a catty.
After a lot of discussions about asking prices and paying back the money on the spot, the two parties finalized the price of each commodity one by one.Huang Hua made some concessions on some products, but he did not give in an inch to Lingao's flagship product, armor: he insisted on selling the full-body armor at 200 taels and the simplified half-body armor at 150 taels.
The Ministry of Commerce believes that this price is not expensive. In terms of the defense effect and light load that these armors can achieve, there is no second supplier in this time and space.Although the Qing Dynasty can also produce quite good armor, in terms of its cost, building a large number of low-tech blacksmith shops and relying on labor-intensive full-time production will cost a lot of man-hours, and the cost may be cheaper than buying from Lingao. Not much.Not to mention the disparity in quality.Industrial batch products often enjoy a double advantage over industrial products in terms of cost and quality.
In addition to the basic goods exported by Lingao, the Manchu Qing also asked Lingao to provide a large number of iron pots and tea.Indicates how much you are willing to buy.Huang Hua knew that this was the Manchu Qing's demand for Mongolian trade.The Ming Dynasty had long-term trade control over Mongolia and strictly controlled the inflow of ironware. The Mongolian tribes were so miserable that arrowheads could only be made of bones. The iron pots that herdsmen needed daily and were easy to carry became a rare commodity for trade.
As long as there are iron pots and tea leaves, enough horses can be exchanged from Mongolia. It is much easier for the Manchu Qing to obtain horses from Mongolia than to fight with a knife and a gun.
(End of this chapter)
The "Xingwei" in the Qing Dynasty originally meant "military exercises".This is especially true before entry.This time, they deliberately showed off the strength of the Eight Banners in front of Huang Hua, so all the soldiers were dressed in full body clothes, deliberately showing the combat power of the army.
Huang Taiji secretly watched Huang Hua's reaction from nearby - he already knew from the Tang newspapers and memorials that the fighting power of the Tai'ao people was far superior to that of the Ming army, and that in the conflict on Duozhi Island, the elite of the Eight Banners in Zhenjiang Fort were left alone On the island, the Tai'ao people, who were completely at a disadvantage in terms of numbers, fought to the death. The opponent was not only very powerful in firearms, but also had well-founded advances and retreats and strict discipline during the battle. They were rare elites.
Looking at Huang Hua now, although his face was quite shocked, there was no worry or fear at all. When Bayara soldiers rode and shot, there was even a contemptuous smile on the corner of his mouth.
Huang Taiji has always boasted of the strength of the Eight Banners, especially those who participated in the hunting were all the elites of each banner, many of them were Bayara soldiers.In a field battle, the charge of one or two hundred Bayara elite soldiers can kill more than ten times the Ming army, and it is not uncommon for one to fight ten times.
Seeing that the yellow envoy was a little overwhelmed by the aura displayed by the elite soldiers of the Eight Banners, but overall, he seemed completely unconcerned.
This is strange, could it be that they also have an army with great martial arts skills?Huang Taiji thought about it secretly, but he had too little information about the people of Da'ao.He has a lot of spies in Beijing, but the intelligence he gathers is concentrated on the military and political aspects, and mainly on the news from the court. Although Australian products are very famous in Beijing, Australians have never appeared in the court.Even the disastrous defeat in Hainan Island at the beginning was only said to be "Kun Thief", and according to the report, although the Kun Thief defeated the Ming army, they had already been defeated under the city of Guangzhou and fled back to the sea.Huang Taiji will not be able to connect the two for a while.
Looking at the twenty soldiers he brought, they looked quite capable, but apart from their sabers and two short guns, they didn't seem to be wearing close-fitting armor, and it seemed that their riding skills were not very good.
He called a valet and gave some instructions softly.
After a while, several horns sounded, and a wild boar rushed out from the bushes, followed by dozens of bayalas brandishing knives and riding horses, shouting and chasing it all the way.
Driven by the hunters, the wild boar panicked and headed straight for where Huang Hua and the others were. This wild boar was a long-standing old mandrill pig, heavy in weight, with two yellowed fangs and a mane on its neck. Falling trees are creepy to watch.
Although Huang Hua claimed to have "seen everything before", when he saw this frighteningly large wild boar - he had seen pigs with a life cycle of only 12 months - pounced on aggressively, he immediately panicked With hands and feet, he couldn't help but took a step back.
The guards near him were all trained in guarding. The 16 people immediately divided into two rows and lined up in front of him. The first row drew out their sabers, and the second row drew out their pistols and opened their triggers. They were ready to intercept wild boars in an instant. .The other 4 people were ready to cover the chief's escape once the wild boar broke through the barrier.
Huang Taiji didn't want to really frighten or hurt the envoy of Tai O. Seeing the wild boar approaching, the nearby cavalry swarmed up, poked with arrows and guns, and killed the wild boar in an instant.
After the hunt was over, Huang Hua was sent back to Shenyang by the officials of the Ministry of Rites and rested in the post house.The next day, an official from the household department came to formally negotiate with him on the details of the mutual market.
In the trade with the Manchu and Qing Dynasties, the most controversial issue within the Senate was the credit of the Manchu and Qing Dynasties.
The trade credit of the Manchu Qing Dynasty was very bad in history. The strong bullied the weak, and the meaning of strong buying and strong selling was very strong.Sometimes simply "credit".North Korea's Li Dynasty suffered a lot from it, so how to ensure the safety of trade and the payment of the other party has become an important part of trade.
The establishment of a fortified trade fortress is the most suitable method.This trade fortress could also be used as a workstation for intelligence activities against the Manchu Qing and as a forward base for future armed offensives.
Lushun was a place they had considered, but Lushun was far away from the core area ruled by the Qing Dynasty, almost isolated from the world. It was good as a military base, but too remote as a trading port.
Therefore, it was finally decided to occupy Zhangzi Island near the mouth of the Yalu River as a fortified trade port.Cargo ships such as T800 transport the goods here and then transfer them into the Yalu River by smaller ships.The population, horses and supplies obtained from the Qing Dynasty can also be temporarily stored on the island.
Zhangzi Island is currently under the control of the Dongjiang Army, but the Dongjiang Army scattered on the islands has not built any defensive facilities such as city walls on the islands, mainly relying on the sea as a natural barrier, which is an obstacle to the Eight Banners who lack water troops and ships. , but not for the Fubo Army.The headquarters of the dispatched army estimated that Zhangzi Island could be occupied only by sending a company of sailors to land.
Since Dongjiang was originally going to be annexed, it is also planned to accept all Liaohai islands under the control of Dongjiang.
After deliberation, the two parties finally reached an agreement: the mutual market location of the two parties will be located on Duozhi Island in the Yalu River in front of Zhenjiangbao.The inter-market interval is tentatively set at once every six months, and the frequency can be increased if necessary.
Commodities in the mutual market are sold in Lingao: salt, paper, cotton cloth, Chinese patent medicine, iron farm tools, armor, bows and arrows produced in Jeju Island.As for the food and artillery strongly requested by the Qing side, the "re-discussion" was temporarily put on hold.Huang Hua reckoned that selling siege artillery was not a big problem, but the possibility of selling grain was extremely low.After all, the cost of food transportation is too high, and the number of people they need to feed is increasing. Even if a stone of grain can sell ten times the profit, it is really not worth it for the Planning Institute.
Generally speaking, the goods needed by the Manchu Qing side are similar to those estimated by the Foreign Intelligence Service and the Ministry of Commerce. The main focus is on the necessary daily necessities and weapons for the people, and many of the commodities listed in the catalog that the commercial departments think may be sold are all excluded. , including commodities that were once thought to be likely to be sold: sugar, chili sauce, and liquor were all directly passed.This inevitably made Huang Hua a little disappointed.
Regarding the payment from the Manchu Qing side, some disputes arose between the two sides. Keishinro Tobe wanted to persuade Huang Hua to mainly accept ginseng and fur as means of payment.From a trade point of view, ginseng and fur are profit-making products. The prices in the customs market are very high and the profits are considerable.A catty of ginseng was only 16 taels of silver even according to the "forced selling price" of the Qing Dynasty to Li Chao, and at least 50 taels per catty in the pass.But the export quantity of this thing is limited after all.Although the trade between the Qing Dynasty and North Korea can often export more than 1000 catties of ginseng at a time, the mutual trade between them is not frequent, and it may take one or two years to save so much dried ginseng.Moreover, the consumer group of this luxury product itself is very small, and once a large amount of importation is bound to cause the price to plummet, the so-called profit will not be that big.
As for the Ministry of Health, it expressed concern about the import of fur—the fur of common fur animals exported from the Northeast, such as minks, otters, and foxes, may become a vector for the spread of plague.Simple deerskin, wild boar skin and the like are acceptable.
Therefore, Huang Hua's response to this was: the Manchu Qing side should either pay gold and silver directly, or use other special products to pay if it is insufficient.Ginseng and fur can't account for too high a proportion, they can only be used as supplements.He proposed that the Qing Dynasty should mainly pay the population and horses as compensation.It can also be supplemented with such things as honey, mountain products and wood.
After the two parties roughly agreed on the trade items, they discussed the prices of the commodities.Because the nobles of the Eight Banners have always regarded the captives as "rare goods to live in", they all set a high price for the captives who wanted to redeem themselves.Li Chao was forced to send hostages to Shengjing after Bingzi's rebellion, and set up a Korean pavilion.The Korean Pavilion often wanted to redeem captive relatives and friends for the officials of the Li Dynasty. The nobles of the Eight Banners often offered high prices, and it was common for a prisoner to pay 100 taels or even 500 taels for ransom.Sometimes even the North Korean Pavilion has no intention of redeeming people, and the relatives and dignitaries of the Eight Banners will force the North Korean Pavilion to redeem people.The price is naturally ridiculously high.
Now that Huang Hua wanted to trade, the price offered by the other party would definitely affect his own price. If the other party sold a prisoner for 50 taels and a horse for 500 taels, then he would have to sell salt for 10 taels a catty.
After a lot of discussions about asking prices and paying back the money on the spot, the two parties finalized the price of each commodity one by one.Huang Hua made some concessions on some products, but he did not give in an inch to Lingao's flagship product, armor: he insisted on selling the full-body armor at 200 taels and the simplified half-body armor at 150 taels.
The Ministry of Commerce believes that this price is not expensive. In terms of the defense effect and light load that these armors can achieve, there is no second supplier in this time and space.Although the Qing Dynasty can also produce quite good armor, in terms of its cost, building a large number of low-tech blacksmith shops and relying on labor-intensive full-time production will cost a lot of man-hours, and the cost may be cheaper than buying from Lingao. Not much.Not to mention the disparity in quality.Industrial batch products often enjoy a double advantage over industrial products in terms of cost and quality.
In addition to the basic goods exported by Lingao, the Manchu Qing also asked Lingao to provide a large number of iron pots and tea.Indicates how much you are willing to buy.Huang Hua knew that this was the Manchu Qing's demand for Mongolian trade.The Ming Dynasty had long-term trade control over Mongolia and strictly controlled the inflow of ironware. The Mongolian tribes were so miserable that arrowheads could only be made of bones. The iron pots that herdsmen needed daily and were easy to carry became a rare commodity for trade.
As long as there are iron pots and tea leaves, enough horses can be exchanged from Mongolia. It is much easier for the Manchu Qing to obtain horses from Mongolia than to fight with a knife and a gun.
(End of this chapter)
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